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darthYENIK

Gotham the Batman prequel TV show

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Queen

I thought the finale was great. Seeing the culmination of Penguin's manipulation of the families alone was well worth the wait. It was great to see Penguin rise to the top, even if he stumbled a few times. As for Barbara...damn she's a crazy girl. Perhaps I'm a little rusty on the Batman universe, but isn't Jim Gordon supposed to marry her eventually? If so, it'll take a lot of character development to get her there.

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krashr

edit- ^yes, he eventually marries barbara

 

i'm back to disliking, that finale was lame imo. wtf at fish's tryhard mad max makeover and selina suddenly somehow got narfier. feels like the show wants to see how fans react to fish's new look and "death" and are keeping it open to maybe bring her back, which would suck, this episode was 20 million times worse just because she was in it. barbara's flip out felt dumb. is anyone in the entire police force wondering why the cop nygma killed hasn't been showing up to work? penguin's "i'm the king of the world" moment.. gah. also, maroni is dead already?

 

start of season kickass gordon

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end of season gumby gordon

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please don't bring back fish

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Mr. Scratch

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/gotham-boss-bruno-heller-season-792824?adbid=1047020358661287&adbpl=fb&adbpr=693029617393698&cmpid=social_publicity_Gotham_20150507_45328326&short_code=2y1tk

 

"We're going to find out how the hell Jerome, the proto-Joker we met earlier in this season, connects with the Joker as people known him. That's the big focus of the beginning of the second season. We're going to tell the story of how the Joker came to be," Heller says, before pausing and adding, "That's teaser enough, I think."

 

Is he that f*cking stupid?

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darthYENIK

Just when I started to enjoy this show.

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CrysisAverted

 

 

please don't bring back fish

 

She fell in the water, of course that wouldn't kill someone named fish

Penguin should have ate her

 

 

 

 

 

but they should f*ckoff with this Joker origin story

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Queen

The Joker origin story has been told many times in different ways. I don't see a problem with this, other than his origin story is coming too soon. For example, one of the problems with The Dark Knight Rises was that they had already used up the greatest villain of all time in The Dark Knight. How do you outdo that? The answer was Bane, who was in many ways a more formidable opponent, but he could never live up to the legend that was The Joker. I think it'd be better if every once in a while they feature The Joker, but instead of spoon feeding us his upbringing, they leave us with big questions so he maintains his mystique.

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krashr

yeah i'm out

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Mr. Scratch

They already did his f*cking origin. What, is the show going to follow him through puberty and his angsty teenage sh*t?

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krashr

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krashr

this is how they are currently promoting season 1 here in aus-

 

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and this is the info blurb-

 

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personally i feel it should read like this-

 

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respekt my mad paint skillz

 

focusing on that "joker" as a big part of next season.. i'd rather watch another entire season of fish. they really had such a good opportunity to make something cool of their own with the way they started with penguin, but no, let's do more crap jokerboy because joker. blek

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IDredMan

Did I miss something? Are they actually making a season 2 based on the Joker? Did they actually give Fox enough blowjobs to get a season 2?

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krashr

look a few posts above

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darthYENIK

Well. The show is premiering tomorrow. Not really excited by the "rise of the villains" bullsh*t.

 

I would like the focus to be squarely on Gordon, and if they insist... Bruce.

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Queen

It's premiering tomorrow? Wow!

 

 

 

Looks good.

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Mr. Scratch

At this rate Gotham won't even need Batman. Which is funny considering that Ben McKenzie voiced Bats in Batman Year One.

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Vik

What i'm interested in is whether or not "the origin" of Joker will be canon.

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Mr. Scratch

What i'm interested in is whether or not "the origin" of Joker will be canon.

 

To what?

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AlienTwo

 

What i'm interested in is whether or not "the origin" of Joker will be canon.

 

To what?

 

Exactly. They shouldn't be doing this at all... there is no Joker without Batman.

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Dutch Psycho

Aaah september. The start of new seasons of my favourite tv series. Gotham is the first one.

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Queen

 

 

What i'm interested in is whether or not "the origin" of Joker will be canon.

 

To what?

 

Exactly. They shouldn't be doing this at all... there is no Joker without Batman.

 

I agree. The only way I'd be slightly ok with them developing the Joker would be if the story is somehow entangled with Bruce's development.

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darthYENIK

I forgot Barbara was crazy. The reminder upsets me. So does her stupid f*cking prison dress.

 

Weak ass premiere, in my opinion.

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krashr

lol. i'll probably watch it tonight. why do we do this to ourselves

 

*insert gif of person banging head against wall here*

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darthYENIK

I was thinking that. Sometime my love for Batman, takes me places I don't want to go. Like the Bruckheimer Batman movies, or any Frank Miller Batman after The Dark Knight Returns.

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Queen

Man, that just makes the series feel "wishy washy." I can't tell if it's all planned out, or they're just throwing sh*t at the wall to see if it sticks, and if it doesn't, they'll go "that was supposed to happen!"

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the series, but sometimes I wonder...

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darthYENIK

They're definitely sh*t walling. Nobody liked Barbara, they bring in doc Thompson. Not enough Bruce, they put in more Bruce. Not "Batman" enough, they bring in these proto-villains.

 

It definitely has a vibe that they have no idea where they want the story to go.

 

Edit: this could change my mind...

 

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IDredMan

I watch this show even though I can't imagine a version of it where it works.

It would have either been faithful to the Batman lore, and it would have been unbearably boring. Or it would have bent things a little at the cost of infinitely awesome things in the future.

 

Let's take this, for example. People liked the Joker, it was a small burst of pretty-goodness that people enjoyed.

Now picture this, Bruce and Jerome grow up. Jerome dons the outfit of the Red Hood, Bruce becomes the Bat... And they have their fateful encounter at Ace Chemicals.

Bruce causes Jerome to fall into a vat of acid... And to Bruce, that counts as a murder... His first murder, for that matter. And months later, the Joker steps into the spotlight... Skin bleached and hair dyed by the acid from Ace Chemicals. The crazed Joker kills everyone, and when Batman stops him, he doesn't kill him... Why? Because the Joker is the living breathing incarnation of what a world with a murderous Batman looks like. He caused him to become insane and... Oh wait, nevermind. Jerome's been insane all along. Welp, might as well kill the Joker, suffocate Freeze, snap Penguin's neck, burn Two-Face's other half, shoot Bane in the back of the head and rip Poison Ivy's head off.

 

I'm not all caught up on comics, I only read the important stuff. So when I saw that they made a movie about Flashpoint Paradox, I took the easy way out. So forgive me if what I got from the movie doesn't match the comics.

But Flashpoint Paradox has Thomas Wayne as the Batman and Martha Wayne as the Joker. Now that is a Joker that isn't Batman's fault, and that is a Batman that never experience the consequences of killing.

 

 

This is like the eighth time I've ranted about the exact same Joker thing, but it's just that time of the year, guys.

 

 

 

Also, aren't prisons gender segregated? Why is Barbara in jail with a sh*tload of male inmates? Or are they implying there was an ulterior motif Jim had for leaving her?

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Mr. Scratch

Exactly, I can't remember which comics it was but Alfred once took up the role of the Joker. Right now I don't think they give a sh*t about the show being canon to anything. Didn't they basically just kill off Black Mask?

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IDredMan

Well, they killed off this abomination of nature.

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Mr. Scratch

Wasn't he Black Mask though? His name was Roman Sionis so...

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