Why GTA V wasn't good as previous GTA games...

[Ihatemyself]

So I always saw the hate for GTA V on this forum..and I honestly never really understood it. I think, after being able to reflect on GTA V without rose tinted hype infused glasses, the flaws began to really shine through.

 

Here's the thing....

 

1. The narrative was disappointing. Honestly, the narratives in most GTA games aren't the best, and GTA V at the very least was a bit more entertaining than GTA IV's. That said, I felt like the overall narrative arch had the potential to be much more than what it ended up ultimately being...

 

With that said, here were my REAL issues with gta v.

 

1. It's mainly the city.

 

So what GTA IV did really good was create this really large and bustling city that made you feel like as if you were a part of something big. It really was awesome, and created this sense of "realism" in that your in this large city..I don't know what the words are to properly explain the feeling, but it was there..

 

What GTA San Andreas did so well is give you that same sense, but with multiple cities, and creating this sense (even though the map is ultimately smaller than gta v), once again of being a part of something larger....You really felt like you were traveling across the whole state and it really just gave this "chill", of wow, this game is BIG..and just made you really sink into the game.

 

 

With GTA V, the issue becomes that the world never makes you feel small. It always feels..."Meh"...I mean don't get me wrong, the map is beautiful, and I love the inclusion of mountains and valleys. That said, the city is very small and never really "engulfs" you the way Liberty City did, and the overall map never feels immense like the map of gta san andreas did.

 

The world just ultimately becomes flat in a sense...No great city to explore..and mountains and valleys that span a very short distance, and are become quickly bland and uninteresting to look at/explore....

 

Also, to add the fact that world feels less alive to. The lack of enterable resturaunts isn't really that big of a deal..or so I thought...again, upon reflection, the whole world just lacks that extra "UMPH"

 

It's city doesn't captivate you...and the nature part is just "There"...it doesn't excite and captivate....The city lacks enterable locations giving this sense of isolation, creating a world that doesn't feel living and breathing...but rather just breathing....

 

Add to the fact that the game never feels as if it has enough. It just feels like they could've had the ability to add more locations to go to (like a casino to gamble in, or a horse race track), more clothes to buy, give you more fun things to do, and so on and so forth.

 

Don't get me wrong. Overall I enjoyed GTA V..but I just couldn't help but feel that the whole situation was a "2 steps forward, 1 step back"....

 

They were able to create a more "FUN" world to be in...but a world that lacked believably and isolated the player rather than making the player feel woven in the city (like previous titles did)

 

My 2 cents at least.

[Cforumlbgfeva]

I agree with you. I love gta v but it's stupid linear feel ruined that game. other gta games and red dead redemption had a lot more freedom.

[.Ryan.]

I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I enjoyed GTA V too, but it never met its full potential IMO.

Edited March 7, 2014 by SonOfLiberty

[Fuzzknuckles]

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

[Cforumlbgfeva]

gta v feels like it's rated T T for teens if you take away the stupid sexual bs in the game. I miss when rated M aqtualy meant something. Red dead redemption is the most perfect open world game I have ever played. In gta v it's too linear and too rushed

[Osho]

So I always saw the hate for GTA V on this forum..and I honestly never really understood it.

 

Many people have put their two cents in criticizing GTA V, but laying out the same things as your wall of text, nothing original, sorry

[Zeilona777]

No ''adventure''feeling as the story progresses.

[peluche503]

This forums always seem to criticize V, I don't agree with the statements made really, honestly I feel like I've this seen this type of city didn't feel extra stuff so much that it has become repetitive.

 

People should actually talk more about what they enjoy more and stop having the mindset of a fanboy, just because they like another game they can't like this one. Some of the facts feel like a little bit extreme as well, like the pedestrians issues, those little things just aren't really nothing to care about and people really wantr ot see realism can't sometimes take it to the max a little bit too much, though a game really can't never capture the sense of reality because it is really a game in reality, unless they make a game on Malcolm x, maybe.

 

I for one don't agree how immigrant struggles are portrayed in GTA IV as they over the top and unrealistic but do I criticize that, no I don't, because it is a game, games are not supposed to be about reality, they are something to be played and enjoyed once in a while.

 

Honestly these forums kind of get repetitive to me, this criticisms are not only for V but for other games in the series like SA as well, in the beginning I thought this forums were about the loving fans of the series, but it turned out to be a fanboy fest, I admit though I've gotten involved as well but as of now I will quit posting here seeing that there isn't a sense reality and morality as well.

Edited March 7, 2014 by peluche503

[.Ryan.]

This forums always seem to criticize V, I don't agree with the statements made really, honestly I feel like I've this seen this type of city didn't feel extra stuff so much that it has become repetitive.

 

People should actually talk more about what they enjoy more and stop having the mindset of a fanboy, just because they like another game they can't like this one. Some of the facts feel like a little bit extreme as well, like the pedestrians issues, those little things just aren't really nothing to care about and people really wantr ot see realism can't sometimes take it to the max a little bit too much, though a game really can't never capture the sense of reality because it is really a game in reality, unless they make a game on Malcolm x, maybe.

 

I for one don't agree how immigrant struggles are portrayed in GTA IV as they over the top and unrealistic but do I criticize that, no I don't, because it is a game, games are not supposed to be about reality, they are something to be played and enjoyed once in a while.

 

Honestly these forums kind of get repetitive to me, this criticisms are not only for V but for other games in the series like SA as well, in the beginning I thought this forums were about the loving fans of the series, but it turned out to be a fanboy fest, I admit though I've gotten involved as well but as of now I will quit posting here seeing that there isn't a sense reality and morality as well.

To be honest I just think you need to grow a thicker skin. These forums (in general) are for discussion positive or negative. Maybe it's because I've been here a number of years now, but when I see people who have only been here a couple of months implying they can't handle the discussion it makes me feel as if they take things just a tad too seriously.

 

I admit I was like you when GTA IV was new. I couldn't stand all the negativity in the GTA IV forum, but over time I came to accept it for what it was and that was simply the nature of the place.

 

GTA V has only been out for 6 months. It'll continue for a number of years until GTA VI comes out and people focus their attention on it.

 

To be fair I don't think GTA V gets that much "hate" per say. The hardcore haters are far and few between and I would say make up the minority. Most people try to critique GTA V in a civil manner, but the guys who say "stop your bitching" or "stfu whiner " aren't any better than the people who don't want to give the game any chance at all.

 

Anyway it is what it is I suppose. I'm only speaking from experience, but that's just my view.

Edited March 7, 2014 by SonOfLiberty

[œaœa]

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

[peluche503]

 

To be honest I just think you need to grow a thicker skin. These forums (in general) are for discussion positive or negative. Maybe it's because I've been here a number of years now, but when I see people who have only been here a couple of months implying they can't handle the discussion it makes me feel as if they take things just a tad too seriously.

 

I admit I was like you when GTA IV was new. I couldn't stand all the negativity in the GTA IV forum, but over time I came to accept it for what it was and that was simply the nature of the place.

 

GTA V has only been out for 6 months. It'll continue for a number of years until GTA VI comes out and people focus their attention on it.

 

To be fair I don't think GTA V gets that much "hate" per say. The hardcore haters are far and few between and I would say make up the minority. Most people try to critique GTA V in a civil manner, but the guys who say "stop your bitching" or "stfu whiner " aren't any better than the people who don't want to give the game any chance at all.

 

Anyway it is what it is I suppose. I'm only speaking from experience, but that's just my view.

 

 

The problem is that the forums get overly repetitive, for example the GTA V's world issues, I know this forums are supposed to be about negatives and positives, but sometimes the negatives get taken a bit too far, for my own taste. For example I could make a posts on how unrealistic IV portrays immigrant struggles and how over the top SA in terms of reality are. But I don't because again, they are games, they aren't something to be taken seriously

 

I'm not going to stop posting here in general, I'm just going to stop posting on this posts which sometimes are really a little bit to extreme or ones that are over repeated posts, I'm posting on posts that actually make more sense to talk about. Trust me I got the energy to keep posting on the negative forums, but I got more things to worry about than things to waste time on. Sometimes the issues posted here are not to be taken seriously, that's why I quit posting on the negatives, when you take something seriously you will keep raging over and over again about it, but when you get away from it, you are not taking seriously, you are just saying it's not worth it, I'm just going to relax and drink a beer or something. Frankly is the opposite of what you said about taking things seriously.

 

Hell I gave GTA IV a chance, even though, many people didn't like it back at that time as well, I've even went as far as to defend IV as well, but sometimes some of the issues got repeatedly discussed that I stopped or some didn't make any sense.

 

In the end, these are opinions, I may not agree with posts made, but that's how it is, sometimes is nice to keep things in balance rather than being taken too seriously.

Edited March 7, 2014 by peluche503

[warlord GTAV]

Yawn.

[Fuzzknuckles]

 

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

 

 

 

Here's a thing - if you just quote someone's post, but don't add anything, you're technically spamming.

 

So, anyways - V = really good to some people, not so good to others. Amazing, isn't it?

[Giles Flaggot 1]

I've heard some outrageous criticisms about V but this is my new favorite...LINEAR GAMEPLAY...linear? Linear? Seriously???

[OGLuke]

the story missions were scripted as you might fail the mission if you stray far from the objective, this never happened in gta iv and there were multiple ways to beat a mission

 

I'll give you an example of gta v's linear mission structure

 

in the merryweather heist you're either controlling micheal or franklin for the first segment, which is cool but nearing the end of the mission your stuck sniping as franklin no switching to micheal and afterwards you're tasked with retrieving a weapon with boring deep sea diving then you switch to trevor and take the sub to it's designated spot.

 

f*cking boring as most missions in gta v had me skipping through them, rdr had this same option of skipping certain parts of mission but I never did because they were exhilirating to play and joyful to replay.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

 

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

 

 

Here's a thing - if you just quote someone's post, but don't add anything, you're technically spamming.

 

So, anyways - V = really good to some people, not so good to others. Amazing, isn't it?

And you making a useless ass post that contributes nothing worthwhile is spamming too. You do this all of the time and you're a led-by, who promoted you is beyond me. Either contribute or shut up and just do your job and report the spam post rather than posting about it.

 

On-topic: I agree with almost everything you said, OP. The part about the city is undeniably true. Los Santos just doesn't immerse me, the map doesn't. Some people will never even try to understand why certain critics feel the way they do. Sorry but Fuzzknuckles, you really aren't putting effort into even trying to understand why we feel the way we do.

Edited March 7, 2014 by StingrayX

[THE_TREVALEV]

Blame it on the DVDs that the Xbox uses. Two install discs would be crazy and cost more. With blue ray discs, imagine two completely filled discs of pure GTA.

[OGLuke]

gta v lacks open ended missions for the most part but there are some with more breathing space like crystal maze let's you plan your attack and or strategy.

[Guest]

Blame it on the DVDs that the Xbox uses. Two install discs would be crazy and cost more. With blue ray discs, imagine two completely filled discs of pure GTA.

don't blame it on R*

don't blame on map size

don't blame it on dev time

 

blame it on the xbox

[œaœa]

 

 

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

 

 

 

Here's a thing - if you just quote someone's post, but don't add anything, you're technically spamming.

 

So, anyways - V = really good to some people, not so good to others. Amazing, isn't it?

 

Yes, some people like the game while others don't. It's just that users here are very vocal about it. So vocal that they need to nitpick "overused" phrases.

Edited March 7, 2014 by sibs44

[CryptReaperDorian]

Well, all I know is that taking my first steps into Broker was probably one of my best feelings in the GTA franchise. Just the sound of the subway train passing overhead. . .

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

In every single 3-D era GTA game that I've played, I had received an extremely strong sense of curiosity, adventure, and that unforgettable feeling "this is going to be a very, very spectacular game"... except for V. I'm sure the leaks had something to do with that, but I did not see every single leak there was so maybe it weren't the leaks' fault. The strange and superficial feeling I got when I drove the red Rapid GT. The odd feel and look of the atmosphere when I was trying to escape the cops after Lemar left me. The way it was more annoying than fun to drive fast and try and escape the cops. And when I went on my first trip in a Buffalo, the world did not feel completely unknown to me and I knew there was nothing significant to see rather than some bare mountains and a small town named Paleto with barely any interiors.

[Sami Uso]

Very very boring game, I wish I could get my money back and buy something better with it.

[Lethal Vaccine]

I don't disagree nor agree with the comments in this topic.

 

But with that being said, I feel that something is missing in this game. Kinda like what StingrayX said....In the PS2 era games (III, VC, SA), even GTA IV, there was that feeling of "this game is gonna be spectacular and amazing," but GTA V didn't exactly deliver in the long run.

 

In the short run, I was drooling over this game when I got it, until about the first week of November and then it slowly started to fade. Granted, I been 100% completion since October and don't play Online, so maybe that has something to do with it.

 

I only seem to be able to better my 5 star rampage times with the cops, and just have fun driving my vehicles around. It just bothers me to no end that GTA V lacks a great deal of storage space for vehicles. San Andreas had 37 safehouses! Which ranged from 1 car garages up to 4-6 car garages! The space was endless. Even in Vice City, there was numerous safehouses with tons of storage space for vehicles! You just know you weren't gonna run out of space! In GTA V, I feel this game offers a LOT of nice cars, in ALL the classes. Supers, Sports, Sports Classics, Coupes, Sedans, Motorcycles, and Police Vehicles, among other classes like Vans, Compacts, and SUV's, but there isn't enough space to store them and this hurts me inside, lol

 

There is also the problem with Patches that everytime one is released it causes glitches/bugs. I know they fix stuff in the Patches, but while they fix one or two small things in SP, it brings about several other glitches/bugs/problems. This hurts me even MORE inside that I don't think I want to update any more from Patch 1.11.

 

Also, the 100% rewards for completion are severely lacking. Even in IV, the 100% completion rewards were pure sh*t! Removing an ammo cap? Carry more bullets? Nice! Once you saved and reloaded your game, the ammo cap went back down to it's rightful limit! That sucks! A few UFO Easter Eggs and a T-Shirt?! Give me a break! These are pure sh*t!

 

What happened to VC and SA 100% completion rewards like infinite ammo, armed body guards following you (VC), DOUBLE health, DOUBLE armor (VC), given a Rhino Tank and Hydra (SA)...?!

 

There is just something missing, as I said at the top of my post, and I can't put my finger on it. I love the map, I love the vehicles, I love the gameplay and the scenery....But at the end of the day, GTA V is quite boring compared to the PS2 era games, plus GTA IV.

[sadpandamakeup]

GTA 5 is the first GTA game that was unexciting enough that I will not be playing it twice. Every other GTA I've played has been fun enough that it got a second playthrough (III, VC, SA, LCS, and VCS).

 

The Trevor rampages and Franklin's assassination missions were the only things that were truly "fun."

 

No complaints though. GTAO is amazing and more than makes up for it.

[mrbozzedup]

I agree with your points op. For some reason the game doesn't feel complete rather it's the story, city, etc. I still love it but felt it could have been much better

[Official General]

1. The narrative was disappointing. Honestly, the narratives in most GTA games aren't the best, and GTA V at the very least was a bit more entertaining than GTA IV's. That said, I felt like the overall narrative arch had the potential to be much more than what it ended up ultimately being...

 

I totally agree with everything you have said, except for this one part. In my view GTA IV had a much better, more and entertaining and interesting story than GTA V's.

 

But getting back again to your main point, I've always said this and I will say it again - GTA V is a great game, but it's just not as great as it should and could have been. That in itself is quite a letdown considering this game had so much potential but did not fully realize it.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I had stopped playing V back in November but I gave it a try today. It started where I left off, in Michael's Schwartzer in front of the airport around noon. Well, I surprisingly did not get that "Welcome back it's great to be back" feeling that I had anticipated but I went on to head to his house. The physics still bored me and getting used to everything came back within like 3 minutes. I focused on the surroundings and graphics and was satisfied by the graphics, but underwhelmed by the city. It-it just doesn't feel special. I just played IV for 4 months and dealt with Liberty City's somber grime but Los Santos did not make me feel overwhelmed in a good way at all. I cruised around the city and felt no urges like "Hey- go explore that building and it's surroundings.

 

The city really is the main problem for me. Its like an attractive car that does not drive. Its intriguing to gawk at but when it comes to getting immersed- well- you can't. The lack of restaurants, clubs, hell even house interiors to explore, it feels boring. People ask all of the time "Why do you want/need interiors?" Well my question to that question is: If you visited a city to tour it and get immersed, would you not want to enter a few interesting buildings, eat in a unique restaurant, and/or enter random shops just to look? Or would just stay outside 24/7, only looking at a building wishing, "It would be lovely to go in there, but no." huh?

[OGLuke]

You just hate to see a good horse shot down in it's prime but never the less if that horse is limping you have to be strong and shoot the beast or else they'll make another dull grand theft auto game.

[Rock Howard]

Opinions are like onions - strong ones make people cry. No, wait, I mean... Opinions are like penises - when you find out your girlfriend has one, it's time to say goodbye.

 

 

I could go on, but there's no point really. I disagree with you on all counts here, but hey, the world keeps turning and I'll carry on playing GTA V and loving it.

You and me both.