R.I.P Windows XP 2002 - 2014

[Kiffster]

I have both XP and Win7 installed on my pc. The only time I really use XP is when I'm in the mood for one of my ancient games that absolutely refuses to run on 7, but I haven't played one or even used XP in years.

 

Anyway, anyone seen the video about the story behind the famous Bliss wallpaper? Pretty interesting...

 

 

[sivispacem]

 

 

I still use Windows XP, but only because I'm poor as f*ck.

I never bought anything Microsoft (except for a web cam) , do you thing that people would bother spending their money on stuff like these when others get to download them for free ? ( torrents for example )

 

Well, I really don't like to torrent stuff like that because if I get caught by MS it could be a big issue. But if it was free, hey, I'd take advantage of it!

 

No warez discussion please. Enjoy your malware ladened piracy products though.

[WilBas_007]

I have both XP and Win7 installed on my pc. The only time I really use XP is when I'm in the mood for one of my ancient games that absolutely refuses to run on 7, but I haven't played one or even used XP in years.

 

Anyway, anyone seen the video about the story behind the famous Bliss wallpaper? Pretty interesting...

 

 

 

^ this old man is rock! he made a legendary wallpaper...

 

and yeah... this is sad

[dukee152]

My family has a small business and we have 4 computers that all run windows xp I am wondering if having an antivirus program like Norton is enough? Also can I just buy a copy of vista from ebay and a copy of 7 from microcenter or tigerdirect and just upgrade to vista and then to windows 7 without having to reinstall programs because we have a lot of software that would need to be reinstalled and will take a significant amount of time.

 

btw the computers all have core i3 processors 4gb of ram and 1tb hdd's so they can easily run a modern os like windows 7 or 8

Edited April 14, 2014 by dukee152

[sivispacem]

You can usually do an upgrade install but going from XP to Vista/7 ideally needs a reformat as many of the drivers are incompatible. AV will continue to protect you against common threats and known badness but won't detect anything new, novel, complex or covert.

[gtamann123]

Wow I haven't used XP for years. I honestly think the last time I had a machine running XP was 08 or 09?? I didn't know that anyone out there was still using XP I was pretty sure virtually everyone had either upgraded to Vista or 7.

[Sentrion]

XP Embedded and Windows Fundamentals have different architectures, so porting updates won't work. Most machines, even old Pentium 4's support Windows 7 easily and maybe even faster than XP, I don't see why a lot of people still use XP.

Exactly. The excuse is they're too lazy to backup stuff and go with the upgrade process. Some people are just in love with Windows XP. People say XP is faster than Win 7. But, it's absolutely wrong. With a good ram, even Windows 2000 can run faster. They're too familiar with the interface to opt for a change. Earlier, I had both XP and Win 7 on different partitions, to use XP for rough purposes like old gaming and stuff. But, I'm now just used to Windows 7.

[dice]

XP Embedded and Windows Fundamentals have different architectures, so porting updates won't work. Most machines, even old Pentium 4's support Windows 7 easily and maybe even faster than XP, I don't see why a lot of people still use XP.

The one I linked works on x86. And it wasn't a solution, just a possibility

[SilverRST]

I have been Windows 7 for nearly 2 weeks. I f*cking love it! I finally can organize and keep my folders clean and organized as how Windows 7 have organized

the Documents. A doubleclick and the entire folders gets hidden. I really like this stuff and I always use it intensive. And I'm glad Windows 7 has

the Sidebar Gadgets so I can place the clock at right-upper screen and I like it even more it has no more tha tranparant black place like Vista have.

I'll miss Windows XP, it gave me a very nice and great times back in 2002 to 2008. It is 2014 and we have to move on but we always have our good and fine

memories to keep them.

[dukee152]

You can usually do an upgrade install but going from XP to Vista/7 ideally needs a reformat as many of the drivers are incompatible. AV will continue to protect you against common threats and known badness but won't detect anything new, novel, complex or covert.

So as long as I uninstall my drivers and update them after installing vista and 7 I can do it?

[sivispacem]

Only with 32-bit 7 as well, I forgot to add that. You can't do an upgrade from 32-bit XP to 64-bit 7 or 8, or Vista I don't think. And there's really no point running 32 bit 7 IMO. Just save all your important sh*t and reformat, you'll thank me for it later.

[dukee152]

Only with 32-bit 7 as well, I forgot to add that. You can't do an upgrade from 32-bit XP to 64-bit 7 or 8, or Vista I don't think. And there's really no point running 32 bit 7 IMO. Just save all your important sh*t and reformat, you'll thank me for it later.

well its an office computer it doesnt need that much power

[Iminicus]

XP was released in October of 2001, the 25th to be exact.

 

I can remember a friend bringing over a pirated copy to try out on a machine we were building. Man, those were the days.

[Slamman]

I bought my first PC with Windows ME less then a year before XP came out, and around that time, Pentium 4, if not mistaken. Now again, please don't ban me for this, I'm not trying to irk you guys endlessly, believe me, We can all try and get along, you know?!?

I might be fuzzy on this all now though, since I think Windows 98 SE came out after ME, and ME was on the market for a time with XP?

 

 

I want to add for those considering XP upgrade to Windows 7, I just did a fresh IDE drive format of Win7 Home Premium on my Dell Precision M60. What I like about this Dell is it supports higher speed 333Mhz SDRAM DDR, and I just got a Centrino P4 2Ghz, and 1GB stick to complement an earlier one. This is the machine spec just to aid anyone who's wondering how vintage to go for acceptable upgrade performance.

I'd say, installed with 1.5GB of RAM, and 1.5Ghz Pentium 4 mobile Centrino. This machine dates to early and mid 2004, so after XP had been out on the market for awhile, and designed for XP, certainly before Vista as well.

 

It does run slow, to some extent, but it installed and works fine otherwise. I'll still be keeping my XP discs though.

Edited April 17, 2014 by Slamman

[Spider-Vice]

No, Windows 98 SE came well before ME, then came 2000, and then ME. 2000 was the response to the next version of Windows NT, ME was the last iteration of the 98 engine... Which failed.

 

I had pretty amazing moments with Windows XP, but I upgraded when I could. I even used Vista on a Pentium 4 (I know, suicide), but after it's all updated it wasn't that bad. I then upgraded to 7, but some older computers still had XP. I think it was time for it to finally go.

[Slamman]

I thought Second Edition had been revised to address some of original Win98 as well as ME problems. Mike told me Windows ME had the same problem as Windows 9x in general and it related to memory handling, XP also presented a hurdle for memory as the technology expanded.

 

We all know the limit is pretty much 3GB on average, even when you load 4GB total, only 3GB is really in use.

 

To address the earlier question about 32bit or 64bit Windows upgrades, it's really only an option one time, so you have to be sure which version you want to stick with, Applications are written to take advantage of it, or you have the two Program folders so that 32bit version apps have their own specific location.

 

If I'm off on the facts, sorry for that in advance.

I know MS Windows disc will prompt you that 32 or 64 bit option only shows up once during the process. For older XP delivered computers, 32bit for upgrades is your best bet. AMD64 proceeded Pentium D, Intel's first dual core. They were a bit behind, pun intended.

MAYBE CONSIDERED OT, (Don't ban me over my aside comments, they are for informational use only, Back to XP from now on)

Spider_Vice, I'm sure you've heard me mention my own Windows ME OEM and Vista I bought off Craigslist, both I still have and worked just fine all the time I've had those OS options. Using WinME restore I was able to format a drive for my first laptop because driver upgrades are nearly all that's required (on my Acer 4710 dual core I even ran Windows ME initially! It worked but with lack of drivers of course)

I don't know the major fail points for other people because they didn't seem to exist for my usage

Edited April 18, 2014 by Slamman

[sivispacem]

You make another off-topic post on this forum and I'll ban you again, so help me god.

[ArcadeWilliamz]

You make another off-topic post on this forum and I'll ban you again, so help me god.

So I will be banned from just making a off topic post.

[Slamman]

In the Off Topic section, yep. Rules make no sense here, On Topic, XP, I hope I can keep using with my intended uses, despite lack of MS' support. I wonder about the cost of the extended support mentioned, For "Enterprise" customers. If anything was offered as options for the consumer end

[Vercetti42]

I recommend upgrading to 8.1 or 8 if you wish. The game performance is not much, but a bit better.

 

Windows 8 > Windows 8.1.

 

Why? Because I hate the fact that you are forced to create a microsoft account and that follows you around everywhere you go. All I want is to type my username and use my PC freely, it really feels kinda forced.

Edited April 18, 2014 by AceKingston

[yoječ]

Windows 8.1 doesn't force you to create Microsoft account. In this regard it's identical to Windows 8, you can easily skip it and use local account.

Edited April 19, 2014 by yojo2

[Tali vas Normandy]

Ahhh windows XP

I remember when I first fell in deep love with it

 

After downgrading from vista

[Slamman]

Now, not trying to be OffTopic here, but can you guys elaborate on whether miniXP is illegal or was it other included unlicensed apps on the Hiren disc? I have to say, miniXP is an uber useful tool because you can test most all aspects of a machine to run the full OS later, and once you lose power, that's it, game over!

 

It only resides in active, powered memory

[sivispacem]

It's illegal.

 

You're lucky that I'm in a splendid mood having spent the last two days caning a borrowed Porsche round Welsh mountain roads. You really need to learn when to shut your mouth though.

[sivispacem]

I hid you post because, AGAIN, it was completely off topic

Last warning.

[Slamman]

I hope this will be On Topic, but as I've been updating, my free Avast says they will be supporting XP protection, for how long is another question, but you guys/gals can keep using Avast while online with XP until they revise this.

[sivispacem]

Lots of the AV vendors are continuing to support XP. Though it's a bit futile in my view as people producing malware and exploit kits pump them out at a far greater rate than AV vendors can create signatures for them so the moment you stop releasing updates for the OS kernel and operating system structure the whole thing becomes a lame duck.

[Slamman]

Two things I think are valid though, Malware exploits from hackers concentrate on the biggest user base, this is why Macs are thought to be safe, when they really aren't.

The other is most Free AV is useful, and of course, have more then one recourse, I always advise having a disc for online that can crash and won't lose your vital data saved on a HDD database offline. Also, if only MS had thought to 'Sandbox' their browsers, this would cut down on system malware mucking things up. I've been impressed with Security Essentials since it's revisements some years back, Windows Defender has always worked for me without any issues. I don't rely solely on MS but I have used several noted free AV tools on different computers to gauge their effectiveness.

Not to go too far off topic, but whatever one I had lately, when I opened an effected web page, it advised me and prompted me to close it, so I was theoretically safe, no crashes resulted to date.

I think the only worry about XP continued use is on the browser front. All XP designed software will run the same as it has.

[Mr. Rocko]

I still use Vista, so I'm next.

[Slamman]

I do, Vista will be good for a year at least, but I do worry somewhat about that, since there seems to be almost a push to abandon Windows Service Packs. Only one ever scheduled for Windows 7!