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jondean31

is SA the Most overrated game in history?

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DK06282000
15 hours ago, wfank said:

Not in the least. GTA VC is way more overrated, its limed af, a trapped place with NOTHING INTERESTING TO DO, othere than missions which are so few. Its the same as GTA 3, though livelier, it makes nothing more improved. SA is a game that has everything, even not doing missions you can enjoy plenty of stuffs sky diving, gang wars, customizing CJ the way you want, gyms, flying, it introduced the buy cloth system, gambling, everything. SA is in no way overrated and you speak on behalf of no one. Fact is the haters of SA are racist bunch who deosnt like strong black lead characters. Vice City is was more overrated than anything , it has nothing to offer other than missions, everything else like rampages are 2 % of what SA has. Even GTA 4 takes away most of the features of SA, and what makes a game great is having great features. Still GTA 4 I enjoy the hd graphics, Niko is my fav protagonist, love the choice of endings and brilliant characters like Roman , and the in depth story. SA and 4 are not only the best gta games ever, for me personally (unlike you I dont try to speak on behalf of ppl), tied together as the tw greatest game ever. SA has by far the biggest map and storyline ever. GTA 5 totally cuts away San fario and Las Venturas and feels small to it both smap size wise and story wise. Vice City and 3 you cant hardly have any fun without attracting police, who just knoks you out with night stick and you are busted, every time the Haitians charge at me and I want to retaliate, cops interfere, you can ABSOLUTELY DO NOTHING IN THAT PRISON GAME, but in SA Ballas, Vagos, Rifas, Triads, you can fight with anyone you want and aezakmi does the work, you do not have to keep typing leave me alone and no police please as in VC and 3.  Stlll GTA 3 brought the 3D world so I would refrain from calling it overrated.   But white boy Tommy lovers will keep whining because SA is a better game than Vice City ever was or will be. Even the portable VCS has much to offer and Victor has a way more personality than Tommy, but racists hate him too. Still not saying I hate Vice City, hating is a different thing, I like the game, but as some acts its the best ever or whatever, I say it is the most overrated for that followed by 5, but surprisingly people do admit 5 limitations as I see here. My least fav is LCS and GTA SA and 4 imo are tied as the best ever in the series!

So you accuse those who don't like the game for being racists to both CJ and Vic and then go around to call them "white boy Tommy lovers"? So who did you say were the racists again?

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muvdafucupouttahere

San Andreas IS overrated, but definitely not THE most overrated game of the series. That goes to GTA 4. It's a great game, but people praise the living sh*t out of it like it's a gift from the heaven because it's sooooooo realistic and is verrrrrry flawless. Niko is also the most overrated protagonist of the whole series.

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Son of Zeus
3 hours ago, muvdafucupouttahere said:

San Andreas IS overrated, but definitely not THE most overrated game of the series. That goes to GTA 4. It's a great game, but people praise the living sh*t out of it like it's a gift from the heaven because it's sooooooo realistic and is verrrrrry flawless. Niko is also the most overrated protagonist of the whole series.

Agreed. IV is definitely more overrated these days haha. And Niko was pretty forgettable. 

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SonOfLiberty
21 hours ago, lil weasel said:

The game has so many first, any idea that it is overrated can only be claimed by children not born prior to its publication.

I'm 33 and have always regarded San Andreas as being overrated. Saying only children born after 2004 can claim it really just makes you look ignorant.

 

And honestly the last couple of pages of this thread are gold. Lebron James of GTA lol. It might not be the most overrated game in the history of video games, but within the R*/GTA stable absolutely it is.

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TheSantader25

This thread is a solid proof that it's actually underrated. People should always respect each other's opinions but I just can't understand anyone who didn't like this game while being a GTA fan. It's literally the only game in the world I can't believe anyone can dislike/underappreciate. That's just how I feel. 

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Billy Russo

I wouldn't say it's overrated.

 

It was incredible for it's time, it captures the feel it was going for perfectly, the characters were great, the map was huge for it's time, the soundtrack was amazing. There is so much activities to do it and the storyline was fun. It's still one of the most alive games I've ever played, it still feels more alive than GTA V which a lot of the times feels so damn lifeless to me.

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mustafa the king

The game is a good game 

The game isn't overrated or underrated 

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Fluffy Sock

Isn't even overrated to begin with.

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liam_mason

GTA san andreas is probably the best selling video game of all time, with overall 21.5 million copies sold, it was released for xbox 360,ps2 and PC and now on Android smartphone,the gameplay is very concise and all missions required strategy.

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BayuSumardi

It deserves it praise. Sure the story is kind-of silly but the gameplay is just outstanding. There's too many things to discover and lot of things going on the map. The visuals are still nice too look at too.
The map is diverse too, from ghetto streets, rural houses to rich casinos. There's alot of vehicle you can use here, that's one another point and alot of those vehicles were very good and adds new atmosphere to the game.

If anything, I would say GTA Vice City is borderline overrated. The story is excellent but other than that, it's outdated. The gameplay is still fun to play, but you can't do many things other than causing chaos after the game is over. The map, I might be get a lot of hate here... The map is the worst map in GTA series. I've seen better on GTA III and GTA Vice City map is just.. too rushed, too small and barren.
What's the point of having large beaches from north to south with no actual interaction could be done on it? Barely any pedestrians spawns on the Beach too.
Even GTA SA Verona Beach is more lively being a smaller league. Just remember beaches and beach bums wasn't the main focus on GTA San Andreas aesthetics (it was Vice City that did it.)
 

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Timcatgt5

GTA San Andreas is my all-time favourite video game, it's not overrated, but it's far from the perfect experience. 

 

The story suffered a dip after The Green Sabre, but it would have been difficult to develop a story purely dedicated to within the Los Santos region, or at least enhance the story for the other 2 cities, and therefore sacrificed the plot for added content such as San Fierro and Las Venturas and a wide variety of mini games in order to enhance the quality and quantity of the game. 

 

The protagonist is a bag of uncertainty, he definitely wanted to move out of the hood, but wasn't so sure what he wanted to do, so his lack of motivation is questionable. The writers definitely tried to turn the game into a Michael Bay movie with a plot to match. 

 

After all, an ordinary gang banger turns into a manager for a famous rap musician, owns and operates a car dealership and chop shop, a stake in a casino, stole an experimental jetpack, an unknown device from a freight train and a military jet from the Navy, and we never blinked an eye. 

 

Apart from this, the game is fantastic and unlikely to be matched in its class. 

 

An ensemble cast, many available activities, 3 cities and varying terrain, atmosphere, vehicles, music and its significance still makes it relevant today. 

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Euri13

Short answer: yes.

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AUScowboy

The opposite IMO. So many young folks will never understand what a groundbreaking open world game it was, I would say it’s grown to be under appreciated.

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DirtCheap

No way, it deserves all the praise it gets.

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El Penguin Bobo

Well, in my opinion....yeah, a little bit.

 

It's not that I hate the game, it's just that everyone treats it as if it was the best game of all time, and nothing could ever beat it. In 2004/2010, the praise was well deserved as it was pretty ambitious for its time. And now, looking back at it...

 

The story wasn't all that great, the protagonist is a cookie cutting bitch, some mechanics are really outdated, and there's some really annoying characters that makes you want to punch them and cracking your TV screen in the process.

 

And as it pains me to say this, and I know fellow IV fans might rip my head off for this, (talking to you American Venom), but imo, IV is slightly overrated as well. Don't get me wrong, IV is my favorite game in the HD era, but I have to admit that some people do treat like it's a artifact made by the gods... Story is fantastic, protagonist is great, graphics still hold up til this day, but the gameplay could have been so much better....

 

TLDR: In some ways, yes.

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SonOfLiberty
3 hours ago, xXPinguXx said:

Well, in my opinion....yeah, a little bit.

 

It's not that I hate the game, it's just that everyone treats it as if it was the best game of all time, and nothing could ever beat it. In 2004/2010, the praise was well deserved as it was pretty ambitious for its time. And now, looking back at it...

 

The story wasn't all that great, the protagonist is a cookie cutting bitch, some mechanics are really outdated, and there's some really annoying characters that makes you want to punch them and cracking your TV screen in the process.

 

And as it pains me to say this, and I know fellow IV fans might rip my head off for this, (talking to you American Venom), but imo, IV is slightly overrated as well. Don't get me wrong, IV is my favorite game in the HD era, but I have to admit that some people do treat like it's a artifact made by the gods... Story is fantastic, protagonist is great, graphics still hold up til this day, but the gameplay could have been so much better....

 

TLDR: In some ways, yes.

Dude why would you assume I would rip your head off? Everyone knows I like throwing my victims into a wood chipper.

 

:blush:

 

 

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CanadianMuscle

It's not overrated for all the memes it had.

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Copcaller

Feel like gta vc is the most overrated imo 

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Journey_95
Posted (edited)

It's no doubt a really good game but yeah it's the most overrated one. Seems almost untouchable to criticism (outside this forum at times) and gets circlejerked the most. 

 

On 1/29/2019 at 4:50 AM, muvdafucupouttahere said:

San Andreas IS overrated, but definitely not THE most overrated game of the series. That goes to GTA 4. It's a great game, but people praise the living sh*t out of it like it's a gift from the heaven because it's sooooooo realistic and is verrrrrry flawless. Niko is also the most overrated protagonist of the whole series.

Except GTA IV only gets so much love on this forum (sadly) so it can't be the most overrated one. It's still divisive among the general gaming community unlike SA which is still circlejerked by many as peak Rockstar

 

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ThatKyloRenGuy

As good of a game it really is, it really isn’t THE most overrated, but it definitely is in the realm of GTA/R* games. I WOULD rather give this title to GTA V, but it seems as if enough people don’t care for it..

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SonOfLiberty
On 4/16/2019 at 9:08 AM, Journey_95 said:

It's no doubt a really good game but yeah it's the most overrated one. Seems almost untouchable to criticism (outside this forum at times) and gets circlejerked the most. 

It gets worse as the game gets older and in turn becomes more dated, but it's still treated like it's the formula every open game should follow (Not just the GTA series).

 

Now I don't have anything against someone regarding it as their favourite GTA. Of course not, but the idea it's untouchable because all of its features, map etc is rather cringe worthy. The blind nostalgia for it is one of the things really holding the series back from moving forward.

 

If GTA V didn't trip over its own feet trying to make sure the San Andreas fanboys had their precious planes, parachutes, tanks etc we might've even seen a new location by now. 

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Sinner!

I wouldn't go that far 

 

I think it's just got such a crazed cult following that people ignore the faults & put it on a god-like pedestal.

 

I would not say overrated, more over-worshipped to the point of ridiculous.

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Son of Zeus
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, American Venom said:

If GTA V didn't trip over its own feet trying to make sure the San Andreas fanboys had their precious planes, parachutes, tanks etc we might've even seen a new location by now. 

What does planes or tanks have to with new locations? These things are popular, so makes sense they would be brought back. Liberty City has been done in HD, seems natural they would do the other 3D cities in HD too. I'm sure these things would've been there even if it was set in a bigger Vice City.

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SonOfLiberty
6 hours ago, Son of Zeus said:

What does planes or tanks have to with new locations? These things are popular, so makes sense they would be brought back. Liberty City has been done in HD, seems natural they would do the other 3D cities in HD too. I'm sure these things would've been there even if it was set in a bigger Vice City.

What I'm saying is R* prioritised bringing back these "popular features" over trying something new like a new location. The main reason Liberty City was revisited was R* felt it wasn't done that well in the 3D era so with better technology they were able to get something much closer to what they envisioned in 2001, but weren't able to achieve.

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Son of Zeus
12 minutes ago, American Venom said:

What I'm saying is R* prioritised bringing back these "popular features" over trying something new like a new location. The main reason Liberty City was revisited was R* felt it wasn't done that well in the 3D era so with better technology they were able to get something much closer to what they envisioned in 2001, but weren't able to achieve 

I don't think that was the reason they didn't try a new location. I mean even if it was a new location, they still could've included planes and stuff. I read somewhere they wanted to re-do the full San Andreas state in HD to realise its full potential.

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Sinner!
12 hours ago, American Venom said:

What I'm saying is R* prioritised bringing back these "popular features" over trying something new like a new location.

 

Baseless assumption & conjecture & there's zero correlation between the inclusion of past features & a new location. 

 

Though you're talking about V, so I don't expect you to be objective. 

 

 

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SonOfLiberty
1 hour ago, Sinner! said:

 

Baseless assumption & conjecture & there's zero correlation between the inclusion of past features & a new location. 

 

Though you're talking about V, so I don't expect you to be objective. 

 

 

Just as it's a baseless assumption to assume these features would've ended up in Vice City (If that's the location they chose for GTA V instead). It's not like anyone here actually works for R* and knows their exact plans. Many things can be chalked up as "baseless assumptions".

 

However getting back to my real point .I feel GTA V pandered too hard to San Andreas fanboys that couldn't deal with the fact the series had moved on. I'm even having my concerns now GTA VI won't even be in Vice City or somewhere new. Son Of Zeus said R* wanted to do the full San Andreas state in HD, but we've only seen part of it.

 

No. I reckon R* will reuse GTA V's map and extend it with San Fierro and Las Venturas added onto to it since that was also a common whine before/after GTA V's release because of their exclusion. I'm happy to be proven wrong and I hope I am, but it wouldn't be that surprising seeing as the San Andreas nostalgia circlejerk is still in full swing some 15 years later.

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TheSantader25
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, American Venom said:

Just as it's a baseless assumption to assume these features would've ended up in Vice City (If that's the location they chose for GTA V instead). It's not like anyone here actually works for R* and knows their exact plans. Many things can be chalked up as "baseless assumptions".

 

However getting back to my real point .I feel GTA V pandered too hard to San Andreas fanboys that couldn't deal with the fact the series had moved on. I'm even having my concerns now GTA VI won't even be in Vice City or somewhere new. Son Of Zeus said R* wanted to do the full San Andreas state in HD, but we've only seen part of it.

 

No. I reckon R* will reuse GTA V's map and extend it with San Fierro and Las Venturas added onto to it since that was also a common whine before/after GTA V's release because of their exclusion. I'm happy to be proven wrong and I hope I am, but it wouldn't be that surprising seeing as the San Andreas nostalgia circlejerk is still in full swing some 15 years later.

Why would you be hoping otherwise though if they do it right. Do you have a problem with San Fierro and LV if they're done right?

 

In the end "setting" is a matter of preference. There are rumors that they want to do VC and LC together and that has me worried too because they have used LC way too much. 

 

I myself wish for Las Venturas and a new city like San Diego. Maybe throw in a bit of Mexico in there too. 

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SonOfLiberty
55 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Why would you be hoping otherwise though if they do it right. Do you have a problem with San Fierro and LV if they're done right?

 

In the end "setting" is a matter of preference. There are rumors that they want to do VC and LC together and that has me worried too because they have used LC way too much. 

 

I myself wish for Las Venturas and a new city like San Diego. Maybe throw in a bit of Mexico in there too. 

Dude if you know anything about me from the time you've been on this forum you should know I prefer East Coast cities as I find them far more interesting so yes it comes down to preference. It's Vice City or somewhere new like Atlanta, Boston, Philadelphia etc or bust as far concerned.

 

San Fierro and Las Venturas just aren't interesting to me to warrant their own games so I hope R* don't do the obvious thing and tack them onto GTA V's map.

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TheSantader25
Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, American Venom said:

Dude if you know anything about me from the time you've been on this forum you should know I prefer East Coast cities as I find them far more interesting so yes it comes down to preference. It's Vice City or somewhere new like Atlanta, Boston, Philadelphia etc or bust as far concerned.

 

San Fierro and Las Venturas just aren't interesting to me to warrant their own games so I hope R* don't do the obvious thing and tack them onto GTA V's map.

The "obvious" thing right now is Vice City tbh. The Location thread suggests this as well. I'll be surprised if they do LV. Most people in most forums or YouTube comments are expecting a VC remake. The logic is "they've done LC and SA(Though it was barely half of it) so it's Vice City's turn". 

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