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ClaudX

The Beta Topic

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ClaudX

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Here you will find a collection and discussion of beta elements from Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories. Many aspects of the games went through change, ranging from the protagonist to the vehicles found inside the game.

 

A great deal of thanks goes to the members of this community for being continuously being involved in this hunt. Much of this information was found and analyzed by them and this thread would not exist without their efforts.

Headers courtesy of @Graven.

 

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Radar icon for a cut mission for Phil Cassidy, or the early icon for his gun shop. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

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An unused phone icon for either Salvatore's phone missions or for cut assassination missions. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

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Unused icons for properties, meaning that at one point the player could purchase properties. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

ST_ASSI:Assasination contracts complete

A string of text showing that assassination contracts were to return from Vice City.

TURTXT:Mobile Massacre!

A string of text, possibly from a cut RC mission.

TURPASS:~W~Massacre Passed! 

A string of text showing something called "Massacres", although it could be a different name for Rampages, it could've been something entirely different.

AEROPL: Aeroplane

There is a string of text for entering a plane, meaning that planes were once flyable and included in-game. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

BHLPOS: Best helicopter race positionFSTHRT: Fastest helicopter race time

Text strings show that there were originally flyable helicopters, along with helicopter races. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

FTFRENZ: Firetruck Frenzy

A string showing a cut feature, Firetruck Frenzy. Possibly a cut sidejob or some type of Rampage. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

FEC_CRO: Crouch

A text string revealing that you could originally crouch. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

PANCAK: PANCAKED!

Possibly an alternate "Wasted" for when the player got ran over. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

SOAKED: SOAKED!

Possibly another alternate "Wasted", but for when the player drowned. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

FEST_LF: Longest flight in Dodo

A string showing that the Dodo was once flyable. (Contributed by WildBrick142)

 

 

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Excuse the mess. Under Construction.

Edited by ClaudX

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markusizr

where was some beta missons like for phil cassidy i think and i think on you can buy houses but i am not sure :/ cos i didnt play lcs since 2 years ago

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WildBrick142

Some icons found in game.dtz

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radar_phil

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phone

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property

What's making me wonder is that they are all LCS style so that means that properties were planned at some point, Phil had a mission (or was the original icon for his Fully Cocked Gun Shop) and the phone was either original Sal icon (for Staunton Phone Booth missions) or it was the icon for Mobile Massacre (see below)


I've also lurked through american.gxt ENGLISH.gxt and found some interesting stuff like massacres, beta cars, etc. Will post it a bit later.

MPSURV

SAL01: ~w~Maria, I'm going up to the hospital to get 'you-know-what' fixed.SAL02: ~w~When I get out, the pork stallion will be galloping just like it used to...SAL03: ~w~You just stay out of trouble while I'm in 'cause there's gonna be wise-guys dying to take over.SAL03A: ~w~Literally!SAL04: ~w~PS: Get ready to saddle up when I get out, baby!SAL05: ~w~PPS: ...Don't leave this note just lying around!

Unknown letter - I never heard or saw it in game

MAIN

AEROPL: Aeroplane

You can't fly planes so why is there a GXT string for entering the plane?

A_TALK1: ~w~I got all your home defense needs.A_TALK2: ~w~You want a license too?A_TALK3: ~w~I don't need to see any I.D. you look trustworthy.A_TALK4: ~w~You're welcome to try out the range round the back.

Never heard this in Ammu-Nation.

BARRACK: Barracks OLBARRCKS: Barracks OL

Unsure about this but there is only one Barracks OL as far as I know

BHLPOS: Best helicopter race positionFSTHRT: Fastest helicopter race time

No need to explain. Maybe that's why LCS has helicopters (and Dodo) made in LCS style and graphics?

BULL: Bullion

The infamous "Bullion" car.

Read description

A bunch of Debug Menu model viewer. Not really beta but worth sharing. (there are also peds)

CYCLONE: Cyclone GT

Cyclone GT car.

ESPIRIT: V8 Ghost

Could that be the beta name?

EVID: Evidence

Mysterious Evidence car. Either that or a random prop that got mistaken as a vehicle.

FEC_CRO: Crouch

Crouching?

FEF_LA1: What you talking about willis?FEF_LA2: Choose your preferred parlanceFEF_SA1: Keep your place in the pile!FEF_SA2: Save and load your gamesFEF_ST1: Who's the bad man?FEF_ST2: How much havoc have you caused

No idea whatsoever.

FEH_MP: MULTIPLAYER

Nothing unusual but I found this in PS2 version and there is no MP IIRC. Could be just PSP leftover but gonna drop this anyway.

FORELLI: Forelli ExSess

Nothing beta about this but just posting that people think that it's called "Forelli Exsess" but really it is "Forelli ExSess".

FTFRENZ: Firetruck Frenzy

Cut mission/odd job/rampage/massacre?

GHOST: Ghost

Ghost (missing) boat in case you're wondering (It exist in game and is functional. A bit glitched and you can't turn IIRC).

GORLEV: Gore Level

No idea.

HELI: Helicopter

Also known as tiny invisible heli. It's the Police Maverick that chases at 3 stars. Invisible when spawned, visible when taken to Pay 'n Spray but with no rotors or tail (More)

HELPE31: ~w~New outfits become available to the player during the game, and must be collected from Mr. Benz.

NEVER saw, heard or did that in the game.

HJBAD: ~w~Terrible landing - you almost won $~1~!

Never saw this type of Insane Stunt Bonus.

HM1_1: ~g~Ice 20 Purple Nines in 2 minutes 30 seconds.HM2_1: Use the RC buggies to destroy the armored cars. Press~h~ ~k~ ~VEWEP~ ~w~to detonate.HM2_1A: Use the RC buggies to destroy the armored cars. Press~h~ ~k~ ~VEWEP~ ~w~to detonate.HM2_2: ~r~You failed to destroy all the armored cars!HM2_6: ~g~Armored Car destroyed!

My money's on GTA III leftovers

KE_KILF: Kill Frenzy

wat

MCLARN: Lancer MF1

Lancer MF1 cut car

MINI: Tommy

Tommy cut car.

MMRAIN: Mm rain fallen

I don't know and I can't explain this.

PANCAK: PANCAKED!

Death message when ran over? Toni was a chef? We'll never know.

PANLANT: Panlantic

Panlantic van we saw in III and never saw in LCS. It's in game, fully functional but doesn't spawn anywhere at all.

SKYLINE: Skoiloine

Skoiloine cut car

SOAKED: SOAKED!

Death message when drowning? Toni could participate in water gun fights? We'll never know.

ST_ASSI: Assassination contracts completed

Assasinations?

SUBARU: Impreza WRX

A car that must have been cut very early.

SUPRA: Supra

Like above. Or just Jester.

TURPASS: ~w~Massacre Passed!TURTXT: Mobile Massacre!

Massacres that I was talking about.

 

 

And that's all. It was in PS2 "ENGLISH.gxt". Didn't check PSP... yet.

FEST_LF: Longest flight in Dodo

You could fly a Dodo?

DED_DED: Deadbeats wastedDED_HOK: Hookers wasted

Separate Stats for deadbeats and hookers?

CAR_39: Buggy

A cut vehcle from III. Could this have been cut from LCS as well or is just a leftover?

 

 

This are the things I found in PSP version but since PSP and PS2 have the same ENGLISH.gxt, I'm sure these things I have just missed.

 

 

Unknown News Reports

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Roger C. Hole had a suit texture and model. It is never seen in game.

 

 

Ruger Texture

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By the way, the Tear Gas is fully functional but causes the game to lag when smoke comes out.

Edited by WildBrick142

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markusizr

i think the mobile massacre was based on rampages or to kill some mobs

Edited by markusizr

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ClaudX

@WildBrick142

Is this the model of R.C. Hole in the suit?

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Edited by ssbawesome

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WildBrick142

Yup, that's him.

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markusizr

from where you find a picture

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Gummy 

A_TALK1: ~w~I got all your home defense needs.
A_TALK2: ~w~You want a license too?
A_TALK3: ~w~I don't need to see any I.D. you look trustworthy.
A_TALK4: ~w~You're welcome to try out the range round the back.

 

These are leftovers from GTA III, when you enter the Ammunation in III, the shopkeeper will say these, but I don't think he does on LCS, and I don't think there were subtitles for these in III too.

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markusizr

on lcs planned to be a irlish mafia

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XEPOMAHT007

BETA Tony (imported by MAJEST1C_R3)

 

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Kalvin

Huh, is that just a tweaked/re-textured Tommy?

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XEPOMAHT007

Huh, is that just a tweaked/re-textured Tommy?

No. Original beta model.

 

One:

 

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Two:

 

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Vannimon

I saw in the american.gxt a line saying

 

SPLAT!

 

So, it's possible this is another line for getting run over like the

 

PANCAKED!

one.

Edited by gta3masta5000

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Tycek

On the last picture Toni looks like Ash Williams. He even has his boomstick.

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Gummy 

Glad they decided to change Toni and Sal.

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Jinx.

Does there were Yardies in Portland in BETA? The screen that XEPO posted makes me curious:

 

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Wasn't that Yardie Lobo in back of Toni? It seems that he didn't killed JD here (It's Luigi's Sex Club after) and it changes before opening the second island. So this proves that Yardies were in Beta, like in current GTA Advance.

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markusizr

yes that car. i think :/ but i am not sure

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Gummy 

Wait, Paulie's Revue Bar sign changes to Luigi's sec club after we killed JD/ going to the second island? I've never realized that...

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gamerzworld

A few years ago I acquired a booklet containing a number of magazine scans that Rockstar sent out to GameStop managers promoting LCS. Perhaps they can be of some use? I still have the original booklet somewhere at my house -- if anyone finds something interesting or just wants me to get a better scan let me know.

 

GTALCS Press Clippings (LQ - 8MB)

GTALCS Press Clippings (HQ - 67MB)

Edited by gamerzworld

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ClaudX

A few years ago I acquired a booklet containing a number of magazine scans that Rockstar sent out to GameStop managers promoting LCS. Perhaps they can be of some use? I still have the original booklet somewhere at my house -- if anyone finds something interesting or just wants me to get a better scan let me know.

 

GTALCS Press Clippings (LQ - 8MB)

GTALCS Press Clippings (HQ - 67MB)

Taxi rides in SA? Bull. IIRC, there isn't the start over taxi ride in SA like there is in VC. It would've been nice in LCS, however. (It wasn't in LCS was it?) It would've given a more 'Big City' (New York) feel to it.

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Vannimon

 

 

A few years ago I acquired a booklet containing a number of magazine scans that Rockstar sent out to GameStop managers promoting LCS. Perhaps they can be of some use? I still have the original booklet somewhere at my house -- if anyone finds something interesting or just wants me to get a better scan let me know.

 

GTALCS Press Clippings (LQ - 8MB)

GTALCS Press Clippings (HQ - 67MB)

Taxi rides in SA? Bull. IIRC, there isn't the start over taxi ride in SA like there is in VC. It would've been nice in LCS, however. (It wasn't in LCS was it?) It would've given a more 'Big City' (New York) feel to it.Taxi rides were in LCS. But onto my main point: there's a stunt ramp behind Marco's Bistro, giving the insinuation that you were originally intended to get back there. Must have been scrapped early cuz its empty besides that.

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ClaudX

 

 

A few years ago I acquired a booklet containing a number of magazine scans that Rockstar sent out to GameStop managers promoting LCS. Perhaps they can be of some use? I still have the original booklet somewhere at my house -- if anyone finds something interesting or just wants me to get a better scan let me know.

 

GTALCS Press Clippings (LQ - 8MB)

GTALCS Press Clippings (HQ - 67MB)

Taxi rides in SA? Bull. IIRC, there isn't the start over taxi ride in SA like there is in VC. It would've been nice in LCS, however. (It wasn't in LCS was it?) It would've given a more 'Big City' (New York) feel to it.
Taxi rides were in LCS. But onto my main point: there's a stunt ramp behind Marco's Bistro, giving the insinuation that you were originally intended to get back there. Must have been scrapped early cuz its empty besides that.

 

Really? I guess I never noticed the taxi because I never died in missions.

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Gummy 

Yes, according to GTA Wiki, there was a deleted mission for Leon that involves the Yardies or some sh*t.

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markusizr

What about icon R not L :/

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zmudziak32

Leon McAffRey - R is from his Last Name.

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Sir-Ivan

Whaaaaat

Crouching and buy properties :OO :(

 

I noticed that most of the animation is from VC hehe xD

 

By the way, nice topic!

Edited by iFres0x

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Gummy 

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Beta PCJ-600 was based on the Vice City version.

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WildBrick142

Trees were different

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"Lionel" was originally black

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Sicilians drive light blue/grayish Stingers, not yellow as on this pre-release screenshot

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This never happens. Morgue Party Resurrection comes to my mind but he was wearing hobo clothes, not suit.

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This is taken during Hot Wheels mission (Hint: Arrow). How the hell did Toni get M4 at that point? Did R* cheat or glitch for screenshots?

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Maria Mission. Toni is wearing "Wiseguy" outfit. Wiseguy is unlocked after "Shoot The Messenger" all the way over at Staunton Island.

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Once again, Wiseguy outfit in begginning of the game. And like, before completing Vincenzo Missions.

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Loooots of camera film.

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'Lionel' before even unlocking Staunton Island

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Again, Wiseguy.

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Never saw this ped

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No such paintjobs (Manana, Yankee) and Forelli Exsess is black for some reason.

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No such painjob on Stinger, the bike is very early version copy-pasted from VC

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Darth_Starkiller

These Massacres were likely similar to the GTA III's Diablo Destruction/Mafia Massacre/Casino Calamity/Rumpo Rampage, and the one in LSC where you kill triads with the RC car. And it seems that the Dodo was going to be like GTA III. Gore level is likely similar to GTA III, where in PC version you could blow off legs and arms (very satisfying explosions). Kill Frenzies were the GTA 2 Rampages, and considering how old it is, likely a leftover of a leftover of III. And there are some clothes that need to be collected from Mr. Benz in some missions (I think Tuxedo and Lionel are some examples). However, it seems that in the beta, instead of finishing missions and immediately having the clothes delivered to your safehouse, you would have to unlock them by going to Mr. Benz.

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