Rockstar actually balanced the game for beginners

[Bozzah]

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

[malcolmfunktion]

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

I sometimes go back to using the pistol if I'm feeling adventurous...especially with the Heavy pistol...nice to get just one clean head shot on a frantic combat rolling lunatic with a ak47

[CarimboHanky]

yeah those guns give low levels more chances of survival in this violent city.

 

even know they would have to be

careful, its really easy to go trigger happy with that carbine, running out of ammo in no time, while still working for cheap bastard simeon... not cool!

[fish61324]

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

R* did this so that more people would BUY their game and thus more people would buy shark cards.....

 

99.9% of R*'s moves are motivated by money. They do not care about their core fans, they don't even care about their regular fans.

 

There is a difference between running a profitable business and just being plain sleazy and greedy.

 

oh and the other 0.01%..... actually you know? I'm sitting here trying to wrap my head around what the other 0.01% could be.... I'm convinced R* ONLY cares about the money. They take no pride in their work.

[DerpCat]

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

[Alec Skorpio]

The fact that they make these high powered weapons available without a level restriction just proves how much of a bull sh*t system locking out weapons by levels really is.

 

You know what would have been balanced? The only factor behind buying weapons being the cash you had.

[Coin]

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

[Sky_Light12]

even that's the balance , their shooting skill also low which means they had pretty low ammo and most of them use extended magazine . if they keep wasting it or dies if that weapon has extended magazine , more ammo he/she loses

[beat_savy_9]

I sometimes go back to using the pistol if I'm feeling adventurous...especially with the Heavy pistol...nice to get just one clean head shot on a frantic combat rolling lunatic with a ak47

 

all I ever use nowadays is the bat

[PG.]

That is a bad thing imo. We all used to be noobs and I think it's not fair and disrespectful to the people who played since october because the noobs can have everything without earning it by ranking up and grinding missions

[Q_Man]

That is a bad thing imo. We all used to be noobs and I think it's not fair and disrespectful to the people who played since october because the noobs can have everything without earning it by ranking up and grinding missions

You mean like when we did all that work to get gifted billions and some ppl even went crazy with there rank? Its a gun who cares lol.

Edited March 15, 2014 by Q_Man

[PG.]

 

That is a bad thing imo. We all used to be noobs and I think it's not fair and disrespectful to the people who played since october because the noobs can have everything without earning it by ranking up and grinding missions

You mean like when we did all that work to get gifted billions and some ppl even went crazy with there rank? Its a gun who cares lol. I do. Rockstar should make this game less noob friendly

[The47Finn]

I think it's fair enough that newbies get a half decent gun to protect themselves. When I say half decent, actually, the special carbine is probably nearly on a par with the advanced rifle.

 

Anyway, don't forget that while they might have a decent carbine, the new people still suffer from having next to no maximum health, no access to decent bulletproof vests (does anyone above level 40 wear them anymore?) and no experience.

 

Crucially, they have no sticky bombs. So you can still booby trap a fancy car and make them look silly if you want.

I actually go out of my way to help players from level 3 to 7. Taking them along to hold up shops, inviting them to decent mission etc. I think if they get off to a start where they realise that not everybody is after them, it will make the game a better experience for all.

Erm.

 

That sounds really gay.

Sod it. Logging on and slaughtering some newbies now.

[chatD4VIS-360]

 

 

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

R* did this so that more people would BUY their game and thus more people would buy shark cards.....

 

99.9% of R*'s moves are motivated by money. They do not care about their core fans, they don't even care about their regular fans.

 

There is a difference between running a profitable business and just being plain sleazy and greedy.

 

oh and the other 0.01%..... actually you know? I'm sitting here trying to wrap my head around what the other 0.01% could be.... I'm convinced R* ONLY cares about the money. They take no pride in their work.

Then quietly put down the game and leave forever. But you're still here. Slave.

[PG.]

 

Erm.

 

That sounds really gay.

Sod it. Logging on and slaughtering some newbies now.

[slowburn29]

 

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

R* did this so that more people would BUY their game and thus more people would buy shark cards.....

 

99.9% of R*'s moves are motivated by money. They do not care about their core fans, they don't even care about their regular fans.

 

There is a difference between running a profitable business and just being plain sleazy and greedy.

 

oh and the other 0.01%..... actually you know? I'm sitting here trying to wrap my head around what the other 0.01% could be.... I'm convinced R* ONLY cares about the money. They take no pride in their work.

 

 

Wipe your mouth you selfish little bitch

[DerpCat]

 

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

 

Compare the stats for the tommy gun, and the special carbine to the ak47, smg and assault smg, Its not even close, and without a lvl requirement...it makes the weapons useless.

 

Just like how the sns pistol is useless compared to the new heavy pistol in every stat.

[StewNorth]

Been lvl120+ for months, couldnt care either way about weapon lockouts. The extra guns for lowbies will definitely help them out against the mid lvl players (40 to 70) but they will still hit a curb stomp when it comes to the high level players.

 

But hey, GTA doesnt scream balance to me anyway.

[DrAnomalous]

Balance takes place depending on every individuals learning curve. I'm a level 120+ and I've been using the AK and Mac-10 even though I have all the weapons. Feels great to kill an aggressive noob with a pistol, while they're firing off a combat machine gun all over the place.

[8up local]

i think it was the right decision to let low ranks have a better wep. now i do think the higher the rank you are the better weps you can have, but when the higher ranks can and do mess with these lower ranks when they know those guys don't have the firepower to defend themselves, then they need to have these higher powered weps. makes me think of the time i saw a rank 237 spawn killing a rank 3 and yelling into the mic about how bad ass he was and how the rank 3 had nothing on him. the guy kept chasing the rank 3 down even though the rank 3 was trying to run away. how brave and bad ass is that though really? funny part was when a rank 120 showed up and started handing that rank237 his ass till the 237 rage quit. i literally was laughing so hard i couldn't hold my controller.

[Coin]

 

 

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

 

Compare the stats for the tommy gun, and the special carbine to the ak47, smg and assault smg, Its not even close, and without a lvl requirement...it makes the weapons useless.

 

Just like how the sns pistol is useless compared to the new heavy pistol in every stat.

 

 

It doesn't. The stats are practically meaningless. Just like they are, for in-class weaponry, in most FPS games.

 

You can kill anyone, with any gun, regardless of what gun they happened to be wielding. I was owning a rank 140+ dude with the starting pistol on a rank character ffs lol

Edited March 15, 2014 by Insert-Coin-To-Continue

[DerpCat]

 

 

 

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

 

Compare the stats for the tommy gun, and the special carbine to the ak47, smg and assault smg, Its not even close, and without a lvl requirement...it makes the weapons useless.

 

Just like how the sns pistol is useless compared to the new heavy pistol in every stat.

 

 

It doesn't. The stats are practically meaningless. Just like they are, for in-class weaponry, in most FPS games.

 

You can kill anyone, with any gun, regardless of what gun they happened to be wielding. I was owning a rank 140+ dude with the starting pistol on a rank character ffs lol

 

The gun stats paint a clear picture, the heavy pistol is better in every way compared to the sns and combat pistol. From fire rate, to damage, its better in every possible way. Just like the tommy gun and special carbine are better then the smgs. Just saying if 2 players go head to head, the one with the better weapon most likely wins. You cant argue with game stats now.

Edited March 15, 2014 by DerpCat

[ezfaun]

 

 

 

 

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

 

Compare the stats for the tommy gun, and the special carbine to the ak47, smg and assault smg, Its not even close, and without a lvl requirement...it makes the weapons useless.

 

Just like how the sns pistol is useless compared to the new heavy pistol in every stat.

 

 

It doesn't. The stats are practically meaningless. Just like they are, for in-class weaponry, in most FPS games.

 

You can kill anyone, with any gun, regardless of what gun they happened to be wielding. I was owning a rank 140+ dude with the starting pistol on a rank character ffs lol

 

The gun stats paint a clear picture, the heavy pistol is better in every way compared to the sns and combat pistol. From fire rate, to damage, its better in every possible way. Just like the tommy gun and special carbine are better then the smgs. Just saying if 2 players go head to head, the one with the better weapon most likely wins. You cant argue with game stats now.

 

Not.... really. I love using my combat pistols to land shots that otherwise would have been a spray fest in certain conditions.

[DerpCat]

 

 

 

 

 

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

Assault rifle and SMG/Assault SMG being useless? That's news to me.

 

Compare the stats for the tommy gun, and the special carbine to the ak47, smg and assault smg, Its not even close, and without a lvl requirement...it makes the weapons useless.

 

Just like how the sns pistol is useless compared to the new heavy pistol in every stat.

 

 

It doesn't. The stats are practically meaningless. Just like they are, for in-class weaponry, in most FPS games.

 

You can kill anyone, with any gun, regardless of what gun they happened to be wielding. I was owning a rank 140+ dude with the starting pistol on a rank character ffs lol

 

The gun stats paint a clear picture, the heavy pistol is better in every way compared to the sns and combat pistol. From fire rate, to damage, its better in every possible way. Just like the tommy gun and special carbine are better then the smgs. Just saying if 2 players go head to head, the one with the better weapon most likely wins. You cant argue with game stats now.

 

Not.... really. I love using my combat pistols to land shots that otherwise would have been a spray fest in certain conditions.

 

[al_balmer]

If they wanted everyone to have an advantage from the start, why does the Minigun become available at 120?

[bloatedsack]

This isnt balance......they made ak47' and smg/assault smg useless.

 

You unlock the SMG at 11.

You unlock the AK47 at 24.

 

Neither of these are hard to accomplish. It was stupid and wasteful to make the special carbine anything less than 130. The heavy pistol should've been 110 since there's nothing there.

 

For those of us who have the Advanced Rifle (level 70+), the Special Carbine is a rifle that sounds different and provides absolutely no discernable reason for me to use.

 

The Gusenberg is a different animal. It was limited time, so to level lock it would've been a disservice to people who were new to the game when it was out. They did right in allowing anyone of any level to obtain the Gusenberg.

[Punisher.]

Well said OP, good job R*

 

for a god damn change.

[iainspad]

I just realized how smart it was by them to make stuff like the special carbine avaiable from the beginning.

 

When GTA Online started, everybody was about the same level. After some months, a huge gap between the levels was there because the "veterans" were mostly above lvl 70 while there were total noobs.

They could not do sh*t against them.

 

Now the noobs have pretty good weapons avaiable so they have much higher chances of defending themselves

Then it's just a case of upping their shooting skill, and they're all set. It's good that they get specific weapons at the start because trying to fight off someone 70 levels up or less is a f*cking suicide mission, particularly since it's easy to improve your shooting skill while doing various things around the map.

Edited March 15, 2014 by iainspad