Glitching To Get By

[Mar7in]

I've been having a discussion with a friend about finances and Glitches in Gta. This started because I said that to make money in Gta all you have to do is play the game.

 

His point of view is that he has to do money glitches "just to get by" He says he has nearly gone broke a few times and once had to sell one of his cars as he couldn't pay his mechanic and apartment fees.

 

I have done the Bati 801 glitch in the early days of my online game, don't get me wrong. I've also sold 20 Adders to launder as much of my gifted "Hacked" money as possible but I don't feel I have to do them now. I have grown tired of having night long gun battles with strangers as I find that when this happens it costs a fortune in ammo. Generally my garage is sorted, consequently I find that spend far less. I also think that money glitches have been holding the game back.

 

My friend disagrees with me saying that gun fights, calls to Pegasus, Merryweather, Lamar, Lester, constant car repairs all cost a fortune. He plays races early on in his nightly sessions for about 30 or 40 grand profit a day. But spends far more than that later in the evening on all of the above. Therefore in his argument he needs to "Glitch to get by"

 

One of his prime examples is having 6 supercars blown up in one evening by tanks and having to pay Mors for the insurance himself.

 

He says that Rockstar have deliberately made the game this way as a buisness model so people will buy shark cards.

 

But I disagree, he has two characters with full garages and all of the Pegasus vehicles with his main character. I state that he has everything in the game already and that he could play the game without having world war 3 every night, all night. Whereas he thinks that is the game and says it is boring otherwise.

 

I am content to do missions, lots of races. Have the occasional ruck with another player and generally potter around taking photos and enjoying a fantastic game environment.

 

How do you guys play Gta? Has anyone gone broke? or are you minted purely legitimately? Do you glitch and why?

 

I have nothing against glitching at all I just think its a choice some people make.

 

 

Thanks, Mart.

 

[Malibu454]

I've never been close to broke, but its much nicer to have a few mil in the bank.

I just wish it were like that IRL.

But hey, who cares it's his game and that's the part of the game he enjoys the most. He's still living the billionaire life in the game.

He could play RtR a few times and make faster money than racing though, and he'll get his rocks off gunning and running.

He could drive muscle cars and save a helluva lot on ins. and still go fast.

Edited March 15, 2014 by Malibu454

[MadHaTT3R]

I've been having a discussion with a friend about finances and Glitches in Gta. This started because I said that to make money in Gta all you have to do is play the game.

 

His point of view is that he has to do money glitches "just to get by" He says he has nearly gone broke a few times and once had to sell one of his cars as he couldn't pay his mechanic and apartment fees.

 

I have done the Bati 801 glitch in the early days of my online game, don't get me wrong. I've also sold 20 Adders to launder as much of my gifted "Hacked" money as possible but I don't feel I have to do them now. I have grown tired of having night long gun battles with strangers as I find that when this happens it costs a fortune in ammo. Generally my garage is sorted, consequently I find that spend far less. I also think that money glitches have been holding the game back.

 

My friend disagrees with me saying that gun fights, calls to Pegasus, Merryweather, Lamar, Lester, constant car repairs all cost a fortune. He plays races early on in his nightly sessions for about 30 or 40 grand profit a day. But spends far more than that later in the evening on all of the above. Therefore in his argument he needs to "Glitch to get by"

 

One of his prime examples is having 6 supercars blown up in one evening by tanks and having to pay Mors for the insurance himself.

 

He says that Rockstar have deliberately made the game this way as a buisness model so people will buy shark cards.

 

But I disagree, he has two characters with full garages and all of the Pegasus vehicles with his main character. I state that he has everything in the game already and that he could play the game without having world war 3 every night, all night. Whereas he thinks that is the game and says it is boring otherwise.

 

I am content to do missions, lots of races. Have the occasional ruck with another player and generally potter around taking photos and enjoying a fantastic game environment.

 

How do you guys play Gta? Has anyone gone broke? or are you minted purely legitimately? Do you glitch and why?

 

I have nothing against glitching at all I just think its a choice some people make.

 

 

Thanks, Mart.

 

 

 

Well if you sold off 20 Adders, then you are probably in a much better financial boat than your friend. So of course you are going to be more content to now play the game as intended, without the "need" to go outside the norm. I think its a bit unfair of you to question your friends motives, given that even though you didnt glitch to get your funds, you did in fact take advantage of the fact that someone else did. The only difference being that he actively participates in glitching, while you simply took advantage of it.

 

Personally, I couldnt care less how anyone gets anything. From my point of view, its R*s fault for the glitching. They not only make it possible, but in many cases warranted. They are downright miserly in their rewarding, with the exception of a few missions that promote grinding of those while others go non played. Missions that should pay out for the difficulty, pay next to nothing. While missions that are lame, pay much more. I dont condone cheating, but if it doesnt effect other players I also dont consider it cheating.

[Mar7in]

I have participated in glitches and he did the Adder thing too, he just blew all the money, whereas I thought I should make it last. He was questioning my motives initially as I said that I didn't need to glitch anymore and he asked how I managed to get by without glitching. I have nothing against him doing it, he needs to because of the way he plays the game.

[artisntrealz]

There are no money glitches anymore

[Malibu454]

Some of Simeon's missions suck ass!

I wrecked my Entity and an Adder chasing a damn Jackal then a Coquette. I was tired as hell and got an invite from a lvl 19 with my lvl 25 2nd.

I said wtf and went for it. In the end the Coquette drove in the water with me following in my Adder. lol.. Mission Failed.

Those Simeon mission dont pay sh*t anyway. 2k idk?

There are no money glitches anymore

Riiiggght.... what rock are u living under?

[ashbashbluesfan]

I can understand his point of view, no matter what anyone says this game is designed so that people buy shark cards, even the dlc is free so people buy shark cards to get the new cars, especially for casual gamers that don't grind for hours nearly everything good is unattainable.

The mission payouts are quite ridiculous, there are 2 good missions in the game and they are still not a great payout.

 

I for example and many of my friends are constantly upgrading and trying new cars, it's around 300K to fully max a car and you may have to buy it too, that's a hell of a lot of time in RtR considering how quickly you can spend it.

Hell face paint can cost you 25K..

 

That being said if your sensible, stick to 1-2 good cars and upgrade them and don't waste money on crap like airstrikes and spending 10K in rpg's for a 1K bounty then you can get by ok but you won't be rich.

[Cudwieser]

The nature of a game is to be played. Money is a by product of playing the game. The biggest problem I have is to keep the game fresh is exceptionally difficult and R* are failing miserably (conspiracy is towards shark cards). New cars et al are always welcome and,as has been pointed out, will take time to buy and upgrade. I have no qualms against the concept, but IMO the payouts for the likes of upgrading and maintenance is somewhat disproportionate and unobtainable. The cost of the car and what not is somewhat immaterial due to the idea you are meant to earn it (a topic for another thread). All I can say for now is that when the heists come online this discussion will change as money should be less of an issue. If gambling was brought in then that will change things as well.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Cudwieser

[Mar7in]

I never considered needing to glitch as a necessity to play the game. I used to do it for a laugh really. Ffs I bought every aeroplane and a tank & boat?

I will say that its sh*t that car mods are so expensive in online but a fraction of the cost in story mode. Rockstar have defo got their heads screwed on, I think I read that the total cost of all the valentines stuff equaled the cost of the top shark card, no big surprise really but I want to think that you can just play the game and get by. I like this game but I'm not buying cards.

[ashbashbluesfan]

Just from the last game I was in I can see why the majority of people have no money.

 

I had a 9K bounty, several people were after me for awhile, 1 destroyed my entity and used an airstrike against me, that equals about $17000, plus all his rpg and grenade shots, sniper ammo etc etc, it's just ridiculous when people get into these vendettas, even if he killed me he'd have lost more than double that he earned, just a joke and really shows how dumb people are.

I also know a lot of people that frequently change pearlescent paint jobs which costs them around 40K per time if they use expensive 1's.

 

Honestly the best way to play is to have 1 or 2 main cars, like say an elegy and entity, fully upgrade those and fully upgrade your weapons, get some clothes and stuff you like and then you don't really need to spend anymore money.

 

Even if you think your playing cod in free roam it's probably better to buy a tank if you think about it financially, $200 to call it and you don't pay for insurance now, it's definately the most cost affective option once you own it.

[Cudwieser]

The insurance thing won't last. On the merry weather, rpg ammo front I say keep the prices high (but proportional. Pay per round not for a refill) for explosives and forcing a bit more sensible combat. I'm not entirely against glitching to the point of brining in hidden content and what not, but money. I can understand why, but no game should be such a drain as to need it and with consumables and modifications being as pricey as they are in a game where consumption is high, the economy needs updated with some of the promises made and some new money makers like drug dealing. A regular income of sorts that reflects the rate of consumption would make a lot of sense. Robbing stores ans doing missions is alright but, and this is going to sound weird, but there is no risk in earning money. Replayable missions has gone some way to alleviate this, but they are a tad repetitive and risk free. If there was a riskier money maaker in free roam, such as drug dealing, with sizeable pay per load and deal, but risk of loosing the lot if the police or other players get you (you can retrieve contraband from players along with some money, but the police keep the contraband) then the economy should begin to make more sense.

[ashbashbluesfan]

anyone ever play scarface on ps2? smuggling coke on boats and selling drugs, and that was like 10 years ago, surely gta can implement this by now.

[AlienTwo]

I don't know why he sold a car to pay his mechanic and fees, that's $150 per game day (only while playing) so he could have robbed a store, done a bounty or hit an armored truck.

 

Still, glitching is fine as it doesn't negatively impact other players, or give too much of an edge... you still have to rank up for anything worth while.

[Mar7in]

I'll ask why he had to sell a car, from memory he said he had no option.

[Fail_At_GTA]

My friend glitches in 100-200k every time he gets close to broke. Some people aren't good at missions. Another one of my friends has MS which is eating away at his brain so he doesn't have complete focus when he's doing stuff. He cant aim with guns or drive too well, but he really enjoys the game. It would suck for him if he couldn't even drive fast cars. Then again, this is not the case for the vast majority of players. It all comes down to who is lazy tbh.

 

If I want money, I do missions like Rooftop Rumble or Coveted but recently I glitched in some cash because I needed to organize my garage. Its all situational.

[AlienTwo]

I'll ask why he had to sell a car, from memory he said he had no option.

Sounds unlikely... as unlikely as your avatar and I meeting for a hot date...

[Cudwieser]

 

I'll ask why he had to sell a car, from memory he said he had no option.

Sounds unlikely... as unlikely as your avatar and I meeting for a hot date...

 

Down Boy. She's mine

 

anyone ever play scarface on ps2? smuggling coke on boats and selling drugs, and that was like 10 years ago, surely gta can implement this by now.

They did in Chinatown Wars in Liberty City. I have heard rumours a while ago that gambling at the casino and drug dealing were meant to be in GTAO, but such things sound like proposals at best and pipe dreams at worst. In any case I see no reason they won't happen and at least one of them can't happen in the next update (if speculation is to be beleived).

 

My friend glitches in 100-200k every time he gets close to broke. Some people aren't good at missions. Another one of my friends has MS which is eating away at his brain so he doesn't have complete focus when he's doing stuff. He cant aim with guns or drive too well, but he really enjoys the game. It would suck for him if he couldn't even drive fast cars. Then again, this is not the case for the vast majority of players. It all comes down to who is lazy tbh.

 

If I want money, I do missions like Rooftop Rumble or Coveted but recently I glitched in some cash because I needed to organize my garage. Its all situational.

Sorry to hear about your friend. If he needs a hand I'm sure people here will be more than happy to help.

[Mar7in]

I asked my friend and he said he was low on cash and was charged for destroying a vehicle which left him next to broke and his daily fee's came in and a message came up saying he couldn't pay them. A list of his cars came up asking which one he wanted to sell to cover his debt. I only have his word for this and he could be making it up to try and validate his argument. Its not happened to me or anyone else I know so I cant say for sure if its true.

 

In the case of the friend with MS I would second people helping him out. I know a girl with MS and her employer wont recognise it as proper illness and wont pay her sick pay but she's good at her job so they keep her on. It sucks.

 

My Avatars all mine and I have a tank to make sure it stays that way

Edited March 16, 2014 by Mar7in

[lann3fors]

Some people glitch money cause everything else is boring, until new garagespaces open up and they can collect more vehicles. That way they have money to spend once they have something to spend it on.

[Cudwieser]

 

In the case of the friend with MS I would second people helping him out. I know a girl with MS and her employer wont recognise it as proper illness and wont pay her sick pay but she's good at her job so they keep her on. It sucks.

 

 

 

Sounds like your friends employer is a bit of a thick f*cker who is confusing MS with ME. Before complaints begin I'm not deriding either, but there is a common and ignorant belief that sufferers of ME are just whiners with a made up illness and should be forced to work or fired. MS has been a known illness for years and is a progressive illness that can get very severe. ME is relatively new and research is still being carried out on the extent of the illness.

[Malibu454]

 

 

 

 

I'll ask why he had to sell a car, from memory he said he had no option.

Sounds unlikely... as unlikely as your avatar and I meeting for a hot date...

 

Down Boy. She's mine

 

anyone ever play scarface on ps2? smuggling coke on boats and selling drugs, and that was like 10 years ago, surely gta can implement this by now.

They did in Chinatown Wars in Liberty City. I have heard rumours a while ago that gambling at the casino and drug dealing were meant to be in GTAO, but such things sound like proposals at best and pipe dreams at worst. In any case I see no reason they won't happen and at least one of them can't happen in the next update (if speculation is to be beleived).

 

My friend glitches in 100-200k every time he gets close to broke. Some people aren't good at missions. Another one of my friends has MS which is eating away at his brain so he doesn't have complete focus when he's doing stuff. He cant aim with guns or drive too well, but he really enjoys the game. It would suck for him if he couldn't even drive fast cars. Then again, this is not the case for the vast majority of players. It all comes down to who is lazy tbh.

 

If I want money, I do missions like Rooftop Rumble or Coveted but recently I glitched in some cash because I needed to organize my garage. Its all situational.

Sorry to hear about your friend. If he needs a hand I'm sure people here will be more than happy to help. Same here. Your friend could ride Chopper Gunner in the Buzzard. There's quite a few missions for that.

[redpoint]

He needs to glitch to suit the way he plays the game, as you said its only to fund his world war 3 in free roam every night, staying in free roam lobbies all night is gonna eat away at your cash whichever way you look @ it. Since hitting level 75 I haven't spent any money in days because I can happily farm RR over and over again without getting bored. Maybe if he did RR like 4 or 5 times that would cover his frenzy in free mode.

[AlienTwo]

I asked my friend and he said he was low on cash and was charged for destroying a vehicle which left him next to broke and his daily fee's came in and a message came up saying he couldn't pay them. A list of his cars came up asking which one he wanted to sell to cover his debt. I only have his word for this and he could be making it up to try and validate his argument. Its not happened to me or anyone else I know so I cant say for sure if its true.

 

In the case of the friend with MS I would second people helping him out. I know a girl with MS and her employer wont recognise it as proper illness and wont pay her sick pay but she's good at her job so they keep her on. It sucks.

 

My Avatars all mine and I have a tank to make sure it stays that way

Weird... I ran out of money and it just turned off my music and tv and the mechanic wouldn't pick up.

[IH8PITT]

In all honesty, and the debate aside, it sounds like your friend is stupid with his money, and may just be stupid and/or lazy in general.

 

No one should be broke by using MW, Lamar, Lester, or Pegasus, especially if he's making 40k per night on races. Lamar's mugger is completely useless, and Pegasus is only $200 per delivery. Helicopters and ammo are easy enough to come by, so unless he's incredibly lazy, he shouldn't be calling MW for those. Airstrikes are damn near useless in my experience, so there's more money saved. Lester shouldn't be breaking his bank, either, unless he's too lazy to lose the cops on his own.

 

IMO it sounds like he's looking for any justification for glitching instead of making money legit, and he's blaming his lack of funds on anything but the actual problem (himself), which creates a cycle.

 

TL;DR- your friend is lazy and doesn't manage his money well, and blames everything else but himself for the empty bank account as justification for his cheating.

[Mar7in]

In all honesty, and the debate aside, it sounds like your friend is stupid with his money, and may just be stupid and/or lazy in general.

 

No one should be broke by using MW, Lamar, Lester, or Pegasus, especially if he's making 40k per night on races. Lamar's mugger is completely useless, and Pegasus is only $200 per delivery. Helicopters and ammo are easy enough to come by, so unless he's incredibly lazy, he shouldn't be calling MW for those. Airstrikes are damn near useless in my experience, so there's more money saved. Lester shouldn't be breaking his bank, either, unless he's too lazy to lose the cops on his own.

 

IMO it sounds like he's looking for any justification for glitching instead of making money legit, and he's blaming his lack of funds on anything but the actual problem (himself), which creates a cycle.

 

TL;DR- your friend is lazy and doesn't manage his money well, and blames everything else but himself for the empty bank account as justification for his cheating.

 

Kind of what I thought, if you want to glitch money just do it and take any possible consequences like a man if they ban you just don't imply that you have to do it because of Rockstar.

 

Interesting Avatar btw, Pick axes and I H8PITT. Are you a miner?

[IH8PITT]

I'm from West Virginia, and I'm a diehard WVU fan.

[MrKush]

There is no viable excuse to claim that glitching for $$ is a necessity. Poor money management is exactly that. He just enjoys glitching too much. Everyone is always looking for the easy way out. He's a creature of habit who cannot break said habit

[ashbashbluesfan]

I think what didn't help a lot of people was being gifted billions, a lot of people that had no money can suddenly buy every item in the game and call any service with not even a thought towards their finances, most of my friends bought every car in the game fully modded and then just replaced them, hell I even used to customise a random car for 300K just to go pickup my entity from the impound.

 

Now that money has been taken away it's difficult for many people to get back into the way of grinding missions, which is why a lot more people want to glitch to get that money faster again.

[Fail_At_GTA]

 

 

 

I'll ask why he had to sell a car, from memory he said he had no option.

Sounds unlikely... as unlikely as your avatar and I meeting for a hot date...

 

Down Boy. She's mine

 

anyone ever play scarface on ps2? smuggling coke on boats and selling drugs, and that was like 10 years ago, surely gta can implement this by now.

They did in Chinatown Wars in Liberty City. I have heard rumours a while ago that gambling at the casino and drug dealing were meant to be in GTAO, but such things sound like proposals at best and pipe dreams at worst. In any case I see no reason they won't happen and at least one of them can't happen in the next update (if speculation is to be beleived).

 

My friend glitches in 100-200k every time he gets close to broke. Some people aren't good at missions. Another one of my friends has MS which is eating away at his brain so he doesn't have complete focus when he's doing stuff. He cant aim with guns or drive too well, but he really enjoys the game. It would suck for him if he couldn't even drive fast cars. Then again, this is not the case for the vast majority of players. It all comes down to who is lazy tbh.

 

If I want money, I do missions like Rooftop Rumble or Coveted but recently I glitched in some cash because I needed to organize my garage. Its all situational.

Sorry to hear about your friend. If he needs a hand I'm sure people here will be more than happy to help. Same here. Your friend could ride Chopper Gunner in the Buzzard. There's quite a few missions for that.

 

I actually just talked with him after teaching him how to play Rooftop Rumble a few days ago and beat it easily. He struggles a bit but he got from rank 94 to 102 all by himself and I'm proud of him for that. He also has something like 1.6M in cash too. I don't think he will need to glitch to get by anymore.

[Cornbat]

Every time I play I do whatever I enjoy. My cash balance just keeps going up and up. I don't enjoy getting into pointless battles in free mode. Maybe the game economy is set up to reward some kinds of play more than others?