Nz_fool Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Hey guys, How do you feel about not seeing past GTA characters in GTA V? It's nothing new and you may know R* always said, "The 3D universe doesn't exist in the HD universe." and that's why they can't be seen together, etc. This is a ridiculous excuse, there is no reason not to create an HD character from a 3D character, fan art shows it is very achievable, I have seen some amazing paintings of characters from 3D GTAs, and how about Max Payne? Another R* game, who's protag has been the same person throughout the 3D and HD era, no fuss in different universes there, same company, same game engines as 3D/HD GTA games, and one other fact that really made me think is, if you got the collectors edition of the game, you can choose some very special parents for your character in GTA Online: Claude from GTA III (A 3D GTA game) Mindy from GTA III R* broke the fourth rule here, adding a 3D character in an HD game, the complete opposite of what R* had said was not "Possible" These are just my thoughts, and most of the stuff I have written might not appeal to you, but I just think if GTA fans want to see a favourite character of theirs from a past game, they should at least get a cameo. Below are Fan Made 3D character painting, and I think this is what they could look like in an HD game: ***EDIT*** Many points below, if this post doesn't make sense I'm sure the comments will help you Edited April 4, 2014 by Nz_fool ChrisMathers3501, Django Fett, sqre and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YukiEiri Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon.GTA V does not have those characters.Your whining is pointless. ***** EDIT *****And how are "paintings" "HD"? Edited April 2, 2014 by YukiEiri damian001, mastershake616, GroundZero and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nz_fool Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon. GTA V does not have those characters. Your whining is pointless. ***** EDIT ***** And how are "paintings" "HD"? I'm not whining, just saying what I think, and if Online Co-exists, then why aren't all of our other favourite characters playing a part in it? I'm not saying they won't, there are still more DLCs to be released, so we shall wait and see. *****EDIT***** Realistic is what I meant, as close as they will get if they were to be in HD Django Fett 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) As said above, online isn't canon. The different universe argument has nothing to do with previous characters not being achievable. It's Rockstar's explanation for why things such as Liberty City are almost completely different in the HD games. However, there are still some things that do infact break the HD vs 3D arguement, most notably a scene in one of the TV shows of IV. Warning: Large image It's clearly the 3D era San Andreas with Las Venturas right next to Los Santos and San Fierro, which would be impossible in the HD era for obvious reasons. Only way for Rockstar to break that inconsistency is to claim that the area is an entirely different area in the HD era. Edited April 2, 2014 by oCrapaCreeper Nz_fool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty892 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 In GTA Online we can make a totally new character using Claude and Misty as a parents. We can't play directly as them, so technically they don't exist in HD era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_snacks Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Wish they did. Would be cool to play as Claude. I wanna know what his voice sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggleman Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I don't care about universes but it keeps things fresh instead of them just recycling old characters. Zello, Miketv, theNGclan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben73 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I really don't care about seeing old characters in newer games. When past characters show up, it needs to fit the story. Not just jaming people in there to keep the nostalgic people happy. Miketv, TaviColen123, Dope_0110 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygrowls Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 It would be good if Rockstar made an epilogue to each 3D universe game (excluding Vice City Stories because well, ya know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theNGclan Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 "Waaaa a gaming company wanted to reboot their series! What assholes!" Grow up. TaviColen123, GroundZero, Alec Skorpio and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol232 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 There are no "UNIVERSES" in Max Payne 3, and Max Payne 3 is based on real life places, and Max Payne isn't canon with GTA. Claude and Misty aren't canon in GTA O because they just appear as parents, and that's just to make your character look like them. And finally, there's no such thing as "HD PAINTING". blakeney and mastershake616 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDSTEROK Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 GTA online is not canon so they can do that. It co-excists, but is not canon. GTA V does not have those characters. Your whining is pointless. ***** EDIT ***** And how are "paintings" "HD"? I'm not whining, just saying what I think, and if Online Co-exists, then why aren't all of our other favourite characters playing a part in it? I'm not saying they won't, there are still more DLCs to be released, so we shall wait and see. *****EDIT***** Realistic is what I meant, as close as they will get if they were to be in HD Think youre taking them too literal. What I took away from the different universe is that was then this is now, we're doing something different. tbh you do come off whiny. Like a child thats been told no but still go but whyyyyyyy? blakeney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
univ69 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Is the first one fan art of Dr. Dre? HOW'S ANNIE?, imurasianbuddy and bootswitdafur 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami Uso Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Today I learned "paintings" are now called HD. Today I learned "you're " a fa**ot! WOW! And today I learned that you're a 12 year old. Seriously, please stop. Just.....stahp."f*ck off." Was that supposed to be a comeback? Also ,why are you defending this guy? I'm sure he can defend himself and if not then too bad. Edited April 2, 2014 by TensaZangetsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOW'S ANNIE? Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 If anything I much prefer to keep the HD era and the 3D era seperate. Granted the 3D era had some pretty good character (Tommy, The Truth, Toni Cipriani, etc) but I see no reason for any of the 3D era characters to show up again. Anyway, I would much prefer to not think that Niko exists in the same universe as CJ (that said I would also love to think Niko doesn't coexist with Trevor, but that can't be helped now). If you look at all the plots, the 3D era is just one large story starting with Martinez kicking Vic out of the army and ending with Claude killing Catalina. Where on the other hand the HD era are all seperate stories, with certain characters and plots intersecting. And then there's the fact that Rockstar are allowed to remake cities and do them right, and then keep with continuity (being a big fan of San Francisco, I would be pissed off if they reused the sh*tty SF from SA again too). Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectBlade Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Today I learned "paintings" are now called HD. Today I learned "you're " a fa**ot! WOW! And today I learned that you're a 12 year old. Seriously, please stop. Just.....stahp."f*ck off." Was that supposed to be a comeback? Also ,why are you defending this guy? I'm sure he can defend himself and if not then too bad. sorry..but i hate the people who says..: oh..12 years old fagg and something like that. And he got an opinion about 3d era.....even if it's a dumb one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Skorpio Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Jesus, people just can't f*cking let go of the old games, can they? Even if they did decide to keep the eras together, what's the f*cking point? They were never going to re-use characters anyways. The only one they could even reuse is Claude, and they wouldn't do that because he was the silent protagonist representing the player, an element from an era of video games that's was already old when he was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveGrimes96 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) rockstar should just forget about the different era's. I would like to get missions in future gta's from the truth, ken rosenberg, mike toreno or kent paul or maccer. and like to see more places from the 3d era games there are hardly any place from the original los santos part of the san andreas map Edited April 2, 2014 by davegrimes96 ChrisMathers3501 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiizardii Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Another stupid thread.... PreciousWall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shattered-minds Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 rockstar should just forget about the different era's. I would like to get missions in future gta's from the truth, ken rosenberg, mike toreno or kent paul or maccer. and like to see more places from the 3d era games there are hardly any place from the original los santos part of the san andreas map I'd rather them think up new and interesting characters as memorable The Truth, Rosenbrg, Toreno and Maccer than than just reusing the same old characters. They were memorable and likable, but if they just keep reusing the same characters in every game, the series as a whole would suffer for it. I like the universe concept. I don't mind them re-imaginging older locations, so long as they bring something new to the table each time and it makes sure that each iteration makes sense within its own universe. In the future though I hope they move away from LC, VC, LS, SF & LV and start using new cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) As of now GTA is a multi-verse franchise (2D,3D and HD) i cant see them unifying the 3 Universes esp. when the 2D Era games were released on 1990s hardwares (1997-1999) and the 3D on early 2000s hardwares (2001-2006),plus the HD Universe will be long-lasting (unlike 2D and 3D Eras) until Rockstar totally reboot GTA (but i cant see them doing it now,maybe when GTA is 30 or so years older or maybe after GTA's 20th Year in 2017). Side Note:GTAO is non-canon to IV and V (HD Era) infact it the only game in the franchise that Rockstar can use to do alot of crazy sh*t in-between the Multiverse. Edited April 2, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinDeRoosevelt Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Yes because San Andreas 2 would be sh*t and ridiculous, and the story would be even worse. Vice City 2 would be terrible as well. So its better the HD era gets new protagonists with a new story in a new recreated world, because you have new things to do, explore, online, new story so you can attach yourself to the character if it's a good story, and many more. Edited April 2, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpingKentFlash Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Why do Rockstar have to explain anything? I think it would totally rock to have Tommy and CJ in some form. Who gives a hoot about different cities and universes. ChrisMathers3501 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) R* won't bring old characters back, so you may just forget about it. If character had physical form in the game then he's gone for good. Edited April 2, 2014 by Tycek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M0B5TA Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Wish they did. Would be cool to play as Claude. I wanna know what his voice sounds like. what if all this time he just didn't know English? bootswitdafur and coach_wargo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranklinDeRoosevelt Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Then how exactly would he understand anything people told him? And it's already been known that Claude is mute. Edited April 2, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 It's already known that he isn't. It was stated in the game that he just doesn't talk much (said by Maria on the Chatterbox) and he's man of few words (confirmed by R*). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach_wargo Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 In GTAO we're all Claude. MilezDawg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) In GTAO we're all Claude. except they can lip-sync to the player words unlike Claude Edited April 2, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond coach_wargo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles Flaggot 1 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Hey OP The thing with 3d era and their characters is they simply aren't immortal, this means that Tommy Vercetti would be an OLD man by now, but seeing as R* enjoy the 'killing off characters' trend, he could be dead as IV hints. I would love to have seen our old protags return but this can be impossible although it is possible The contradictions are everywhere though so the 'tease' is the frustrating bit even as of V where we see OG Loc's album on the floor...R* are a weirdish bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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