The Beta Topic

[ClaudX]

 

As the name suggests, this is the topic for all information regarding cut content and beta elements for Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories. All information has been collected by members of the forum, as without them, much of this information could not have been found. Enjoy and contribute, if you can. Titles and headers courtesy of @Graven.

The protagonist of the game went through many different changes, ranging from his clothing options to his facial appearance.

 

Victor's facial appearance was more similar to his appearance in Vice City, and he resembled his brother, Lance Vance, more than he does in the final game. Image 1

Victor's facial appearance, in another rendition, gave him less visible eyes. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

Victor originally had a tattoo on his right arm. Image 1 Image 2

The army fatigues originally read "USMC", meaning Victor would originally join the Marine Corps, and not the Army. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

The casuals were originally yellow. Image 1

Other characters in the game changed as well. For the most part, it was the facial appearances that changed with these characters.

Louise's hair was black, had more eye shadow, and appeared older. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image 4

Bryan Forbes originally had a mustache. Image 1

Louise wore her aerobics outfit in the mission "Shakedown". Image 1

 

There are weapons that were cut from the game, changed, or renamed. Some even remain in the game's files.

 

The landmine, a weapon that did not make the cut in previous titles, was once again removed. The model, texture, and HUD icon all remain in the game's files. It can be activated in game using a cheat device. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

Teargas, a weapon cut from previous titles only to appear in San Andreas, was cut again. Just like the landmine, the model, texture, and HUD icon remain in the files. It can also be activated with a cheat device. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

A cell phone was meant to appear, but was replaced by the pager. The texture, model, and even a HUD icon remain in the files. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

The MP5 was meant to appear, not the MP5K. Image 1

The camera was originally able to be found outside of missions. Image 1

Lance can be seen using a .357 in the mission "Caught as an Act", and not an Equalizer. It is possible that the .357 was meant to return from previous titles. Image 1

The Equalizer was originally named the ".357". Image 1

The Scorpion was originally named "Venom 9mm". Image 1

 

There are many changes to current vehicles, as well as cut transportation. The BradyGames guide muddied the waters with some beta information, as they managed to screw up their vehicles a bit.

An unnamed motorbike was cut. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image 4

The Vice City News Maverick was cut. It can be spawned in game with a cheat device. Image 1

The FBI Rancher was cut. It can be spawned in game with a cheat device. Image 1

A slide-door variant of the VCPD Maverick was cut. It can be spawned in game with a cheat device. Image 1

The GPX/Blista GPX was meant to return. Image 1 Image 2

A boat named the "Ambassador" was cut. It is featured in the BradyGames guide, but its picture was replaced with the Speeder. Image 1

The TopFun van was cut. It can be spawned in game with a cheat device. Image 1

The Cholo Sabre was originally blue and white. Image 1

The Armadillo originally had no rear door. Image 1 Image 2

The Bovver '64 originally had no roll cage. Image 1

A boat named the "Scarab" was cut. It is featured in the BradyGames guide, but the image was replaced with the Violater. Image 1

The Biplane was originally named "Pitts". Image 1

The Violater's windshield was shaped differently. Image 1

The Kuruma was cut. It could also be a leftover from Liberty City Stories.

KURUMA: Kuruma

The Dodo was cut. It could also be a leftover from Liberty City Stories.

DODO: Dodo

Two different Sabre Turbos were cut.

SABRETB: Sabre TurboSABRETU: Sabre Turbo

Currently under construction.

Edited August 5, 2016 by ClaudX

[WildBrick142]

Tear Gas and Landmine are in game and work perfectly. Land Mine's HUD Icon is slightly offset (see icon below, it's not centered) and Tear Gas' HUD Icon is in a dull orange color. Like in LCS, the Tear Gas can lag the game. Landmines explode whenever anything gets near it.



A bike was cut




Phone Pickup


Not sure if this was meant to appear or was a leftover but there is a map icon for Tooled Up. The icon is blank white square but in Map menu, it says Tooled Up.

Cubans could also own properties.

 

"Ambassador" boat was cut but it was accidentally replaced with image of Speeder in the official guide.

 

In game, there is also an unused, faster Speeder (The Fastest Boat/Cuban Jetmax in Vice City). There is no difference than normal Speeder other than performance. Maybe it was the Ambassador.

 

There is a VCN Maverick (unused) and a green slide door VCPD Maverick (also unused and when I tried it wouldn't fly)

 

FBI Rancher is unused. It can be spawned and is fully functional.

 

Top Fun was meant to appear but was cut.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gonna get myself a VCS iso and see what else I can dig up.

Edited March 29, 2014 by WildBrick142

[markusizr]

is there any beta screenshot which vic and brayn forbes chased by mendez brothers

[WildBrick142]

Got my hands on the files and now,


phone


property

These two icons also exist in VCS. There is no "radar_propertyR" though so it might be an LCS leftover.

There is an odd-job as Mall Security. Since this was found in PS2 version, and PS2 version is known to have more things than PSP, I am unsure if that mission is in final game.

Ambassador in-game name exists - this destroys my theory of fast Speeder being it.

A mission from Bryan Forbes was cut.

BRY_B01: Money for NothingBRY_B02: REMOVEDBRY_B03: Leap and BoundBRY_B04: The Bum Deal

Either this is a leftover from VC or Leo Teal was meant to appear with a mission. Could make sense because VCS is set before VC so Leo is still alive.

CH_LANC: Lance VanceCH_LEOT: Leo TealCH_LOUI: Louise Williams

Dodo possibly was in game or was just a leftover.

DODO: Dodo

Much like the Evidence

EVID: Evidence

Gonzalez had a mission before "Home's on the Range"

GON_C01: REMOVEDGON_C02: Home's on the RangeGON_C03: Purple HazeGON_C04: Farewell To Arms

Kuruma was cut (My favorite! )

KURUMA: Kuruma

Lance also had a removed mission.

LAN_B01: Jive DriveLAN_B02: The AuditionLAN_B03: REMOVEDLAN_B04: Caught as an ActLAN_B05: Snitch HitchLAN_B06: From Zero to Hero

Five Leo Teal missions were removed. This proves that Leo DID appear but was cut.

LEO_C01: REMOVEDLEO_C02: REMOVEDLEO_C03: REMOVEDLEO_C04: REMOVEDLEO_C05: REMOVED

Louise also had removed mission.

LOU_B01: Hose the HoesLOU_B02: Robbing the CradleLOU_B03: REMOVED

Armando and Diego Mendez also had removed mission - what the f*ck is with all these missions?

MEN_C01: The Mugshot LongshotMEN_C02: Hostile TakeoverMEN_C03: Unfriendly CompetitionMEN_C04: REMOVEDMEN_C05: High WireMEN_C06: Burning Bridges

Police Cars and VCPD Cruisers - not sure which are in game and which are not.

POLICAR: PolicePOLICEM: VCPD CruiserPOLICEV: VCPD Cruiser

Army, Security, Golfers and Unmberto's Guys (Cubans) had Empire Properties - what.

PR_GAN1: Umberto's GuysPR_GAN2: CholosPR_GAN3: SharksPR_GAN4: ArmyPR_GAN5: SecurityPR_GAN6: BikersPR_GAN7: VancePR_GAN8: GolferPR_GAN9: VancePR_GAN10: Marty's

Rancher was cut

RANCHER: Rancher

Two different Sabre Turbos. And no, it isn't Cholo Sabre. (Cholo Sabre has "CHOLO" as the internal name)

SABRETB: Sabre TurboSABRETU: Sabre Turbo

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In total, ten missions were cut.




Tear Gas icon

 

Cellphone had a HUD icon (Texture273.chk)

Edited March 29, 2014 by WildBrick142

[Ash_735]

I can help out here with what we've found (mainly Silent) in the games code:

 

- In the first mission, there was supposed to be a Mini Game where Vic had to Destroy the attacking boats (there's a picture of this in the Brady Guide to) before the boat you're in catches fire. In the final game this part is skipped to a short cutscene of Vic firing the M4 at the boats and it catching fire right away.

 

- There are co-ords leftover for Leo Teal's mission start marker, and it leads to this place, meaning this (oddly one of the few) detailed area on the East Island would have been where Leo Teal was working in 1984...

 

- Out of all the closed down "Tooled Ups" only this one maybe had plans to be an Ammu-Nation as there are leftover co-ords in the game marking this shop as an Ammu-Nation...

 

I'll see what else we dug up in those files.

 

edit: OH YEAH, there's MANY, MANY, MANY unused audio from characters during specific missions, especially from Phil who has a whole unheard rambling part which was supposed to play during "Boomshine Blowout".

Edited March 30, 2014 by Ash_735

[Silent]

- Out of all the closed down "Tooled Ups" only this one maybe had plans to be an Ammu-Nation as there are leftover co-ords in the game marking this shop as an Ammu-Nation...

Actually this place has an unique Tooled Up script, which is unused. They deffo planned them at some point.

[markusizr]

i think tooled up planned to be or not

[ClaudX]

@Ash_735

Can you get the picture from the BradyGames guide for the beta Soldier mission?

 

Also, thanks for the information guys.

Edited March 30, 2014 by ssbawesome

[Ash_735]

@Ash_735

Can you get the picture from the BradyGames guide for the beta Soldier mission?

 

Also, thanks for the information guys.

We'll go one step further *summons Silent*

[markusizr]

what about beta missons

[Ash_735]

what about beta missons

Nothing left behind on those sadly, trust us, we've looked all over for those. Just a few alts for current missions and unfinished stuff that just breaks the game.

[lazloisdavrock]

a little off topic but this game is still the GOAT of the series. IMO. so damned good.

Edited March 31, 2014 by lazloisdavrock

[Hmmm nice bike]

Any explanation as to why the planes in the PSP version are enterable (but uncontrollable)?

 

He doesn't just fall in, he'll enter just from pressing triangle like any other vehicle, the camera will stay with the plane as if you had control of it, and you can even listen to radio stations. This was also patched on the PS2 version. Could it be leftover code from when they may have intended these planes to be flyable at one point?

 

a little off topic but this game is still the GOAT of the series. IMO. so damned good.

I think Rockstar is fond of VCS, too, there's quite a few references to it in GTA V (Gordon Moorehead and Jock Cranley are two I can think of off the top of my head).

[Gummy]

The casual outfit has been changed twice actually, there's a lighter blue version (seen in trailer 1)

 

 

(too big so I put it in a spoiler, and I can't separate the images, sorry)

 

And there is some other fella that we got to kill in the final mission

 

 

 

look at 0:43, there are 3 guys on the ground instead of 2.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Prince Gumball

[markusizr]

and on trailer seen on 0:43 lance on orginal clothes than final version

[Jinx.]

Coastguard Maverick is cut again. Biplane was named different (I forgot its name) . Top Fun was cut again. If you spawn it the game will crash.

Edited March 31, 2014 by darthvader20011

[PerfectBlade]

Coastguard Maverick is cut again. Biplane was named different (I forgot its name) . Top Fun was cut again. If you spawn it the game will crash.

and there is a helicopter armadillo...i know one of them is in a mission..but there is another cut model of armadillo..from what i think.

[Jinx.]

 

 

Coastguard Maverick is cut again. Biplane was named different (I forgot its name) . Top Fun was cut again. If you spawn it the game will crash.

and there is a helicopter armadillo...i know one of them is in a mission..but there is another cut model of armadillo..from what i think. Nope, both are spawning. The Air Ambulance spawns in the hospital from Downtown and in the hospital from Ocean Beach, both after From Zero To Hero

[Ash_735]

Man have I got a good scoop for you guys, so I was using the Brady Guide to take a picture of that mission part as requested (Silent couldn't get it to activate properly in the game ) and I decided to look through some other things...

 

OK, so first up, the extended part of "Soldier";

 

As shown here, the two females were originally supposed to jump off the boat and also be killed by the gunmen:

 

Mission Markers and Interior Markers were originally Yellow (leftover from LCS);

 

Starfish Island was originally supposed to be locked off after "Conduct Unbecoming":

 

The Beachcomber Hotel originally had White Neons:

 

There was supposed to be an extended cutscene after "Boomshine Blowout" even a screencap from it:

 

A clearer look at BETA Louise:

[Jinx.]

I think the Cellphone icon is a leftover from LCS, as in game the cellphone is similar to VC.

[Ash_735]

BETA Empire UI:

 

This build of the game was before Ionic:

 

More LCS leftovers:

 

Another shot of Louise:

[Gummy]

Oh yeah the Green, sliding doors Police Maverick is actually flyable if you can push one to a garage, close it and open it again.

[Jinx.]

It has the same paintjob as GTA Vice City's Police Maverick

[markusizr]

Coastguard Maverick is cut again. Biplane was named different (I forgot its name) . Top Fun was cut again. If you spawn it the game will crash.

Biplane was called on beta "Pitts

[Jinx.]

Thanks!

[ClaudX]

Thanks for the information guys! I would've never gotten some of it without your help. Say, I read that the Bradygames guide said that the Biplane was called "Pitts". Any chance of getting a scan of that? Thanks in advance! I wonder when Bradygames played the game. With that information, we can know a range of when certain elements were cut.

 

I heard someone say about Bryan and Vic being chased by the Mendez Cartel. Would this be the image by any chance?

Vic is driving the car and I think that's Bryan behind him. It's the second car by the way, not the one in front.

Edited April 1, 2014 by ssbawesome

[markusizr]

yes i asked the picture where vic and bryan forbes chased by mendez brothers

Edited April 1, 2014 by markusizr

[gamerzworld]

Yuck that beta Vic image is old. Back in 2012 I fixed it up thanks to some texture tools that were released since I did that "hack". Use images from here instead.

[GTAKid667]

Yuck that beta Vic image is old. Back in 2012 I fixed it up thanks to some texture tools that were released since I did that "hack". Use images from here instead.

I know you are trying to help, but please do not advertise your own sites on this forum.

 

Instead, you should have posted the images and not the link to the site containing them.

 

Do not do this again in future.

[gamerzworld]

 

Yuck that beta Vic image is old. Back in 2012 I fixed it up thanks to some texture tools that were released since I did that "hack". Use images from here instead.

I know you are trying to help, but please do not advertise your own sites on this forum.

 

Instead, you should have posted the images and not the link to the site containing them.

 

Do not do this again in future.

 

April fools? Advertising? Seriously? I posted a link to a modification I made that strongly related to the topic at hand that happened to be posted on my own website as I was the one who created the modification. It's not like I posted "HEY EVERYONE CHECK OUT MY SITE". Hell, look at my post history if you seriously think I was trying to advertise my website. If you really believe what I did was "advertising", you might want to remove Nick's TXDf*cker in the mobile modding topics as all of his download links go to his own website or many other modders that also link to their own websites when posting mods.

Edited April 1, 2014 by gamerzworld