The IV versus V debate

[Official General]

@ sibs44

 

Answer my question, don't avoid it. What did you mean earlier by me "turning black since my last post" ?? Come on let's hear it bro.

 

@ FranklinDeF**King idiot

 

Little Jacob's drug missions involved Niko picking up drug packages for LJ and selling them onto others in drug deals, then he got paid his own cut for doing it. If that's not a form of drug dealing then I don't know what is. I gave you a list of things I like in GTA IV+EFLC not just the crime stuff you idiot, you can clearly see that I did that. IV has much more crime-related stuff than V, you can't tell me otherwise. Go and enjoy your stupid yoga, triathlon and other leisure stuff in V, and leave us real GTA fans to get involved with the gritty crime stuff on offer on IV. You are happy and we are happy, now get lost.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[Smith John]

@FranklinDeRoosevelt - Are the insults really necessary? This a debate, not a fight. People are so hostile.

If there's anyone least deserving of any courtesy, it's Official General- a member who has a long history of throwing around insults like an angry child.

 

@ FranklinDeF**King idiot

...as just proved...

Edited April 6, 2014 by Lucchese

[Xerukal]

Go and enjoy your stupid yoga, triathlon and other leisure stuff in V, and leave us real GTA fans to get involved with the gritty crime stuff on offer on IV. You are happy and we are happy, now get lost.

You ungrateful little sh*t. Have you no appreciation for variety in a series? Must you be fed the exact same generic crime story with a different paint on it? For f*cks sakes. There are people out there who haven't TOUCHED Grand Theft Auto V. They're PC gamers. My good friends. And they'd KILL to enjoy this game on their platform of choice.

 

And you're here being a complete and total elitist prick. "Real GTA Fans". f*ck off. Who are you to say what a "real" GTA fan is? Take a look in retrospect and realize that GTA could've been a giant steaming sh*te of a series. But it is filled with wonderful gems that are made by hard-working people.

 

V broke out and tried to focus on a different FORM of crime. Corruption of officers and the government. This was present in past GTAs, but not to such a high degree. V focused on it. Some enjoyed it, some didn't. But at least they tried SOMETHING. Can you not respect this at the very least and move on?

Edited April 6, 2014 by Xerukal

[Official General]

@ Lucheese

 

The Houser created GTA from III onwards and that's what I'm referring to. Anyway's keep up my fame, it's all good

 

@ Xerukal

 

 

You ungrateful little sh*t. Have you no appreciation for variety in a series? Must you be fed the exact same generic crime story with a different paint on it? For f*cks sakes. There are people out there who haven't TOUCHED Grand Theft Auto V. They're PC gamers. My good friends. And they'd KILL to enjoy this game on their platform of choice.

And you're here being a complete and total elitist prick. "Real GTA Fans". f*ck off. Who are you to say what a "real" GTA fan is? Take a look in retrospect and realize that GTA could've been a giant steaming sh*te of a series. But it is filled with wonderful gems that are made by hard-working people.

 

You're taking this too seriously to the point it's getting personal. It's one thing ridiculing others comments and having a bit of a banter and rivalry, but I'm not gonna allow myself to get dragged into intense personal insult battles. There are limits to be had, we are only discussing video games after all. FranklinDeRoosevlt is already trying to provoke me and I struck at him, and now you. I'm no long replying to your posts on this thread, so consider our discussion ended here. The same will apply to FranklinDeRoosvelt if he continues.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Wow, goddamn. Official was supposed to post proper features that could be used in free roam, instead he uses ONE example of drug dealing used in a couple of MISSIONS. I'm actually mind blown. Either this guy is an extreme retard from the mental hospital or he is trolling. Drug Dealing was NOT in the game at all, in free roaming aspect, so why did you have to lie about that? GTA V also uses drug dealing if you consider that Gerald makes you deliver them in GTA Online, did you forget about that? What about when Lamar and Franklin and Trevor went to buy drugs of a guy in the hood and the deal went bust?

 

Also, if you think I am not a real GTA fan, you shouldn't even be touching this game, since you are an ungrateful little c*nt who thinks he's a big boy on a gaming forum and don't know what the game is revolved around. I've played every GTA since 1 and loved every game. The only games I didn't play are VCS and CH. I mean, are you that delusional you think you are popular here?

Edited April 6, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Official General]

Wow, goddamn. Official was supposed to post proper features that could be used in free roam, instead he uses ONE example of drug dealing used in a MISSION. I'm actually mind blown. Either this guy is an extreme retard from the mental hospital or he is trolling. Drug Dealing was NOT in the game at all, in free roaming aspect, so why did you have to lie about that? GTA V also uses drug dealing if you consider that Gerald makes you deliver them in GTA Online, did you forget about that? What about when Lamar and Franklin and Trevor went to buy drugs of a guy in the hood and the deal went bust?

 

Bro, ok whatever, can't be botherd for all this right now. In your head, V is better than IV. Now go and enjoy your yoga and explorable exteriors.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

So now just because I sh*tted on his posts about IV's features, he uses the same "Yoga" excuses. I'll end it right here. I don't wanna lose my IQ talking to an uninformed loser. Can't be bothered my ass, you just can't accept that you were wrong.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Smith John]

Go and enjoy your stupid yoga, triathlon and other leisure stuff in V

Ah, the good old, tired-out argument of desperation. Remember folks, V is a yoga game- nothing more, nothing less...

 

and leave us real GTA fans...

So who are these "real" fans exactly? Please do humour me.

 

...to get involved with the gritty crime stuff on offer on IV

Pretty sure this was on offer in V, given R* took one of the most popular missions in IV, and expanded and multiplied it. "oh but fed governmt bulsh*t iznt [email protected]##$".....

 

The Houser created GTA from III onwards and that's what I'm referring to.

No, you suggested the Houser brothers created GTA. Perhaps you may want to word your posts a little better next time.

 

Anyway's keep up my fame, it's all good

Believe me, it's not the type of "fame" you should be proud of.

 

Anyway, how did I get roped into this sh*t again. Dam you 'boring Sunday afternoons'!

Edited April 6, 2014 by Lucchese

[œaœa]

@ sibs44

 

Answer my question, don't avoid it. What did you mean earlier by me "turning black since my last post" ?? Come on let's hear it bro.

I don't know why you're trying to act hard lol, I clearly bolded the sentence that made you sound black, stop getting defensive broski.

Edited April 6, 2014 by sibs44

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Ikr, I remember him talking a lot of sh*t on Getzmunney's thread about gangs in GTA V. He actually thought he knew everything about gangs, to the point where he talked like a gang member himself. Truth be told, he's probably some bullied low life sitting in the basement pretending that he's a gangster.

[Eutyphro]

pfffff, stop harassing OG you guys. He is pretty much right factually. IV is more street crime and gang crime focused than V. And if he likes IV more than V and wants to call V a yoga and exterior exploration simulator then let him. The only reason he is typifying it like that is to troll all of you back.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

I can accept IV being a more crime focused game, of course. I mean it's really obvious here. But definitely NOT gang crime. You do not see a single gang attacking other gangs or even a single member provoking you. There isn't even gang activity in IV. But gangs definitely such as the triads, dominicans were implemented but didn't do sh*t. Well the dominicans were only in EFLC. Oh and the lost bikers.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[œaœa]

pfffff, stop harassing OG you guys. He is pretty much right factually. IV is more street crime and gang crime focused than V. And if he likes IV more than V and wants to call V a yoga and exterior exploration simulator then let him. The only reason he is typifying it like that is to troll all of you back.

I'm not saying he's wrong, I love both of these games, this is just funny.

Edited April 6, 2014 by sibs44

[Tycek]

Can some mod please come here and lock this topic before all these people start to bite each other?

[jeanrjm]

This is becoming GTA wars.

We all here are GTA fans and have our preferences.

 

The posts are not going to change each one's thougts.

This topic will only generate fights.

 

Let's hope VI will be good for everyone, so we will only post how awesome it is.

Have a good sunday people.

Edited April 6, 2014 by jeanrjm

[Eutyphro]

TLaD was very gang focused, but if I'll say that we'll get into a bullsh*t discussion about wether TLaD is IV. This sh*t is so predictable.

 

Anyway, I don't understand why the executions were gone in V. Those were great in IV.

[Smith John]

 

 

pfffff, stop harassing OG you guys

He clearly brings it on himself.

 

 

 

He is pretty much right factually. IV is more street crime and gang crime focused than V

Quite so, and V is more professional crime and government corruption focused. Why must every GTA be exactly the same?

 

 

 

The only reason he is typifying it like that is to troll all of you back.

Troll all of us back? Would you care to explain this trolling that's been afforded his way?

[Eutyphro]

 

He is pretty much right factually. IV is more street crime and gang crime focused than V

Quite so, and V is more professional crime and government corruption focused. Why must every GTA be exactly the same?

 

Firstly, organized crime like in IV is often highly professional. Secondly, an argument can be made that organized crime syndicates and street crime have always been an essential part of the GTA formula, and that when they are not included in a high enough amount that it feels like something is missing to some people. Now you might argue that it is not esential to you, and that's fine. That is a matter of taste.

[Voggs]

Anyway, I don't understand why the executions were gone in V. Those were great in IV.

Yeah, they were pretty epic, killing characters in V is just like killing any other random ped. But there isn't many characters to execute though, because they leave all the antagonists to kill in Ending C, wich is a bit lame. They could've easily killed Stretch and Wei-Cheng before in separate missions.

[JaysonVoorhees]

SP: In terms of gameplay, V is superior, aside from some issues in where police will only kill civilians instead of arrest them for the most minor of crimes (like denting their car when they were shunted into the by someone else) and how there is no knock out or incapacitation - there is only death, no matter what.

 

In terms of story, IV is far superior because having only one protagonist per storyline means more of a focus and background on the individual.

 

In terms of online, V simply has more to offer than IV. Though sticky bombs in GTA5 are annoying and overused. Tanks are annoying too but thankfully I don't see them much.

Edited April 6, 2014 by JaysonVoorhees

[Official General]

 

@ sibs44

 

Answer my question, don't avoid it. What did you mean earlier by me "turning black since my last post" ?? Come on let's hear it bro.

I don't know why you're trying to act hard lol, I clearly bolded the sentence that made you sound black, stop getting defensive broski.

 

 

First of all, you wanna talk to Lucheese. He admitted to me that when he was younger, he used to act 'black' and dress hip-hop, gangsta style like he was a Blood or Crip from Compton ghetto, until he finally realized that he's white and from a little wee village some where in remote Scotland. Now he believes the whole gangsta, rap culture to be stupid and immature and he's now grown out of it. If you don't believe me, ask him yourself.

 

Secondly, how can turn black, if I was black in the first place ? You don't know whether I am or not, you have just assumed that I'm not.You see how dumb you sound ?? You don't even know my ethnicity and yet you end up say something so stupid, you idiot.

 

@ FranklinDeRoosevlt

 

Lool you sure are funny. Me pretending to be a gangster ?? Ha ha !!

 

Yeah well, let's just say I always wanted to be a gangster, but I knew it I could not as it is illegal to be one. So playing GTA is next best thing

 

@ gtaxpert

 

 

Firstly, organized crime like in IV is often highly professional. Secondly, an argument can be made that organized crime syndicates and street crime have always been an essential part of the GTA formula, and that when they are not included in a high enough amount that it feels like something is missing to some people. Now you might argue that it is not esential to you, and that's fine. That is a matter of taste.

 

This

 

Most hardcore GTA fans would agree with this.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[peluche503]

Firstly, organized crime like in IV is often highly professional. Secondly, an argument can be made that organized crime syndicates and street crime have always been an essential part of the GTA formula, and that when they are not included in a high enough amount that it feels like something is missing to some people. Now you might argue that it is not esential to you, and that's fine. That is a matter of taste.

 

 

The only crime side mission I didn't like IV were the terrible repetitive assassination missions but everything like car thefts, LJ's drug dealings, Most wanted and vigilante were good.

 

GTA V had some great ideas such as the rampages and the bail bonds which are much better than most wanted and vigilante but because there were barely any of them, I can't give them that much credit.

Edited April 6, 2014 by peluche503

[Smith John]

 

 

Firstly, organized crime like in IV is often highly professional.

So we can agree that both games had a focus on professional criminal enterprise?

 

 

 

Secondly, an argument can be made that organized crime syndicates and street crime have always been an essential part of the GTA formula

I agree. However, I'm open to trying new things if it works well and pays off, and as far as I'm concerned, it did exactly that. We had glimpses of these kind of things in past GTA's, so it's not as if it was something completely alien to the series. R* just wanted to go more in-depth with and bring something fresh to the table. GTA is an action/adventure game with a crime theme, and government corruption is crime, so in no way did V drift away from the principle backbone of the franchise's narrative.

[Official General]

 

Firstly, organized crime like in IV is often highly professional. Secondly, an argument can be made that organized crime syndicates and street crime have always been an essential part of the GTA formula, and that when they are not included in a high enough amount that it feels like something is missing to some people. Now you might argue that it is not esential to you, and that's fine. That is a matter of taste.

 

 

The only crime side mission I didn't like IV were the terrible repetitive assassination missions but everything like car thefts, LJ's drug dealings, Most wanted and vigilante were good.

 

GTA V had some great ideas such as the rampages and the bail bonds which are much better than most wanted and vigilante but because there were barely any of them, I can't give them that much credit.

 

 

@ peluche

 

At last we can agree on something. You got the right idea, that's my problem with V, there is a clear lack of crime-related side missions. Even the ones Trevor had were very small, it was nowhere near satisfactory. And it was made worse for me because I don't like playing as Trevor. Franklin and Michael pretty much had no side crime-related missions at all, and this excludes random encounters.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[Smith John]

 

 

First of all, you wanna talk to Lucheese. He admitted to me that when he was younger, he used to act 'black' and dress hip-hop style,

Oh god...not this crap again...

 

Clutching at straws, General? And I see you're making things up about me once more. Seriously mate, leave the personal attacks out, and grow the f*ck up already...

[peluche503]

 

 

@ peluche

 

At last we can agree on something. You got the right idea, that's my problem with V, there is a clear lack of crime-related side missions. Even the ones Trevor had were very small, it was nowhere near satisfactory. And it was made worse for me because I don't like playing as Trevor. Franklin and Michael pretty much had no side crime-related missions at all, and this excludes random encounters.

 

 

For me the best Trevor side mission is got to be the arms trafficking, that was a satisfying crime related side mission.

 

Random encounters IMO were some of the best times I had within the GTA series because the diversity in all of those crimes encounters were great.

 

But yeah I've always found myself complaining that some of the concepts in the game were great but not satisfactory.

Edited April 6, 2014 by peluche503

[Detective Phelps]

Can't we just have a civilised debate instead of having insults flying around?

Both IV and V are great games!

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Can some mod please come here and lock this topic before all these people start to bite each other?

This, these people have proved that this thread is no longer needed. All its going to do is bring more petty arguments and insults.

[œaœa]

 

 

@ sibs44

 

Answer my question, don't avoid it. What did you mean earlier by me "turning black since my last post" ?? Come on let's hear it bro.

I don't know why you're trying to act hard lol, I clearly bolded the sentence that made you sound black, stop getting defensive broski.

 

 

First of all, you wanna talk to Lucheese. He admitted to me that when he was younger, he used to act 'black' and dress hip-hop, gangsta style like he was a Blood or Crip from Compton ghetto, until he finally realized that he's white and from a little wee village some where in remote Scotland. Now he believes the whole gangsta, rap culture to be stupid and immature and he's now grown out of it. If you don't believe me, ask him yourself.

 

Secondly, how can turn black, if I was black in the first place ? You don't know whether I am or not, you have just assumed that I'm not.You see how dumb you sound ?? You don't even know my ethnicity and yet you end up say something so stupid, you idiot.

Dude, you're really slow. LOL.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

 

 

@ sibs44

 

Answer my question, don't avoid it. What did you mean earlier by me "turning black since my last post" ?? Come on let's hear it bro.

I don't know why you're trying to act hard lol, I clearly bolded the sentence that made you sound black, stop getting defensive broski.

 

 

First of all, you wanna talk to Lucheese. He admitted to me that when he was younger, he used to act 'black' and dress hip-hop, gangsta style like he was a Blood or Crip from Compton ghetto, until he finally realized that he's white and from a little wee village some where in remote Scotland. Now he believes the whole gangsta, rap culture to be stupid and immature and he's now grown out of it. If you don't believe me, ask him yourself.

 

Secondly, how can turn black, if I was black in the first place ? You don't know whether I am or not, you have just assumed that I'm not.You see how dumb you sound ?? You don't even know my ethnicity and yet you end up say something so stupid, you idiot.

Dude, you're really slow. LOL.

 

Yes, because saying that is going to make him shut up...