¿Most overrated car in your opinion?

[Man-Django]

Adder unless you like imitating being on a ice-rink

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

 

Lol at the guy that thinks the Sultan is faster than the Exemplar

 

 

Ya..lol @ the guy thats right. Keep laughing, your free to believe your own bullsh*t.

 

But the fact of the matter is the Sultan can out drive every single 4 door in the game. Which means, its faster.

 

Exemplar was tested by Broughy at 1:02 on cutting coroners, Sultan got 1:05...its faster. 3 seconds is a huge gap.

 

 

No traffic, no racers, using a stock version.. Besides, time trials don't matter.

 

So, youre comparing sultan with independent variables and calling is faster...those variables can't be counted when it comes to comparing because it doesnt give a fair 1 to 1 comparison because its never the same.

 

Time trials are the only true way to determine whats truly faster, vs whats faster in certain situations that can never be replicated.

 

 

1. Hes using a stock version.

 

2. Time trails are not real races.

 

 

 

Hence it doesn't matter.. If you wanna take some guys word driving around in a 'stock' version, driving the same line around the same track track with no traffic/racers what so ever, thats your choice.

 

Hey.. Sultan stock version sucks anyways. So i agree. Stock sultans are slower.

So now time trials don't matter.

 

NOTHING matters to you unless it's in favor of the Sultan. Ermac's video sums you up perfectly. Stubborn jackass who can't admit he's wrong because he doesn't want to be wrong. Everyone is saying the Exemplar is better yet you continue to lie to yourself.

 

 

Id rather be stubborn if im right.

 

Stats are wack.. That video is wack.

 

How about you just deal with it instead of complaining about it..

 

Besides that video summed you and this forum up.. Not me..

Edited March 27, 2014 by Vooodu

[Bus Rider 1]

Really voodu, you're still continuing this pointless argument?

I thought you already admitted that the Sultan isn't better than the Exemplar.

I guess you were bored and wanted to bring this thread up again. Oh well, waste your time.

Whatever gets you more posts.

[Mattyp1514]

 

 

 

 

 

Lol at the guy that thinks the Sultan is faster than the Exemplar

 

 

Ya..lol @ the guy thats right. Keep laughing, your free to believe your own bullsh*t.

 

But the fact of the matter is the Sultan can out drive every single 4 door in the game. Which means, its faster.

 

Exemplar was tested by Broughy at 1:02 on cutting coroners, Sultan got 1:05...its faster. 3 seconds is a huge gap.

 

 

No traffic, no racers, using a stock version.. Besides, time trials don't matter.

 

So, youre comparing sultan with independent variables and calling is faster...those variables can't be counted when it comes to comparing because it doesnt give a fair 1 to 1 comparison because its never the same.

 

Time trials are the only true way to determine whats truly faster, vs whats faster in certain situations that can never be replicated.

 

 

1. Hes using a stock version.

 

2. Time trails are not real races.

 

 

 

Hence it doesn't matter.. If you wanna take some guys word driving around in a 'stock' version, driving the same line around the same track track with no traffic/racers what so ever, thats your choice.

 

Hey.. Sultan stock version sucks anyways. So i agree. Stock sultans are slower.

 

 

You're confusing opinion with fact. Fact is, when everything is equal, the Exemplar is faster. When there are variables, there is no way to determine what's faster because it is not the same race for everyone.

 

You can believe it doesn't matter, but in any experiment or test, you need a control group where there is no changes or differences and it is just the base line of EVERYTHING. Broughy's time trials are exactly that.

So, if you want to spout your what ifs and hypotheticals, have at it, but it doesn't make your opinion correct over proven fact. You are not omnipotent where you solely determine what is a real race and what isn't. You can run your time trials of fully modded of each and see, but the second you add variables, it goes from proven fact to purely opining.

Edited March 27, 2014 by Mattyp1514

[Biohazard Abyss]

Id rather be stubborn if im right.

 

Stats are wack.. That video is wack.

 

How about you just deal with it instead of complaining about it..

 

 

Whatever dude. If you want to live in your I'm Always Right little pathetic fantasy world cause you can't swallow your pride and just admit you're wrong, go right ahead. I bet you think the Adder or Cheetah is the best super too, even though everyone else says Entity. Have fun driving your little tinker-toy rally car until an experienced racer comes by in his Exemplar, beats you, then you come back crying that we were right.

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol at the guy that thinks the Sultan is faster than the Exemplar

 

 

Ya..lol @ the guy thats right. Keep laughing, your free to believe your own bullsh*t.

 

But the fact of the matter is the Sultan can out drive every single 4 door in the game. Which means, its faster.

 

Exemplar was tested by Broughy at 1:02 on cutting coroners, Sultan got 1:05...its faster. 3 seconds is a huge gap.

 

 

No traffic, no racers, using a stock version.. Besides, time trials don't matter.

 

So, youre comparing sultan with independent variables and calling is faster...those variables can't be counted when it comes to comparing because it doesnt give a fair 1 to 1 comparison because its never the same.

 

Time trials are the only true way to determine whats truly faster, vs whats faster in certain situations that can never be replicated.

 

 

1. Hes using a stock version.

 

2. Time trails are not real races.

 

 

 

Hence it doesn't matter.. If you wanna take some guys word driving around in a 'stock' version, driving the same line around the same track track with no traffic/racers what so ever, thats your choice.

 

Hey.. Sultan stock version sucks anyways. So i agree. Stock sultans are slower.

 

 

You're confusing opinion with fact. Fact is, when everything is equal, the Exemplar is faster.

 

 

 

...Ok... il make my own video then.. That will prove me right.

 

Must be right if theres a video right?...lol

 

Id rather be stubborn if im right.

 

Stats are wack.. That video is wack.

 

How about you just deal with it instead of complaining about it..

 

 

Whatever dude. blah blah blah...

 

 

Dealing with things means you need to deal with it. Running your mouth does nothing..

Edited March 27, 2014 by Vooodu

[Biohazard Abyss]

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

[GtaGuy420]

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

Edited March 27, 2014 by GtaGuy420

[Bus Rider 1]

I'm sure that voodu will probably come back to this thread to boast about the Sultan again.

Anyway, I think we can mutually agree that the Exemplar is better than the Sultan, through most of the categories.

[Kampioen]

 

Worst argument ever.

 

So, youre comparing sultan with independent variables and calling it faster...those variables can't be counted when it comes to comparing because it doesnt give a fair 1 to 1 comparison because its never the same.

 

Time trials are the only true way to determine whats truly faster, vs whats faster in certain situations that can never be replicated. One car hitting your Exemplar making it 3 seconds slower does not make the Sultan faster. It means the exemplar is slower when it gets hit by a car and a Sultan does not.

 

 

Time trials in a straight line aren't perfect though because cornering is very important as well. But yeah, it's probably the best we have to determine which is faster unless someone is willing to do the same race thousands of times in both cars.

Edited March 27, 2014 by CenMan

[Mattyp1514]

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

Again, have uncontrollable variables proves even less. When you can't control something, it proves nothing. Since you can't control traffic, and you can't control other drivers, you can't validate ANYTHING in that. Far too many variables to say A over B.

 

A simple track that can easily have a route replicated and no additional changes is the most correct way you can compare ANYTHING in this game. You're arguing against proven fact...it's not just proven in GTA, it's proven in every aspect of any experiment ever. You need to maintain basic common points to be able to prove one thing over another. The second a variable comes in and delevels the playing field, the experiment is now null and void.

[Vooodu]

I'm sure that voodu will probably come back to this thread to boast about the Sultan again.

Anyway, I think we can mutually agree that the Exemplar is better than the Sultan, through most of the categories.

 

 

Sultan has faster acceleration.. Better handling, better traction.

 

You can all mutually agree all day long. Thats like mutually agreeing the world is flat.

[Mattyp1514]

 

I'm sure that voodu will probably come back to this thread to boast about the Sultan again.

Anyway, I think we can mutually agree that the Exemplar is better than the Sultan, through most of the categories.

 

 

Sultan has faster acceleration.. Better handling, better traction.

 

You can all mutually agree all day long. Thats like mutually agreeing the world is flat.

 

If all this is true, while did the Sultan lose in an A/B test by 3 seconds?

[Bus Rider 1]

 

I'm sure that voodu will probably come back to this thread to boast about the Sultan again.

Anyway, I think we can mutually agree that the Exemplar is better than the Sultan, through most of the categories.

 

 

Sultan has faster acceleration.. Better handling, better traction.

 

You can all mutually agree all day long. Thats like mutually agreeing the world is flat.

 

Oh you're back. Hello.

Anyone wanna reply to him?

[Vooodu]

 

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

Again, have uncontrollable variables proves even less. When you can't control something, it proves nothing. Since you can't control traffic, and you can't control other drivers, you can't validate ANYTHING in that. Far too many variables to say A over B.

 

A simple track that can easily have a route replicated and no additional changes is the most correct way you can compare ANYTHING in this game. You're arguing against proven fact...it's not just proven in GTA, it's proven in every aspect of any experiment ever. You need to maintain basic common points to be able to prove one thing over another. The second a variable comes in and delevels the playing field, the experiment is now null and void.

 

 

 

Hes driving a sock version... Thats all that matter... And hes alone.

 

Everytime i race/drive in GTA its modded cars... and theres traffic. The f*ck do i care if some dude is driving around "Cutting "Corners' all day long, alone in stock version.

 

Its means jack sh*t to me man... Sorry.

 

 

I'm sure that voodu will probably come back to this thread to boast about the Sultan again.

Anyway, I think we can mutually agree that the Exemplar is better than the Sultan, through most of the categories.

 

 

Sultan has faster acceleration.. Better handling, better traction.

 

You can all mutually agree all day long. Thats like mutually agreeing the world is flat.

 

If all this is true, while did the Sultan lose in an A/B test by 3 seconds?

 

 

 

Why did the sultan win the the G/K test by 5 minutes?

[RDT33]

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

 

[Mattyp1514]

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

[Bus Rider 1]

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

He just wants some free posts.

[98 in 1]

Moonshield, I see you eyeing dis thread. Please lock it up for the sake of the children.

[Vooodu]

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock versions..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

Edited March 27, 2014 by Vooodu

[GtaGuy420]

 

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

 

 

 

 

That video is just him talking. It doesn't show or prove anything.

[Bus Rider 1]

 

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock versions..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

 

It's been 4 pages worth of arguing. Just stop.

We already have Moonshield watching the thread. Don't make it worse.

[RDT33]

 

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock version..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

 

So what testing have you done? Because you must have PROOF that the Sultan is better, right? Because testing means nothing? I guess you don't believe that the cure for polio exists. I mean, Jonas Salk only did some tests! That means nothing.

[Mattyp1514]

 

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock versions..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

 

It proves far more than you comparing with traffic, with other racers, with numerous variables.

 

A time trial is the way CAR COMPANIES test to see whats fastest. That whole fastest production car test....guess what? It doesn't count unless you race the same strip in both directions because of the wind. EVEN CAR COMPANIES USE TIME TRIALS SANS VARIABLES.

 

So, whos right....you or every car company on the planet?

 

Hell, Gas mileage test can be screwed up by a small downhill or uphill variation in the test, and would completely nullify the results.

 

 

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

 

 

 

 

That video is just him talking. It doesn't show or prove anything.

 

He didnt run time trials I guess, huh? Did you actually watch more than 2 minutes of it?

Edited March 27, 2014 by Mattyp1514

[Vooodu]

 

 

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock versions..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

 

It proves far more than you comparing with traffic, with other racers, with numerous variables.

 

A time trial is the way CAR COMPANIES test to see whats fastest. That whole fastest production car test....guess what? It doesn't count unless you race the same strip in both directions because of the wind. EVEN CAR COMPANIES USE TIME TRIALS SANS VARIABLES.

 

So, whos right....you or every car company on the planet?

 

 

 

Sorry dude.. But i drive with people and AI. I could care less about stock versions OR cutting corners.

 

 

When i need to see some stock versions doing care bare laps.. Il hit you up for some more videos.. Ok.

Edited March 27, 2014 by Vooodu

[Vec]

The Hearse

[Mattyp1514]

 

 

 

"Sultan RS is nowhere near a 58 second lap" and he admitted his Exemplar lap was terrible.

 

Just stop now.

 

 

...He... Oooooh Praise da LORD.

 

Well since "HE" said it then "HE" must be right.. Right?

 

Im just gonna drive around cutting corners all day in stock versions..alone. Behold the GTA driving bible...

 

...

 

 

I don't think so...

 

It proves far more than you comparing with traffic, with other racers, with numerous variables.

 

A time trial is the way CAR COMPANIES test to see whats fastest. That whole fastest production car test....guess what? It doesn't count unless you race the same strip in both directions because of the wind. EVEN CAR COMPANIES USE TIME TRIALS SANS VARIABLES.

 

So, whos right....you or every car company on the planet?

 

 

 

Sorry dude.. But i drive with people and AI. I could carless about stock version OR cutting corners.

 

 

When i need to see some stock versions doing care bare laps.. Il hit up up for some more videos.. Ok.

 

That doesn't mean what you see is truth. You're literally ignoring the fact that variables that can't be replicated at will makes anything you say bunk. If you change something, you nullify EVERYTHING you just did in terms of proving A over B. Stop arguing with scientific fact.

 

If you put a Veyron in downtown LA, guess what? It can't go 270 MPH. Does that mean that a moped is faster because it can get from la brea to mullholland is faster because it weaved inbetween the gridlock? See how f*cking dumb you sound with your "proof"?

Edited March 27, 2014 by Mattyp1514

[Kampioen]

 

 

 

I can't come up with a counter-argument so I'm just going to keep telling you to deal with it like a whiny bitch.

 

 

I'm done here. Exemplar is better. Bye.

 

 

Please stop posting. Thanks. Bye.

 

I just wanted to add that Voodoo does make a point about that video. Its all stock versions.. Stock version drive differently. Also, he drives the cars nearly the same with nothing preventing him from changing his path.

 

Now.. the stock exempler might be a tad faster on simple tracks like that with no traffic. That hardly proves anything.

 

Id like to see a video with both cars fully upgraded.

 

Again, have uncontrollable variables proves even less. When you can't control something, it proves nothing. Since you can't control traffic, and you can't control other drivers, you can't validate ANYTHING in that. Far too many variables to say A over B.

 

A simple track that can easily have a route replicated and no additional changes is the most correct way you can compare ANYTHING in this game. You're arguing against proven fact...it's not just proven in GTA, it's proven in every aspect of any experiment ever. You need to maintain basic common points to be able to prove one thing over another. The second a variable comes in and delevels the playing field, the experiment is now null and void.

 

 

You could probably get pretty close to reliable results if you learn to drive both cars very well and then do the same race lots of times to reduce the statistical margin or error. But that assumes you learn the optimal way to drive that course in both cars, which isn't easy.

[Vooodu]

That doesn't mean what you see is truth. You're literally ignoring the fact that variables that can't be replicated at will makes anything you say bunk. If you change something, you nullify EVERYTHING you just did in terms of proving A over B. Stop arguing with scientific fact.

 

 

 

 

..lol...... Scientific facts? So now the guy doing care bare laps in stock version is a Scientist?

 

 

 

 

Its also a proven fact that im a Brain Surgeon.

Edited March 27, 2014 by Vooodu

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