BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yes the walking, shooting, graphics, etc is better than past GTAs. But R* is missing some key elements to this game. Â Let's be honest here, the story and dialogue were weak. Not bad, but weak. IV didn't have the best story, but in my eyes it was better than this. Also, there are very minimal things to do with your time. You can go mod a car or go play golf, but besides that there really isn't much to do with your free time. The hunting sucks also. I get real sick of driving around like an asshole and mindlessly killing people. It feels dull. Minimal replayable factor IMO. Â Where are the Shopping malls, the nightclubs, or the casinos?! You're telling me, R* can put these in a GTA 11 years ago, but now they can't? There's something terribly wrong with that idea. This is my BIGGEST pet peeve with this game. Â I'm not bitching and whining about interiors, but they really added to this game. They added REPLAY ABILITY. Remember when you would go in a random building and just shoot it up for no reason and you had loads of fun doing it? Yeah, I do. Â I mean I can't even pull my gun out in a clothes store or my own house....the hell?! Doland J. Trump and ShinobiFixer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'd say only the interiors were a downgrade. A story doesn't matter as much to me in a game not focused solely on story. It was worse than IV, but definitely better than some other stories they've put out. Â Also, it's not that they 'couldn't' add malls, nightclubs, etc. It's just that they 'didn't'. Â Why? I dunno. You're gonna have to ask 'em that. Â My theory is that the hardware sucking complete ass has a lot to do with it. I mean, the game drops under 30 fps constantly. Â I cannot wait for Xbox One and PS4 GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voggs Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I agree with the Shoping malls, nightclubs and casinos... something that was an extremely dumb decision is closing Tequi La-La in freeroam. God damn it, it's only open at a mission and it would be a perfect nightclub like the Maisonette 9 in TBOGT with music playing and dancers. I really wanted the Dancing and Nightclubs to come back, the screenshot with Bahama Mamas West got me pumped, but it's just a closed bar to take your friends. Â Liberty City nightlife was great, a lot of fun at the clubs, the only problem is that Bahama Mamas was the best club and it was closed all the time, but the Maisonette 9 was still awesome. Edited March 12, 2014 by Voggens Niobium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 While I don't think it downgraded as a whole, it did in many aspects. Â And yeah, the could, but they didn't. Console limitations is just a nice excuse. Â That's my biggest beef with this game. I agree with the Shoping malls, nightclubs and casinos... something that was an extremely dumb decision is closing Tequi La-La in freeroam. God damn it, it's only open at a mission and it would be a perfect nightclub like the Maisonette 9 in TBOGT with music playing and dancers. I really wanted the Dancing and Nightclubs to come back, the screenshot with Bahama Mamas West got me pumped, but it's just a closed bar to take your friends. Exactly. The locked interior of Tequi LaLa was a head scratcher. And yes, they put out a screenshot of Bahama Mamas, but then it's not even in there. I was excited to do some Vice City sh*t and spray everybody on the dance floor but that failed to meet expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiFixer Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Don't give us sh*t about the hardware limitations, it's R*'s fault for making the map too big and concentrating on useless crap. Â They completely forgot about the replay value of this game during the production process. San Andreas was replayable, even Chinatown Wars with the drug dealing side game. Â They need to fix this, add things people will actually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Don't give us sh*t about the hardware limitations, it's R*'s fault for making the map too big and concentrating on useless crap. Â They completely forgot about the replay value of this game during the production process. San Andreas was replayable, even Chinatown Wars with the drug dealing side game. Â They need to fix this, add things people will actually do. I agree. When you put in a few gigantic mountains that are desolate, and a HUGE underwater feature that is also desolate, and no buildings to enter... You know there is nothing called "console limitations" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) You guys are saying it's not console limitations, then saying it's because of the giant map, underwater and mountains, all of which take up the console's resources.... Â Like I said, console limitations. It's clear that the map took precedence over interiors in this game. It's up to each individual whether you like that or not. Â BrokenLizard: There absolutely are console limitations. Why do you think games are limited? Because devs are limited in what they can do. You can't exactly do a whole lot with 512MB of RAM. MB! Â Remember, this game came out in 2013 on hardware that came out in 2005! Edited March 12, 2014 by TheMasterfocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I saw the whole game as a huge downgrade, no matter how many new features they added it really didn't add any value to the game in the end.. and yes the story was definitely weak compared to IV, hell even the characters were forgettable, and that's something I rarely say about R*'s games  GTA games are supposed to give us this freedom in an open sandbox, but something about GTA V felt EXTREMELY limited Edited March 12, 2014 by Johacamigames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleph-Zero Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I think they really f*cked up with this three protag sh*t. In fact it felt like none of them was a protag, just random guys i controlled. Â Also interiors and no ducking. Edited March 12, 2014 by Aleph-Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwar854 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Yes the walking, shooting, graphics, etc is better than past GTAs. But R* is missing some key elements to this game. Â Let's be honest here, the story and dialogue were weak. Not bad, but weak. IV didn't have the best story, but in my eyes it was better than this. Also, there are very minimal things to do with your time. You can go mod a car or go play golf, but besides that there really isn't much to do with your free time. The hunting sucks also. I get real sick of driving around like an asshole and mindlessly killing people. It feels dull. Minimal replayable factor IMO. Â Where are the Shopping malls, the nightclubs, or the casinos?! You're telling me, R* can put these in a GTA 11 years ago, but now they can't? There's something terribly wrong with that idea. This is my BIGGEST pet peeve with this game. Â I'm not bitching and whining about interiors, but they really added to this game. They added REPLAY ABILITY. Remember when you would go in a random building and just shoot it up for no reason and you had loads of fun doing it? Yeah, I do. Â I mean I can't even pull my gun out in a clothes store or my own house....the hell?! You have $15? Go on the xbox store, and buy SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 You guys are saying it's not console limitations, then saying it's because of the giant map, underwater and mountains, all of which take up the console's resources.... Â Like I said, console limitations. It's clear that the map took precedence over interiors in this game. It's up to each individual whether you like that or not. Â BrokenLizard: There absolutely are console limitations. Why do you think games are limited? Because devs are limited in what they can do. You can't exactly do a whole lot with 512MB of RAM. MB! Â Remember, this game came out in 2013 on hardware that came out in 2005! There's obviously limitations to a certain degree. But don't plan out a game beyond those limits. They tried to do too much with what little they had. My point is, why would you put those big of mountains and underwater, when you can't put in enterable buildings as a result? You'd rather have a mountain than a nightclub? You have logical point.... D-N-A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, except for the fact I wasn't making a point... Â Actually, I remember something I was told before: Â Interiors are a streaming asset, so disc drive size is the factor on interiors. Â So, again, console limitation. Xbox with its 8 GB or whatever and the PS3 was filled up, too, most likely because of less-compressed files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Meanwhile in Saintsrowforum.com....  SR Member1:Saints Row 4 was just retarded,i was expecting features like Watching TV and Getting Lap dance like in the GTA series but no what do we get?A f*cking Purple Giant Dildos,an Alien Storyline and a Over-the-top-sh*t.  SR Member2:I miss the days when SR felt a bit like GTA and yeah GTA 5 strip club interactivity is Great unlike Saints Row,i have always wish a Saints Row game will copy that feature  SR Member3:Lol Volition are retarded,we cant even swim or buy stuff,and the map is the same as the last game only with Aliens.Los Santos is 100x greater than this sh*t.  Hey guys and OP while we are complaining about this game other games series' fans are hoping for a great sequel like GTA 5.DMC and Tomb Raider was rebooted last year and there was alot of bashing,we should be lucky GTA is the only 90s Franchise that havent been rebooted completely unlike Mortal Kombat,Tomb Raider and more,and again every installments are always ambitious,even though GTA is split in 3 universes.Like someone said above he cant wait for next-gen GTAs,i am sure we all ant wait for that.GTA 5 is a technical achievement and that undeniable,you cant compare IV with V in terms of Graphics and things to do. btw i came up with the SR comments above myself Edited March 12, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Meanwhile in Saintsrowforum.com....  SR Member1:Saints Row 4 was just retarded,i was expect features like Watching TV and Getting Lap dance like in the GTA series but no what do we get?A f*cking Purple Giant Dildos,an Alien Storyline and a Over-the-top-sh*t.  SR Member2:I miss the day when SR felt a bit like GTA and yeah GTA 5 strip club interactivity is Great unlike Saints Row,i have always wish a Saints Row game will copy that feature  SR Member3:Lol Volition are retarded,we cant even swim or buy stuff,and the map is the same as the last game only with Aliens.Los Santos is 100x greater than this sh*t.  Hey guys and OP while we are complaining about this game other games series' fans are hoping for a great sequel like GTA 5.DMC and Tomb Raider was rebooted last year and there was alot of bashing,we should be lucky GTA is the only 90s Franchise that havent been rebooted completely unlike Mortal Kombat,Tomb Raider and more,and again every installments are always ambitious,even though GTA is split in 3 universes.Like someone said above he cant wait for next-gen GTAs,i am sure we all ant wait for that.GTA 5 is a technical achievement and that undeniable,you cant compare IV with V in terms of Graphics and things to do. Dude, get out of here. If I wanted to see what Saints Row is like, I'd play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014  Meanwhile in Saintsrowforum.com....  SR Member1:Saints Row 4 was just retarded,i was expect features like Watching TV and Getting Lap dance like in the GTA series but no what do we get?A f*cking Purple Giant Dildos,an Alien Storyline and a Over-the-top-sh*t.  SR Member2:I miss the day when SR felt a bit like GTA and yeah GTA 5 strip club interactivity is Great unlike Saints Row,i have always wish a Saints Row game will copy that feature  SR Member3:Lol Volition are retarded,we cant even swim or buy stuff,and the map is the same as the last game only with Aliens.Los Santos is 100x greater than this sh*t.  Hey guys and OP while we are complaining about this game other games series' fans are hoping for a great sequel like GTA 5.DMC and Tomb Raider was rebooted last year and there was alot of bashing,we should be lucky GTA is the only 90s Franchise that havent been rebooted completely unlike Mortal Kombat,Tomb Raider and more,and again every installments are always ambitious,even though GTA is split in 3 universes.Like someone said above he cant wait for next-gen GTAs,i am sure we all ant wait for that.GTA 5 is a technical achievement and that undeniable,you cant compare IV with V in terms of Graphics and things to do. Dude, get out of here. If I wanted to see what Saints Row is like, I'd play it.Lol i am just saying,"one man's complain is another man's joy" btw i play Saints Row 2 and 3 years ago and trust me V sh*t all over the 4 Saints Row games esp. SR4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tiger~ Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Tomb Raider. Now there's a game that went to hell in a hand cart...... Â Can you imagine if GTA 6 was 'upgraded' to no more than a Prince Of Persia rip off? Â Well at least you'd have nice interiors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Tomb Raider. Now there's a game that went to hell in a hand cart...... Â Can you imagine if GTA 6 was 'upgraded' to no more than a Prince Of Persia rip off? Â Well at least you'd have nice interiors! I just hope with Next-Gen,GTA doesnt get a total reboot (it should stick with the Multiverse) cus alot of fans-old or new will start to bash Rockstar same thing happened with Tomb Raider and Square Enix last year.but hey it just only 3 years before GTA becomes 20 years so maybe after that a reboot might be in plan but God forbid that shouldnt happen afterall they have a whopping 45 years ideas for GTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 This is GTA Not Saints Row or Prince of Persia Were on GTA forums No more bullsh*t answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 This is GTA Not Saints Row or Prince of Persia Were on GTA forums No more bullsh*t answers just saying because of the complains,and it a honest fact you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immigration Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well, except for the fact I wasn't making a point... Â Actually, I remember something I was told before: Â Interiors are a streaming asset, so disc drive size is the factor on interiors. Â So, again, console limitation. Xbox with its 8 GB or whatever and the PS3 was filled up, too, most likely because of less-compressed files. Hearsay=/= Fact. Â Stop making excuses for R*. Â They are probably saving Clubs , Casino's , and basically anything worthwhile for Future GTA Online DLC. Â It's not because of console limitations,it's because R* is trying to nickel and dime it's loyal fanbase. Â I guarantee you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_slav Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 GTA V was a massive downgrade, the list of what sucks in GTA V. Â *Driving *Police system *No cover *City is boring and empty *Story is the worst in the entire series *Multiple protagonists suck *Many good cars get removed *Flying helicopters suck *Riding motorbikes is horrible ViceCityStalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Guys and OP read this,it seems like they hard too much ideas and things to add in GTA 5 but most of them were either reserved for future GTAs or didnt make the cut,anyway here is it: http://m.edge-online.com/features/rockstar-norths-aaron-garbut-on-the-making-of-grand-theft-auto-v-our-game-of-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Ronson Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Well in previous games Casinos and Malls dint require that much detail or effort put into them, they were basically big and wide with not too much props. Use your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 GTA V was a massive downgrade, the list of what sucks in GTA V. Â *Driving *Police system *No cover *City is boring and empty *Story is the worst in the entire series *Multiple protagonists suck *Many good cars get removed *Flying helicopters suck *Riding motorbikes is horrible So you havent played the game? i get that impression,cus my copy of GTA 5 have a great cover system better than IV's. Fuzzknuckles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeFox Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Different username, same dam topic as millions of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_slav Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Â GTA V was a massive downgrade, the list of what sucks in GTA V. Â *Driving *Police system *No cover *City is boring and empty *Story is the worst in the entire series *Multiple protagonists suck *Many good cars get removed *Flying helicopters suck *Riding motorbikes is horrible So you havent played the game? i get that impression,cus my copy of GTA 5 have a great cover system better than IV's. Â I meant stealth/crouch system and I have the game, selling it as soon as I get 100%, i am on 95%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Different username, same dam topic as millions of others. True and lol the first time he joined he was bashing one of the Mods (Wildbrick) for no reason but because two of his complain threads were locked lol  @dro0001 alright no problem.but atleast the Stealth is better than Crouching imo Edited March 12, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Â Â Well, except for the fact I wasn't making a point... Â Actually, I remember something I was told before: Â Interiors are a streaming asset, so disc drive size is the factor on interiors. Â So, again, console limitation. Xbox with its 8 GB or whatever and the PS3 was filled up, too, most likely because of less-compressed files. Hearsay=/= Fact. Â Stop making excuses for R*. Â They are probably saving Clubs , Casino's , and basically anything worthwhile for Future GTA Online DLC. Â It's not because of console limitations,it's because R* is trying to nickel and dime it's loyal fanbase. Â I guarantee you that. I've been saying this! Â They're buttering people up with free DLCs that add nothing new, and soon they'll be charging for DLCs that actually matter and add something new. Immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Â Well, except for the fact I wasn't making a point... Â Actually, I remember something I was told before: Â Interiors are a streaming asset, so disc drive size is the factor on interiors. Â So, again, console limitation. Xbox with its 8 GB or whatever and the PS3 was filled up, too, most likely because of less-compressed files. Hearsay=/= Fact. Â Stop making excuses for R*. Â They are probably saving Clubs , Casino's , and basically anything worthwhile for Future GTA Online DLC. Â It's not because of console limitations,it's because R* is trying to nickel and dime it's loyal fanbase. Â I guarantee you that. Â Except it is fact: http://gtaforums.com/topic/682184-the-underground-areas-reason-for-less-interiors/page-2 Â Go about halfway down to Ash_735's post. The dude explained why I was wrong saying it's a RAM issue. Â "The fact that you don't know what you're talking about is what he's getting at. Interiors are a streaming asset. They could have hundreds of buildings enterable, main hold back is disc space and time to design them." Â It's not because of console limitations? So you're saying they could fit more stuff into the game and still have it run at a barely-tolerable framerate? Lol ok. Â Mhmmm, I'm sure they're gonna nickel and dime us. I mean, they've done it so many times with all that free DLC we've gotten! Â BrokenLizard: Add nothing new? New cars aren't new? New guns aren't new? And if you're Online, new missions, clothes, haircuts and tattoos aren't new!? Â I don't understand... Â Of course they're gonna charge for things like a SP story addition. It's a major addition. So are other things, like new cities. Â ...I don't understand some people... Edited March 12, 2014 by TheMasterfocker CantThinkOfOne2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenLizard Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Lol How does clothes and haircuts add to the fun level? It doesn't. Sure, a new car can add a couple hours of fun, but it gets quite old. Â It doesn't add to replay value. Â You're a perfect example of a player that R* is baiting and you're flush on the hook. Â What has it really added new? Beside materialistic objects...think about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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