Exclusion of vehicles/building interiors couldn't be because of la

[Iroquois]

There are plenty of vehicles that could be argued that they would induce lag.

 

Airliner Jet due to its size (similar to the tug in IV) although i never noticed lag flying the jet.

 

Towtruck definitely would and only if you chained together multiple tow trucks. This can be circumvented by putting in an extra code stating that 1 tow truck can not lock/pull another tow truck. Tow trucks in online could be useful if your car dived into the water and you need to pull it out (tow truck service?).

 

But back to the thread topic, the exclusion of interiors and vehicles can not be because of lag. Anyone else remember R* announcing that someday as they are slowly expanding GTA:O that they will add new cities to Online(only way this would work would be flying to them).

 

Imagine the possible "lag" you would create with an 2 cities buffered in the same server.

SP doesnt have any lag, so why would a room with all the same features + 15 other entities(players) cause lag?

Edited March 22, 2014 by Iroquois

[DJ Kornphlake]

SP doesnt have any lag, so why would a room with all the same features + 15 other entities(players) cause lag?

Because SP isn't online?

[Iroquois]

 

SP doesnt have any lag, so why would a room with all the same features + 15 other entities(players) cause lag?

 

Because SP isn't online?

 

Some SP of games lag (ex. TC series). But thats not what i was getting at. More like, what do they plan on doing for city dlc/patch updates.

[CrazyDog150]

Because of the sh*tty Cloud Servers...they are so sh*tty,Brian B would invite them to stream with him...*badumm tsss*

[frothyy]

People have some single player to multi player glitch with the massive airliner and it ran perfectly no lag or crashes in a public lobby

[Mosin Nagant 91/30]

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

[DeezyGaming]

What if going city to city would just put you into a server with other players that are already there.

That way there wouldn't be lag between each city.

 

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

Actually R* said they want GTA Online to be its own game as suppose to adding another gtao in the next GTA game. Edited March 23, 2014 by DeezyGaming

[SbrbnHstlr]

Because, Shark Cards.

[Soran Is On]

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

 

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

 

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

 

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

[Iroquois]

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

 

Wow..7 replies and only 2 of those were acceptable responses. R* did infact mention they would expand the world of GTA online. So calm down mosin nagant.

 

 

No stonedpimps, you are correct, i do not know how to code. However i do know that you are able to put things into codes like: "Do this for all {A, b , c....z} except for p". where p = tow truck in this example.

 

You do realize ppl are not examples of perfection. Just because someone doesnt think of something, that doesnt mean no one else can. Thats how the world works. Responses, feedbacks, suggedtions, criticism. You also didnt contribute anything like mosin nagant so dont bother posting.

 

If im sort of right, tell me and lets discuss why. If im dead wrong, tell me why and lets discuss it. You dont come into a damn thread with your sarcastic tones and vulgarity and condescension which doesnt add to anything creatively.

[XxX19Dude95XxX]

GTA:O that they will add new cities to Online(only way this would work would be flying to them).

 

did they say this or are you just thinking that this is the only way it would work because of so that is disappointing

[Ezza.]

 

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

 

Wow..7 replies and only 2 of those were acceptable responses. R* did infact mention they would expand the world of GTA online. So calm down mosin nagant.

 

 

No stonedpimps, you are correct, i do not know how to code. However i do know that you are able to put things into codes like: "Do this for all {A, b , c....z} except for p". where p = tow truck in this example.

 

You do realize ppl are not examples of perfection. Just because someone doesnt think of something, that doesnt mean no one else can. Thats how the world works. Responses, feedbacks, suggedtions, criticism. You also didnt contribute anything like mosin nagant so dont bother posting.

 

If im sort of right, tell me and lets discuss why. If im dead wrong, tell me why and lets discuss it. You dont come into a damn thread with your sarcastic tones and vulgarity and condescension which doesnt add to anything creatively.

 

Acceptable responses? Somebody's a bit snobby

 

Okay why you're wrong:

 

Your main thesis was that SP doesn't lag with all these features so why would Online? Well, all of the things you see in SP are Local to your console, meaning that they can be accessed easily without any lag.

 

Online however is completely different. 98% of the things in GTA Online are stored on the Cloud Servers, your character, your garage, your cars, etc. Why would the Jet (747) lag, you ask? Because it was never intended for Online gameplay. The 747 was added to the game late in development, hence no entry animation, the simplistic and unrealistic handling and the name, Jet.

 

Why would they and the Cargo plane make the game lag? If you have, say 4 747s or Cargo Planes flying around that's a lot of things for the cloud servers to handle. Remember the Tug from GTA IV's online component? If any vehicle was touching the Tug, even another boat the game would have extreme lag. Why? Because it's a big thing to load.

 

Just wait, and we'll probably get a "Greetings from Los Santos/Vice City/San Fierro/Las Venturas/Liberty City DLC" (we haven't decid- I mean Rockstar Haven't decided on a name yet) which will hopefully include new aircraft (like the 747), new ships, new cars, camera as a weapon. Then it will be fixed to carry more than 1 person, an interior and a correct entry animation.

 

Be patient, and don't be rude, that's just rude

Edited March 23, 2014 by EZza2647

[Iroquois]

 

GTA:O that they will add new cities to Online(only way this would work would be flying to them).

 

did they say this or are you just thinking that this is the only way it would work because of so that is disappointing

 

 

They did say they will expand to new cities in Online. As for how it will work, that was just my opinion, so the last bit on the "flying" is not true.

 

 

 

 

 

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

 

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

 

Wow..7 replies and only 2 of those were acceptable responses. R* did infact mention they would expand the world of GTA online. So calm down mosin nagant.

No stonedpimps, you are correct, i do not know how to code. However i do know that you are able to put things into codes like: "Do this for all {A, b , c....z} except for p". where p = tow truck in this example.

You do realize ppl are not examples of perfection. Just because someone doesnt think of something, that doesnt mean no one else can. Thats how the world works. Responses, feedbacks, suggedtions, criticism. You also didnt contribute anything like mosin nagant so dont bother posting.

If im sort of right, tell me and lets discuss why. If im dead wrong, tell me why and lets discuss it. You dont come into a damn thread with your sarcastic tones and vulgarity and condescension which doesnt add to anything creatively.

 

Acceptable responses? Somebody's a bit snobby

 

Okay why you're wrong:

 

Your main thesis was that SP doesn't lag with all these features so why would Online? Well, all of the things you see in SP are Local to your console, meaning that they can be accessed easily without any lag.

 

Online however is completely different. 98% of the things in GTA Online are stored on the Cloud Servers, your character, your garage, your cars, etc. Why would the Jet (747) lag, you ask? Because it was never intended for Online gameplay. The 747 was added to the game late in development, hence no entry animation, the simplistic and unrealistic handling and the name, Jet.

 

Why would they and the Cargo plane make the game lag? If you have, say 4 747s or Cargo Planes flying around that's a lot of things for the cloud servers to handle. Remember the Tug from GTA IV's online component? If any vehicle was touching the Tug, even another boat the game would have extreme lag. Why? Because it's a big thing to load.

 

Just wait, and we'll probably get a "Greetings from Los Santos/Vice City/San Fierro/Las Venturas/Liberty City DLC" (we haven't decid- I mean Rockstar Haven't decided on a name yet) which will hopefully include new aircraft (like the 747), new ships, new cars, camera as a weapon. Then it will be fixed to carry more than 1 person, an interior and a correct entry animation.

 

Be patient, and don't be rude, that's just rude

Ok thank you for explaining it. You'll notice i liked your post because i agree with your rebuttal, although not with the snobby bit.

 

I just said it the way i said it in my previous topic replies is because those other 2 were not contributing and were trying to be smart-alecs. The "snobbiness" or "rudeness" that you may have sensed was directed at mosin and stoned for their immaturity and stupidity which resulted in a waste of time for everyone.

 

Anyways back on topic, thanks for your reply. What do you think about the tow truck thing though?

Edited March 23, 2014 by Iroquois

[Ezza.]

 

 

GTA:O that they will add new cities to Online(only way this would work would be flying to them).

did they say this or are you just thinking that this is the only way it would work because of so that is disappointing

 

 

They did say they will expand to new cities in Online. As for how it will work, that was just my opinion, so the last bit on the "flying" is not true.

 

 

 

 

 

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

Wow..7 replies and only 2 of those were acceptable responses. R* did infact mention they would expand the world of GTA online. So calm down mosin nagant.

No stonedpimps, you are correct, i do not know how to code. However i do know that you are able to put things into codes like: "Do this for all {A, b , c....z} except for p". where p = tow truck in this example.

You do realize ppl are not examples of perfection. Just because someone doesnt think of something, that doesnt mean no one else can. Thats how the world works. Responses, feedbacks, suggedtions, criticism. You also didnt contribute anything like mosin nagant so dont bother posting.

If im sort of right, tell me and lets discuss why. If im dead wrong, tell me why and lets discuss it. You dont come into a damn thread with your sarcastic tones and vulgarity and condescension which doesnt add to anything creatively.

Acceptable responses? Somebody's a bit snobby

 

Okay why you're wrong:

 

Your main thesis was that SP doesn't lag with all these features so why would Online? Well, all of the things you see in SP are Local to your console, meaning that they can be accessed easily without any lag.

 

Online however is completely different. 98% of the things in GTA Online are stored on the Cloud Servers, your character, your garage, your cars, etc. Why would the Jet (747) lag, you ask? Because it was never intended for Online gameplay. The 747 was added to the game late in development, hence no entry animation, the simplistic and unrealistic handling and the name, Jet.

 

Why would they and the Cargo plane make the game lag? If you have, say 4 747s or Cargo Planes flying around that's a lot of things for the cloud servers to handle. Remember the Tug from GTA IV's online component? If any vehicle was touching the Tug, even another boat the game would have extreme lag. Why? Because it's a big thing to load.

 

Just wait, and we'll probably get a "Greetings from Los Santos/Vice City/San Fierro/Las Venturas/Liberty City DLC" (we haven't decid- I mean Rockstar Haven't decided on a name yet) which will hopefully include new aircraft (like the 747), new ships, new cars, camera as a weapon. Then it will be fixed to carry more than 1 person, an interior and a correct entry animation.

 

Be patient, and don't be rude, that's just rude

Ok thank you for explaining it. You'll notice i liked your post because i agree with your rebuttal, although not with the snobby bit.

 

I just said it the way i said it in my previous topic replies is because those other 2 were not contributing and were trying to be smart-alecs. The "snobbiness" or "rudeness" that you may have sensed was directed at mosin and stoned for their immaturity and stupidity which resulted in a waste of time for everyone.

 

Anyways back on topic, thanks for your reply. What do you think about the tow truck thing though?

 

okaly dokely. You just came off a little, rude in your post. But it's okay, this is the Online section after all

 

The tow trucks are different. For some reason they lag the game really badly when towing pretty much anything.

 

Probably they lag now because they don't exist in the cloud servers. They have to pull all those resources from everyone in the lobby's console. And when you're towing a tow truck (which ISO modders could get around the code you proposed which would stop a tow truck towing a tow truck) the game has to pull the data from everyone's consoles twice.

 

Rockstar will probably add them into the game, fixed so that the cloud servers know what's going on.

[Iroquois]

 

 

 

GTA:O that they will add new cities to Online(only way this would work would be flying to them).

 

did they say this or are you just thinking that this is the only way it would work because of so that is disappointing

They did say they will expand to new cities in Online. As for how it will work, that was just my opinion, so the last bit on the "flying" is not true.

 

 

not once did they state that they are going to add any more cities or maps you moron

 

If you are so good at coding and got it all figured out go work for rockstar.

"Just code it so one tow truck can't tow another..."

Wow why didn't they think of that. Damn problem solved.

HEY ROCKSTAR, THIS GUYS GOT IT ALL WORKED OUT! Just fire your staff of 50+ coders that have been working on this game for half a decade and put op in the drivers seat. Yup no worries, he'll have heists ready by next week with ideas like this.

 

Wow..7 replies and only 2 of those were acceptable responses. R* did infact mention they would expand the world of GTA online. So calm down mosin nagant.

No stonedpimps, you are correct, i do not know how to code. However i do know that you are able to put things into codes like: "Do this for all {A, b , c....z} except for p". where p = tow truck in this example.

You do realize ppl are not examples of perfection. Just because someone doesnt think of something, that doesnt mean no one else can. Thats how the world works. Responses, feedbacks, suggedtions, criticism. You also didnt contribute anything like mosin nagant so dont bother posting.

If im sort of right, tell me and lets discuss why. If im dead wrong, tell me why and lets discuss it. You dont come into a damn thread with your sarcastic tones and vulgarity and condescension which doesnt add to anything creatively.

Acceptable responses? Somebody's a bit snobby

 

Okay why you're wrong:

 

Your main thesis was that SP doesn't lag with all these features so why would Online? Well, all of the things you see in SP are Local to your console, meaning that they can be accessed easily without any lag.

 

Online however is completely different. 98% of the things in GTA Online are stored on the Cloud Servers, your character, your garage, your cars, etc. Why would the Jet (747) lag, you ask? Because it was never intended for Online gameplay. The 747 was added to the game late in development, hence no entry animation, the simplistic and unrealistic handling and the name, Jet.

 

Why would they and the Cargo plane make the game lag? If you have, say 4 747s or Cargo Planes flying around that's a lot of things for the cloud servers to handle. Remember the Tug from GTA IV's online component? If any vehicle was touching the Tug, even another boat the game would have extreme lag. Why? Because it's a big thing to load.

 

Just wait, and we'll probably get a "Greetings from Los Santos/Vice City/San Fierro/Las Venturas/Liberty City DLC" (we haven't decid- I mean Rockstar Haven't decided on a name yet) which will hopefully include new aircraft (like the 747), new ships, new cars, camera as a weapon. Then it will be fixed to carry more than 1 person, an interior and a correct entry animation.

 

Be patient, and don't be rude, that's just rude

Ok thank you for explaining it. You'll notice i liked your post because i agree with your rebuttal, although not with the snobby bit.

I just said it the way i said it in my previous topic replies is because those other 2 were not contributing and were trying to be smart-alecs. The "snobbiness" or "rudeness" that you may have sensed was directed at mosin and stoned for their immaturity and stupidity which resulted in a waste of time for everyone.

Anyways back on topic, thanks for your reply. What do you think about the tow truck thing though?

 

okaly dokely. You just came off a little, rude in your post. But it's okay, this is the Online section after all

 

The tow trucks are different. For some reason they lag the game really badly when towing pretty much anything.

 

Probably they lag now because they don't exist in the cloud servers. They have to pull all those resources from everyone in the lobby's console. And when you're towing a tow truck (which ISO modders could get around the code you proposed which would stop a tow truck towing a tow truck) the game has to pull the data from everyone's consoles twice.

 

Rockstar will probably add them into the game, fixed so that the cloud servers know what's going on.

Oh ok. That makes sense. Thanks again.

[KoingWolf]

I would like a link to where they said they would add to GTA Online rather than make a new one. That seems like far too much trouble than what it's worth.

[Coin]

The airliner/boeing doesn't really cause lag online. The cargo plane can though.

[Ezza.]

I would like a link to where they said they would add to GTA Online rather than make a new one. That seems like far too much trouble than what it's worth.

http://www.totalxbox.com/60520/gta-online-will-expand-forever-rockstar-will-add-new-locations-including-old-stuff/

[KoingWolf]

 

I would like a link to where they said they would add to GTA Online rather than make a new one. That seems like far too much trouble than what it's worth.

http://www.totalxbox.com/60520/gta-online-will-expand-forever-rockstar-will-add-new-locations-including-old-stuff/

 

That seems to scream more, GTA: World type future game than expanding current GTA Online, especially considering, as stated, the memory limits. It's simply not possible to add so many different areas for PS3 and Xbox 360, unless you choose a starting point in one of the areas, all requiring a loading screen to transition to.

 

Basically, I think it's putting way too many expectations on an interview back when they were claiming an ever evolving world, investing in stocks, planning room, heists, and more that still have yet to come out.

 

I am professional buzz killer.

Edited March 23, 2014 by KoingWolf

[Coin]

 

 

I would like a link to where they said they would add to GTA Online rather than make a new one. That seems like far too much trouble than what it's worth.

http://www.totalxbox.com/60520/gta-online-will-expand-forever-rockstar-will-add-new-locations-including-old-stuff/

 

That seems to scream more, GTA: World type future game than expanding current GTA Online, especially considering, as stated, the memory limits. It's simply not possible to add so many different areas for PS3 and Xbox 360, unless you choose a starting point in one of the areas, all requiring a loading screen to transition to.

 

Basically, I think it's putting way too many expectations on an interview back when they were claiming an ever evolving world, investing in stocks, planning room, heists, and more that still have yet to come out.

 

I am professional buzz killer.

 

 

I think it is kind of obvious that, by default, any talk of new cities being added is that they would be in a worldspace separate to that of Los Santos' one. At least, that was always my conclusion anyway.

[Iroquois]

 

 

 

I would like a link to where they said they would add to GTA Online rather than make a new one. That seems like far too much trouble than what it's worth.

 

http://www.totalxbox.com/60520/gta-online-will-expand-forever-rockstar-will-add-new-locations-including-old-stuff/

 

That seems to scream more, GTA: World type future game than expanding current GTA Online, especially considering, as stated, the memory limits. It's simply not possible to add so many different areas for PS3 and Xbox 360, unless you choose a starting point in one of the areas, all requiring a loading screen to transition to.

 

Basically, I think it's putting way too many expectations on an interview back when they were claiming an ever evolving world, investing in stocks, planning room, heists, and more that still have yet to come out.

 

I am professional buzz killer.

 

I think it is kind of obvious that, by default, any talk of new cities being added is that they would be in a worldspace separate to that of Los Santos' one. At least, that was always my conclusion anyway.

You mean different server?

Recently i was just wondering, did those ppl that glitched into North Yankton in Online still see other players on their maps?

 

Btw, nice find ezza but i dont think that was the article i read. What i read was that they will continually expand GTA online so that the same Online could be accessed in any future games and that in the near future they may add new cities if they think the consoles can handle it (i think they were referring to ps3/xbox360 and not the new consoles).

 

In my opinion, they may add North yankton and perhaps liberty city again. Then they would probably save the new vice city map until they release GTA VIce City (most likely the next 1) in the far future for the new consoles.

Edited March 23, 2014 by Iroquois