Battlefield Hardline

[LightningLord]

-video-

Lmao, some parts of the video had me in stitches.

 

Looks like I won't be getting Hardline.

[Daz]

There is only really 3 major issues that I have.

 

1: Being obviously the lag, as you can see by my video on the other page, it is at totally unacceptable levels of desync.

 

2: Not being able to use any weapon on any side without getting an insane amount of kills with that weapon, (at which you would be entirely bored with it) And having kit restrictive pistols. I want the Glock 17 on any kit like you can with the tazer, even if I have to spend 200K to put it into a slot underneath the dart gun.

 

3: Maps are pretty small. I know it doesn't call for super large maps but it had a perfect balance of that in previous games. Everything now is just a clusterf*ck.

 

 

I know I always nag about having realistic weapon damage and less bullets to kill but it doesn't work if the game is lagging. BF4 had the best of both worlds. It didn't take too many shots, enough to get away from but enough to kill when you needed to. This is just a massive f*ckup. Even when the game runs slightly normal it still is difficult to kill with some weapons. And others are outright redundant.

 

The game needs a massive patch to fix the lag, reduce the amounts of f*cking RPG's and dickhead tactics and reduce the weapon license price down to 200 kills per weapon.

[Aby]

I haven't tried the VIP mode but Joe's video really made it look silly. I didn't know it was just 5v5, with two escape points for the VIP, and the escape process is so fast. To be honest though I haven't played the game in days, the lag just got way too much for me to put up with, but I'll be returning when they finally (or at least they better) fix it.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Aby

[Daz]

The beauty of battlefield is 64 player matches, and every single game mode aside from conquest large has 32 player matches and under. And my f*cking god do rounds go far too quick.

 

One conquest map the other day from start to finish lasted 3:24 minutes. I mean what the honest f*ck.

 

I mean I don't want it to drag out for an hour like bullsh*t 1000 ticket metro games, but at least 15 minutes in length. Hotwire and blood money are good but other than those and conquest large, the rest suck. And even those rarely ever exceed 7-8 minutes in length.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Daz

[SimsDaniel916]

Even on that difficulty the enemy AI seem to take multiplayer levels of damage before they die.

 

Pretty f*cking annoying having weak AI in tshirts taking up to 3 .44 Magnum shots to die. It didn't make it very satisfying.

 

It really pisses me off when I'm trying to do an op without being detected but after shooting an AI wearing a tank top right in the heart with a bolt-action sniper, he magically lives and I get detected.

 

Simple AI not wearing armor, SHOULD NOT survive a hit from a bolt-action sniper, especially if said shot is directed at their heart.

[SimsDaniel916]

Even though the spawns in Team Deathmatch have clear signs of rarely being tested, I have continued to play it as it can be a great way to rack up on kills and revives when going for Assignments. In the last match I just played, I was spawn killed four times in a damn row without me being able to get as much as 5 rounds out. If I end up playing another match of this spawn kill clusterf*ck, I'll need to go see Dr. Friedlander.

 

In other news, EA's true colors are shown as Battlepacks are now purchasable, $3 for a Gold BattlePack or $12 for a bundle of five! It seams they waited until the sales were at a decent number and the reviews were all out.

[tuareg]

There's another thing i'm not too fond of, wich is characters calling out. It was neat when i first saw it in BF3, but with time it just became a nuisance. It gets rid of tactics and stealth when your character yells out "GRENADE!" or "HERE'S A MEDPACK FOR YOU MOTHERf*ckERS!".

 

I hate to be a nag and complain, but it has been a complaint since BF4. But at least in earlier games you could tell the difference between two factions. In HL the police shout the same gibberish slang that criminals do. From what i've gathered at least. Seriously what's the point?

[Ai®a©ob®a]

I haven't tried the VIP mode but Joe's video really made it look silly. I didn't know it was just 5v5, with two escape points for the VIP, and the escape process is so fast. To be honest though I haven't played the game in days, the lag just got way too much for me to put up with, but I'll be returning when they finally (or at least they better) fix it.

The VIP mode is just that, Each match is over within 30 seconds the VIP has to rely on his teammates to keep him safe but instead they all go their own way leaving the VIP exposed to be killed within 20 seconds of the match starting.

[9i OTD]

Is this game worth buying? (and is it better or worse than Advanced Warfare, since IMHO it wasn't too bad)

[Daz]

Is this game worth buying? (and is it better or worse than Advanced Warfare, since IMHO it wasn't too bad)

I haven't played COD since the pisspoor effort of MW2. So I can't judge. But they can't really be compared.

 

However as a comparison from BF4 to this, BF4 is much more of a better game.

 

Finally got round to watching the angry joe review Aby posted. He pretty much nailed it on the head there. Though I think I disliked the story even more than him. Like how he mentions it making no sense to arrest people later in the game and how it only unlocks more guns you won't use. And how they don't call out when arrested, but on top of that why the hell when arresting more than one person alone that you aren't just bundled by the enemy while you are handcuffing them, and how you carry like 20 zipties on your vest yet you use handcuffs the whole time.

 

So many pisspoor choices for SP. But I am glad he mentioned the bullsh*t requirement for weapons to be on both sides and the extreme lack of weapons overall. I really hope that is addressed in a patch. We get f*ck all as it is, at least let us have any gun on any side from the get go.

 

The game is just nowhere near what BF4 is now. Sure BF4 was full of issues when it came out but you would at least expect a game released well over a year after the previous to at least have some of the tweaks it had to fix issues.

 

I have a new controller on order so hopefully some annoyances will stop but seriously...

 

...dat lag, just f*ck off.

 

Also no way I am paying for premium on this sh*t.

[Icarus]

I finished the campaign on Hardline difficulty a couple of days ago. Yeah, it was not even challenging. That's one thing I'll give to CoD: when you play that on Veteran, for the most part, the campaign is pretty damn challenging (although I really hate infinite spawning enemies and the nonstop volley of grenades). This was just too piss easy.

[Aby]

The AI is just not competent. While their bullets do enough damage, simply taking cover prevents all attacks as they don't try to flank, advance, or do anything.

[Icarus]

Like how he mentions it making no sense to arrest people later in the game and how it only unlocks more guns you won't use. And how they don't call out when arrested, but on top of that why the hell when arresting more than one person alone that you aren't just bundled by the enemy while you are handcuffing them, and how you carry like 20 zipties on your vest yet you use handcuffs the whole time.

Yeah, that part bothered me a little. You no longer have your powers of arrest after the midpoint of the game, so it's a bit stupid to still be doing it. Unless they're taking the citizens arrest angle.

[Coin]

The AI is just not competent. While their bullets do enough damage, simply taking cover prevents all attacks as they don't try to flank, advance, or do anything.

 

They do.

 

I regularly got flanked or smoked out of cover with grenades.

[Aby]

 

The AI is just not competent. While their bullets do enough damage, simply taking cover prevents all attacks as they don't try to flank, advance, or do anything.

 

They do.

 

I regularly got flanked or smoked out of cover with grenades.

 

 

This has never happened to me, I've only died when I rushed in like a moron with no cover around

[ArcadeWilliamz]

I've bought this game yesterday because I enjoyed the beta.

 

POSITIVES

Matchmaking is great.

I don't lose connection every 2 minutes.

Good game modes.

Rockstar isn't running the servers.

 

NEGATIVES

Bad campaign.

 

Problems with Hotwire

- Helicopters just don't belong in this mode when the objective is to capture & control land vehicles not jump into a chopper and DESTROY every capture vehicle in the map and becomes frustrating.

- RPG's & breaching charges are just used for camping on the side of the road waiting for a marked vehicle to pass by.

 

Experiencing lag in Team Deathmatch & Conquest Large don't know it's just me or everyone experiences it?

Edited April 4, 2015 by Willstig998

[Ai®a©ob®a]

Experiencing lag in Team Deathmatch & Conquest Large don't know it's just me or everyone experiences it?

Yeah the last few pages are really nothing more than us bitching about the lagging and how we get instakilled while they survive with full health.

[Daz]

They really need to tone down the RPG's, anyone can get one in a second and whenever I use them I can never judge distance like I could in other games, because of the lag I have blown up vehicles yet I have physically seen the rocket past behind the target, so there is no way to fully tell.

 

Also the helicopters, yes, are f*cking annoying. The game mode is about controling the land vehicles not being lame chopper whores. I do think the grenade launchers are good though, that is all the fun in the vehicles, without those the mode would be boring as f*ck. They don't insta-kill and everyone can use them straight away which makes it fair. I just get upset when I run out, it is literally all the enjoyment gone. Can't stand breaching charge campers neither. If you aren't in an objective or going to one vehicle, you are just a piece of sh*t in that mode.

 

As for SP. The angry joe review summed it up pretty much perfectly. I really expected an experience like the wire, or at the very least like southland. But past 3 levels it has f*ck all to do with police work. It is already taking a downgrade going from military to police so its always going to be less spectacular than a war scenario. So why fight it? Just make some interesting sh*t.

 

At the core of it all I just didn't even enjoy the shooting. Even if it is all mindless sh*t usually just shooting people can be fun, but it wasn't. The only thing that was fun was the tazer but that is it. The Glock had the best stats over any other pistol yet it still took 5-6 shots to down people. Aiming and iron sights are terrible and it's sometimes hard to get a headshot and have it actually work.

 

It was just no fun. Very cutscene heavy for a game with sh*tty dialog and plot. You could probably speedrun the entire story in like 2 hours. Doing arrests, earning points, finding collectibles are all distractions from the fact it is boring and short. They don't offer fun or value, it is there just to slow you down so you don't beat the game any faster.

 

 

 

Edit: I guess you can't in 2 hours, seeing as the cutscenes are f*cking unskippable.

Edited April 3, 2015 by Daz

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

I've bought this game yesterday because I enjoyed the beta.

POSITIVES

Matchmaking is great.

I don't lose connection every 2 minutes.

Good game modes.

Rockstar isn't running the servers.

NEGATIVES

Bad campaign.

I like Hotwire but it has things that ruins the experience.

- Helicopters just don't belong in this mode when the objective is to capture land vehicles not jump into a chopper and DESTROY every capture vehicle in the map and becomes frustrating.

- RPG's, grenade launchers & mines I'm sorry but they just become best tools for campers.

Experiencing lag in Team Deathmatch & Conquest Large don't know it's just me or everyone experiences it?

Only if people would give the damned game a chance to prove itself, I haven't enjoyed a Battlefield game this much since Bad Company 2, The game is great, however there is a few problems with the game, but no were near the problems of Battlefield 4 (A game that was barely playable and wasn't fully fixed till the 3rd or 4th DLC). Battlefield Hardline has little to no net-code issues, the only time net-code becomes a problem is when there is lag, and the lag isn't the game's nor EA's fault half the time, just last night alone On Xbox 360 I saw 3 Brazilians, 1 Russia, and 1 South African in a U.S East Server all in one match, when they have business in U.S east servers as they just cause massive lag, also the game just needs some rebalancing, some of the guns have intsa-gib damage at close range, namely the K10 (by the time you react your dead), Deathamatch spawns need a hot fix, some maps the spawns are fine, others not so much. Other then those problems (the first one being unfixable due to the fact you can't patch human stupidly) the games fine.

[Aby]

The game is far from fine.

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

The game is far from fine.

On my end it is, I haven't had a problem with so it far other then what I stated before. However Most Battlefield Fans I've seen aren't giving it a damn chance cause it's Cops and Robbers, not the usual Merica' vs. Russia s*it (something that has gotten really old), and most of the so called "problems" a lot of people I've seen b*tching about have been in every game since BF3. Based off my time playing the game, it just needs some ironing out, that's it. Edited April 4, 2015 by SuzukiBlaze

[Aby]

You must have got a special copy, cause out of everyone here, you're the only one not having problems.

 

Daz already provided video proof of multiple occasions of latency issues, so no reason for you to put problems in quotes, as the game is proven to be a broken mess.

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

You must have got a special copy, cause out of everyone here, you're the only one not having problems.

 

Daz already provided video proof of multiple occasions of latency issues, so no reason for you to put problems in quotes, as the game is proven to be a broken mess.

Latency issues? Did you not read my post? People outside the U.S and Canada have no business in U.S Servers, the only time I have any Latency and/or Net-code issues is when it's someone is outside U.S or Canada. Every time I've gotten intsa-gibbed, I've checked the person's gamer card, and 9 times out of 10 their Brazilian. Again, you can't patch Stupidly, and best of all I do Believe South America has their own servers now, yet they still flood U.S Servers. Edited April 4, 2015 by SuzukiBlaze

[Coin]

 

Latency issues? Did you not read my post? People outside the U.S and Canada have no business in U.S Servers, the only time I have any Latency and/or Net-code issues is when it's someone is outside U.S or Canada. Every time I've gotten intsa-gibbed, I've checked the person's gamer card, and 9 times out of 10 their Brazilian. Again, you can't patch Stupidly, and best of all I do Believe South America has their own servers now, yet they still flood U.S Servers.

 

 

Lol.

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

 

Latency issues? Did you not read my post? People outside the U.S and Canada have no business in U.S Servers, the only time I have any Latency and/or Net-code issues is when it's someone is outside U.S or Canada. Every time I've gotten intsa-gibbed, I've checked the person's gamer card, and 9 times out of 10 their Brazilian. Again, you can't patch Stupidly, and best of all I do Believe South America has their own servers now, yet they still flood U.S Servers.

 

Lol.

Yes, LOL indeed, It used to piss me off to no end back on BF3, but I've have since grown use to it. Edited April 4, 2015 by SuzukiBlaze

[Icarus]

From earlier today:

 

[http://i.imgur.com/ILsuI3g.gifv

Edited April 4, 2015 by Icarus

[Matty256]

Just got the game now on PS4, about to go in for the long sleep while it installs, see you next year

[Daz]

 

You must have got a special copy, cause out of everyone here, you're the only one not having problems.

 

Daz already provided video proof of multiple occasions of latency issues, so no reason for you to put problems in quotes, as the game is proven to be a broken mess.

Latency issues? Did you not read my post? People outside the U.S and Canada have no business in U.S Servers, the only time I have any Latency and/or Net-code issues is when it's someone is outside U.S or Canada. Every time I've gotten intsa-gibbed, I've checked the person's gamer card, and 9 times out of 10 their Brazilian. Again, you can't patch Stupidly, and best of all I do Believe South America has their own servers now, yet they still flood U.S Servers.

 

1: It was on european servers.

2: Neither BF4 or any other bf game (I have owned every single one) has ever had issues like this game does to this extent.

3: It worked more or less fine every match in the Beta a few months earlier.

 

The fact is that there is something inherently wrong or at least different with the game in comparison to all the other titles. And it is not just a bad connection neither, It can go from perfectly fine to completely terrible within the space of 30 seconds like in my videos on the previous page.

 

I have already played 150 hours + of the game and it is already pretty boring for me now. Extreme lack of guns and choice than other titles, it is already dumbed down in this genre so there really isn't a whole lot to do. It doesn't make use of 64 players, only on conquest.

 

There are some MASSIVE lag issues and very bad game imbalances with the guns and kits. It is pretty poorly thought out.

 

BF4 had some sh*tty issues to begin with but at least the actual gameplay worked, you could shoot at people and they died. Losing kit loadouts and not having squad join sucked but at least it was a fun playable experience still. This is not.

 

I am trying my hardest to enjoy it the best I can but I am on the verge of just going back to BF4 and not looking back.

[eroch]

Would any of you recommend this game if I do not intend on playing this with a group of friends? My group from BF4 has decided not to get this one.

 

Also, would you recommend getting any of the dlc or special editions, or just waiting until they go on sale?

[Daz]

It's pretty boring without friends, and even with it gets a bit repetitive now. I would probably wait until they tweak the game a little and balance the weapons out and fix lag.

 

Not worth full price right now and any DLC defo is not worth it in this state it is in.

 

If you own BF4, continue playing that, as this doesn't offer anything new.