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seniorshanker
Everything below applies to BOTH Red Dead and GTA Online.

I love both of these games and think that in the next installment of Red Dead (hoping that this is still a possibility), and in the current installment of GTA, some improvements could be made to make these games much more fun for the player, delivering countless hours of enjoyment.


GTA Online:

  • Customizable houses and mansions – Furniture stores, with the ability to buy computers, couches, and additional upgrades to your house
  • Ability to break into houses – Players can break into other players’ houses, but players can also buy security (cameras, locks etc.) at a furniture store
  • Zombie Mode – Most of the NPCs are transferred into zombies, vehicles are scarce, and safe houses are buildable. In a free roam world, there would be random events (military airdrops, survivors that need help, etc.)
  • Animals/hunting in MP - Everyone wants it, for obvious reasons.
  • Free roam gamemodes - Since everybody favors free roam the most, there could be different types of the free roam gamemode. Maybe bring back the ability to edit your game like GTA IV.
  • Seasons - Different seasons could change a lot about the surroundings, making the game generally more interesting.
  • Natural disasters - Rock slides, avalanches, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tidal waves, the possibilities are endless. However, this is very likely to cause lag, and would have to be downsized or would have to wait till GTA comes out on next-gen consoles.
Red Dead Online:

  • Realism Mode – Players will have to skin animals and eat them to stay alive. Fast travel is not available.
  • Hunting in MP - Ability to skin animals and set traps
  • Safe Houses – Ability to have houses similar to those that I stated in the GTA Online section. Of course it would have to be changed to fit the wild west theme.
  • Camp Fires – A player can teleport to a camp fire, respawn at a camp fire, and cook food at a camp fire.
  • Lassos in MP – Players could take each other prisoner. Players may be able to break out of it after a while, and a player would get one lasso per life.
  • Trains in MP - Players could rob the train, ride it around, and use it as a weapon of mass destruction.

Again, these are just my thoughts. Thanks for reading and don't be afraid to give feedback

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These are all original. Weird that I've never seen these suggestions.

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-While I wouldn't mind some customization options for apartments, it's a low priority thing since most people don't spend too much time (if any) in their apartment.

-Nah, it'd just get abused, exploited, and cause even more bugs like the garages already do. Couple that with a bunch of custom furniture and you're pretty much asking for something to f*ck up.

-Enough with the zombies already. When I want to shoot slow, stupid drones that should be decapitated, I'll go back to PvPing.

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RDR

-It's a good start. Gonna need some water in that desert though.

-Agreed

-Neutral, though I'd take a tent/bedroll if I had the option.

-Teleport? What happened to no fast travelling? Fireplace could make a good 'safe zone' too, for those who'd want it.

-Love it, but it seems like one of those things that sounds great on paper, but wouldn't/couldn't work out so smoothly in practice.

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GTA3Rockstar

Like I said in this topic: http://gtaforums.com/topic/691470-describe-a-perfect-game-to-you/

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"GTA mixed with the Sims and Project Spark.

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You make the map, you make your guy and the way GTA is played. :^:"

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GTA is 17 years old so GTAO is a great evolution for it multiplayer component (although this would be so debatable and disagreed my many GTA fans).I love RDR's Multiplayer and dont want it to change,For a 10 years old franchise (2004-2014) it way too young/unripe to have a Red Dead Online (RDO),same with the 3-Protags- System, but i could be wrong...i am not trying to add any fanboyism view into this thread but Red Dead imo is a Spin-off Franchise from GTA "GTA in the Wildwest" it a younger brother to the aforementioned franchise and if they take a break from making GTA or it goes for a 5-10 years break (God Forbid),the Red Dead franchise will take over GTA's Legacy not just as the "Ruler of OWG" but the Greatest Openworld/Sandbox Series.

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Fun Fact:Here is a great pattern;ID "gods of creating fps games" created two groundbreaking and Legendary FPS Game franchise-Wolfenstein (1992-2014) and DOOM (1993-2014)...R* "gods of creating OWG games" created two groundbreaking and Legendary OWG Game franchise-GTA (1997-2014) and Red Dead (2004-2014),same with Ubi with Stealth Games etc lol that a great pattern :)

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Zombie mode for GTA Online sounds ridiculous. Doesn't sound fun at all, it's just a nerfed version of a zombie game. Everything else sounds fine.

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The RDR ideas are very good though. Would definitely attract me to online.

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Ubi with Stealth Games etc lol that a great pattern :)

Does your mind even comprehend Metal Gear Solid? Now THAT is a stealth game.

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Ubi with Stealth Games etc lol that a great pattern :)

Does your mind even comprehend Metal Gear Solid? Now THAT is a stealth game.True,Konami is (was) the "god of making Stealth Games" but now i have to say it Ubi (even though i dont like them)...Hey Splinter Cell,AC and FarCry these 3 franchises innovated the Stealth Genre ALOT (even though AC is in the OWG). Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond
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They did innovate it. But they weren't the ones who invented it. Metal Gear invented the stealth genre, and the games you listed above don't even come close to being better at stealth than Metal Gear.

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They did innovate it. But they weren't the ones who invented it. Metal Gear invented the stealth genre, and the games you listed above don't even come close to being better at stealth than Metal Gear.

True,but what about Hitman (2001-2014) and Thief (1998-2014)? lol talking bout Stealth i am playing Blacklist right now :)

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Side Note:GTA (1997-2014) didnt create a Genre like MGS but it popularised a Genre forever.

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They all had their roots from Metal Gear Solid. A better example, especially for you, is the way games like Saints Row, True Crime and Mafia spawned from GTA.

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They all had their roots from Metal Gear Solid. A better example, especially for you, is the way games like Saints Row, True Crime and Mafia spawned from GTA.

True bro,but Regardless of how those games are called "GTA Clones" and they cant compete against GTA,Saints Row,Mafia and True Crime also Innovated the Genre i.e.Saints Row introduced Safehouse Customisation to the Genre and True Crime Reserved the Role of playing as a Criminal to Playing as a Cop.The only OWG that would give GTA a very hard time next-gen in terms of Gameplay features and Innovations will be Watch-Dogs (although not is Sales or Success/Receptions).I cant wait lol :)

Watch-Dogs is looking Great,The First Next-Generation of GTA will also be superb seeing it a successor to IV and V (both games that innovated HD OWG on the PS3/XB360 esp.V and it scope).

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I agree completely, but I don't think Watch Dogs, or any future open-world games will top GTA. GTA is always the go-to when it comes to open-world. Geez, I hope I don't sound like some hardcore GTA fanboy, because I don't want to.

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I agree completely, but I don't think Watch Dogs, or any future open-world games will top GTA. GTA is always the go-to when it comes to open-world. Geez, I hope I don't sound like some hardcore GTA fanboy, because I don't want to.

True bro.

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I agree completely, but I don't think Watch Dogs, or any future open-world games will top GTA. GTA is always the go-to when it comes to open-world. Geez, I hope I don't sound like some hardcore GTA fanboy, because I don't want to.

Not at all, because you're right. Just like cars. When people are thinking high end sports cars, people think Ferrari and Lamborghini. When people think open world games people think Grand Theft Auto.

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I agree completely, but I don't think Watch Dogs, or any future open-world games will top GTA. GTA is always the go-to when it comes to open-world. Geez, I hope I don't sound like some hardcore GTA fanboy, because I don't want to.

Not at all, because you're right. Just like cars. When people are thinking high end sports cars, people think Ferrari and Lamborghini. When people think open world games people think Grand Theft Auto.(no offense) but you are the Perfect Definition of an H-Y-P-O-C-R-T-I-C.why? me:"Watch-Dogs is a great game but it a GTA Clone" and you:"Stop d*ckriding Rockstar and GTA,no OWG are GTA Clone,Stop mentioning GTA,you are a dickhead" Meanwhile you just agreed with the above comment.

I am not trying to be offensive or anything i am just saying,afterall i do respect everyone on the forum and i am not an abusive person (unless you are to me).I know you will reply back but i might not reply or start any arguement with you. you even reported me to the mods so i wont be surprise if you do again.

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iiConTr0v3rSYx

My brain hurts anytime I see one of your comments.

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And the attack against Darth is unwarranted. No one on the forums includes 'GTA" in their posts as much as you do. Even when the subject on hand isn't even related to GTA, you have to find one small way to include it.

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Exactly why I stay away from the WatchDogs thread.

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RDR is already Perfect, There isn't anything to Improve.

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RDR is already Perfect, There isn't anything to Improve.

Don't get me wrong, RDR still stands as my favorite video game of all time, and I wouldn't want that to change. These ideas would just be additions, and they wouldn't completely change the idea of Red Dead. Hopefully, you would still be able to play the game in its original state. The realism mode would just be another option, if you wanted to have more things to do in the open world.

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I agree completely, but I don't think Watch Dogs, or any future open-world games will top GTA. GTA is always the go-to when it comes to open-world. Geez, I hope I don't sound like some hardcore GTA fanboy, because I don't want to.

Not at all, because you're right. Just like cars. When people are thinking high end sports cars, people think Ferrari and Lamborghini. When people think open world games people think Grand Theft Auto.

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(no offense) but you are the Perfect Definition of an H-Y-P-O-C-R-T-I-C.why? me:"Watch-Dogs is a great game but it a GTA Clone" and you:"Stop d*ckriding Rockstar and GTA,no OWG are GTA Clone,Stop mentioning GTA,you are a dickhead" Meanwhile you just agreed with the above comment.

I am not trying to be offensive or anything i am just saying,afterall i do respect everyone on the forum and i am not an abusive person (unless you are to me).I know you will reply back but i might not reply or start any arguement with you. you even reported me to the mods so i wont be surprise if you do again.

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Firstly, that's not how you spell hypocrite or hypocritic. The difference between you and Darth is that you are absolutely incapable of accepting that GTA has its faults. I agree with him; when you think of OWGs, you think of GTA. That doesn't mean that it is the magnum opus of the open world genre. Also, there's a reason that you've been reported to the Mods by multiple people. It's because you're a 100% obsessive fanboy. You say that you accept others' opinions, then you do a 360 and insult them by calling them haters.

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He's not a hypocrite. You are.

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My brain hurts anytime I see one of your comments.

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And the attack against Darth is unwarranted. No one on the forums includes 'GTA" in their posts as much as you do. Even when the subject on hand isn't even related to GTA, you have to find one small way to include it.

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Exactly why I stay away from the WatchDogs thread.

Lol "attack"? noone is attacking each other hence abusing.Btw my use of GTA is always on their respective threads/sections,my mentioning of GTA on the WD thread is known as "Comparisons" there is nothing fanboyism around that,I could do the same with let say RDR and AC both many here dont like that.But anyways everything between me and him is fine,i was just replying to his comment above. Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond
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seniorshanker

I added a couple of items to the lists. If anyone has any ideas not shown in the lists, comment with them and if they are good, I will add them.

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I added a couple of items to the lists. If anyone has any ideas not shown in the lists, comment with them and if they are good, I will add them.

Lol some of these ideas i am about to list are SO Stupid and Over-The-Top Crazy but here we go:

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*The Ability to Marry a Female GTAO player (vice Versa)

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*A Man-Made Island created by R* that makes every Peds a GTAO player (instead of 16 Players,it should be 2ml players) :lol:

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*Female GTAO players can get pregnant in-game and give birth to any baby which could be use as a system in creating how characters (aswell).

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*Ability to get a part-time job i.e. Doctor,Mid-wife,Pornstar,or become a gang member with NPCs ;)

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*GTAO "HOT COFFEE MOD" ;)

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*The Ability to be a Farmer,A builder etc and just like how there is a Content Creator and Soon a Capture Creator,maybe a Sim-Style but with a GTA twist Buildings Creator.

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*The Ability to have emotions;Cry,Laugh etc although i like what they did with option to choose any facial expressions in the menu.

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*The Ability to DIE and Go to Heaven/Hell

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ETC!!!

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FranklinDeRoosevelt

What...the...f*ck did I just read? Oh wait, good thing I stopped reading after the first line.

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seniorshanker

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I added a couple of items to the lists. If anyone has any ideas not shown in the lists, comment with them and if they are good, I will add them.

Lol some of these ideas i am about to list are SO Stupid and Over-The-Top Crazy but here we go:

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*The Ability to Marry a Female GTAO player (vice Versa)

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*A Man-Made Island created by R* that makes every Peds a GTAO player (instead of 16 Players,it should be 2ml players) :lol:

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*Female GTAO players can get pregnant in-game and give birth to any baby which could be use as a system in creating how characters (aswell).

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*Ability to get a part-time job i.e. Doctor,Mid-wife,Pornstar,or become a gang member with NPCs ;)

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*GTAO "HOT COFFEE MOD" ;)

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*The Ability to be a Farmer,A builder etc and just like how there is a Content Creator and Soon a Capture Creator,maybe a Sim-Style but with a GTA twist Buildings Creator.

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*The Ability to have emotions;Cry,Laugh etc although i like what they did with option to choose any facial expressions in the menu.

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*The Ability to DIE and Go to Heaven/Hell

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ETC!!!

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I think rockstar would like GTA to keep its distance from real life. We don't want everybody walking around thinking they can just shoot up a bunch of people and get away with it.

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OP:True...

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@FranklinDeRoosevelt

Lol i just came out with crazy sh*ts for that list

:lol:

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Lassos in MP – Players could take each other prisoner. Players may be able to break out of it after a while, and a player would get one lasso per life.

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Those lassos in MP would actually be hilarious :D. I'd definitely tie some kid and let his squeaky voice shout through the microphone.

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