Malaysia Airlines MH370 plane vanishes from radar screens! (2014)

[poklane]

 

On the other hand I hope one of the outlandish theories allegedly being pursued by US investigators turns out to be true, as that could mean that here are survivors.

Survivors, at what cost?If that is true, then a group of highly coordinated people have 239 hostages, could you imagine that? If that was a famiy member of mine I would have rathered the plane crashed, as bad as that sounds...

 

So you rather see a family member die in a plane crash than have them taken hostage by terrorists?

[Raavi]

The plane could've flown under the radar if it flew low enough according to a retired American Airlines pilot. Also the place were it went off the radar is apparently the perfect place to make a plane disappear as it has very poor communications coverage. So hijacking it and crashing or even (trying to) land it somewhere in that 4/5 hour timeframe seems more and more plausible. Not saying it is what happened, at this point it is just speculation and quite frankly nobody knows yet, however it could explain why it flew that far off course (Indian Ocean) after the transponder had been shut down.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Raavi

[trip]

So you rather see a family member die in a plane crash than have them taken hostage by terrorists?

 

This is my first time entering this topic(for a few reasons), and I have not read any of it - including the quote [thread] of which I am quoting.

 

If you were to ask me that question blind right now I'd say I'd rater them dead in a plane crash. In some situations death might be less painful for everyone.

Edited March 14, 2014 by trip

[Wayne Daniels]

 

 

 

On the other hand I hope one of the outlandish theories allegedly being pursued by US investigators turns out to be true, as that could mean that here are survivors.

Survivors, at what cost?If that is true, then a group of highly coordinated people have 239 hostages, could you imagine that? If that was a famiy member of mine I would have rathered the plane crashed, as bad as that sounds...

 

So you rather see a family member die in a plane crash than have them taken hostage by terrorists?In this case yes. I would rather they had died in the plane crash than being god knows where being tortured...and I know they be thinking the same thing. Edited March 14, 2014 by gta_aus

[K20]

saw on tv yesterday, an interview with an aviation expert, that the reason why most countries are involved in the investigation, is because of not getting the blame on them. plane was Boeing, so american, engine was rolls royce [british i believe], airline, Malaysian, electronics by etc etc. point is, no one wants the blame, so they all trying to prove its not them

 

quite sad really, when all people want is the truth. EG if it was an engine failure, then rolls royce will try their best to cover it up and with hold information. of course with government support.

 

but anywho, they saying this morning that communication systems were deliberately shut off [stated by the US, no doubt on behalf of Boeing]. so looks like it was pilot suicide/extremists. Souce

 

but i doubt its extremists. they normally own up by now, and go on tv shooting guns in the air to celebrate.

[Shmoopy]

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

[Graven]

saw on tv yesterday, an interview with an aviation expert, that the reason why most countries are involved in the investigation, is because of not getting the blame on them. plane was Boeing, so american, engine was rolls royce [british i believe], airline, Malaysian, electronics by etc etc. point is, no one wants the blame, so they all trying to prove its not them

 

quite sad really, when all people want is the truth. EG if it was an engine failure, then rolls royce will try their best to cover it up and with hold information. of course with government support.

 

but anywho, they saying this morning that communication systems were deliberately shut off [stated by the US, no doubt on behalf of Boeing]. so looks like it was pilot suicide/extremists. Souce

 

but i doubt its extremists. they normally own up by now, and go on tv shooting guns in the air to celebrate.

 

Bulls*it.

The reason why flying is the safest way to travel, is the fact that they want to investigate every accident as carefully as possible. So that they can make planes even better, and change the inspection routines if needed.

It does not serve anyone to cover up anything.

[GTA36362355]

Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane flown deliberately toward Andamans

 

http://www.bing.com/r/1A/65mQD?a=1&m=EN-IN

 

Hijack is still a possibility.

[Audiophile]

I remember there was a case of pilot suicide on some Asian airline (don't remember exact one, I think it was Silk Air?) years ago.

 

The pilot crashed the plane because he wanted to commit suicide. He was having financial issues and I think something career-related. At least that's the conclusion most have arrived at.

 

Pretty selfish. You want to take yourself out, go ahead. But don't take all those other people with you.

 

Anyway, getting ahead of myself here. I'm still leaning towards hijacking or terrorism in this case. If it were just a "regular" accident, I don't think it would be this difficult to locate even the smallest bit of wreckage after all this time, I mean. Naturally locating wreckage, especially over the oceans, is time consuming.

Edited March 14, 2014 by Audiophile

[K20]

maybe everyone's right about terrorism. i was doing the same thing the below image states yesterday, enough fuel to go Beijing, so how far can the plane go on that radius? not forgetting it can fly further than Beijing as planes carry little more fuel, for air traffic purposes. its got every chance to get into pakistan or even iran.

 

[phunkism]

Breaking this morning, Reuters, citing unnamed sources, reports that radar data suggests that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was deliberately flown towards the Andaman Islands.

[Wayne Daniels]

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

[poklane]

 

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

 

5 terrorists can probably easily take a plane full of people hostage. Intimidating them can be enough.

[Audiophile]

And what is there to suggest that they were flown to some fortress with over 300 + terrorists to keep them all in line? Or that the plane could even make it that far/actually land in such a place?

 

It's far more likely that it's a couple of terrorists (if that is the case) and all of those survivors. These things have happened in the past and in some cases, passengers do survive.

 

If it were my family member, I would want that chance. I wouldn't want them to suffer at the hands of terrorists, but I know I would also want them to have a chance to survive rather than just die straight away.

 

Anyway, considering how long it has been - whether terrorism, hijacking etc. - I think they are all likely dead by now and it's a matter of finding the debris fields in the ocean. Should that be the case, I hope they didn't suffer too much. But with G-forces and the inevitable terror of being in a situation like that, it would be sugar-coating it to say that they died peacefully.

 

All in all a sad situation. I really hope they find the plane soon so that the families can have some closure and start to grieve.

 

EDIT: I think I misunderstood one of the earlier posts, if so then ignore the first part about the terrorist numbers.

Edited March 15, 2014 by Audiophile

[El Dildo]

I dunno where this damn plane is, but conspiracy theorists are having a field day with this sh*t.

 

the last time a modern jet disappeared it only went missing for a week and a half.

couple more days go by and we're pushing the record books.

[uNi]

A terrorist attack doesn't make much sense at this point.

[Audiophile]

A terrorist attack doesn't make much sense at this point.

 

To be honest, I don't think much makes sense at this point. I will admit, I haven't been completely keeping up with the latest news as of today.

 

Which seems most likely: hijacking gone wrong? Failed terrorist attack? Pilot suicide/pilot intervention? Or just plain pilot error or catastrophic event on the aircraft? If there was some event on board the aircraft, how did it get so far off course with something wrong? I doubt it. If there was something wrong, they'd try to turn back and land at the nearest airport. The latest points to them being way beyond that.

 

I'm still leaning towards hijacking or terrorism. If it's the latter, it went wrong and they didn't get where they wanted to go for whatever reason. Likewise for hijacking, I suppose. It just makes more sense to me that it's one of those if we are to believe that the aircraft went so far off course, completely in the opposite direction.

 

This is all speculation, of course. We'll know what really happened when we know. Anyway, I feel like I am spamming up this thread but I find this to be one of the more interesting topic as of late.

[Lil ski]

 

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

Look what happened with 9/11. And you know how that all ended...

 

If it wasn't a terrorist hijacking or whatever then this is some f*ckin Lost sh*t here.

"The Island" is real folks!!!

Lol just kidding

[Mv6]

So many confusing reports...

 

This might be one of the most mysterious events in the past 5 years

[Audiophile]

I was actually thinking that earlier, that the plane disappeared a la Lost.

 

I've now seen on several sites that sources have "concluded" that the plane was indeed hijacked.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-hijacked-official-says-1.2573080

 

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/malaysian-plane-disappearance-still-unsolved-6-days-sea-222207157.html

 

Waiting to see if CNN etc pick this story up. The above may just be a case of flakey reporting, I imagine if it was "confirmed" it would have been on news sites like CNN, BBC etc.

Edited March 15, 2014 by Audiophile

[Mv6]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-more-sinister-theories-still-no-answers-in-search-for-missing-plane/

 

 

More sites reporting the same thing...

[Wayne Daniels]

 

 

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

Look what happened with 9/11. And you know how that all ended...

 

If it wasn't a terrorist hijacking or whatever then this is some f*ckin Lost sh*t here.

"The Island" is real folks!!!

Lol just kidding

What I meant was, does he really think that wherever the plane landed there was only 5 people to keep them all in line. Of course there would be a high number of extremists waiting at the landing spot. And now the terrorists have a plane at their disposal...BUT this is all just conspiracy theory and what ifs.

[GroundZero]

This is one of the biggest mysteries so far. We've been discussing this at school with schoolmates and teachers and none of us can come to a conclusion. Some say that it's been hijacked, some say that it has crashed, and some say that it could be something like the Bermuda Triangle that has happened in there.

 

Go figure...

[K20]

it can be hijacked, 9/11 it happened. since then they made it mandatory to update cockpit security. but we know the pilots on this aircraft like to show the ladies the area [in nearly all media sources]. so security is already compromised. once cockpit is taken, all that is to be done is lock the door and head to the destination.

 

if it is a hijack/piracy then there is still a chance all passengers are all safe, somewhere.

 

if its not then i'm sure some debris must have been seen by now. if it crashed in the ocean then the currents will surely wash the debris up the coast of Indonesia or Thailand.

 

Edited March 15, 2014 by K20

[K20]

inner circle is distance to beijing, outer is where the fuel can get them.

if its piracy, it'll be somewhere in there.

Edited March 15, 2014 by K20

[Shmoopy]

 

 

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

 

5 terrorists can probably easily take a plane full of people hostage. Intimidating them can be enough.

 

Intimidating 234 people using what ?

[poklane]

 

 

 

Hahaha , so you people say that its better for the 234 people to be dead by now than being taken hostages by 5 terrorists , 234 hostage , 5 terrorsits . hahaha

So you think where they flew the plane and landed, that there was only 5 terrorists to keep them all in line? really...

 

5 terrorists can probably easily take a plane full of people hostage. Intimidating them can be enough.

 

Intimidating 234 people using what ?

 

5 people who look and act like terrorist and claiming you have a bomb or multiple bombs can be enough.

[Shmoopy]

Claiming to have a ready to be detonated bomb can scare the passengers but not the trained pilots and hostess/stewards , plus the cockpit cant be accessed from the outside

[Raavi]

Claiming to have a ready to be detonated bomb can scare the passengers but not the trained pilots and hostess/stewards , plus the cockpit cant be accessed from the outside

 

Indeed cockpit doors are armored, however if it was a crew takeover, the copilot incapacitating the pilot or vice versa or even them working together they wouldn't even have to threaten anyone, they could just relatively easily depressurize the cabin and knock everyone out. Which could explain the rapid changes in altitude.

[Audiophile]

The Malaysians have searched both pilots homes.

 

As for the cockpit door being locked and armoured, there are still ways to get inside. If it were hijacker(s) and not the pilots, they could have made one of the cabin crew ask one of the pilots to open the cockpit door? It wouldn't be the first time this has happened. That door opens at some point for cabin crew. And the co-pilot is no stranger to opening the cockpit door when he isn't supposed to.

 

If it was the pilot(s), I wonder what motive they could have had to do something like this...