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darthYENIK

Gotham the Batman prequel TV show

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Ash_735

Remember when this was supposed to be a Cop/Detective show? That seemed to have dropped off after the first four episodes in favour of Villain Kids Club and TV Mafia Stories.

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darthYENIK

The mob stories I get, because that was what Gotham City was before all of the weirdos and Batman. Think Chicago, New York, and Boston at their most mobby. Corruption from top to bottom.

 

It would be an intriguing story if they did it right. The right way being Gordon being partners with someone who is full on corrupt (Flass in the comics), and not being so resolute to be the good cop. At least not just yet. At this point he should be slightly corrupt. Because that's how things work in this time in Gotham City. Bullock should be a rookie, going down the path to make him the next Flass.

 

My point is, Gordon has it too easy. He has support from Bullock and Essen (not to mention how Essen would be better used as she is in the comics, as Gordon's second wife), and he is having no real issues busting mob schemes. He should be getting that taste of dirt. A taste that makes him sick of himself and who he's become. Not macking on hot Doc Thompson. He should be getting chewed up and spit out.

 

At this rate, we don't need Batman. Gotham City will be clean by the time Bruce is an adult. And then with these future villains, the big chicken and egg question of Batman will have an answer. Because it can't be Batman who inspires his own enemies, they're already f*cked up. Personally I never like to believe that Batman created his rogues gallery, but the question should always be there.

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Dukestboy

Am I the only one who likes this show? :(

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AlienTwo

You'd think Fox would think so... 3 weeks off without a word about it???

 

But... no, I like it.

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darthYENIK

I'm just a fanboy, and am highly critical of Batman.

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IDredMan

And I'm an asshole, anti-social, introvert, Self-hating, hypocritical dick who only reflects my lonely sadness and depression outwards on the internet which is the only place where no one can touch me and also sadly literally the only place where I have friends who like me... I'm also not a big fan of this show but I'm only hanging around for the occasional moments when the mob wars kick ass and hate almost everything else.

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krashr

i think i have a love/hate relationship with this show. like a bad ex that i keep going back to because the sex is good, for every 10 minutes of blissful joy it brings, comes half an hour of "why am i here?"

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darthYENIK

i think i have a love/hate relationship with this show. like a bad ex that i keep going back to because the sex is good, for every 10 minutes of blissful joy it brings, comes half an hour of "why am i here?"

Yeah. You keep coming back because you hope it will be that thing that you wished it would be, but all you get is disappointment.

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AlienTwo

So what... has this f*cking show been canceled?

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IDredMan

I think they quietly cancelled it and no one noticed.

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darthYENIK

This long break is because the network ordered more episodes, so the producers are scrambling to make the most out of it. Hopefully they are seeing what they've done wrong and fixing it.

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AlienTwo

There is always hope. And hell, at least we have the Flash and (soon) Daredevil.

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Queen

I think it comes back on April 15th, but I'm not sure. Personally, this show is everything I had hoped for and more. I am surprised to read that many of you don't like it. But hey, to each their own.

 

I love seeing what the city was like before Batman. It goes against the idea that it was Batman's theatricality (and madness) that inspired the likes of Joker, Two Face, and the Riddler. Here we see that they were always there. To me, that's refreshing.

Edited by Killer Queen

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AlienTwo

I like the show, a lot in fact, I just was hoping for more of a "GCPD Blue" than "Batman Babies." So many of the characters are already their fully formed adult selves just in kid's bodies that it doesn't leave as much room for growth into the awesome Catwoman, Batman or Riddler than there could be. I'd rather see a grieving child Bruce Wayne than an already decidedly Batman Bruce Wayne, minus the outfit and training. I don't see this 11 year old kid really getting into Jr. Executive mode so soon after the death of both of his parents.

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IDredMan

I'm just awkwardly waiting for the mafia sections. And kinda wanting Cobblepot to change the name of Fish's casino to the Iceberg Lounge.

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AlienTwo

I just want Fish out of the damn show. She's already out of the damn plot...

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Queen

I have a theory that Fish will be killed at the hands of Penguin. Her name is a dead giveaway. Penguins eat fish.

 

 

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DrAnomalous

I never cared about the show when it first came out. Never intended on watching it. I had a disinterest because of the usual "no Batman" :cry: complaint. Then when it was about 11 episodes in I left my TV on FOX, and an episode came on. And that's pretty much how I got hooked on the stuff.

 

 

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darthYENIK

Not gonna lie. I've come to terms with Bruce Wayne junior detective, and I enjoyed this episode. I don't care about Fish, still, but I really liked the scene in the "shooting gallery".

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IDredMan

Am I... Sexist?

I don't think I am, but this show makes me feel like it.

I like women. I think they deserve rights. I can watched female led movies. I can play games with female protagonists. I don't feel sexist.

 

Then why do I hate every single female on this show? Selina. Barbara. Fish. I would feel nothing but joy if they died.

Really. Barbara. What the f*ck has Barbara done that is SOOOOOOOOOOO bad that people just run screaming when they see the real her? f*cking Barbara... Her kind belong on Facebook.

 

There's a handful of obnoxious male characters here but... Nothing on that level.

 

Fish wasn't here though, that's an instant plus.

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Queen

I enjoyed the latest episode. The Ogre had my complete attention, and I was completely taken aback when it turned out that his eyes were set on Barbara, who just so happens to be really, really kinky. It's difficult to imagine Gordon getting back together with her. She is one crazy, unstable girl. However, I would be remiss if I didn't say that I enjoyed her presence in this episode.

 

It was also nice to see Ed Nigma coming out of his shell and into the realm of homicidal maniac, even if the build up was kind of cliche.

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darthYENIK

Best episode in a long time. No coinsidance that it didn't have Fish.

 

I'm totally shipping Bruce and Selina. I've always been a Batman/Catwoman shipper.

 

I don't know about Nigma stabbing someone to death. Isn't his style. I don't expect an elaborate Riddler murder at this point, but I am off put by him just flat out stabbing someone.

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krashr

it wasn't a bad ep.. no fish was great, but a few things still got to me. i'm over the penguin's mother scenes, they just aren't getting them right imo. i didn't mind catgirl and bruce boy, but i wish bruce would stop pulling his sook about to cry face every time something happens. the fifty shades part with babs and ogre was amusing. it was good to see "riddle man" do some stabbing, but i can't help feeling when he eventually goes full riddler there should be no excuse for gordon to not know who he is, having worked in such close proximity for so long

 

edit- regarding your comment darth about it being out of character to have riddler stabbing someone, i felt the same initially, then thought maybe this is how he got a taste for it and he likes it, but it's not enough for him and next time he wants to plan it out better and draw it out longer with riddles for more pleasure or something like that maybe, but i'm possibly giving more credit to the writers than they are due, i think i'm just trying to cling to something

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krashr

building from last week's episode, i thought the latest one was actually not too bad! finally. gordon kicked a bit of ass and had a bit of a return to form, nygma had a nice amount of insane mixed with riddling, penguin had a good plan that came to fruition and that montage at the end was a nice little precursor for things to come.

 

they have started playing the season again from the start on regular tv and i caught a bit of it the other night.. i was reminded that it did have potential when it started and the first episode had a bit of something to build from, but didn't. hopefully after the success of daredevil the show's masters have a bit of a rethink on what works and write some good stuff for future episodes. i still haven't lost all hope..

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Queen

I thought last night's episode was awesome. Some people seem to be disappointed that we didn't get to see more between the Ogre and Barbara, but whatever. I thought it was well told, and I loved how it ended with a broken Barbara. But what I really loved was Penguin's further manipulation of the families. He's young and brilliant, and possibly my favorite villain in the series so far. Next week's episode looks like a real shoot out. Looking forward to seeing the families clash. Bring it on!

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Mista J

f*ckig aye, arcs have made this show a lot better compared to the one shots. I liked the show anyways, but improvement obviously doesn't hurt.

 

Can't wait until next week. Penguin waddling with a giant machine gun, and what looks like his final showdown with Fish. Robin Lord Taylor is the GOAT Cobblepot. Would not mind him at all in the DC Film Universe.

 

Still my favorite scene in the show.

 

Edited by .JokeR

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IDredMan

That guy is bad with the ladies, man!

He told her we wanted to kill her... But he should have at least waited until day 7 or 8 to reveal all his other victims to her. Not smooth at all, man!

 

But seriously though, this was a decent episode.

The Ogre is pretty interesting compared everything else this show has thrown at us.

And I've always been a fan of the mob element in the story.

 

It's been so long since I smiled about something in Gotham. Really liked how the ending teases what's to come.

 

 

 

FINALE EDIT:

 

That was beautiful!

 

Thank you, Gotham!

YOU TOOK SO LONG TO PAY OFF.

HALF OF IT WAS IRRELEVANT.

BUT YOU DID IT

AND IT WAS GREAT!

I LOVE YOU GOTHAM.

IT WAS ABOUT 10 EPISODES TOO LONG BECAUSE FOX WANTED THE MONEY BUT IT WAS STILL GOOD KINDA!

I LOVE IT!

Edited by IDredMan

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darthYENIK

Fish is dead!!!

 

And Batcave, otherwise, meh.

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Mr. Scratch

Fish is dead!!!

 

 

I doubt it.

 

Also, did you know that the guy who plays Gordon voiced Batman in Batman: Year One?

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IDredMan

Well, at least I tried to avoid spoilers but now I realize that no one cares.

But yeah, there's no way Fish is dead. Falling into water is TV's way of gaining viewers by killing off a major character but bringing them back later.

I also ignored the Barbara stuff which was... So forced.

 

It was a good episode and I still love it. But overall it took too long to pay off. My last post was in the heat of the moment but what I said about this being 10 episodes too long still applies. Gotham would have left a much better taste in my mouth if it didn't have all the pointless filler.

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