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RyanBurnsRed

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Richard Power Colt

Well a lot of the space stations are probably gonna be filled with copy and pasted assets from stations like Olisar and Grim Hex. Once they've created enough assets for the game they should be able to create new space stations a lot faster.

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RyanBurnsRed

I believe you are correct and that is the plan. Once they get the core gameplay systems in place it'll be easier and faster to get assets out.

What I'm waiting for the most are purchasable ingame ships, but I don't think that'll be for awhile.

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El Dildo

Once they've created enough assets for the game...

how much money do they have again?

how long have they been working on this??

 

Star Citizen is a ponzi scheme if I've ever seen one :lol:

I feel sorry for people who poured money into this black hole.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/14715-CIG-Employees-Talk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escapist-podcast/57500-Crowdfunding-Podcast

http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/07/interstellar-discourse/

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deadx23

 

Once they've created enough assets for the game...

how much money do they have again?

how long have they been working on this??

 

Star Citizen is a ponzi scheme if I've ever seen one :lol:

I feel sorry for people who poured money into this black hole.

 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/14715-CIG-Employees-Talk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escapist-podcast/57500-Crowdfunding-Podcast

http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/07/interstellar-discourse/

They raised $119 million

They started on 2013

 

Like any game they have to make it wich could take years,how long did GTA v take to make? only difference with star citizen they let us play while they make it plus their making 2 games (star citizen and squadron 42)

 

I disagree

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El Dildo

yeah m8 because his rambling diatribe is almost all the evidence you need of his deep paranoia, which makes it all the more believable when you read the in-depth Escapist investigation citing numerous insiders and former employees, not to mention internal documents and emails. they also elaborate on these details in the aforementioned podcast.

 

I didn't link it for sh/ts and giggles.

it provides a narrative.

 

https://popehat.com/2015/10/04/in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-threaten-lawsuits/

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-collapse-of-star-citizen.html

 

this is a ponzi scheme until they prove otherwise.

they kept changing the Terms of Service agreement, pushing back the release date for people who bought-in on Kickstarter, denying them the refunds that they were initially promised. and that's only the most transparent aspect of their numerous suspicious transgressions. they would spend astronomical amounts of cash on A-list Hollywood actors to do voiceovers for Star Citizen commercials and to perform motion capture. literal waste of money. top execs inside SC also embezzled capital from crowdfunding in order to purchase homes and cars.

 

they kept extending the stretch goals after originally telling people that the game would be released in 2014... then 2015... then 2016...

 

people think Derek Smart is an asshole, and that makes sense, but it doesn't make the facts that he's pointing to incorrect. I don't have to agree with everything about Derek Smart in order to acknowledge blatant facts that he's uncovered. don't shoot the messenger, listen to the message.

 

...or just bury your head in the sand m8

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Candy_Licker

yeah m8 because his rambling diatribe is almost all the evidence you need of his deep paranoia, which makes it all the more believable when you read the in-depth Escapist investigation citing numerous insiders and former employees, not to mention internal documents and emails. they also elaborate on these details in the aforementioned podcast.

 

I didn't link it for sh/ts and giggles.

it provides a narrative.

 

https://popehat.com/2015/10/04/in-space-no-one-can-hear-you-threaten-lawsuits/

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-collapse-of-star-citizen.html

 

this is a ponzi scheme until they prove otherwise.

they kept changing the Terms of Service agreement, pushing back the release date for people who bought-in on Kickstarter, denying them the refunds that they were initially promised. and that's only the most transparent aspect of their numerous suspicious transgressions. they would spend astronomical amounts of cash on A-list Hollywood actors to do voiceovers for Star Citizen commercials and to perform motion capture. literal waste of money. top execs inside SC also embezzled capital from crowdfunding in order to purchase homes and cars.

 

they kept extending the stretch goals after originally telling people that the game would be released in 2014... then 2015... then 2016...

 

people think Derek Smart is an asshole, and that makes sense, but it doesn't make the facts that he's pointing to incorrect. I don't have to agree with everything about Derek Smart in order to acknowledge blatant facts that he's uncovered. don't shoot the messenger, listen to the message.

 

...or just bury your head in the sand m8

 

 

Dude, Escapist really has no credibility whatsoever anymore. Thoroughly researched? :lol: They really fell on their noses with this, no wonder when you have to lay off any journalists with any credibility and replace them with a bunch of ranting amateurs.

 

http://www.zenofdesign.com/whats-going-on-with-the-escapist/

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-03-29-layoffs-at-the-escapist

 

And any word about Smart is wasted. He's on a personal crusade, spreading rumours about Robert's wife being racist, having a porn history, posting private adresses and pictures of his children. I'm also very scepitical about this whole project, since Robert's is a bit of a megalomaniac, but Smart is a sad cretin and internet troll. He's a horrible developer, and and even worse human being.

 

He's even been caught photoshopping an article to support his diatribes

 

http://pureplaystation.com/petty-developer-photoshops-our-mass-effect-andromeda-article-to-bash-star-citizen/2016/08/

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El Dildo

Escapist really has no credibility whatsoever anymore.

says who?

you guys haven't countered any of the points I've raised about their shady business practices. you've just assaulted the character of Smart and the reputation of the editors at Escapist; neither of whom I'm necessarily defending but neither of which refutes any of the issues at hand. I don't care about Smart. I don't know the people at Escapist. but they're talking about real sh/t. their criticism isn't fabrication. the retroactive TOS agreements, the denials of refunds, the personal gains under the guise of "promotional spending," they didn't make this stuff up.

 

you're getting the wrong idea here.

I would love for Star Citizen to be a real thing that they actually finish. I would buy it and play it. but there's way more evidence on the side of money laundering than there is on the side of a serious developer trying to release a serious product. I would love to be proven wrong.

 

I'd pay full price + a season pass.

but so far I'm done holding my breath. SC is like a graduate student who doesn't want to finish college, just soaking up the student loans.

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RyanBurnsRed

 

 

This isn't the update with Star Marine is it? Is that in 2.6?

 

Edit: Yeah it is. I just checked

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deadx23

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Candy_Licker

 

Escapist really has no credibility whatsoever anymore.

says who?

you guys haven't countered any of the points I've raised about their shady business practices. you've just assaulted the character of Smart and the reputation of the editors at Escapist; neither of whom I'm necessarily defending but neither of which refutes any of the issues at hand. I don't care about Smart. I don't know the people at Escapist. but they're talking about real sh/t. their criticism isn't fabrication. the retroactive TOS agreements, the denials of refunds, the personal gains under the guise of "promotional spending," they didn't make this stuff up.

 

you're getting the wrong idea here.

I would love for Star Citizen to be a real thing that they actually finish. I would buy it and play it. but there's way more evidence on the side of money laundering than there is on the side of a serious developer trying to release a serious product. I would love to be proven wrong.

 

I'd pay full price + a season pass.

but so far I'm done holding my breath. SC is like a graduate student who doesn't want to finish college, just soaking up the student loans.

 

 

lmao.

Apart from discriminatory hiring practices and racism (which coincidentally falls in line with Smart's continued character assasination), money laundering and embezzlement are serious allegations, and you better could back them up. Sadly, all they have is these "anonymous sources", and we don't even have information in which departments they worked. What would a regular employee know about the companies/Robert's private financial situation? Their line of argumentation basicially boils down to Robert' "has a nice house and cars so he must be embezzeling money". Where and what is this "way more evidence on the side of money laundering"?

 

There's certainly a reason why this story would be offered various publications, yet nobody would else pick it up. Various claims about the project - like that they would close their studio in Austin, have not come true.

 

Obviously many of those who are now going crazy and follow Smart's bs are people who don't have a clue about the development of big games these days - that any decent game can take up to 5+ years (I mean, we are at a forum dedicated to the GTA games), and that SC has the disadvantage of having to announce their project before development even started (and before they even set up the company) , while other companies only announce their games shortly before release. Ofc, impatient little gamers who want everything here and now can't understand that.

 

Like I said, I'm also very sceptical about the game - because of it's sheer scope, they want to do everything at once - a shooter, space sim, single + multiplayer game, all while having to release and support alpha demos etc... But I don't know how far they are behind the scenes apart from their alpha releases, and I don't follow their monthly reports because I'm no backer. If you have doubts about the game, this is perfectly understandable. But the personal attacks, trolling campaigns and sensationalist claims about money laundering etc - driven mainly by the infamous Derek Smart, are no way for a fair discussion.

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RyanBurnsRed

2.5 is live!

 

Time to steal all the Freelancers! And Constellations, and Hornets, and Avengers, and any other ship I can get my hands on :pirate:

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Richard Power Colt

I wanna steal a Starfarer and just crash it into something.

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deadx23

Sweet! thanks for the info

 

heres a tip: keep a look out on the landing platforms on grim hex some campers on there :lol:

 

if you can't find It commit a crime like turn off one of the stations :D and you will spawn there after you die

 

 

I wanna steal a Starfarer and just crash it into something.

Haha I want to park next to a starfarer and initiate self destruct :p

 

 

 

Argo is on concept sale that means it has life time insurance,so I'm going to melt my game package re-buy the mustang + SC and squadron 42 package (I had upgraded to the Gladius) and buy the argo to upgrade it for the Gladius so I can have the lti on it :)

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Ship Scale

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Old Starfarer (smaller than today version) for comparison

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Richard Power Colt

Is the Retribution actually something they plan on being flyable in the universe? I know the Bengal is supposed to be something you can find and then fix and fly with a big group, but the size of the Retribution is just insane. It'll probably be featured in Squadron 42 in one form or another at least.

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Inky

I bought an Argo last night. It's been a lot of fun flying this little guy around Olisar and trying not to crash :p

 

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Edit - A couple more

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deadx23

Today's video "reverse the verse" I bought a dragonfly a few weeks ago (concept sale) looks awesome its not out yet though but I think it will be out on 3.0

 

 

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MadHammerThorsteen

I just wanted to drop in to say that at about the same time I got a bad vibe from No Man's Sky (I'd say about 5 or so months ago), I got the same vibe from Star Citizen. So far, my instinct is 1 for 1.

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deadx23

I just wanted to drop in to say that at about the same time I got a bad vibe from No Man's Sky (I'd say about 5 or so months ago), I got the same vibe from Star Citizen. So far, my instinct is 1 for 1.

I've been following SC for a while now they make videos every week 3 times a week showing their progress and they actually show some stuff they are working on.they have a long list of youtube videos of episodes from years past,they are transparent in what they do and they have achieved goals they wanted to reach some not in the time frame they wanted but still meeting those goals.the part I love on the videos is that they take questions from members of their website in real time through twich, although they could answer only relevant questions from the employees they get on like the video I posted it was the art director and the other guy (wich he gives out good info from the game) their proof of there progress is all out there on their website and YouTube channel, I can't wait for the game is complete, I am enjoying the alpha we can play now.:) Edited by deadx23

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Candy_Licker

A late adendum to the discussion a few weeks ago, this is how you do serious, thorough journalism: http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/23/inside-the-troubled-development-of-star-citizen

This article adresses the troubled development of SC, yet the difference between this and the slander published by The Escapist is like night and day.

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Static

Kotaku and journalism being used in the same sentence...lol

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El Dildo

Kotaku doesn't have to be the BBC in order to report accurate information...

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Static

Never said they had to be, but Kotaku and Gawker media as a whole, are notoriously biased.

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deadx23

Cool ^^^

 

I've been at the verse this weekend got to try some ships :D

[M80] (I think lol) super fast

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[Warden] I didn't like this one doesn't handle well

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[Mustang Delta] rockets was not working

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[Retaliator] big not huge no cannons but homing missile or torpedos you cannot escape every lock on is a guarantee hit well kind of.i was dogfighting a pirate I shoot the missile and I shot it when the pirate made a u turn so the missile over shoot made a u turn and here is my mistake I made a quick u turn to blast the pirate with my cannons but I didn't realize I was in-between the missile and the pirate I blew myself up on one hit lol I had full shields so it was a big missile

 

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Here is some interior

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Torpedo room with my new suit

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Left one of my ships in space :lol: changing ship

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[Argo] And this is one of my ships I am going to change it though

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I forget the name of this one but it's cool looking

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I was also decorating my hanger :lol:

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I was reading this on the website

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13288-Multiple-Package-Clarification

Makes me want to get another package :D

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