Killerdude Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I am a 90's Kid, I grew up at the Very end of the "Hitting your kid is alright" Era, And watching Children growing up now, You can't control them, This whole Pussified generation of Parenting doesn't work. I babysit some kids for some extra money every now and then, and they are some of the most disrespectful bundle of Kids you've ever met, I can't do anything about it, So I sit there waiting until I am no longer needed, Collect Currency and leave, They are proof this whole system just doesn't work. Â I want to live in a World where Parent's are in Control of the Household, Not the kids. Â Â Â Anyways, GTAF, What do you guys think about Physical Punishment for Kids? Is it alright? Yes? No? Discuss. Edited March 9, 2014 by Killerdude8 Detective Phelps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBull FM Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think it should be allowed, As long you don't hit them hard to leave a mark on them. Detective Phelps, poklane and 018361 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think it should be allowed, As long you don't hit them hard to leave a mark on them. Totally, Senseless Abuse should be illegal, But as long as it's within Reason, It should be at the discretion of the Parent's. 018361, Detective Phelps and RedBull FM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomuk3 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think it should be allowed, As long you don't hit them hard to leave a mark on them. Â This, kids need to grow up tough and with discipline. They get away with everything these days which is why we see 5-10 year olds on the streets smoking and drinking. It's just wrong. Detective Phelps, poklane and 018361 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Scratch Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hell yeah, I used to box every night with my dad when I was 6. Fallcreek and Shah Sam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner71 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Â I think it should be allowed, As long you don't hit them hard to leave a mark on them. Â This, kids need to grow up tough and with discipline. They get away with everything these days which is why we see 5-10 year olds on the streets smoking and drinking. It's just wrong. Â I don't think hitting kids will solve that at all... maybe it would even increase it. Gnocchi Flip Flops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) It's not alright if you're using violence to intimidate them, or doing it just because you're frustrated. The problem with allowing it is that you can't prevent parents from doing either of those, so I suppose I'm against it. Â But I think it's alright if you give 'em a smack to get them to behave, if nothing else is working. Edited March 9, 2014 by Joe Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted-Penguin Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I was bought up by strict parents. My parents smacked me, and I grew up to respect my parents. Kids these days need to be toughed up! Governator, Detective Phelps, 018361 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) First I thought the topic title was "do you think hitting on kids is ok?". Edited March 9, 2014 by PaletoChickenCapo high91, 018361, Shenmue18 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Yes. It's a great way to relieve stress. Killerdude, 018361, Shah Sam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hitting children is lazy and bad parenting. You should try to talk to them, or punish them in another way. Mr. House, DEALUX, EphemeralStar and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hitting children is lazy and bad parenting. You should try to talk to them, or punish them in another way. Lazy and Bad? Maybe, But it actually works. Detective Phelps and 018361 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Â Hitting children is lazy and bad parenting. You should try to talk to them, or punish them in another way. Lazy and Bad? Maybe, But it actually works. Â Â Wouldn't it be better if parents and children had a better relationship by talking about stuff, instead of taking the violent alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Its only justifiable to me if your kids are really rotten brats, but getting to the point where it is abusive is unreasonable and serves no purpose whatsoever. Â My opinion is to discipline your kids by force only if it is really necessary. Otherwise, its only going to make your children wonder why you did what you did when they get older. Â My relationship with my parents is good and they stopped "spanking" back when I was 5. The only time I can remember my hitting me was like 5-4 years ago when she was cranky, half asleep, and didn't even know what she was going on about. Â I do agree that hitting your children over every little thing or doing so excessively is lazy, weak parenting that should make said parent feel pathetic. Its a cheap cop out to better parenting skills that are obviously absent. Edited March 9, 2014 by StingrayX 018361, na89340qv0n34b09q340 and Killerdude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Â Â Hitting children is lazy and bad parenting. You should try to talk to them, or punish them in another way. Lazy and Bad? Maybe, But it actually works. Â Â Wouldn't it be better if parents and children had a better relationship by talking about stuff, instead of taking the violent alternative? Â If the end result was the Child not being a Disrespectful twat, Yes, it would be better. I've yet to see this New Generation parenting Work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiGh0STt Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 hitting is not spanking. anyone who thinks otherwise should be shown the difference. Shah Sam, WBaker and na89340qv0n34b09q340 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Â Â Â Hitting children is lazy and bad parenting. You should try to talk to them, or punish them in another way. Lazy and Bad? Maybe, But it actually works. Â Â Wouldn't it be better if parents and children had a better relationship by talking about stuff, instead of taking the violent alternative? Â If the end result was the Child not being a Disrespectful twat, Yes, it would be better. I've yet to see this New Generation parenting Work. Â Â Not every child is disrespectful, that's just a generalization. There will always be disrespectful children, but there will also always be respectful and nice children. Â This is a quote from 2000 years ago by Socrates: Â The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. Â It just shows that people will always feel that they were more respectful as kids than the next genereration. Edited March 9, 2014 by PaletoChickenCapo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Fortuna Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) No it's totally disgusting. If you have to hit your children to make them obey you you're a sh*tty parent. People who agree with the hitting are essentially saying it should be legal to hit the most vulnerable, you wouldn't hit an adult if they disobey you. Why then is it okay to hit a child? Edited March 9, 2014 by Luna Fortuna EphemeralStar, DEALUX, Moonshield and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Â Not every child is disrespectful, that's just a generalization. There will always be disrespectful children, but there will also always be respectful and nice children. Â This is a quote from 2000 years ago by Socrates: Â The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. Â It just shows that people will always feel that they were more respectful as kids than the next genereration. Â Oh dude, You're totally Right, There are some very well behaved children out there, I'm just saying Physical Punishment works the best for the ones who Don't behave. I'm not saying you should do it at the slightest hint of Misbehaviour, But as a last resort when Yelling and talking doesn't work, Eventually You'll get to the point where you won't ever need to Spank your child again, Because unless they are really thick or hell bent on being your worst nightmare, They'll stop when you talk or yell at them. Â "Oh no, he's/she's yelling at me, If I don't stop, I'm gonna get spanked" 018361 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Violence is never the answer. Especially not when it concerns kids, regardless how insufferable / spoiled they are. Which unless there is an underlying mental cause usually is the result of less than proper parenting, ie your own damn fault. If you really want to hit someone, hit yourself, preferably hard and where it hurts. No, I don't have kids, nor do I plan on ever having kids but some things are just common sense. EphemeralStar and Shah Sam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Â Â Not every child is disrespectful, that's just a generalization. There will always be disrespectful children, but there will also always be respectful and nice children. Â This is a quote from 2000 years ago by Socrates: Â The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. Â It just shows that people will always feel that they were more respectful as kids than the next genereration. Â Oh dude, You're totally Right, There are some very well behaved children out there, I'm just saying Physical Punishment works the best for the ones who Don't behave. I'm not saying you should do it at the slightest hint of Misbehaviour, But as a last resort when Yelling and talking doesn't work, Eventually You'll get to the point where you won't ever need to Spank your child again, Because unless they are really thick or hell bent on being your worst nightmare, They'll stop when you talk or yell at them. Â "Oh no, he's/she's yelling at me, If I don't stop, I'm gonna get spanked" Â Â But then they're gonna listen to you because they're afraid of you, not because they respect you. It may be a easy way to make children to do as you say, but what you want is a relationship with your children where they also respect you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Members Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I hate kids, but I would neve hit them. Hitting them can make the child traumatized and scared of their own parents, which is not good. Also, most teenagers are going to be disresprctful. I'm 16, and i'm not particarly disrespectful, but believing that your lazy teenage son is gonna do EVERY single thing you tell him to do, is believing in Santa Claus. EphemeralStar and Shah Sam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I'm quite certain that it's been repeatedly shown physical abuse of children has no positive affect at all on their behaviour. Â Anyway this attitude that's been purported in this thread is another example of a teen - early 20 year old talking about how great the 'good old days' were. If beating your kids works then I have to wonder why the baby boomer generation is so f*cked up. Edited March 9, 2014 by Myron EphemeralStar, Moonshield, Raavi and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Howitzer Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Its never okay to hit kids. Parents need to discipline them some other way. EphemeralStar and Shah Sam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiophile Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I was hit as a child, from a very young age. Sometimes just because. So much so that I had developed a stutter due to it. Luckily it went away years ago. Do I think hitting children is okay? No. But that's basing it off my own experience. I believe in my experience, things went too far. Be that as it may, I grew up to respect my parents and others. Â What effect did this have on me? It made me closed off, among other things. Â I see kids today, especially the ones acting like they're 6'5 marines who know everything, and I have a desire to tell them off just to show them they aren't sh*t and need to shut the f*ck up and be respectful. The girls dress and act like whores in their 20's and the boys act like they're 6'5 and screwed half the girls in the school. Â I believe there's a way to instil respect in children without having to use physical punishment. It's just most parents today are goddamn lazy and abdicate all parental responsibility. Children learn from the media and just run amok. That socializes them a lot more than their parents do. Partly because I suppose children are good at compartmentalizing things. They are one personality with their parents and then complete dickheads when not around them. Most parents believe their children are little angels. Â I generalized a lot there but I see so many children acting like that and it disgusts me. But I don't believe physical punishment is needed to remedy that. I think parents just need to act like parents and spend time parenting their kids. Maybe it's also a case of parents just don't know how to handle all the outside influences since they didn't grow up with all this social media and "role models" like Miley Cyrus etc. Edited March 9, 2014 by Audiophile 018361 and Raavi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiGh0STt Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) My dad spanked me... I understood it as discipline because it rarely happened. Only when I did some really f*cked up stuff. in later years he became a drunk and, well, parents fight. He never laid a hand on my mom or me, or anyone else. As a matter of fact, I saw him multiple times almost get to the breaking point and he would completely turn around and walk off. again, hitting is not spanking. when a dog pees on the carpet, they know they made a mistake. Some dogs need to be dragged over to that spot and shown that they made a mistake, and a small spanking. Other dogs, and you can tell this by their body language, know the mistake they made, and all you have to do is show them through body language that it was a mistake. I have dealt with both kinds of dogs.. Humans... despite what you may think, have exactly the same mentality. Not every kid needs the strongest force of discipline to learn a lesson, but some do. The story goes both ways, by parents who never took these actions and end up having sh*thead spoiled little brats and on the other side, some kids feel beaten after a slap on the wrist. In the end, no one can tell you how to raise your kid. You as a parent need to figure out what works and what does not work for your child. If someone feels the need to step in, then you must be too aggressive. If you raise a spoiled brat, you were not aggressive enough. This thread is exactly like asking if the prison/criminal system is too harsh, or not harsh enough. Edited March 9, 2014 by iiGh0STt 018361, Audiophile and 98 in 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Fortuna Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 when a dog pees on the carpet, they know they made a mistake. Some dogs need to be dragged over to that spot and shown that they made a mistake, and a small spanking. Other dogs, and you can tell this by their body language, know the mistake they made, and all you have to do is show them through body language that it was a mistake. I have dealt with both kinds of dogs.. Humans... despite what you may think, have exactly the same mentality. Â But children are not dogs. It is absurd to say they have the same mentality; you can reason with children and talk to them, this is not true with dogs. Mr. House 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiGh0STt Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 either you have never handled dogs or you do not understand them. It's very similar in terms of discipline and training. but i knew someone would quote that part... anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Brown Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'll just set up a very simple law system in my home. The child will be able to commit 3 minor offenses each year and will only receive a stern warning each time. The 4th offense would be call for an appendage removal, such as a toe or finger, with no anesthetic. Mr. House, Shah Sam, Killerdude and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shah Sam Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'll just set up a very simple law system in my home. The child will be able to commit 3 minor offenses each year and will only receive a stern warning each time. The 4th offense would be call for an appendage removal, such as a toe or finger, with no anesthetic. Â I respect you, daddy. Â Frank Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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