Multi-Class and Open Class Cars

[vipprimo]

I had set-up an Impromptu Race with someone the other day. I was rocking the Jester and they had a Cheetah. He had already said he didn't have any modifications on it and sure enough the Jester won. I realized that I had also set a personal speed record for with it funny enough.

 

It got me thinking that some of these cars really don't just fit into one class or the other.

 

OPEN CLASS

There should be an OPEN Class which allows all the vehicles to compete in the race. I would add that the OPEN Class also DISALLOWS STOCK vehicles to compete, only CUSTOM ones.

 

MULTI-CLASS

At first the consideration was to allow some vehicles to compete in other classes, such as the Sentinel in Sport. I think the better option is having a MULTI-CLASS option. So it says STOCK ONLY and then says SUPER, SPORT, etc. then a class in the middle which mixes them. So a Coupe/Compact Class or Coupe/Super or Super/Sport.

 

I'm not really sure how they'd implement that really, but it just seems like a good idea.

 

 

[lordemperor]

It's a great idea in concept but the Bati 801 would just faceroll everything else.

[twannie1997]

I want to see this in regular races. Open-class, so you can bring any custom vehilce you'd like to the race, whether that's a bike or a supercar.

[darkwar854]

Play MCLA Online and you will see the problem.

[NikkoCharger]

Vans, Suv's, and Off-Road's should be able to race together.

[999bats]

i would love to try race my elegy or comet in a super car race would be awesome

[Ai®a©ob®a]

It's a great idea in concept but the Bati 801 would just faceroll everything else.

Everybody would just ram into the Motorcycle so they'd never stand a chance in passing dirty racers unless they started out in the lead from the start

[ChillerVapes]

I have a race called Sandking EXTREME and in the description I mention how it's designed for Sandkings only. If I leave custom vehicles on, people are able to choose ANY off road car even though they are disabled and then they end up rage quitting because they can't get past the water sections.

 

although I like the idea, they need to fix the current system 1st.

Edited March 19, 2014 by ChillerVapes

[GTAMYBABIES]

Isnt the rusty tornado in one class and the clean one in another?

 

Are they different in performance?

[LightningLord]

Play MCLA Online and you will see the problem.

KNOCKED OFF BIKE! But still it would be cool if we saw this happen.

[Jolly Swagman]

I have a race called Sandking EXTREME and in the description I mention how it's designed for Sandkings only. If I leave custom vehicles on, people are able to choose ANY off road car even though they are disabled and then they end up rage quitting because they can't get past the water sections.

 

although I like the idea, they need to fix the current system 1st.

Every time I have entered one of those races Ive used my Bohdi and left all the sandkings miles behind. Get enough speed up and a bohdi can go across any water that a sand king can.There normally is a bifta or biker who ends up quitting though

[NikkoCharger]

 

I have a race called Sandking EXTREME and in the description I mention how it's designed for Sandkings only. If I leave custom vehicles on, people are able to choose ANY off road car even though they are disabled and then they end up rage quitting because they can't get past the water sections.

 

although I like the idea, they need to fix the current system 1st.

Every time I have entered one of those races Ive used my Bohdi and left all the sandkings miles behind. Get enough speed up and a bohdi can go across any water that a sand king can.There normally is a bifta or biker who ends up quitting though

 

 

Bodhi master race at work....

Edited March 19, 2014 by NikkoCharger

[ChillerVapes]

 

 

I have a race called Sandking EXTREME and in the description I mention how it's designed for Sandkings only. If I leave custom vehicles on, people are able to choose ANY off road car even though they are disabled and then they end up rage quitting because they can't get past the water sections.

 

although I like the idea, they need to fix the current system 1st.

Every time I have entered one of those races Ive used my Bohdi and left all the sandkings miles behind. Get enough speed up and a bohdi can go across any water that a sand king can.There normally is a bifta or biker who ends up quitting though

I hope your on ps3

Pm me your psn id and i'll add you. You will fail lol

[Jolly Swagman]

 

 

I have a race called Sandking EXTREME and in the description I mention how it's designed for Sandkings only. If I leave custom vehicles on, people are able to choose ANY off road car even though they are disabled and then they end up rage quitting because they can't get past the water sections.

 

although I like the idea, they need to fix the current system 1st.

Every time I have entered one of those races Ive used my Bohdi and left all the sandkings miles behind. Get enough speed up and a bohdi can go across any water that a sand king can.There normally is a bifta or biker who ends up quitting though

I hope your on ps3

Pm me your psn id and i'll add you. You will fail lol

 

Xbox unfortunately. There are definately areas where if a Bohdi and Sandking were going the same speed that the Sandking would get across but not the Bohdi but I find with the extra speed you get from the Bohdi that in practice there isnt really that much a sandking can get across that a bohdi cant.

[999bats]

Rebel/sand king master race for offroad. The AWD of the rebel (plus the extra speed and better handling of the clean one) and the sheer hulk of the sand king are awesome

[jameznash]

Mixed classes would be a good idea but would have to be done properly to work.

 

most stats for muscle, coupes, a few sedans are all basically the same. Even the SUV's can keep up. If you spend time doing drag races or impromptu races then you will find lots of cars are quite similar.

 

If you say removed the Supercar class and kept it separate then a multi class race could work. But I think they should actually make less classes and just fit vehicles in them.

 

Super

Sports

Mixed - Muscle, coupes, sedans, SUV, off-road, (slowest sports cars) (ALL UNDER ONE)

Off-road (remove the bikes as they ruin off-road race)

Bikes

(also the option to split them up like normal)

 

But as stated before - just make impromptu with your friends and crew and try out different vehicles to see how well the race against each other.

Edited March 19, 2014 by jameznash

[HirsuteDave]

Coupes and muscles could probably live together pretty well but that would sh*t all over the rest of them if they were grouped that way.

[ChillerVapes]

Rather than working with classes. How about the host gets to choose his car 1st (in the race set up screen) and then using his vehicles stats as the level, allow everyone else to choose any car which matches or comes very close to his car?

 

Would be much fairer and more fun than what we have now.

 

e.g I have a fully modded sultan, someone else doesn't have a sultan but decides to choose the stock sultan. I have a huge advantage.

[JC Hammer]

If R* would just fix the menu to let you move up in class to race your customs it would be fine. Then you could race muscle against sports - off road against anything and the RH8 could race the supers. Great Idea.

[Killzone3265]

Coupes and muscles could probably live together pretty well but that would sh*t all over the rest of them if they were grouped that way.

are you kidding me? a stock felon probably outclasses all the muscle cars

[Ezza.]

Yeah. Look at the intro of GTA Online. Those cars racing together were all in different classes. It'd be cool

[AceThaCreator]

 

 

It's a great idea in concept but the Bati 801 would just faceroll everything else.

Everybody would just ram into the Motorcycle so they'd never stand a chance in passing dirty racers unless they started out in the lead from the startYea this is true but no car stands a chance against a bike when cutting tight corners and getting through traffic of course if the biker doesnt **** up.

[HirsuteDave]

 

Coupes and muscles could probably live together pretty well but that would sh*t all over the rest of them if they were grouped that way.

are you kidding me? a stock felon probably outclasses all the muscle cars

 

Probably but the Dominator and Gauntlet aren't too far behind.

[Nomis24]

What Rockstar needs to do is to give the player a new menu in creator. When I just finished creating a race and ready to publish it, i would love to have a menu with all the cars/bikes in the game and I could choose by checking a box which car are allowed in this race.

 

So I could choose for exemple top tier sports class vs lower tier super or any other class. Because there is a lot of potential for exciting races but now its getting boring cause everybody is always using the same cars in each class. I would love to be able to race the bullet or the voltic and still be competitive. (I know you can win races with them because there is a lot of bad racer out there but If you are playing against a player with the same skill level you will get crushed.)

[CarnageRacing00]

I had set-up an Impromptu Race with someone the other day. I was rocking the Jester and they had a Cheetah. He had already said he didn't have any modifications on it and sure enough the Jester won. I realized that I had also set a personal speed record for with it funny enough.

 

It got me thinking that some of these cars really don't just fit into one class or the other.

 

OPEN CLASS

There should be an OPEN Class which allows all the vehicles to compete in the race. I would add that the OPEN Class also DISALLOWS STOCK vehicles to compete, only CUSTOM ones.

 

MULTI-CLASS

At first the consideration was to allow some vehicles to compete in other classes, such as the Sentinel in Sport. I think the better option is having a MULTI-CLASS option. So it says STOCK ONLY and then says SUPER, SPORT, etc. then a class in the middle which mixes them. So a Coupe/Compact Class or Coupe/Super or Super/Sport.

 

I'm not really sure how they'd implement that really, but it just seems like a good idea.

 

 

 

 

I've thought about this too, and what the other person said, a Bati would probably end up being the only vehicle anyone used. The vehicles would have to be totally rebalanced and reconfigured to make this work, unfotunately.

 

I mean, try "open class" in an offroad race, and suddenly the Zentorno will dominate the Brawlers and Sanchezes, etc.

 

What I'd like to see instead is an actual race mode based off the Checkpoints free roam activity.

 

Basically, it would work like this:

 

Race starts like any other race, but from there players have to tag every check point on the map, in any order they choose, then make their way to the finish.

 

Players do not COLLECT the checkpoints, they simply tag them, so if there are 20 check points at the beginning of the race, every player will have to tag each of those 20 checkpoints before they will be able to cross the finish line.

 

This would spread check points across the map, or portions of the map, requiring players, to take jumps, plan routes carefully, AND choose a vehicle best suited for their type of driving.

 

Lastly, the host can set the vehicle lock to a specific vehicle, a specific class, or completely open so anyone can use ANY vehicle they want. They could also set it to "Customs Only" so players will be limited to only the vehicles they own.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

it woud make for problems....just do like broughy does.....this is gtao.....there are few cars that actualy woud be in the same performance class i think

[CarnageRacing00]

They really shouldn't be grouped based on vehicle type, honestly. Rockstar even has a lot of them wrong anyway. Instead, they should be grouped based on stats/performance... Only rockstar had that all screwed up as well. The vehicle performance stats seem arbitrary at best... A car with a high handling stat could be woefully uncontrollable compared to a car with half the handling score.

 

Really rockstar needs to overhaul the entire performance rating of vehicles, and then put them in groups based on their lap times. That data should be available already.

[Nacho Z]

Could there be some kind of auto balancing if you were to start a multi class game? As in supers' speed gets decreased as well as their ability to drive on dirt, so in an off road race you could pick any vehicle and they would all be equally balanced.

 

Probably crazy talk but it would be fun to have a T20 face off against a Faggio and a Sandking and have them on a roughly similar level.

[vipprimo]

 

I had set-up an Impromptu Race with someone the other day. I was rocking the Jester and they had a Cheetah. He had already said he didn't have any modifications on it and sure enough the Jester won. I realized that I had also set a personal speed record for with it funny enough.

 

It got me thinking that some of these cars really don't just fit into one class or the other.

 

OPEN CLASS

There should be an OPEN Class which allows all the vehicles to compete in the race. I would add that the OPEN Class also DISALLOWS STOCK vehicles to compete, only CUSTOM ones.

 

MULTI-CLASS

At first the consideration was to allow some vehicles to compete in other classes, such as the Sentinel in Sport. I think the better option is having a MULTI-CLASS option. So it says STOCK ONLY and then says SUPER, SPORT, etc. then a class in the middle which mixes them. So a Coupe/Compact Class or Coupe/Super or Super/Sport.

 

I'm not really sure how they'd implement that really, but it just seems like a good idea.

 

 

 

 

I've thought about this too, and what the other person said, a Bati would probably end up being the only vehicle anyone used. The vehicles would have to be totally rebalanced and reconfigured to make this work, unfotunately.

 

I mean, try "open class" in an offroad race, and suddenly the Zentorno will dominate the Brawlers and Sanchezes, etc.

 

What I'd like to see instead is an actual race mode based off the Checkpoints free roam activity.

 

Basically, it would work like this:

 

Race starts like any other race, but from there players have to tag every check point on the map, in any order they choose, then make their way to the finish.

 

Players do not COLLECT the checkpoints, they simply tag them, so if there are 20 check points at the beginning of the race, every player will have to tag each of those 20 checkpoints before they will be able to cross the finish line.

 

This would spread check points across the map, or portions of the map, requiring players, to take jumps, plan routes carefully, AND choose a vehicle best suited for their type of driving.

 

Lastly, the host can set the vehicle lock to a specific vehicle, a specific class, or completely open so anyone can use ANY vehicle they want. They could also set it to "Customs Only" so players will be limited to only the vehicles they own.

 

 

I think it's funny that a lot of people can't understand why I can get my Osiris to where I want to go faster than they can get their Baati, but that's based on skill. I know a lot of Zentorno guys who tried to compete on off-road events I could beat with a Sanchez no problem. The point is not to have a broken game because we already have that with a room full of T20s on catch-up that just ram each other into the first turn. This would be more for good players who want to race their Massacro against a Zentorno and they'll never have that chance the way the game is built. There's tons of games out there, Midnight Club: LA for instance, that all the classes were merged and everyone just drove the fastest. That's the insanity of the standard casual player and that's that.

 

I'm definitely not interested in "free roam" racing. There would be noway to get everyone in one spot and then the GTA tactics would make it not worth doing. Besides, they already have a CP event now and it's the only way to do it in free roam as we know it.

 

I did like the idea of "custom" class. I tried this with the way we have it and you just can't do it in created races. Once you have "custom on" you lose the limitations you put on the race. For instance, if you wanted to keep it to Sultan/Kurumas/Buffalos you couldn't do that once you turned on the Custom cars. How hard would it to be to switch it to Custom class and then allow the creator to select the cars, both stock and custom, that can be in it. I know people would screw it up, but it would just add another level to those that are tired of "jump" races all day.