MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) New evidence shows we can feed the world by eating flies and other insects -- particularly in Africa where you always see the flies crawling on the faces of emaciated children. After reading about the German tourist Daniel Dudzisz who survives three weeks in Australian outback by 'eating flies,' clearly fly farms are the future of agriculture. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/german-tourist-daniel-dudzisz-survives-three-weeks-in-australian-outback-by-eating-flies-9176714.html Insects shouldn't just be something rich people eat to one-up each other. Insects can be cheap, affordable for everyone. There's also no need for insecticides, or pesticides in general when we're all eating insects. We'll have a healthier planet, along with strong children who eat all that protein. Killing insects is not only a waste of food, it's a lost revenue source. I'll probably start eating grasshoppers as they are abundant in my area. What kind of insects are you going to eat? Edited March 7, 2014 by JIMHO Tyler 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) 'cause it's icky. Edited March 7, 2014 by Myron Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064919826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Think of the starving children, though! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064919847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Think of the starving children, though! Let the starving children fight to the death. Winning child gets to eat the dead child. This solves food shortage and overpopulation and I don't have to eat bugs. Everybody wins! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064919861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Think of the starving children, though! Birth Control. OT: No. Edited March 7, 2014 by Raavi tranceking26 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064919971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If the africans are so hungry, why don't they just eat the flies off their faces? MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoopy Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 If the africans are so hungry, why don't they just eat the flies off their faces? f*ck you man , i hope you rot in hell Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Eating insects can be sexy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner71 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Set yourself as example and start eating just insects. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Set yourself as example and start eating just insects. Mr. Dudzisz is already an example. Didn't you read the article? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacymist Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Enjoy your bugs. And I'll enjoy my cheese pretzels. Killerdude, WBaker and iiGh0STt 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Little toasted crickets that eat corn go great with some guacamole and tortillas. MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Actually, we already overproduce food. People are starving because of geographically isolated famine, not because there isn't enough to go around. We've always known bugs were edible, I'm sure, but we don't eat them because they are absolutely repulsive. EDIT: Do we really not utilise insect protein in any way? Seems strange to me, upon reflection. Edited March 7, 2014 by Melchior Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Actually, we already overproduce food. People are starving because of geographically isolated famine, not because there isn't enough to go around. We've always known bugs were edible, I'm sure, but we don't eat them because they are absolutely repulsive. EDIT: Do we really not utilise insect protein in any way? Seems strange to me, upon reflection. I'm pretty sure the majority of the non western world eats insects. Tyler and MarshalMoo 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Actually, we already overproduce food. People are starving because of geographically isolated famine, not because there isn't enough to go around. We've always known bugs were edible, I'm sure, but we don't eat them because they are absolutely repulsive. EDIT: Do we really not utilise insect protein in any way? Seems strange to me, upon reflection. I'm pretty sure the majority of the non western world eats insects. I'd say most of the non Western world has access to sustained agriculture anyway (again, famine is isolated) so I don't think so. If I went to a restaurant in Nairobi and saw cockroaches on the menu, I'd be pretty surprised. I'm sure some people do, but definitely not a majority. And I meant on a large, industrial scale. Like couldn't we extract their protein and stick in something with the artificial texture and taste of bacon? Seems like we should be making some use of the little f*ckers; all the inconvenience they cause us. Abel. 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Actually, we already overproduce food. People are starving because of geographically isolated famine, not because there isn't enough to go around. We've always known bugs were edible, I'm sure, but we don't eat them because they are absolutely repulsive. EDIT: Do we really not utilise insect protein in any way? Seems strange to me, upon reflection. I'm pretty sure the majority of the non western world eats insects. I'd say most of the non Western world has access to sustained agriculture anyway (again, famine is isolated) so I don't think so. If I went to a restaurant in Nairobi and saw cockroaches on the menu, I'd be pretty surprised. I'm sure some people do, but definitely not a majority. And I meant on a large, industrial scale. Like couldn't we extract their protein and stick in something with the artificial texture and taste of bacon? Seems like we should be making some use of the little f*ckers; all the inconvenience they cause us. http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/aug/01/insects-food-emissions More than 1,000 insects are known to be eaten by choice around the world, in 80% of nations. They are most popular in the tropics, where they grow to large sizes and are easy to harvest. As for the west, there's a commonly eaten Spanish(?) cheese that consists of live larvae and shrimps are insects, so it's not that uncommon. It's more of a cultural prejudice than any genuine reason. Edited March 7, 2014 by Myron Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm not doubting that people all over the world eat insects, I'm doubting that a majority population of the non-Western world eats insects. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornedturtle Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 the amount of effort required to find and catch the bug is not worth the energy you will get from eating it. flies eat sh*t, rotting flesh, dirty water etc. the risk of slowly poisoning yourself is high. MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Enjoy your bugs. And I'll enjoy my cheese pretzels. If you eat that, you probably drink pop, so you're probably drinking cochineal guts. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-cochineal-insects-color-your-food-and-drinks-2012-3?op=1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) I'm not doubting that people all over the world eat insects, I'm doubting that a majority population of the non-Western world eats insects. Did you read the link? Van Huis is an enthusiast for eating insects but given his role as a consultant to the FAO, he can't be dismissed as a crank. "Most of the world already eats insects," he points out. "It is only in the western world that we don't. Psychologically we have a problem with it. I don't know why, as we eat shrimps, which are very comparable." More than 1,000 insects are known to be eaten by choice around the world, in 80% of nations. They are most popular in the tropics, where they grow to large sizes and are easy to harvest. Edited March 7, 2014 by Myron MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm not doubting that people all over the world eat insects, I'm doubting that a majority population of the non-Western world eats insects. A majority of the world's countries eat insects as food. It's normal in a lot of places latin american countries (interior mexico and most places away from the coasts) to capture crickets that feed on grains as a main source of protein between harvests. Graven and MarshalMoo 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 the amount of effort required to find and catch the bug is not worth the energy you will get from eating it. flies eat sh*t, rotting flesh, dirty water etc. the risk of slowly poisoning yourself is high. Surely we can grow flies in a sterilized CIFO (Concentrated Insect Feeding Operation) where we can feed them a diet of corn syrup. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphemeralStar Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Okay, I'll let you all know a secret. Whenever I watched that scene where Timon and Pumba first show Simba how to eat bugs in The Lion King, I really wanted to eat bugs. They looked so crunchy and juicy. That is all. Edited March 7, 2014 by EphemeralStar Majestic81, Harley and MarshalMoo 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Did you read the link? No time, just gimme the gist of it. But yeah, that's pretty interesting. Is it really that similar to shrimp though, and is it really just a psychological issue? I assumed anyone who eats insects does so out of necessity. Edited March 7, 2014 by Melchior Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Did you read the link? No time, just gimme the gist of it. But yeah, that's pretty interesting. Is it really that similar to shrimp though, and is it really just a psychological issue? I assumed anyone who eats insects does so out of necessity. I'll quote an academic article written by D Raubenheimer called Nutritional Ecology of Entomophagy in Humans and Other Primates I'm sure you'll hold that with more trust than the guardian The Western abhorrence of eating insects is unusual on a global scale, with entomophagy being the norm rather than the exception in many human populations. The global center of human entomophagy is the Americas, where 679 species are reported to be eaten across 23 countries (48, 84). An interesting possibility is that this high incidence could be influenced by the fact that pre-Hispanic Mesoamerica was unusual among ancient civilizations in achieving organizational complexity and a high population density without a domesticated herbivore and was thus reliant on alternative protein sources (109). In Africa 524 species are eaten across 36 countries, in Asia 349 species across 29 countries, in the Pacific region 152 species across 14 countries, and in Europe 41 insect species are eaten across 11 countries (48, 84). The above figures are derived from the total number of insect species eaten globally, which is estimated to be 1,681, but the actual number might be 2,000 or higher (78). Among these populations the proportional contribution of insects to the diet ranges from substantial to minor. In recent times in parts of central Africa, more than 50% of animal protein eaten was derived from insects (78), and this figure might reach 64% in parts of the Democratic Republic of Congo (23). Seasonally, insects provided up to 26% of animal protein (approximately 16% of total protein), and up to 23% of animal fat, eaten by Tukanoan Indians of Northwest Amazon (26). Edited March 7, 2014 by Myron Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshalMoo Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) On that bit about "isolated famine," what about in 2050 when the UN projects the world's population to be 9 billion, where the most growth is in Asia and Africa, with increased demand for protein? I'll just add, do your part: eat insects today. Edited March 7, 2014 by JIMHO Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Fandango Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 BUT WILL IT ACTUALLY TASTE GOOD IS WHAT I'M ASKING!? MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) But yeah, that's pretty interesting. Is it really that similar to shrimp though, and is it really just a psychological issue? I assumed anyone who eats insects does so out of necessity. Well I can't speak for myself because I also find shimp to be repulsive, but I believe the taste is pretty much the same. I also know that many east asian markets sell insects on sticks, like we would get in a market in the west. It's more of a rural thing though, but I don't think it's just necessity, it's that most large industrialised cities in China are western influenced, whether they like to admit it or not. Besides, in terms of protein, eating insects is much more efficient than eating animal meat. I have to say however, that I do not want to eat insects because I am a bigoted white man, but I'm not going to just pretend that eating insects isn't natural or useful, like this guy: the amount of effort required to find and catch the bug is not worth the energy you will get from eating it. flies eat sh*t, rotting flesh, dirty water etc. the risk of slowly poisoning yourself is high. On the latter part, flies also sh*t in flour and die. the majority of your food is covered in fly sh*t and the FDA allows certain discrepancies in food anyway, I believe something like 1 part in 100,000 is made of rat sh*t and rat hair etc. BUT WILL IT ACTUALLY TASTE GOOD IS WHAT I'M ASKING!? From what I've heard, like most things, it tastes like chicken. Edited March 7, 2014 by Myron MarshalMoo 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshield Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 On that bit about "isolated famine," what about in 2050 when the UN projects the world's population to be 9 billion, where the most growth is in Asia and Africa, with increased demand for protein? I'll just add, do your part: eat insects today. Please allow me to expound upon that. It is a melancholy object to those who walk through this great town or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabin doors, crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers, instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants: who as they grow up either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes. I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these children sound, useful members of the commonwealth, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation. But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars; it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them as those who demand our charity in the streets. ”I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...” As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of other projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in the computation. It is true, a child just dropped from its dam may be supported by her milk for a solar year, with little other nourishment; at most not above the value of 2s., which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner as instead of being a charge upon their parents or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall on the contrary contribute to the feeding, and partly to the clothing, of many thousands. There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us! sacrificing the poor innocent babes I doubt more to avoid the expense than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast. The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remains one hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, how this number shall be reared and provided for, which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing, till they arrive at six years old, except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier, during which time, they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers, as I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art. I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old is no salable commodity; and even when they come to this age they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half-a-crown at most on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriment and rags having been at least four times that value. I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection. I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout. I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter. I have reckoned upon a medium that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, increaseth to 28 pounds. I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children. Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolific diet, there are more children born in Roman Catholic countries about nine months after Lent than at any other season; therefore, reckoning a year after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of popish infants is at least three to one in this kingdom: and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of papists among us. I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, laborers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants; the mother will have eight shillings net profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child. Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flay the carcass; the skin of which artificially dressed will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen. As to our city of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs. A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased in discoursing on this matter to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supplied by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service; and these to be disposed of by their parents, if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me, from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our schoolboys by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable; and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission be a loss to the public, because they soon would become breeders themselves; and besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice (although indeed very unjustly), as a little bordering upon cruelty; which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, however so well intended. But in order to justify my friend, he confessed that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Psalmanazar, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality as a prime dainty; and that in his time the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court, in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at playhouse and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for, the kingdom would not be the worse. Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed, and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken to ease the nation of so grievous an encumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known that they are every day dying and rotting by cold and famine, and filth and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young laborers, they are now in as hopeful a condition; they cannot get work, and consequently pine away for want of nourishment, to a degree that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labor, they have not strength to perform it; and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come. I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance. For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of papists, with whom we are yearly overrun, being the principal breeders of the nation as well as our most dangerous enemies; and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate. Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to distress and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown. Thirdly, Whereas the maintenance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old and upward, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a-piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby increased fifty thousand pounds per annum, beside the profit of a new dish introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among ourselves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture. Fourthly, The constant breeders, beside the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year. Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns; where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection, and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating: and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please. Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards or enforced by laws and penalties. It would increase the care and tenderness of mothers toward their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the public, to their annual profit instead of expense. We should see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives during the time of their pregnancy as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, their sows when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage. Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barreled beef, the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well-grown, fat, yearling child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a lord mayor's feast or any other public entertainment. But this and many others I omit, being studious of brevity. Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand. I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it. Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice. But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it. After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for an hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in human figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession to the bulk of farmers, cottagers, and laborers, with their wives and children who are beggars in effect: I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, at a year old in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor clothes to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever. I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing. The End Danz. and MarshalMoo 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graven Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 the amount of effort required to find and catch the bug is not worth the energy you will get from eating it. flies eat sh*t, rotting flesh, dirty water etc. the risk of slowly poisoning yourself is high. You probably don´t eat fish in that case, because of the dioxin? You already eat toxic that human race dumps on nature and waters. It cycles back. And do You really think white lazy-ass people would have to find and catch all the bugs? Where´s your logic, they would be raised of course. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691193-why-not-eat-insects/#findComment-1064920798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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