Adder needs buffing up a bit?

[BSEANO]

 

 

 

 

If you've ever driven both of these cars in TDU2, you'll know that the Adder feels incredibly underpowered in GTA.

 

My god. Please tell me you didn't just use TDU2 as a precedent.

 

Yes.. whats wrong with that? I'm not using that 100% as the basis, I'm just pointing it out.

 

 

Perhaps that it's a terrible basis to go on. TDU2 is one of the worst games i've ever had the misfortune to play.

 

If you really want to try and equate the Entity and Adder with their real-life "counterparts" - bearing in mind that the Adder and Entity are based on, not carbon copies of, real cars. Ergo, they need not have the same performance as the counterparts they're based on - then at least compare them with a game that actually put some effort into it's car physics development.

 

Fair points.

My point about their advertised stats in the game itself still stands though. I'll never know why the Entity accelerates so much quicker than the Adder despite the Adder being 0.5 secs quicker to 60mph. The top speed only needs increasing slightly in my opinion. It is ever so slightly quicker in drag races at the moment, but nowhere near 10mph quicker.

 

Its mainly the acceleration I'm delving into really. The Adder should be incredibly powerful, but it feels weak.

Edited March 14, 2014 by BSEANO

[JohnGazman]

 

Fair points.

 

My point about their advertised stats in the game itself still stands though. I'll never know why the Entity accelerates so much quicker than the Adder despite the Adder being 0.4 secs quicker to 60mph. The top speed only needs increasing slightly in my opinion. It is ever so slightly quicker in drag races at the moment, but nowhere near 10mph quicker.

 

Its mainly the acceleration I'm delving into really. The Adder should be incredibly powerful, but it feels weak.

 

 

Have you considered that it might be irony on R*'s part? That the most expensive Ubersupercar in the game...isn't actually the best one?

Edited March 14, 2014 by JohnGazman

[BSEANO]

 

 

Fair points.

 

My point about their advertised stats in the game itself still stands though. I'll never know why the Entity accelerates so much quicker than the Adder despite the Adder being 0.4 secs quicker to 60mph. The top speed only needs increasing slightly in my opinion. It is ever so slightly quicker in drag races at the moment, but nowhere near 10mph quicker.

 

Its mainly the acceleration I'm delving into really. The Adder should be incredibly powerful, but it feels weak.

 

 

Have you considered that it might be irony on R*'s part? That the most expensive Ubersupercar in the game...isn't actually the best one?

 

Possibly. But that's pretty damn stupid if you ask me

[The Angel King]

 

 

So much for hearing me out...

You made an outrageous suggestion and wonder why people won't hear you out.......not trying to be rude, but use some logic and common sense.

Outrageous is your opinion. How about YOU use some common sense to recognize that. And also apply some logic to realize that what I am saying actually makes sense.

If you've ever driven both of these cars in TDU2, you'll know that the Adder feels incredibly underpowered in GTA.

 

It is outrageous because you are asking to make the fastest car, faster......it takes a longer time to reach top speed though. AS it does in R/L. You want more attention on a car that is used more than all the other cars combined. I did not play TDU2 and I don't care. It is a different game.

 

Also, you talk about the numbers listed in Legendary site. Fact is not everything is always accurate on it AND that is before the upgraded mods. So with fully modded cars, it is rather pointless.

[Delminator]

Adder can use a bodywork or a spoiler.

i drive one and never been ramming people unless it happend by accident ofcourse

so i say 49%

[BSEANO]

It is outrageous because you are asking to make the fastest car, faster......it takes a longer time to reach top speed though. AS it does in R/L. You want more attention on a car that is used more than all the other cars combined. I did not play TDU2 and I don't care. It is a different game.

 

 

Also, you talk about the numbers listed in Legendary site. Fact is not everything is always accurate on it AND that is before the upgraded mods. So with fully modded cars, it is rather pointless.

 

1. Please read the whole post. I'm suggesting an increase in acceleration, and a SLIGHT increase in top speed to reflect the advertised stats, in exchange for a reduction in stability/traction. Entity drivers will still keep bad Adder drivers in their pack pocket so you won't be at a disadvantage.

2. Yeah my TDU2 reference was pretty ridiculous, I retract that.

3. Fact about the cars IN THE GAME when you're buying them should be accurate. Why shouldn't they be? "Fact is not always accurate" is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life.

4. All upgrade mods do the exact same thing to every car, so that's irrelevant (the Entity still accelerates faster stock anyway).

[DJ Kornphlake]

It's already the fastest car in the game though.

[Ylerion]

Just to point it out the Entity is actually based on the Koenigsegg.

[BSEANO]

It's already the fastest car in the game though.

By about 1mph. Have you seen a drag race with it versus the Entity? It's far too close. And that's over a very long stretch of road/runway too.

Just to point it out the Entity is actually based on the Koenigsegg.

I know buddy, the Agera R is a Koenigsegg

Edited March 14, 2014 by BSEANO

[Phyxsius-]

Or you could just sell the Adder and buy an Entity, instead of changing the Adder.

[The Angel King]

 

It is outrageous because you are asking to make the fastest car, faster......it takes a longer time to reach top speed though. AS it does in R/L. You want more attention on a car that is used more than all the other cars combined. I did not play TDU2 and I don't care. It is a different game.

 

 

Also, you talk about the numbers listed in Legendary site. Fact is not everything is always accurate on it AND that is before the upgraded mods. So with fully modded cars, it is rather pointless.

 

1. Please read the whole post. I'm suggesting an increase in acceleration, and a SLIGHT increase in top speed to reflect the advertised stats, in exchange for a reduction in stability/traction. Entity drivers will still keep bad Adder drivers in their pack pocket so you won't be at a disadvantage.

2. Yeah my TDU2 reference was pretty ridiculous, I retract that.

3. Fact about the cars IN THE GAME when you're buying them should be accurate. Why shouldn't they be? "Fact is not always accurate" is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read in my life.

4. All upgrade mods do the exact same thing to every car, so that's irrelevant (the Entity still accelerates faster stock anyway).

 

1. Top speed is already the highest. It needs no more faster acceleration...that is just silly. I can understand you want i tweaked, but what you are asking gives it an even bigger advantage than it has now. That is the biggest reason for my "outrageous" point.

2. I respect that.

3. It should be accurate. I agree with you. I said it is a fact that it isn't always accurate. That is a truthful statement.

4. I don't think that is true. I don't think mods do the same stats for each car. I point to the Bati and Bati RR. the RR is faster stock, but with upgrades they are both the same. Now if I am wrong on this someone please correct me.

[8up local]

The Rhino Tank needs a speed boost so it can gain on Adders and then smash them into pulp using the turret.

WHAT? the tank driver needs to learn how to shoot better if they're letting an adder get away. faster tanks are the last thing this game needs, well unless your a tank griever i guess.

[Malibu454]

My Adder is nice and shiny. If it needs a buffing, Johnny takes care of it.

Does anybody actually use the car wash?

[The Angel King]

 

The Rhino Tank needs a speed boost so it can gain on Adders and then smash them into pulp using the turret.

WHAT? the tank driver needs to learn how to shoot better if they're letting an adder get away. faster tanks are the last thing this game needs, well unless your a tank griever i guess.

 

I seen a tank with NOS chase people......I never seen an entire room go in passive before.....no, I did not...I went to a high building and laughed my ass off.

Edited March 14, 2014 by The Angel King

[BSEANO]

Or you could just sell the Adder and buy an Entity, instead of changing the Adder.

"My Subaru doesn't perform as it should, but its okay, I'll just scrap it and buy a Mini Cooper instead of fixing it."

 

That's a no.

[BrownMattHall]

to be fair the veyron was never meant to be this burly super race car IRL, its just a production luxury car with the highest top speed to date. considering that i think it does pretty damn well regardless especially in comparison to the koenigsegg(i have no idea how thats actually spelled) which was meant to be a lightweight monstrosity.

[BSEANO]

1. Top speed is already the highest. It needs no more faster acceleration...that is just silly. I can understand you want i tweaked, but what you are asking gives it an even bigger advantage than it has now. That is the biggest reason for my "outrageous" point.

 

The top speed SHOULD be the highest, but as I said, it doesn't show in the game. I'm seriously not talking about a huge top speed boost here, just ever so slightly (5mph?).

The acceleration really needs sorting though, I don't see how you could possibly consider that a silly suggestion. The Adder should accelerate to 60 mph half a second faster than the Entity, but it doesn't, I'd say the Entity hits it almost a full second earlier.

[Phyxsius-]

 

Or you could just sell the Adder and buy an Entity, instead of changing the Adder.

"My Subaru doesn't perform as it should, but its okay, I'll just scrap it and buy a Mini Cooper instead of fixing it."

 

That's a no.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/691206-this-is-why-ive-been-challenging-the-validity-of-broughys-car-test/

 

"I am already faster than an Entity. If I`m not, I`m too poor to afford one, anyway. I`ll just pretend the Adder needs a buff and see if I can lobby enough".

 

That`s a no.

 

Almost forgot.. if you don`t like it, buy one that you do.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Phyxsius-

[SmokeDat]

Of all the supers, the Bullet is in the biggest need for improvement.

 

The adder should be a little better considering its a million dollar car, but what can you do...

[The Angel King]

 

Or you could just sell the Adder and buy an Entity, instead of changing the Adder.

"My Subaru doesn't perform as it should, but its okay, I'll just scrap it and buy a Mini Cooper instead of fixing it."

 

That's a no.

 

An Adder and Entity are in the same class. A Subaru and a Mini Cooper? Not even a fair comparison lol

 

 

1. Top speed is already the highest. It needs no more faster acceleration...that is just silly. I can understand you want i tweaked, but what you are asking gives it an even bigger advantage than it has now. That is the biggest reason for my "outrageous" point.

 

The top speed SHOULD be the highest, but as I said, it doesn't show in the game. I'm seriously not talking about a huge top speed boost here, just ever so slightly (5mph?).

The acceleration really needs sorting though, I don't see how you could possibly consider that a silly suggestion. The Adder should accelerate to 60 mph half a second faster than the Entity, but it doesn't, I'd say the Entity hits it almost a full second earlier.

 

Making the Adder than much better than the other already under powered supercars is just dumb.

Edited March 14, 2014 by The Angel King

[Ayylien]

I think it's just the way Online caps your speed.

 

In my opinion, the Adder is much better than the Entity in singleplayer.

Online, there's not much of a difference.

[BSEANO]

 

 

Or you could just sell the Adder and buy an Entity, instead of changing the Adder.

"My Subaru doesn't perform as it should, but its okay, I'll just scrap it and buy a Mini Cooper instead of fixing it."

 

That's a no.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/691206-this-is-why-ive-been-challenging-the-validity-of-broughys-car-test/

 

"I am already faster than an Entity. If I`m not, I`m too poor to afford one, anyway. I`ll just pretend the Adder needs a buff and see if I can lobby enough".

 

That`s a no.

 

Almost forgot.. if you don`t like it, buy one that you do.

 

I wondered how long it'd take someone to resort to that. You held out pretty long, well done.

Did you not see Broughy's post in that thread? He ran a 54.2, so no, I wasn't faster. That isn't the reason for this thread anyway.

 

Also I'm too poor to afford a cheaper car? Whut? I don't have one because I don't WANT one. I don't like the car. And please read the OP, as I corrected the words "buffing up" to "altering". Improve one thing and knock down another to better reflect what it should be (see below).

to be fair the veyron was never meant to be this burly super race car IRL, its just a production luxury car with the highest top speed to date. considering that i think it does pretty damn well regardless especially in comparison to the koenigsegg(i have no idea how thats actually spelled) which was meant to be a lightweight monstrosity.

That's true, a Veyron probably couldn't beat an Agera around a track (has Top Gear tested it? I know they did the Veyron but I can't remember how it did), however it would beat it in a straight line, both in acceleration and speed, and obviously therefore it'd be a bit challenging to throw around corners. At the moment the Adder is easy to corner with and doesn't gun it like it should. It doesn't feel right.

Edited March 14, 2014 by BSEANO

[Phyxsius-]

I wondered how long it'd take someone to resort to that. You held out pretty long, well done.

 

Did you not see Broughy's post in that thread? He ran a 54.2, so no, I wasn't faster. That isn't the reason for this thread anyway.

 

Also I'm too poor to afford a cheaper car? Whut? I don't have one because I don't WANT one. I don't like the car. And please read the OP, as I corrected the words "buffing up" to "altering". Improve one thing and knock down another to better reflect what it should be.

 

Semantics, nothing more. The car is what it is and how it is. You can elect to have it, race with it, own an Entity on the side, race both or none, makes no difference.

 

Why do you want to modify the car? Now how, WHY?

[iBUCKEYE]

Peasants and their chradders and tissue boxes...

 

 

Infernus master race

[gnad.1992]

I don't know, i sold my chradder

[BSEANO]

 

I wondered how long it'd take someone to resort to that. You held out pretty long, well done.

 

Did you not see Broughy's post in that thread? He ran a 54.2, so no, I wasn't faster. That isn't the reason for this thread anyway.

 

Also I'm too poor to afford a cheaper car? Whut? I don't have one because I don't WANT one. I don't like the car. And please read the OP, as I corrected the words "buffing up" to "altering". Improve one thing and knock down another to better reflect what it should be.

 

Semantics, nothing more. The car is what it is and how it is. You can elect to have it, race with it, own an Entity on the side, race both or none, makes no difference.

 

Why do you want to modify the car? Now how, WHY?

 

Because it doesn't perform as advertised.

The same reason I've already stated 50,000 times in this thread.

[The Angel King]

The Adder is also a SAAB concept.......it should not be taken for a 100% Bugatti. Also, the Agera R is faster than the Bugatti. It also gets to high end speeds a lot faster. So that should also be thrown out the window too.

[Malibu454]

The Infernus has the best acceleration out of the hole. Every car is different for a reason.

The Adder is also the heaviest super and has more drag, look at the handling files. They were posted up a while back.

[Phyxsius-]

Because it doesn't perform as advertised.

 

The same reason I've already stated 50,000 times in this thread.

 

I`ve seen a movie once.. was called Fast and Furious. There, this blond hippie mods a Supra, to the point of smoking a Ferrari, which Supra almost gets eaten alive by a nice black muscle car, driven by a bald dude with a hairy sister (they are rich and stuff, but live in a piece of sh*t house).

 

What my young mind understood from that movie, is how muscle cars are advertised - as easily beating supercars.

 

Will you support me in lobbying for muscle cars to be better than super cars?

Edited March 14, 2014 by Phyxsius-

[BrownMattHall]

 

Because it doesn't perform as advertised.

 

The same reason I've already stated 50,000 times in this thread.

 

I`ve seen a movie once.. was called Fast and Furious. There, this blond hippie mods a Supra, to the point of smoking a Ferrari, which Supra almost gets eaten alive by a nice black muscle car, driven by a bald dude with a hairy sister (they are rich and stuff, but live in a piece of sh*t house).

 

What my young mind understood from that movie, is how muscle cars are advertised - as easily beating supercars.

 

Will you support me in lobbying for muscle cars to be better than super cars?

 

a muscle car driven by vin diesel (yes that has an effect on its performace (dont question how))