Phillipino0418 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Im still playing GTA III so i'm trying to finish the mission but when im came in the mission ''Last Request'' Why Salvatore Leone & 8 Ball trying to kill Claude from the trap car ? i don't know why because Claude work for Salvatore Leone & 8 Ball but why they like both to kill Claude ? Can anyone can explainde ? because ain't know. - Sorry for bad english - Phillipino0418 Edited April 4, 2014 by Phillipino0418 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiffster Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Because Salvatore gets increasingly paranoid of everyone around him as he believes they will all turn against him, which is why he tries to get rid of Claude after Maria (his wife) told him that the two of them were having an affair. And I don't think that 8-Ball knew that Claude was Salvatore's target, but I may be wrong. Can't remember... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065114458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmudziak32 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 IF not the stupid Maria, we would work for SAL like in LCS. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065115907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadge Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Claude shoots Maria at the end anyway, so what the fuss ! x) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065115990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmudziak32 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 We actually don't know that Claude kill Maria, he could use shotgun to shut up her. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065116012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zodape Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Even if Salvatore was paranoid, he didn't want to kill Claude because he could be a traitor. Maria told Salvatore that she was daiting Claude just to piss him off. It worked, so he wanted to get rid of him. I don't think 8-Ball wanted to kill Claude. We don't know if he was the one that rigged the Cheetah, and even if he did, he either didn't know that it was gonna be used to kill Claude, or if he did, well, nothing personal, just bussiness. //XP// and yaroslaviy 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065123951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillipino0418 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Oh thank's guys so Claude kill Maria ? so i know now what happen on Maria in the last mission when i heard gun sound the Maria stop talking so Claude kill Maria...Thank's... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065134023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreaz1 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 No one knows if he kills her or not. The plot was left ambiguous and it's never been officially revealed what was meant to happen. It is assumed that 8-Ball was the one placed the bomb in the Cheetah as his and Claude's affiliation ends quite abruptly at that point in the story which suggests that Claude knows it was him and/or that 8-Ball has gone in to hiding. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065135090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillipino0418 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Ok thank's to Andreaz1 but i have again question when Claude killed Salvatore Toni Cipriani will become enemy of Claude ? or still friend ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065139609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreaz1 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Tony and all of the remaining Mafia people (Joey Leone, Luigi Goterelli) are his enemies from that point on. Any missions you might have left for either of them when you do "Last Requests" will become permanently disabled after that mission. This is one of the ways to make it impossible to reach 100% completion of the game. a20characterusername 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065139658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy007 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Because Salvatore gets increasingly paranoid of everyone around him as he believes they will all turn against him, which is why he tries to get rid of Claude after Maria (his wife) told him that the two of them were having an affair. And I don't think that 8-Ball knew that Claude was Salvatore's target, but I may be wrong. Can't remember... 8-Ball was cool with Claude the whole game, so I doubt he knew what the target was for. He probably just installed the bomb and no questions asked. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065159951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) After the incidents of Liberty City stories, Salvatore gets highly paranoid and starts distrusting everyone. Claude knew too much of what Salvatore did and in addition to that when Maria tells him about her affair with Claude, he gets increasingly paranoid. Claude's death didn't come as a surprise to 8-Ball. He works for Leone Family and must have done 100s of such tasks before. Jealously may have been the reason why Salvatore wanted to separate Maria and Claude. Edited April 15, 2014 by ArchKnight Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065192480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartleby Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) The conventional reason for "Last Requests" has been pretty well covered by now, but if I could plug an alternative theory put forward by RiffRaff1138 quite some time ago that I always found to be interesting. If you'd rather a TL:DR, basically Asuka and Maria trick Claude into working for the Yakuza by making the whole thing up. I'm not sure if some events in LCS contradict that as I've never played it, but I thought it was a fun thing to think about. Edited April 15, 2014 by Bartleby Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065193422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markusizr Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 i guess catalina and salvatore made surprize for claude but i am not sure Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065194490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) i guess catalina and salvatore made surprize for claude but i am not sure Catlina and Salvatore were never involved together. Leone Mafia and the Cartels hate each other. The conventional reason for "Last Requests" has been pretty well covered by now, but if I could plug an alternative theory put forward by RiffRaff1138 quite some time ago that I always found to be interesting. If you'd rather a TL:DR, basically Asuka and Maria trick Claude into working for the Yakuza by making the whole thing up. I'm not sure if some events in LCS contradict that as I've never played it, but I thought it was a fun thing to think about.I'm not sure how correct the theory is, but we know from LCS that Salvatore even tried killing Toni during Driving Mr. Leone and was paranoid that both Toni and his mother attempted to take hm down. He has the similar trust issues with Claude and decides to get rid of him. Edited April 16, 2014 by ArchKnight Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065197246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy007 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I kind of wish you could see Joey as the Don and how things were run. Rustyspanner 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065203813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later. orbitalraindrops and Bartleby 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065284237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadge Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later. That's a good point, I almost forget that one. It might be one the reasons why Sal became paranoid. But where is it metionned that Claude dates Maria ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065292394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The reason for Salvatore's paranoia is actually shown first hand in GTA San Andreas. When Carl begins working for Salvatore at Caligula's Casino but later robs the place in Breaking the Bank at Caligula's, Salvatore will ring up Carl and mention how he stabbed him in the back. This is, in my opinion, a clear reference to the events of GTA 3 which take place about 8 years later. That's a good point, I almost forget that one. It might be one the reasons why Sal became paranoid. But where is it metionned that Claude dates Maria ? They never dated exactly, but when she tells Salvatore that she and Claude have entered into a relationship and "they were an item", it might be the reason leading to Salvatore trying to kill Claude. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065296562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 To me it actually seemed as if it was a forced relationship of sorts. Maria seemed to be into it an all that shizz but Claude, obviously being unable/unwanting to speak didn't want any of it, ultimately leading to the lack of remorse when he finally killed Maria (in my opinion he killed her, but that's got its own topic). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065296742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Well, at times it did seem like Maria was trying to force a relationship. Maybe she didn't want to be with Salvatore or the LFM anymore. Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065301174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamalG Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 god, i remember being soooo pissed off bout the end of working for Salvatore and even having to kill him 10 years ago... guess thats main reason why i prefer LCS over III - it kinda fixed my childhood (i was about 12 or 13 at the time) trauma lol Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065305917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrrhic Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her. Wellll we can't say that for sure. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065317845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her. Wellll we can't say that for sure. Sometimes I like to imagine right as they climbed to the top of the dam, a clown pops out of nowhere, startles Claude, and gets shot by Claude. Edited May 14, 2014 by universetwisters Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065385429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavle Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Claude didn't kill her. Just a fired somewhere to silence her. Wellll we can't say that for sure. Sometimes I like to imagine right as they climbed to the top of the dam, a clown pops out of nowhere, startles Claude, and gets shot by Claude. It would be better to kill both Maria and the clown if it popped out. Maria is annoying in my opinnion. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065388058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy007 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 About the shooting Maria thing, I personally think it was a way to end the dialog and just get on with the end credits music. That's just my opinion. Perhaps we should send a letter to R* asking them what the shot meant once and for all. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065476741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreaz1 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Loads of people already have. We'll never know. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065476863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 About the shooting Maria thing, I personally think it was a way to end the dialog and just get on with the end credits music. That's just my opinion. Perhaps we should send a letter to R* asking them what the shot meant once and for all.They may have resisted many such offers over the decades. There's no use of writing to them. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065477114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulululi Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's true sal wanted to kill Claude but I think 8-Ball did not know that Claude was the target or maybe Salvatore gave 8-Ball $$$$$$$ in order to kill Claude Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065509407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It's true sal wanted to kill Claude but I think 8-Ball did not know that Claude was the target or maybe Salvatore gave 8-Ball $$$$$$$ in order to kill Claude8-Ball was never the Muscle Man or cleaner. Claude would easily send him to death. Possibly, 8-ball knew, since he's been with Leone Family for years. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/698567-i-have-question-about-last-request/#findComment-1065514461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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