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darthYENIK

Gotham the Batman prequel TV show

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Queen

I thought his name was Richard Sionis in Gotham. Perhaps he has a son with the name of Roman? Otherwise, it's just wrong if they actually killed off Black Mask prematurely.

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Mr. Scratch

Huh, apparently it is Richard, still a sh*t idea having him as basically Black Mask though.

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krashr

the letter from bruce's father was weird and dumb.. i felt way more emotion from the very short letter at the end of flashpoint paradox

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Mr. Scratch

He could've made it a lot shorter.

 

"Dear Bruce, bla bla, I'm dead, bla bla, sh*t about money, become a masked vigilante wink wink. Love, dead dad"

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IDredMan

Honestly, a lot of the best Batman forms of media out there have all had Bruce's parents just give him some mystical guidance from beyond the grave or some sh*t. Like Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Year One.

This is basically Bruce's dad saying "Be happy or be Batman. Be Batman."

 

Also, didn't they say Batman would be on the show at least once? I'm looking forward to seeing what a 12 year old Batman looks like.

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darthYENIK

You want a heart wrenching letter, read Batman Inc. #8, then read Batman And Robin #18. B&R 18 is a "silent" comic where the only words are...

a letter from Damian left in his locker before going off to the fight in Batman Inc.

 

 

Peter Tomasi is the great underrated Batman writer of our time.

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IDredMan

DC abides by the multiverse theory, the theory that there's an infinite amount of universes and that anything that can happen, will happen.

But there isn't a single f*cking universe where that 'Maniax!' sh*t would have worked.

And I don't think they had monitors that flat and that black back when PC towers were that big.

 

From the technological stuff (Sometimes even inconsistent,) I'd say this show takes place 10-30 years ago. Which is weird, cause fire was discovered by then. So I'm not sure why lighters don't work. Why not just shoot the gasoline? Why not hold the lighter up to the gasoline and trying? Even if it fails, the spark will still ignite it. Ah, who am I to ask questions about the logic of this f*cking show?

 

Funny how, ever since the Nolan trilogy, every single portrayal (Gotham, Arkham Knight, etc) of Lucius Fox has been a black guy doing a Morgan Freeman impression.

I'm also gonna need subtitles for Alfred's Cockney bullsh*t. Tock'd 'im up loike a kippa? What the f*ck am I listening to?

 

God, I hate Barbara. I can only imagine the conversation that went between her and the boss guy.

One is insane for no reason and the other is evil for no reason. But he had to have had at least some sense. That's her and that other guy, two capable hands, taken away from their operation to beat up, not kill, her ex-boyfriend, the man they wanna kill.

Can anyone else see what's wrong with that? And how f*cking incompetent can the GCPD be? a couple of f*cking guys with guns take out all those f*cking cops? Are you f*cking kidding me? And who were those people? If that guy has henchmen, why does he need crazy people? Henchmen can be controlled, crazy people can't (If all the villain team-ups with the Joker taught us anything).

And am I the only one who sooorta likes Jeromeker? I don't like that he's there, but there's a spark of flamboyancy in him that reminds me of Hammil's Joker... Sometimes.

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Mr. Scratch

So far Jerome reminds me more of Ledger's Joker, especially with that whole "good evening ladies and gentlemen" thing.

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Queen

Jerome reminds me of both Hamill and Ledger. "Good evening ladies and gentlemen" was clearly done as a nod to The Dark Knight. There were also plenty of nods to Hamill's joker. Particularly in Jerome's wide ranged voice, lots of lows and then highs in his voice. Awesome performance. In fact, I'm liking his character more than I thought I would, as I believe it's too early for his character to fully emerge. My theory is that the script writers know something we don't. Perhaps the show is going to get canceled, and they're trying to tell as much as they can in what little time they have left.

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darthYENIK

I don't know why they didn't just make a Batman TV show. They obviously are desperate to make this show as close to a Batman show as they can get. Right now, all this show needs is Batman, and it's the beginning of a Batman story arc.

 

That's the main reason why I can't fully enjoy this show. This show can't have a satisfying ending. Gotham is supposed to get worse and worse. This Gordon character, if the producers are serious about not having Batman ever, or maybe just the last scene of the show, this Gordon will never win. Should never win. A big reason why this time period in Batman's life is interesting, is it's connection to "modern" day stories.

 

I don't know, I am still in this attitude that I wouldn't be watching this if it wasn't Batman.

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Mr. Scratch

I would, it's all kinds of weird and I love it for it.

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Queen

Did anyone else think that Alfred was hitting on Lucius at the bar? I thought for sure they were going to go find a hotel room or something. :p

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IDredMan

How long has it been since there's been a good Batman TV show?

I know Brave and the Bold shined sometimes where the writers did their homework and touched you in all the right ways... But I sorta found that you had to dig too deep to find those moments.

So that would be... Batman Beyond, right? I haven't seen The Batman but I didn't hear good things.

 

And yeah, after that bar scene, I was just waiting for the Alfred x Lucius fanfics.

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darthYENIK

Beware the Batman started slow, but it showed potential. But was quickly canned.

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Mr. Scratch

I thought we were talking about a live action show, not a cartoon.

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IDredMan

Honestly, when it comes to good superhero shows... I'll take what I can get.

Plus, a live action Batman show might not work out... It would have to have a large budget to capture the theatricality of it. If it's animated, the scale of the action doesn't really matter, cause an explosion takes the same about of effort as drawing a bush... So they can go wild. Plus... Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill would also be welcome.

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Mr. Scratch

Well there's always the animated films. Hopefully they start doing the Killing Joke one soon. Yenik, are there any issues that go a bit more in depth about Gordon's early days with the GCPD?

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UshaB

I liked the episodes for, "Brave and the Bold" but I don't like that cartoon style.

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"The Batman" is probably my favourite version. Although quite "kid-ish".

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As for favourite Batman style, that would go to, "Young Justice" version. Wish that show was still going :/

 

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What about you?

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darthYENIK

Well there's always the animated films. Hopefully they start doing the Killing Joke one soon. Yenik, are there any issues that go a bit more in depth about Gordon's early days with the GCPD?

Besides Year One and the New 52 Zero Year arc, I can't think of any. But don't let that dissuade you. I'm sure there's some thing out there on the subject.

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Queen

Well...I sort of saw it coming, but I was still surprised. Great to see they're not giving us a definitive Joker story. It'll keep us guessing, or start annoying us...not sure which yet. :p

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darthYENIK

They played a bit with the fact that historically, in the comics, Leslie Tompkins and Alfred have a romantic relationship.

 

I kind of like what they did with Jerome. At least he's not the Joker.

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Queen

Shows how much I know. I'm still frustrated with the fact that Barbara is completely insane. I doubt her and Jim will ever hook up again, which is what's supposed to happen, according to the comics (or at least the ones I've read). As for Leslie, I thought she was a character made for the show. Looks like I need to take a trip to the comic book store.

 

Overall, I quite like how this season is shaping up. I was pretty much on the edge of my seat in the previous two episodes.

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Mr. Scratch

I kind of like what they did with Jerome. At least he's not the Joker.

 

I think it was sort of similar to the Red Hood thing, not necessarily in the show but in the comics as well, how Todd took up the Red Hood persona basically.

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darthYENIK

That's the thing. What they are saying is that both Red Hood and this crazy laughing thing inspires people to become those personas. The Joker, the REAL Joker, becomes possessed, or inspired, by both these personas. First Red Hood, then he falls into acid, and then he becomes Joker.

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IDredMan

"I know it's not how we rehearsed. I'm sorry Jerome, you had real talent... But the plot thickens."

That is literally the show talking to the actor.

 

Also, the love triangle between Theo, Barbara and Theo's sister seems straight out of a bad fanfiction. Let's hope the makers of the show actually straight up forget they ever thought of the idea.

They should have cut out the ending... It was literally a bunch of extras doing their worst fake laughs.

 

But hey, this episode didn't make me wanna kill myself... And the Alfred hitting on Leslie thing was amusing to watch, especially for how it ended.

 

 

And now it's time for them to replace Jerome with Joseph 'Ker' Kerman. Because that's how subtle they are.

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UshaB

dun dUN DUNNNN!!!!!

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krashr

oh happy day, i like this bad guy and his neck stabbing tendencies. they let the loser go full ledger this episode and it was making me sick until bam! bye bye f*cker. made me smile. the ending was a bit naff though

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Queen

Did Alred just hit a girl? What?!

 

But anyway, that was a great episode. The plot has really thickened, and I'm loving it. And in case anyone missed it, looks like Firefly will be in the next episode.

 

Also, I just found out that 'Pee-wee Herman' will be Penguin's father.

 

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I'm serious. Check it out.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-reubens-to-reprise-batman-character-on-gotham/

 

He's actually played the role before.

 

 

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darthYENIK

Yeah, Alfred back handing Selina was kind of f*cked up.

 

Other than that, a pretty boring episode, if you ask me. What happened? Bruce meets Silver St Cloud, Chiklis comes in, and we see Penguin work with the new bad guy who I keep forgetting his name.

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Mr. Scratch

Theo Lavander something.

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