The IV versus V debate

[œaœa]

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

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You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

The last page was the most utterly stupid rubbish I've read since the pre-release complaint threads. I'm sorry, but almost none of you all know how to have a sensible discussion. CantThinkof, you're too defensive. Lucchese, you take things too seriously, Officer Ronson, just stop. Its just getting overly ridiculous.

 

@CantThinkof, its ironic that you liked Lucchese's comment because he is referring to people like you.

Edited April 6, 2014 by StingrayX

[Geralt of Rivia]

The last page was the most utterly stupid rubbish I've read since the pre-release complaint threads. I'm sorry, but almost none of you all know how to have a sensible discussion. CantThinkof, you're too defensive. Lucchese, you take things too seriously, Officer Ronson, just stop. Its just getting overly ridiculous.

 

@CantThinkof, its ironic that you liked Lucchese's comment because he is referring to people like you.

You didn't name me! I feel special!

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

The last page was the most utterly stupid rubbish I've read since the pre-release complaint threads. I'm sorry, but almost none of you all know how to have a sensible discussion. CantThinkof, you're too defensive. Lucchese, you take things too seriously, Officer Ronson, just stop. Its just getting overly ridiculous.

 

@CantThinkof, its ironic that you liked Lucchese's comment because he is referring to people like you.

 

You didn't name me! I feel special! No. You're just TheMasterForgotten. Edited April 6, 2014 by SonOfLiberty

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

 

The last page was the most utterly stupid rubbish I've read since the pre-release complaint threads. I'm sorry, but almost none of you all know how to have a sensible discussion. CantThinkof, you're too defensive. Lucchese, you take things too seriously, Officer Ronson, just stop. Its just getting overly ridiculous.

 

@CantThinkof, its ironic that you liked Lucchese's comment because he is referring to people like you.

You didn't name me! I feel special!

No. You're just TheMasterForgotten.

 

Well. That's just depressing lol.

 

Sounds like a Dark Souls Boss. I'm oddly OK with that.

[Official General]

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

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You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

 

@ SOL

 

You sure damn right about that. It seems like we've made Lucheese cry. Awwww, someone got tissues at hand for him ?

 

@ sibs44

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

 

You do realize that this is a forum about GTA ? Arguing is an integral part of being involved in forum discussions, that's why it's called a forum bro. Or did you not know that ? If you don't know that, then why are you here ?

 

 

@ Lucheese

 

Still closely following my posts I see. As my biggest fan and follower,I really do appreciate your attention, I must say though. I never realized that I'd have such a profound effect on the life of someone I've never met or personally known, a random stranger on an internet forum. It amazes me that you're obsessed with my posts after all this time has gone past. Seriously, I will never forget the huge amount of fame and following you have awarded me on this site. It's great to know that all I have to do is post a comment on here to command your attention - I basically pull the strings when you talk. You only exist on this site because of my comments. Wow, such power and fame is amazing !!

 

CantThinkOfOne2013

 

 

It all comes down to opinion about what the story should be about, I said what I said because many people are saying that the story is not crime related enough. Anyway, every GTA has been about something different so there is no rule about what or what not shouldn't be in the game.

 

Forgive me for thinking that GTA as a rule, has always been generally been centered on organized crime and gangs before GTA V when :

 

* Every GTA since the very first one have all been mostly about organized crime and gangs.

 

* The Houser brothers themselves said in numerous interviews, their reason behind the creation of GTA was entirely based on their fascination with American or American-based organized crime and gang culture.

 

* The main concept of GTA gameplay is committing crimes for money - that is essentially the main drive for why organized crime and gangs exist in real life.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[jeanrjm]

For who likes to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

 

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

 

Also IV has better cheats which you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

Edited April 6, 2014 by jeanrjm

[Geralt of Rivia]

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

 

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

 

Also IV have better cheats that you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

Yeah, it's easy to compare things when you list one's negatives and compare them to one's positives. That's not biased in any way!

[Algonquin Assassin]

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

Also IV has better cheats which you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

To be fair GTA IV's cheats themselves are kind of sh*t, but I do prefer them being placed in the phone.

[œaœa]

 

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

.

You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

 

@ sibs44

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

 

You do realize that this is a forum about GTA ? Arguing is an integral part of being involved in forum discussions, that's why it's called a forum bro. Or did you not know that ? If you don't know that, then why are you here ?

There are meaningful arguments, but then there are trivial arguments that aren't really going to change anything at the end of the day. But I must have hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn't have responded to this. Funny part is, it wasn't even directed at you!

Edited April 6, 2014 by sibs44

[jeanrjm]

 

 

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

 

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

 

Also IV have better cheats that you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

Yeah, it's easy to compare things when you list one's negatives and compare them to one's positives. That's not biased in any way!

GTA V's positives are the graphics, snapmatic and weapons/radio wheels.

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

Also IV has better cheats which you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

To be fair GTA IV's cheats themselves are kind of sh*t, but I do prefer them being placed in the phone.

 

GTA IV's and V cheats suck ass, although V clearly has the better cheats. I just wish the invincibility didn't have a timer. No idea what's up with that.

 

I think R*'s just f*cking with us now.

 

jeanjrm: Those are the only positives for you? I have plenty of more positives than that.

 

Edit: Grammar. Jesus Christ I'm bad this morning

Edited April 6, 2014 by TheMasterfocker

[jeanrjm]

 

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA IV brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice.

Also IV has better cheats which you can rapidly activate on your cellphone, and if you like to do rampages, without being killed in a few shots, then you'll be very happy with IV and what it has to offer.

To be fair GTA IV's cheats themselves are kind of sh*t, but I do prefer them being placed in the phone. yes I agree with you. But for rampages they're fine.

Rampages in the hospital are nice. Shooting cops with a RPG. Body physics are way better in IV

Edited April 6, 2014 by jeanrjm

[Official General]

 

 

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

.

You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

 

@ sibs44

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

 

You do realize that this is a forum about GTA ? Arguing is an integral part of being involved in forum discussions, that's why it's called a forum bro. Or did you not know that ? If you don't know that, then why are you here ?

There are meaningful arguments, but then there are trivial arguments that aren't really going to change anything at the end of the day. But I must have hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn't have responded to this. Funny part is, it wasn't even directed at you!

 

 

Well nobody was trying to change anything in the first place, I never heard anyone arguing on here say that they were going to either. The point of this is just to discuss, debate, argue, analyze, it is not to change anything. So I don't get your point regarding that. If you want to join in the discussion and give meaningful contributions, please feel free to do so. But it's no good coming in here making useless comments if you are not gonna contribute, or else it's highly likely you will get unwanted responses.

 

No, you have not touched a nerve, and it don't matter if you directed the comment at someone else. It's forum, that's idea, to form an open discussion NOW you get it ? Ta da !

 

@ Jimbatron

 

I think Trevor being a protagonist was a terrible idea, but that's not the main reason I felt letdown by GTA V though. I could have been more tolerant of Trevor being in V if the game had been much better overall in other areas.

 

@ Masterfocker

 

jeanjrm: Those are the only positives for you? I have plenty of more positives than that.

 

Your idea of what is positive in GTA is not always gonna be the same as everybody else's is it now ? It's nice to know you have many, but unfortunately some of us have much better tastes and ideas, no disrespect.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[Xerukal]

@ Lucheese

 

I basically pull the strings when you talk. You only exist on this site because of my comments. Wow, such power and fame is amazing !!

That is incorrect. He exists on these forums because his brain had, at some point in time, thought registering on these forums. The thought was simply conceived. And you had nothing to do with the conception of this thought.

 

How does this make you feel? Your illusion of control is shattered. You pull no strings. Because replies to your posts are basic human reactions based on feelings and thoughts. This is not something you should announce publicly. For the same reasons I wouldn't announce pressing down a key on my keyboard and watching it react to my finger's pressure. It's no achievement. It's simply everyday life.

 

Please get over it and stop trying to twist people's reactions to your favor. Humans don't work that way.

 

 

inb4: "It's called sarcasm/you're taking it too seriously/take a chill pill" predictable reactions. See? I can try and manipulate reactions too. It's fun.

 

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Edited April 6, 2014 by Xerukal

[Official General]

 

@ Lucheese

 

I basically pull the strings when you talk. You only exist on this site because of my comments. Wow, such power and fame is amazing !!

That is incorrect. He exists on these forums because his brain had, at some point in time, thought registering on these forums. The thought was simply conceived. And you had nothing to do with the conception of this thought.

 

How does this make you feel? Your illusion of control is shattered. You pull no strings. Because replies to your posts are basic human reactions based on feelings and thoughts. This is not something you should announce publicly. For the same reasons I wouldn't announce pressing down a key on my keyboard and watching it react to my finger's pressure. It's no achievement. It's simply everyday life.

 

Please get over it and stop trying to twist people's reactions to your favor. Humans don't work that way.

 

 

inb4: "It's called sarcasm/you're taking it too seriously/take a chill pill" predictable reactions. See? I can try and manipulate reactions too. It's fun.

 

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Oh I love the way my fan club and fame on here is rapidly growing !!!! I LOVE IT !!!! BRING THE NOISE !!!!

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[Tilemaxx]

For who likes a to play a short story with three under developed characters, then expend time messing around a city without interiors, mountain, other mountain, more mountains, lifeless towns, being killed by the supercops, playing yoga or tennis, or flying from LS to a desert, yes GTA V is perfect.

 

But who want more from GTA and liked the concepts GTA I

 

V brought, like physics, a more realistic driving, a more developed story, the friend hangouts(with background stories to tell), well GTA IV will be your choice,

1. No interiors argument. Copying from a previous post of mine regarding interiors:

 

You will see some unused interiors (mission-only), but just because you can't access them after that point, it doesn't mean that they are not present at all. It's up to the developer on whether they unlock them or not, but they are there. Yes, we have seen some high-detailed interiors not accessible after a certain mission, and that's unfortunate. However, that doesn't prove or show anything about "bad game design". In fact, it shows us that R* has created some super-detailed interiors this time, but for their own reasons decided to make them unavailable after missions. There's a strong possibility to see some of them unlocked after the SP DLC, so only time will tell.

 

2. "Underdeveloped chars". No they aren't. Michael is as good as any previous GTA protagonist, his story evolves well within the game. It's interesting to see a retirer gangster to go back into business with old friends and using new tricks an toys this time. Same goes with Trevor. In fact, he's probably the funniest and craziest protag. in the entire series. But that's relatively subjective. We even saw (and played) a prologue for those guys. Something never done before in a GTA game (except for the Introduction in GTA SA, but that was non-playable). So, to say that characters in this game are underdeveloped is totally unfounded and heavily biased. The only character who can be considered "less developed" is Franklin. Who to me, doesn't differ too much from CJ, a guy from ghetto to glitz and high-life. Same applies with Franklin, but with less noise. He wasn't the main focus, more like a sidekick.

 

3. Short story. This has been covered before. 69 missions and plenty of Strangers and Freaks. Plus, i prefer quality over quantity. To me fewer missions with more fun and variety are better than more missions with filler puproses in order to drag the story mode.

 

4. Mountains, more mountains, and lifeless towns. That's an utterly idiotic statement. People were demanding smaller towns and mountains and now complaining for them. Guess what, smaller towns are in fact "lifeless" in a way you won't see traffic jams or more than 10 peds on street. Mountains yes, what? They are there for a reason. Last time i checked, they weren't forced down your throat.

 

5. Yoga and tennis. I won't even bother to argue with that. Tennis is great, yoga is mediocre, but both are optional and definitely not the only minigames available. Geez.

 

6. Supercops. No, they are not "super". In fact, the current system is the most fair and the most "rewarding" cop system ever created. Fair in a way that you won't be seen inside walls or under bridges anymore, in fact now you can use them for your advantage. "Rewarding" because you can now escape a 5 star level if you carefully use your surrounding enviroment for your advantage. Once you had hit a 4 or 5 star level in previous GTA's, it was basically a death warrant. Eventually you would die without cheating. Now you can escape.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Tilemaxx

[The Odyssey]

There quite a few hypocrites in this section that belittle opinions even after saying that doing so is immature. The Odyssey, Officer Ronson

Thanks, I don't recall regarding peoples opinions as unimportant but I'm sure a guy who's ended arguments abruptly with unnecessary insults claims that I have, then I'll be damned if he isn't right.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Man this thread is full of mentally ill people, who are extreme whores of GTA IV. They can't even give genuine reasons for IV vs V and then insult other people for their opinion. This thread should be locked because this is going nowhere, it's just a bunch of kids arguing and insulting other people with opinions, but when it comes to theirs, they think its a fact.

[Official General]

Man this thread is full of mentally ill people, who are extreme whores of GTA IV. They can't even give genuine reasons for IV vs V and then insult other people for their opinion. This thread should be locked because this is going nowhere, it's just a bunch of kids arguing and insulting other people with opinions, but when it comes to theirs, they think its a fact.

 

You know what I find really funny about this statement ? You conveniently ignore it when fans of GTA V do the exact same thing you accuse GTA IV fans of doing. Let me refresh your memory with a post from a GTA V saying this about V compared to IV just a few pages back on this same thread.

 

From the Th3Man1 :

 

GTA V was a decent mix of quantity and quality. Gameplay was simply better than IV, and that's a fact.

 

What are you gonna say about him then ? Nothing. Simply because you only choose to see what you wanna see, because it suits your point of view. You are one serious hypocrite.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Official General

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

First of all, I haven't even seen that statement before. Secondly, it's his opinion and I also think that.However, it's a FACT that GTA IV didn't have much to do in Single Player, not much criminal activities, no customization, no properties/houses to buy, USELESS interiors and much more. Yet people say V has less features than IV in SP. In some ways, it does, at least I'm not ignoring this.

 

Now you can stop running your mouth and ignoring the fact that you IV fanboys are ignorant as f*ck. I haven't seen people like you defending the game so much that you are ignoring it's faults. Yet you decide to expose V's faults without thinking about how much of a hypocrite you are.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[œaœa]

 

 

 

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

.

You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

 

@ sibs44

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

 

You do realize that this is a forum about GTA ? Arguing is an integral part of being involved in forum discussions, that's why it's called a forum bro. Or did you not know that ? If you don't know that, then why are you here ?

There are meaningful arguments, but then there are trivial arguments that aren't really going to change anything at the end of the day. But I must have hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn't have responded to this. Funny part is, it wasn't even directed at you!

 

 

Well nobody was trying to change anything in the first place, I never heard anyone arguing on here say that they were going to either. The point of this is just to discuss, debate, argue, analyze, it is not to change anything. So I don't get your point regarding that. If you want to join in the discussion and give meaningful contributions, please feel free to do so. But it's no good coming in here making useless comments if you are not gonna contribute, or else it's highly likely you will get unwanted responses.

 

No, you have not touched a nerve, and it don't matter if you directed the comment at someone else. It's forum, that's idea, to form an open discussion NOW you get it ? Ta da !

 

I didn't know you turned black since your last post?

[Smith John]

I find it incredibly and comically ironic that I'm being accused of taking this thread too seriously by those who spend day after day posting in here as if their lives depend on it. And for the record: I don't take this thread "too seriously", but more of an embarrassing joke actually, given some of the posts in here- for example:

 

@ Lucheese

 

Still closely following my posts I see. As my biggest fan and follower,I really do appreciate your attention, I must say though. I never realized that I'd have such a profound effect on the life of someone I've never met or personally known, a random stranger on an internet forum.

SMFH...this guy is such a laughing stock at this point, I can only assume he's resorted to trolling now. I can only hope so, for his sake.

 

 

@ Lucheese

 

I basically pull the strings when you talk. You only exist on this site because of my comments. Wow, such power and fame is amazing !!

That is incorrect. He exists on these forums because his brain had, at some point in time, thought registering on these forums. The thought was simply conceived. And you had nothing to do with the conception of this thought.

 

How does this make you feel? Your illusion of control is shattered. You pull no strings. Because replies to your posts are basic human reactions based on feelings and thoughts. This is not something you should announce publicly. For the same reasons I wouldn't announce pressing down a key on my keyboard and watching it react to my finger's pressure. It's no achievement. It's simply everyday life.

 

Please get over it and stop trying to twist people's reactions to your favor. Humans don't work that way.

 

 

inb4: "It's called sarcasm/you're taking it too seriously/take a chill pill" predictable reactions. See? I can try and manipulate reactions too. It's fun.

 

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Just leave it man, if Official General wants to convince himself my sole registration/existence on this forum is to make him "famous", then let him revel in his glee. Like I said, he is either incredibly delusional, or simply trolling. Which one it is, is anybody's guess. It's childish members like OG who remind me why I rarely post in this section of the forums these days- some people just never grow the f*ck up...

Edited April 6, 2014 by Lucchese

[B Dawg]

Once you had hit a 4 or 5 star level in previous GTA's, it was basically a death warrant. Eventually you would die without cheating. Now you can escape.

Every GTA before IV: Pay N Spray

GTA IV: I can use the website for 5 stars and then escape in a slow european 4-door without the subway.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

Once you had hit a 4 or 5 star level in previous GTA's, it was basically a death warrant. Eventually you would die without cheating. Now you can escape.

I'm not afraid to say that you must not try hard enough. IV's cops weren't hard, they were super easy to escape, even without cheats. San Andreas just had stupid cops, that is all I have to say.

Edited April 6, 2014 by StingrayX

[Official General]

 

 

 

 

 

SoL, I used to have a lot of respect for you, what with all the defending of IV you felt you had do from the pathetic attacks over the last few years, but you have now become the epitome of what you previously loathed. Surely, you of all people should know better than to post things like that video. It just makes you look as stubborn as the annoying entitled children you were once at war with.

.

You guys take this stuff way, way too seriously.

 

@ sibs44

 

Says the one who has been arguing for 30+ pages.

You do realize that this is a forum about GTA ? Arguing is an integral part of being involved in forum discussions, that's why it's called a forum bro. Or did you not know that ? If you don't know that, then why are you here ?

 

There are meaningful arguments, but then there are trivial arguments that aren't really going to change anything at the end of the day. But I must have hit a nerve, otherwise you wouldn't have responded to this. Funny part is, it wasn't even directed at you!

 

Well nobody was trying to change anything in the first place, I never heard anyone arguing on here say that they were going to either. The point of this is just to discuss, debate, argue, analyze, it is not to change anything. So I don't get your point regarding that. If you want to join in the discussion and give meaningful contributions, please feel free to do so. But it's no good coming in here making useless comments if you are not gonna contribute, or else it's highly likely you will get unwanted responses.

 

No, you have not touched a nerve, and it don't matter if you directed the comment at someone else. It's forum, that's idea, to form an open discussion NOW you get it ? Ta da !

 

I didn't know you turned black since your last post?

 

 

Turned black ?? What on earth are you on about ?? What's race got to do with my last comment ? Do you even know what my ethnicity is ??

 

First of all, I haven't even seen that statement before. Secondly, it's his opinion and I also think that.However, it's a FACT that GTA IV didn't have much to do in Single Player, not much criminal activities, no customization, no properties/houses to buy, USELESS interiors and much more. Yet people say V has less features than IV in SP. In some ways, it does, at least I'm not ignoring this.

 

Now you can stop running your mouth and ignoring the fact that you IV fanboys are ignorant as f*ck. I haven't seen people like you defending the game so much that you are ignoring it's faults. Yet you decide to expose V's faults without thinking about how much of a hypocrite you are.

 

Exactly my point. Without bothering to properly check what has been going on, you shoot your mouth off making baseless assumptions and generalizations, leaving you very prone to making misconceptions about others. No way, IV had much more crime-related side missions than V, this has been proven already, you're just in denial saying otherwise. The only thing V has over IV in what you mentioned is better car customization (which was very good) and business properties, and the latter was very poorly implemented anyway. How the f*ck can you buy businesses and not enter them ? And why does it take what feels like a millennium just to get weekly profit returns on them ? The rest V has to offer is yoga, tennis, triathlon, bike riding and all that powder-puff bullsh*t. IV+EFLC offers me drug-dealing, gang and drug wars, armed back up, car thefts, vigilante, cage-fighting/gambling, club management, and many interiors to explore. The things in IV are the things I really like and enjoy - V don't offer me those things, so there is not much good in V for me to really be excited about, that's the reality for me.

 

Yeah you admit you think the same as that guy that it's a fact that V is better than IV, and yet you you have a problem with others defending IV ? You know what, get f*ck outta here, I cannot take a straight up, hypocrite like you seriously at all.

 

And I'm not a IV fanatic either, so don't refer to me as one.

 

@ Lucheese

 

It's childish members like OG who remind me why I rarely post in this section of the forums these days- some people just never grow the f*ck up

 

Ha ha don't lie. You know you follow and greatly anticipate replying to all my posts, you just cannot wait to see my name crop up on the new post listings. I'm so honored I have such a profound important, influence on your online activity life. You say you rarely post on here these days because you are fed up of members like me, but yet here you are still replying to my posts after all this time !! And guess what ?? You will be back here as long as I'm here posting, I can 100 percent guarantee that you will - which is why I'm so honored to have you as my number fan and provider of GTA forums fame. Much appreciated, my good friend and faithful follower, Lucheese.

 

Please don't double post.

Edited April 6, 2014 by WildBrick142

[œaœa]

Hey man, why are you double posting?

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, I haven't even seen that statement before. Secondly, it's his opinion and I also think that.However, it's a FACT that GTA IV didn't have much to do in Single Player, not much criminal activities, no customization, no properties/houses to buy, USELESS interiors and much more. Yet people say V has less features than IV in SP. In some ways, it does, at least I'm not ignoring this.

 

Now you can stop running your mouth and ignoring the fact that you IV fanboys are ignorant as f*ck. I haven't seen people like you defending the game so much that you are ignoring it's faults. Yet you decide to expose V's faults without thinking about how much of a hypocrite you are.

 

Exactly my point. Without bothering to properly check what has been going on, you shoot your mouth off making baseless assumptions and generalizations, leaving you very prone to making misconceptions about others. No way, IV had much more crime-related side missions than V, this has been proven already, you're just in denial saying otherwise. The only thing V has over IV in what you mentioned is better car customization (which was very good) and business properties, and the latter was very poorly implemented anyway. How the f*ck can you buy businesses and not enter them ? And why does it take what feels like a millennium just to get weekly profit returns on them ? The rest V has to offer is yoga, tennis, triathlon, bike riding and all that powder-puff bullsh*t. IV+EFLC offers me drug-dealing, gang and drug wars, armed back up, car thefts, vigilante, cage-fighting/gambling, club management, and many interiors to explore. The things in IV are the things I really like and enjoy - V don't offer me those things, so there is not much good in V for me to really be excited about, that's the reality for me.

 

Yeah you admit you think the same as that guy that it's a fact that V is better than IV, and yet you you have a problem with others defending IV ? You know what, get f*ck outta here, I cannot take a straight up, hypocrite like you seriously at all.

 

And I'm not a IV fanatic either, so don't refer to me as one.

 

I'm surprised you didn't even mention 3/4 of those features were NOT even in the vanilla IV game. They came through the f*cking DLC's. And the interiors were USELESS. There was NO drug dealing at all you dumb sh*t, only drug wars was in EFLC and NOT in IV. And club management? Seriously? That's not even something that should be in a GTA game. How is that a f*cking criminal activitiy? What a retarded, ignorant prick. I said IV had FEW criminal activities, I never said it didn't have any at all. There was no gambling in ANY version of IV, why are you such a mental fool? Making sh*t up as you bash V.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Voggs]

@FranklinDeRoosevelt - Are the insults really necessary? This a debate, not a fight. People are so hostile.

[Smith John]

Official General, for the 45,973rd time, every time you use IV plus two full story separate DLC GAMES, your "argument" automatically becomes void.

 

Oh, and...

 

* The Houser brothers themselves said in numerous interviews, their reason behind the creation of GTA was entirely based on their fascination with American or American-based organized crime and gang culture.

You do realise the Houser brothers never created GTA, right?...

 

Ha ha don't lie. You know you follow and gre.....blah blah blah

Just stop mate. You're digging yourself further and further into that hole of no return.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Lucchese