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ClaudeTheWolf

Claude Speed VS Niko Bellic

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ClaudeTheWolf

Niko Bellic: War Veteran, Hates Bowling , Has A "Super Mario" Like Russian Voice. Seems Like He Believes The American Dream In The Start Of The Game. Has A Fat, Liar Cousin Addicted To Bowling.

 

Claude Speed: Professional Thug, Good Racer, Owned A Abandoned Garage In San Fierro, Kills 2 Dons Of The Mafia ( Kenji In The Yakuza And Salvatore For The Leone ) Has Weapons Being Supplied To Him By The Army Itself (Phil Cassidy). Killed Catalina And Screwed The Cartel Over. Silent, Calm Killer. Appeared In 2D Universe And 3D Universe.

 

 

 

P.S: About The Universe Stuff, R* COULD Put Characters From 3D Universe To HD Universe, They Have A Excuse That

"The Characters On The 3D Universe Would Look Nothing Like Themselves In HD." Lie. Just Watch This Video Of Claude Speed VS Niko Bellic WITH Claude In HD. If They Were Not Lazy, R* Could Just Make 3D Characters In HD.

 

 

As You See Claude Speed Is Rendered In HD And Looks Almost The Same.

Post Your Opinions Here. Skip to 1:11 If You Want To Watch Claude HD Immediately.

But I Overall Recommend That Vid. Its Funny And Intersting.

Theres Also The Grand Theft Auto Match By The Same Creator, Which Hosts The Same Characters And A Drunken, Trevor Philips In His Underwear. :panic:

 

Sorry For Going Off Topic, But Post Your Opinions Here.

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BLOOD

I cant see them Unifying the 3 Universes unless they completely Reboot GTA,which i cant see happening but i am not Rockstar,plus they have 45 years of ideas for GTA,so we never know.

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matajuegos01

You know? I've started thinking more about Claude, and I think he's the most mysterious character in any GTA, he shows no remorse, he kills anyone who stands in his path and he gets focused in his goal all the time. I kind of admire him.

 

Niko on the other hand is more of a war victim, a person who has been considerably damaged by the horrors of war, he's seen his friends die, he's gotten into many problematic situations and has been guided by morons and treacherous pricks but even then, he's still human, he knows what is right and wrong, he is special in a sort of way.

 

That said I think that if you put it in different perspectives both may win, be it for being the most violent, the most ruthless, the best drivers, etc. But in the end you didn't specify in which area you want us to put them in.

 

Anyways Claude is my first bet. Something about him makes me feel, like him.

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Jeansowaty

Niko is the best protagonist.

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ClaudX

Neither would win. They'd realize that it is a stalemate and then go for a game of pool and a couple of beers. Seriously, it's too close of a match to determine who would win. It all boils down to the finishing move.

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Pastry

Claude will just pull out his super op M16 and shoot Niko in the face before he has time to pull out a flippin Glock! Gotta love that 3D Universe magic pocket system...

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Alpha Demigod

Niko Bellic: War Veteran, Hates Bowling , Has A "Super Mario" Like Russian Voice.

 

I don't understand that. How does Niko sound like Super Mario?

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Grievous

He probably means Niko tends to have a high pitched voice approach, like the way he says "Hey".

 

But I agree it was odd to see that kind of description in a 'versus' topic.

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Spadge

I really appreciate Niko Bellic, however I have to say it's Claude who would take it away. Like matajuegos said it above, Claude is a misterious, silent character, he has something from a god in the greek methology, young, strong and fatal.

 

He doesn't show weakness, pain and always stick to his goal, no traumatisms, no remorse, no pity. A grade A lunatic :^:

 

But like ssbawesome said, it's only theory, the both guys are made of the same woods, both faces in the masses of Liberty City, they'd rather gonna sit down together and have a drink.

 

Edit : You should add a poll.

Edited by Spadge007

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Rebel Yell

Tough call... but probably I'd say Niko because I have pride when it comes to Niko. C'mon, you guys, you gotta be kidding me by despising Niko. Niko is actually a very strong man in terms of morals. First of all, he comes from a sh*thole of a place in Eastern Europe, he's a veteran of a very bloody battle which teared his world apart. Lots of violence, lots of blood he saw. He's seen his friends died in cold blood, he's killed innocent people just for a stupid thing called war where the young are tricked to do so. Come on, Niko deserves a "medal" for that; he has gone through hard things like that however he still lives, he still manages to be a sarcastic bastard. Yet, you're right; Niko seems like more humanistic when compared to Claude, he's a good person by the heart, or at least he tries to be good. However, his good nature works depended on the situation. For example, Francis McReary actually persuades Niko to wipe down Clarence and his lieutenant seen during "Lure" by implying that "they sell heroin to kids", thinking about a person like Niko, he would likely to kill this person and burn his body to the ground. I mean Niko becomes a cold-blooded killer when it comes to his family, his friends or justice (sort of). For his gun-using and fighting skills, Niko is hinted as a good fighter throughout all the game. Look, how he eliminates Dardan during "Three's a Crowd" and the dialogue between Packie and him during "Harboring A Grudge", in which Niko states that he doubts if anyone is able to "touch" him, he has got some moves. And personally, I think Niko has a massive range of expertise over guns.

 

For Claude, he's a one badass motherf*cker too. His silent nature gives him a psycho, heartless brutal appearance. I agree with the opinion that Claude is one of the most mysterious characters throughout the series. Although this silent type makes Claude a very little bit creepy, he's okay. I see Claude as a type of criminal who don't ask questions, just cares about carrying out his task and getting his money (in this way, he resembles Niko in some way or another). Also I admire Claude because y'know he is really stuck to his task, like a professional. Rather than getting Catalina in a quite easy way during "Cutting The Grass", he decided to stick to the work he has been given. When it comes to business, I can say Claude is the most professional and sharp protagonist in the series, meanwhile Niko is the most skilled assassin, in my opinon.

 

The both have got their uses like I stated, so it's a hard choice to make. However, I'd probably pick Niko because he is my favourite protagonist in the series.

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Alpha Demigod
-epic post-

 

I tip my champagne glass to this one. A great, thorough, and totally realistic analysis of both characters and you provided several story events as reference for your statements. A well-done essay.

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Grievous

That's an essay?

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Spadge

Tough call... but probably I'd say Niko because I have pride when it comes to Niko. C'mon, you guys, you gotta be kidding me by despising Niko. Niko is actually a very strong man in terms of morals. First of all, he comes from a sh*thole of a place in Eastern Europe, he's a veteran of a very bloody battle which teared his world apart. Lots of violence, lots of blood he saw. He's seen his friends died in cold blood, he's killed innocent people just for a stupid thing called war where the young are tricked to do so. Come on, Niko deserves a "medal" for that; he has gone through hard things like that however he still lives, he still manages to be a sarcastic bastard. Yet, you're right; Niko seems like more humanistic when compared to Claude, he's a good person by the heart, or at least he tries to be good. However, his good nature works depended on the situation. For example, Francis McReary actually persuades Niko to wipe down Clarence and his lieutenant seen during "Lure" by implying that "they sell heroin to kids", thinking about a person like Niko, he would likely to kill this person and burn his body to the ground. I mean Niko becomes a cold-blooded killer when it comes to his family, his friends or justice (sort of). For his gun-using and fighting skills, Niko is hinted as a good fighter throughout all the game. Look, how he eliminates Dardan during "Three's a Crowd" and the dialogue between Packie and him during "Harboring A Grudge", in which Niko states that he doubts if anyone is able to "touch" him, he has got some moves. And personally, I think Niko has a massive range of expertise over guns.

 

For Claude, he's a one badass motherf*cker too. His silent nature gives him a psycho, heartless brutal appearance. I agree with the opinion that Claude is one of the most mysterious characters throughout the series. Although this silent type makes Claude a very little bit creepy, he's okay. I see Claude as a type of criminal who don't ask questions, just cares about carrying out his task and getting his money (in this way, he resembles Niko in some way or another). Also I admire Claude because y'know he is really stuck to his task, like a professional. Rather than getting Catalina in a quite easy way during "Cutting The Grass", he decided to stick to the work he has been given. When it comes to business, I can say Claude is the most professional and sharp protagonist in the series, meanwhile Niko is the most skilled assassin, in my opinon.

 

The both have got their uses like I stated, so it's a hard choice to make. However, I'd probably pick Niko because he is my favourite protagonist in the series.

 

I don't know why you are sooo conscerned about it, and like you said it, it's your favorite protag, so you might just be biased. But I don't know why in a GTA Universe encounter, they'd fight

Some people overrate Claude's silence, thinking he has no sense of morality, still it's ambigius, but some push it to the limit.

 

I think those 2 protagonists are really similar to eachother, closer that any other protagonists in the series ever, both betrayed individuals with stong principals, bearing the pressure of a decadent city, they would really rather have a beer together than fight, think about it.

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Grievous

Add to that, there's a reason why Claude's outfit is available for Niko to wear.

 

And not to mention you earn that outfit in IV by killing one of your employers, which is exactly the sort of thing Claude has always been so accustomed at doing in III.

 

Both Claude and Niko are the same archetype of character that works for numerous criminal organization in the city (more so than other protagonists in the series), either for no reason other than to earn cash or in the pretense of looking for 'someone' in particular.

It's all deliberate I'm sure.

 

And both III and IV ends with resonant elements, such as a close ally getting killed, a massive sum of cash involved, and a helicopter crash.

IV just had the decency of portraying a more gloomy angle to it. If III was 'remade' today it would have been similar to IV.

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Rebel Yell

 

Tough call... but probably I'd say Niko because I have pride when it comes to Niko. C'mon, you guys, you gotta be kidding me by despising Niko. Niko is actually a very strong man in terms of morals. First of all, he comes from a sh*thole of a place in Eastern Europe, he's a veteran of a very bloody battle which teared his world apart. Lots of violence, lots of blood he saw. He's seen his friends died in cold blood, he's killed innocent people just for a stupid thing called war where the young are tricked to do so. Come on, Niko deserves a "medal" for that; he has gone through hard things like that however he still lives, he still manages to be a sarcastic bastard. Yet, you're right; Niko seems like more humanistic when compared to Claude, he's a good person by the heart, or at least he tries to be good. However, his good nature works depended on the situation. For example, Francis McReary actually persuades Niko to wipe down Clarence and his lieutenant seen during "Lure" by implying that "they sell heroin to kids", thinking about a person like Niko, he would likely to kill this person and burn his body to the ground. I mean Niko becomes a cold-blooded killer when it comes to his family, his friends or justice (sort of). For his gun-using and fighting skills, Niko is hinted as a good fighter throughout all the game. Look, how he eliminates Dardan during "Three's a Crowd" and the dialogue between Packie and him during "Harboring A Grudge", in which Niko states that he doubts if anyone is able to "touch" him, he has got some moves. And personally, I think Niko has a massive range of expertise over guns.

 

For Claude, he's a one badass motherf*cker too. His silent nature gives him a psycho, heartless brutal appearance. I agree with the opinion that Claude is one of the most mysterious characters throughout the series. Although this silent type makes Claude a very little bit creepy, he's okay. I see Claude as a type of criminal who don't ask questions, just cares about carrying out his task and getting his money (in this way, he resembles Niko in some way or another). Also I admire Claude because y'know he is really stuck to his task, like a professional. Rather than getting Catalina in a quite easy way during "Cutting The Grass", he decided to stick to the work he has been given. When it comes to business, I can say Claude is the most professional and sharp protagonist in the series, meanwhile Niko is the most skilled assassin, in my opinon.

 

The both have got their uses like I stated, so it's a hard choice to make. However, I'd probably pick Niko because he is my favourite protagonist in the series.

 

I don't know why you are sooo conscerned about it, and like you said it, it's your favorite protag, so you might just be biased. But I don't know why in a GTA Universe encounter, they'd fight

Some people overrate Claude's silence, thinking he has no sense of morality, still it's ambigius, but some push it to the limit.

 

I think those 2 protagonists are really similar to eachother, closer that any other protagonists in the series ever, both betrayed individuals with stong principals, bearing the pressure of a decadent city, they would really rather have a beer together than fight, think about it.

 

I dunno that, too. But I can assure you, it's not something like being biased, something different. I don't say that Claude is overshadowed by Niko, or something, actually I tried to state that the both have got their uses. I guess I wasn't be very clear. Anyways, like you said, it's too much better if our "stuck" Eastern European maniac and our silent, mysterious, dangerous killer would have a couple of beers, that would be hell of a boys trip.

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universetwisters

As You See Claude Speed Is Rendered In HD And Looks Almost The Same.

 

Surely that's a joke, right?

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mysteriousamg

I would have to say niko just because he came to a whole new "country" based on a lie and made his way to the top. Claude got lucky catalinas original bullet didnt kill him and he was able to get redemption. They both trusted a female which always led to the downfall of many great men. Good thing CJ got away from her. Niko didnt take no sh*t. And he got connected with ul paper which ended up getting niko closer to darko brevic. Claude just did what he was told until something better came along that got him closer to catalina. While claude had a few better weapons, niko could call dwayne, playboy x(if you didnt kill him, and little jacob for backup. Too bad trevor stomped johnny klibbutz to death(he shoulda died different rockstar) because niko could have called him and the rest of the lost too. And little jacob can call all those jamaicans. Claude only had phil cassidy which blew his arm off in 1986. Plus niko had to lose either kate mcreary or roman at the end of his story which is just more gas thron on the fire. Claude got to whack maria's 100 mile a minute talking ass in which all his goals were accomplished. Niko has more rage which gives him more heart to fight till the end. Plus he was in the army. Claude couldnt even change his clothes. Lls

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Vercetti42

Niko by a landslide. Looking back Claude was the worst protagonist in the series IMO. No personality, no back-story, nothing. Niko felt like much more of a real and developed character. The only thing I really like about Claude was that he was more mysterious compared to other protagonists but other than that I found him to be boring.

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theNGclan

 

As You See Claude Speed Is Rendered In HD And Looks Almost The Same.

 

Surely that's a joke, right?

 

It can't be a joke when it's true amigo.

 

tumblr_m91wq9WO1T1r8p9fpo1_500.gif

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Hodgey.

plus they have 45 years of ideas for GTA,so we never know.

 

I've never understood how they worked out that they have 45 years of ideas. Baffles me.

 

Anyway I personally prefer Niko over Claude. Claude is a fine protag but it's hard to get a sense of his personality when he is a mute. With Niko you went through many emotions with him during the game plus he is a badass without being over the top like Trevor Phillips was. I'd choose Niko any day of the week over Claude.

 

(Tommy Vercetti is still the best overall though)

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wiizardii

Like most people said: if it where to happen, they both would turn out buddies and grab some beer in a random place in either 3D LC or HD LC.

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universetwisters

 

 

 

 

As You See Claude Speed Is Rendered In HD And Looks Almost The Same.

Surely that's a joke, right?

 

It can't be a joke when it's true amigo.

 

tumblr_m91wq9WO1T1r8p9fpo1_500.gif

I don't see the similarities, but hello there Dennis the 1/8th Serb.

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Midyin84

I allways figured Claude Speed in HD would look like Bobby Dillon(The Wallflowers) did back when he was younger. Like when they did the video for that "We Could be Heros" song... You know, back when people cared about the Wallflowers..

 

 

Anyway, back on topic. I think its a hard comparison just because we don't ever really get to know Claude. He didn't have any personality to speak of. He just did as he was told without asking questions or even talking.. He was less a human and more just a Gollum or some kind of faux human homunculus...

That all said. I have to give it to Niko for having a personality. He was a good but flawed man caught up in a sh*tty set of circumstances, and that's what made him relateable...

Edited by Midyin84

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ClaudeGnome

I like Claude more. There's something about him that makes him really cool. But of course, he really has no personality. So in terms of actual character, Niko is a much better protagonist. He definitely is the best written character in the series. Though his pessimism and depressing attitude gets really annoying sometimes. Plus, his in-game model looks horrible in my opinion. He looks much better in his artwork.

Edited by SuckerGnome

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I prefer Niko as well. I like his character as whole. From his dialogues, to his acts.

 

He's a war veteran. Also, if Claude killed two mob bosses, Niko killed even more; Mikhail (Faustin Russian Mafia's boss), Isaac (Jewish mob's boss), Kim Young-Guk (Korean mob's boss), Dimitri (Rascalov Russian Mafia's boss, formerly named as Faustin Mafia), and Jimmy Peg (Pegorino family's don - Revenge ending only). As well as killing other high-ranking members of some gangs, like Jason and Jim (Lost MC lieutenants), Ray Boccino (Pegorino family's capo), Anthony Spoleto (one of the Ancelotti family's captains), and Charles Matteo (Giovanni Ancelotti's right-hand man).

 

Niko's Serbian btw, not Russian. Also, R* didn't confirm that GTA 3's Claude is the same one from GTA 2. It's most likely that they both are different persons.

Edited by Kane49

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Claude Speed: Professional Thug, Good Racer, Owned A Abandoned Garage In San Fierro, Kills 2 Dons Of The Mafia ( Kenji In The Yakuza And Salvatore For The Leone ) Has Weapons Being Supplied To Him By The Army Itself (Phil Cassidy). Killed Catalina And Screwed The Cartel Over. Silent, Calm Killer. Appeared In 2D Universe And 3D Universe.

Claude's name never appears in GTA III, or any GTA game. He does not have a last name.

Edited by Hussein Sonic

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Claude Speed: Professional Thug, Good Racer, Owned A Abandoned Garage In San Fierro, Kills 2 Dons Of The Mafia ( Kenji In The Yakuza And Salvatore For The Leone ) Has Weapons Being Supplied To Him By The Army Itself (Phil Cassidy). Killed Catalina And Screwed The Cartel Over. Silent, Calm Killer. Appeared In 2D Universe And 3D Universe.

Claude's name never appears in GTA III, or any GTA game. He does not have a last name.

 

Also Claude Speed is the protagonist from GTA 2 .

Edited by jaljax

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CoolMods

For f*ck's sake, seems like NOBODY f*ckING understands that claude from gta 3 isn't even Speed. His last name is not revealed.

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Johnny Spaz

Niko would beat Claude to a bloody pulp

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Yfyuelu

Claude is better

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