Is Trevor religious?

[universetwisters]

I know religion doesn't really play much into GTA 5, but I noticed some things about Trevor:

*One of Trevor's tattoos on his arm features a cross that says RIP Michael
*Trevor calls Franklin and Michael "Judases" in one of the endings. Judas was one of the dudes who killed Jesus, I think. Either that or sold him out,

And there's more but I can't think of them as of now. Did anybody else catch these aswell?

[Strength]

I would say sure. When you turn on Trevor's special ability you can sometimes hear him say ˝God, give me the strength˝. Also something along this lines ˝Holly Mother of Joseph˝ (I am not 100% sure about this one, but he definitely say's Holly Mother).

Edited March 26, 2014 by Strength

[Detective Phelps]

Well, he smokes meth and gets drunk a lot!

But when he's sober, he is a bit religious, as seen in some of his dialogue.

 

So, I guess he's religious at times, but it depends on the situation.

[RoadRunner71]

Sure he is.

 

[InfernoV]

Yeah he reverts to islam after the storyline is over!

 

He is now a very dedicated muslim!

[THE_TREVALEV]

Hopefully not.

[~Tiger~]

I would say so, yes.

 

Trevor's character is quite complex. He will murder a person without guilt yet his fury at Michaels deception was based on ethics rather than financial loss.

 

His mother was possibly a 'bible thumper ' and no doubt threatened him with the usual hell fire and torment if he didn't behave.

 

Often Trevor will exclaim "Good Lord above" with a kind of evangelist voice, suggesting that he picked up the expression in church service or from a preacher.

[Tikhung]

I would say so, yes.

 

Trevor's character is quite complex. He will murder a person without guilt yet his fury at Michaels deception was based on ethics rather than financial loss.

 

His mother was possibly a 'bible thumper ' and no doubt threatened him with the usual hell fire and torment if he didn't behave.

 

Often Trevor will exclaim "Good Lord above" with a kind of evangelist voice, suggesting that he picked up the expression in church service or from a preacher.

 

Trevor's character is very deep. I'd say even more than Niko Bellic IMO.

 

This is his theme song:

 

 

Edited March 26, 2014 by tikhung01

[Xerukal]

He very well could be. It wouldn't be surprising. His character seems to be built around a certain way, where people could easily be fooled into thinking that his sentimentality and strong sense of morality are just a case of inconsistent writing, and that all he's "supposed" to be is a generic, violent psychopath.

 

He has these shattered fragments of a normal, calm person, but they're all just buried under years upon years of many different kinds of emotional and mental torment. Like his abandonment issues. First his parents, then his best friend.

 

I guess he's a victim of society, in a way. This does not justify his actions. And It doesn't need to. But it makes him that much more complex and believable.

 

Also, I'd say his theme above represents his mental torment very accurately. Very Max Payne-like, isn't it? It's clear that the writer(s) knew their character went much deeper than a few rampages every now and then.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Xerukal

[Jvaz615]

What annoys me most about people bashing the Trevor character is that they are too shallow to see beyond "lolololololol crazy meth head in underwear killer psycho omgwtf so stupid". He's a very complex character with a lot of layers that people would maybe see if they just tried. Some of the random hang out conversations are very telling with Trevor

[El Zodape]

Judging by his Michael tatoo, yep. Also when he tells M that if they die during The Big One, they will both go to hell and he will torment him for all eternity.

 

Now, how much time we have until the Anti-Trevor Brigade reports in?

[TheDeaconBosco]

He very well could be. It wouldn't be surprising. His character seems to be built around a certain way, where people could easily be fooled into thinking that his sentimentality and strong sense of morality are just a case of inconsistent writing, and that all he's "supposed" to be is a generic, violent psychopath.

 

He has these shattered fragments of a normal, calm person, but they're all just buried under years upon years of many different kinds of emotional and mental torment. Like his abandonment issues. First his parents, then his best friend.

 

I guess he's a victim of society, in a way. This does not justify his actions. And It doesn't need to.

 

But it makes him that much more complex and believable.

 

Also, I'd say his theme above represents his mental torment very accurately. Very Max Payne-like, isn't it? It's clear that the writer(s) knew their character went much deeper than a few rampages every now and then.

 

One of Trevor's most memorable tirades was during a friend activity with Franklin in which he says, and I quote :

 

"I lived in 20 homes, 12 families, 5 pensions, 3 boarding schools and lived with a wilted flower of a mother, I've tasted every mortal sin and bragged about it, I've served my country, your country and myself without a shred of a regret, and you want to tell me that, you had a hard time with life. If you're gonna pick anything from me, kid, is that self pity is for the weak..."

 

Excuse me if the above citation isn't quite right, it happened a long time ago, and I'm not gonna start a new game just for word for word accuracy.

 

Clearly his constant state of belligerence is not only caused by his mental trauma alone but by how he dealt with it by simply trying to act like it didn't actually happen and ignoring the implications of it, by the reasoning that he's more of a man for doing so. What makes it even more tragic is Trevor's so honest with life that he's actually quite self-righteous and judgmental meaning that he might never confide these feelings to most people, he does try when drunk with Michael and Franklin but they brush him aside actually.

[UtterTehSEAL]

Trevor is the type of guy to laugh at you for going to church but he'd rape and burn you alive if you said "Hail Satan!"

[universetwisters]

 

He very well could be. It wouldn't be surprising. His character seems to be built around a certain way, where people could easily be fooled into thinking that his sentimentality and strong sense of morality are just a case of inconsistent writing, and that all he's "supposed" to be is a generic, violent psychopath.

 

He has these shattered fragments of a normal, calm person, but they're all just buried under years upon years of many different kinds of emotional and mental torment. Like his abandonment issues. First his parents, then his best friend.

 

I guess he's a victim of society, in a way. This does not justify his actions. And It doesn't need to.

 

But it makes him that much more complex and believable.

 

Also, I'd say his theme above represents his mental torment very accurately. Very Max Payne-like, isn't it? It's clear that the writer(s) knew their character went much deeper than a few rampages every now and then.

 

One of Trevor's most memorable tirades was during a friend activity with Franklin in which he says, and I quote :

 

"I lived in 20 homes, 12 families, 5 pensions, 3 boarding schools and lived with a wilted flower of a mother, I've tasted every mortal sin and bragged about it, I've served my country, your country and myself without a shred of a regret, and you want to tell me that, you had a hard time with life. If you're gonna pick anything from me, kid, is that self pity is for the weak..."

 

Excuse me if the above citation isn't quite right, it happened a long time ago, and I'm not gonna start a new game just for word for word accuracy.

 

Clearly his constant state of belligerence is not only caused by his mental trauma alone but by how he dealt with it by simply trying to act like it didn't actually happen and ignoring the implications of it, by the reasoning that he's more of a man for doing so. What makes it even more tragic is Trevor's so honest with life that he's actually quite self-righteous and judgmental meaning that he might never confide these feelings to most people, he does try when drunk with Michael and Franklin but they brush him aside actually.

 

 

On that note, didn't Trevor tell one of the bounty targets that his father left him at a shopping mall, to which he burned down?

[OneManCrimeWave]

With all of these statements made, I got to add this one. When you hang out with Michael after completing The Third Way, Trevor and Michael both agree that Brad was a dick, but Trevor goes on to say something like, Yes, he was. Bless him.

 

Also, does anyone else believe Michael and Franklin might have some religion inside them. I'm asking this because during the mission Marriage Counseling, after Michael pulls down the hillside mansion, he may say this line to Franklin, Yeah, well that's a foolish man who builds his house on sand, baby! And Franklin, who knows that it's a bible quote, says, I don't think my boy Matthew was thinking trucks when he wrote that sh*t.

 

 

[Ben73]

 

 

He very well could be. It wouldn't be surprising. His character seems to be built around a certain way, where people could easily be fooled into thinking that his sentimentality and strong sense of morality are just a case of inconsistent writing, and that all he's "supposed" to be is a generic, violent psychopath.

 

He has these shattered fragments of a normal, calm person, but they're all just buried under years upon years of many different kinds of emotional and mental torment. Like his abandonment issues. First his parents, then his best friend.

 

I guess he's a victim of society, in a way. This does not justify his actions. And It doesn't need to.

 

But it makes him that much more complex and believable.

 

Also, I'd say his theme above represents his mental torment very accurately. Very Max Payne-like, isn't it? It's clear that the writer(s) knew their character went much deeper than a few rampages every now and then.

 

One of Trevor's most memorable tirades was during a friend activity with Franklin in which he says, and I quote :

 

"I lived in 20 homes, 12 families, 5 pensions, 3 boarding schools and lived with a wilted flower of a mother, I've tasted every mortal sin and bragged about it, I've served my country, your country and myself without a shred of a regret, and you want to tell me that, you had a hard time with life. If you're gonna pick anything from me, kid, is that self pity is for the weak..."

 

Excuse me if the above citation isn't quite right, it happened a long time ago, and I'm not gonna start a new game just for word for word accuracy.

 

Clearly his constant state of belligerence is not only caused by his mental trauma alone but by how he dealt with it by simply trying to act like it didn't actually happen and ignoring the implications of it, by the reasoning that he's more of a man for doing so. What makes it even more tragic is Trevor's so honest with life that he's actually quite self-righteous and judgmental meaning that he might never confide these feelings to most people, he does try when drunk with Michael and Franklin but they brush him aside actually.

 

 

On that note, didn't Trevor tell one of the bounty targets that his father left him at a shopping mall, to which he burned down?

 

Sounds very familiar. Heard him say it the other day. But I haven't done the bounty missions on my current save.

[ViceCityStalker]

His religion is being a drug addict....I`m very proud of him.

[mastershake616]

Religious criminals really aren't that uncommon.

 

It's hypocrisy as its finest. Can't expect much more from a psychopath.

 

That said, Trevor probably isn't religious. "R.I.P." is something that isn't exclusive to people of faith. For some, maybe even Trevor, it's nothing more than "I'm sad and sorry that you're dead."

 

As for "JUDAS!!," we're not talking about a guy who applies his faithful teachings to his unfaithful friends, speaking as a morally superior zealot who gets to "point fingers;" we're talking about a guy who is so far past border-line sanity that anyone not on his own twisted sense of morality is the universally worst example of a traitor.

 

If you pick ending "A," he burns in hell, anyway.

 

I would say so, yes.

 

Trevor's character is quite complex. He will murder a person without guilt yet his fury at Michaels deception was based on ethics rather than financial loss.

 

His mother was possibly a 'bible thumper ' and no doubt threatened him with the usual hell fire and torment if he didn't behave.

 

Often Trevor will exclaim "Good Lord above" with a kind of evangelist voice, suggesting that he picked up the expression in church service or from a preacher.

 

Trevor's character is very deep. I'd say even more than Niko Bellic IMO.

 

This is his theme song:

 

 

 

 

Any post that includes any cut of the score gets a "like" from my end.

[restlessmind]

Yeah, No, whatever. The underlying premise in Christianity is acceptance of your sins will get you into heaven, or whatever you want to call it. It's a good fit with someone with a mindset/history as Trevor, he seems to have a troubled mind and finding some higher cause would probably alleviate some of that anxiety.

 

Not to mention the influence of religion in prison, pretty sure Trevor's been in the lockup a few times.

 

Most likely the religious references were intentionally more obvious with Trevor, though it seemed there were numerous other references throughout the story for all characters as mentioned by others.

 

"Hypocrisy at it's finest"? Nah I think it's a good match. Religion has been used as a crutch by criminals since the day it was invented. Just look at the massacres, war crimes, mafia, poorer countries where people commit crimes throughout the week and repent on Sundays. You could almost say that religion exists purely to offset the effects of society's wrongdoings.

[LancerG2]

No. But he is an anti-Semitic piece of sh*t. If you don't know when you've got your head up your ass.

[bensons]

He is a murderer, of course he ins't religious.

 

You guys are as bad as the dudes on death row who think they found God and will be forgiven ROFL!

 

Lets make a checklist for Trevor here:

 

Murder- yep

Theft - yep

Taking the lords name in vain - yep

Wrath - yep

Greed -yep

Lust - yep

Pride - yep

Sloth - yep

[no_snacks]

This is starting to get interesting.

[CJ killed Ryder]

I know religion doesn't really play much into GTA 5, but I noticed some things about Trevor:

 

*One of Trevor's tattoos on his arm features a cross that says RIP Michael

*Trevor calls Franklin and Michael "Judases" in one of the endings. Judas was one of the dudes who killed Jesus, I think. Either that or sold him out,

And there's more but I can't think of them as of now. Did anybody else catch these aswell?

He has sex before marriage, so I doubt it.

[universetwisters]

No. But he is an anti-Semitic piece of sh*t. If you don't know when you've got your head up your ass.

 

That logic. Would Johnny be an "anti-Semetic piece of sh*t" just because he killed some Jewish mobsters in that museum level?

 

 

The underlying premise in Christianity is acceptance of your sins will get you into heaven, or whatever you want to call it.

 

I thought you got into heaven or whatever joyous place you imagine by not doing sins in the first place?

[McGyver55]

A more important question than the OP, is did Trevor really defile Mr Strawberry Jam (the friggin' teddy bear)?

 

I like reading these forums sometimes... makes me feel smarter.

[DrAnomalous]

That's weird I thought that by now this thread would of erupted into a full on 30+ page war between freshman atheists and christfags.

[Xerukal]

That's weird I thought that by now this thread would of erupted into a full on 30+ page war between freshman atheists and christfags.

It's best not to attempt to fuel said war by being so very... "creative" with your labels.

Edited March 27, 2014 by Xerukal

[Alec Skorpio]

I didn't realize having a cross on your arm and using the term "judas" made you religious, but sure, he could be I guess.

[mr quick]

I did not realize one could only name gods one believed in. from now on I shall only exclaim "oh my ___"

[bootswitdafur]

Murderers can totally be religous. Morality is different than religon, they don't require eachother to exist.

Edited March 27, 2014 by bootswitdafur