T-dog Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) If we were to get a female character in a future dlc or game as the sole protagonist or one of multiple ones, how would you approach her? Would you make her hard-edged and badass or silent and deadly? What would be her end-game(almost every protagonist so far had one, Niko's was to find Dimitri, Tommy's and Trevor's were to become a drug kingpin and Frank's was to become rich)? I wanna know your input on how you would approach a female character without making her clichéd or stertypical. Edited March 7, 2014 by T-dog Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyla Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 What would be her end-game(almost every protagonist so far had one, Niko's was to find Dimitri, Tommy's and Trevor's were to become a drug kingpin and Frank's was to become rich)? I wanna know your input on how you would approach a female character without making her clichéd or stertypical. Survival. A themed storyline of backstabbing and hustling in order to get by. I'd like a female protagonist entrapped in a world of prostitution or drugs and for her to be tightly bound to a particularly cruel pusher or pimp. She'd have once been a naive little girl until she got off the bus in the wrong place and was passed around johns and porno producers until her looks faded. Her nasty little habit placed her in the hands of said pimp/pusher who now forces her to sample and package his drugs. When the opportunity arises at the beginning of the game, she murders him and steals his stash/money. Obviously, the mack she murdered had friends who want the money back and it's not as simple as selling the drugs, investing the money. She'd have to pull off jobs to cultivate contacts and deal with the threats against her life whilst hustling to get by. Ideally, grifting and the use of informers to seek out criminally based random events and side missions would make for dynamic and innovative gameplay outside of missions. Plus, operating as a Madam and controlling a network of drug dealers are long overdue additions to the series and there's no reason these can't be introduced with a female protagonist. 98 in 1, matajuegos01 and na89340qv0n34b09q340 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064915338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeol1987 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Female lead = recreation of Catalina = good protagonist B Dawg and SonofYankton 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064916650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Catalina was annoying D; The protagonist could be a chick who's terminally ill and doesnt give a f*ck about anything. Maybe the story could involve getting back at people who were mean to you in your life, thus getting in more and more trouble. Idk lol. And she should be by herself, no aid of any kind unless it's 1 or more other chicks (okay, maybe that would be the "girl power" stereotype but who cares ). Otherwise, a chick who's husband has a massive debt with a loan shark who's linked to the mob. She kills the loan shark and gets deeper into trouble.dibs on that for a concept thread btw Edit: right now I'm starting to wonder what exactly would be stereotypical... I guess the chick from Lolipop Chainsaw whatever was stereotypical, the girl from Last of Us too. And I guess anything that involves protecting a son or daughter or even a love interest would be stereotypical too. And as crazy as people are, if the story involves her family some will say "oh right, cause women=family -_- " so I guess not. Meanwhile at Rockstar Offices: -Hey, you know those things with boobs, that make babies? We should make one of those a protagonist. Edited March 7, 2014 by Rainbow Party Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeol1987 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It would have to be a former prostitute or something like aileen wuornos have you ever seen monster? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Oh I remember that movie but I haven't seen it o: I just googled her and I had forgotten that she was based on a real person. Edited March 7, 2014 by Rainbow Party Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 A Two Face Chick:An Agent by Day a Stripper by Night,Lol i am sure it will be interesting,GTA did Strippers and Hookers first,i am sure with this Nightclubs like TBoGT and Gay Clubs/Strippers can be introduced. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) A Two Face Chick:An Agent by Day a Stripper by Night,Lol i am sure it will be interesting,GTA did Strippers and Hookers first,i am sure with this Nightclubs like TBoGT and Gay Clubs/Strippers can be introduced. xD that sounds a lot like this: but that's not a problem since GTA almost always bases their characters on movie characters. By the way, by "agent" do you mean playing on the other side of the law? Edited March 7, 2014 by Rainbow Party Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 A Two Face Chick:An Agent by Day a Stripper by Night,Lol i am sure it will be interesting,GTA did Strippers and Hookers first,i am sure with this Nightclubs like TBoGT and Gay Clubs/Strippers can be introduced. xD that sounds a lot like this: but that's not a problem since GTA almost always bases their characters on movie characters. By the way, by "agent" do you mean playing on the other side of the law? Yeah Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064917831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Target13 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I Would make her very beautiful & cute, But...Mess with her and she becomes the strongest bitch & last bitch you will ever see. I Would probably make her blonde since i have a "Thing" for blondes. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064918482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) ↑ I would make her average/ugly, like every other GTA character. I love how everyone's ugly in GTA. Edited March 7, 2014 by Rainbow Party Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064918540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm1 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 difficult . maybe someone like Niko that has been abused in her youth , who has witnessed shocking things and that is trying to conquer her fears , to keep the head outside the water Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064919226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavina Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I have this idea of Paige Harris returning to be a sidekick of the main character/s. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064919393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blennerville Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Smack that, all on the floor, smack that, give me some more,smack that, till you get sore, smack that oh ooh. Edited March 9, 2014 by Blennerville Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064919539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxX19Dude95XxX Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) If she has and can have a good story then yes. But if its just because she is female because people want a female lead then no Edited March 8, 2014 by bikerman3 Blennerville and Rainbow Party 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064919655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Badgirl Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'd like to see a female protagonist who is a drug supplier. Maybe she wants to rise up in the ranks of the cartel she works for, but the leader of the cartel wants to eliminate all the middle men and women, so the drugs go right to the dealers without going through the suppliers first. Since vengence would be a good motive for a female protagonist, I figure the cartel leader would hire an assasin to take out the protagonist. However, the assasin screws up and kills her husband instead. The cartel leader flees the country to the city the game would take place in. Our protagonist would follow him/her, and upon arriving in the city, she would need to climb the crime ladder in order to track down and kill her former employer. Yeah, I know. It's been done before, but it's all I can think of that doesn't involve a stripper or prostitute protagonist. Rainbow Party 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064920145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
na89340qv0n34b09q340 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) I want to throw in some GTA II-esque stuff. I was listening to a few GTA II radio stations, and that got me in the mood for cyberpunk stuff. She'd leave her family to escape the monotony of family life in suburban Anywhere City. There was a movie/book with a plot like this that I've seen/read, but I can't remember what it was called, anyway I liked the idea a lot. She'd start out the story killing local drug dealers for fun and profit, but it turns out that one drug dealer she killed was actually on hire by the Zaibatsu Corp. and now they're trying to get rid of her. She's picked up as a contract killer for a rival megacorp, and is assigned mostly to taking out their enemies. In return the company has her back to protect against Zaibatsu assassination attempts. As she works for them she figures out that most of the people she's killing are previous contract killers for the megacorp that pays her, and she does some investigation and finds out that the company usually drops their assassins when the assassins figure out that the company has a history of dropping their assassins. And so she goes rogue and fights for her life. At one point in the game she'd find her husband as a bum on the streets. It turns out he ate the kids and pets, he breaks down and asks for help, and she calls him a "disgusting f*ck" and continues to move on with her life as if none of them ever existed. So she'd work out a lot like Niko did, breaking into the crime scene by becoming a contract killer, except instead of being hardened by a war she's able to do it because she really hates the crapsack world that "Anywhere City" has become. Edited March 8, 2014 by Joe Chip Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064923321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Cowboy Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Let's say, ballpark, 95% of the people who play this game are men. We're looking for sex, plain and simple. You can't have an interesting, in-depth female protagonist to both function as a character without getting the male gamer's attention with sex. I still don't see why people say Lara Croft is such a "female triumph" of a character... Yeah, she strangulates people and pegs them with arrows, but with hardly any clothing and a pair that's about to bust out of her sh*t. I don't think you could make a female protagonist work. Being believable, tough, and sexy never works, and that's what you'd need to sell it. Or maybe we could just throw some hot stripper protagonist in, have her eat human stew and run around in her underwear, that dumb archetype clearly works for GTA fans... *COUGH COUGH* Rainbow Party 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064923607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOW'S ANNIE? Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I would say someone like a female version of Tommy Vercetti. People under estimate her killer instincts simply because she's a woman, but can easily creat business contacts and ruthlessly murder those who get in her way (not going as over the top as Trevor Phillips of course) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064923950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaythamKenway Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Let's say, ballpark, 95% of the people who play this game are men. We're looking for sex, plain and simple. You can't have an interesting, in-depth female protagonist to both function as a character without getting the male gamer's attention with sex. I still don't see why people say Lara Croft is such a "female triumph" of a character... Yeah, she strangulates people and pegs them with arrows, but with hardly any clothing and a pair that's about to bust out of her sh*t. I don't think you could make a female protagonist work. Being believable, tough, and sexy never works, and that's what you'd need to sell it. Or maybe we could just throw some hot stripper protagonist in, have her eat human stew and run around in her underwear, that dumb archetype clearly works for GTA fans... *COUGH COUGH* They don't need to make her attractive. And really, they shouldn't. People will buy the game even if the protag isn't a supermodel. Were Niko, Johnny, Michael or Trevor attractive? And when it comes to characters, R* didn't bow down to what people want yet. V got a lot of sh*t for having unlikable assh*les as protags. Other developers try to make their protagonists retalable and audience-friendly, even when it comes to crime games. R* gave us Michael and Trevor. I don't think they should approach it in any special way. The worst thing that can happen to character is when it exist solely because of its gender or race. Niko was an interesting character, but being eastern european wasn't his defining characteristic. Just make a good character, that happens to be woman. That's all they should do. That's why I fully support this: I would say someone like a female version of Tommy Vercetti. People under estimate her killer instincts simply because she's a woman, but can easily creat business contacts and ruthlessly murder those who get in her way (not going as over the top as Trevor Phillips of course) I don't want a stripper or a prostitute, unless it really complements the character. I really don't want to delve even deeper into stupid stereotypes. V was full of them already. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064924637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Ironically, if they do that, "make a good character, that happens to be woman" many will complain that they just made her female for the sake of making her female. But yeah, I hope they don't make her a stripper or prostitute because those 2 stereotypes are always romanticized in movies and TV and it's stupid. And I don't know if I'm supposed to feel related to the protagonists in GTA but a hooker or a stripper, just... no. And if they make her too pretty or attractive in an obvious way, I won't take her seriously. I wonder what would happen if they make an overweight girl as protagonist. Even if it turns out to be a good character, many won't want to touch her with a ten foot pole. But in any case I think the reviews will be on GTA's side, unless they really really screw up with the game. Edited March 8, 2014 by Rainbow Party Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064925338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I know on this mod I'm working on, we're trying to write a female protagonist in but the creator of the mod doesn't like the idea of "runnin around as a broad". Go back to 1956 for f*cks same. The angle I took was pretty different than what you guys mentioned, though. Considering her age an how she grew up right as video games were startin to get violent, she has some sort of video game addiction, being unable to tell the difference between fact from fiction, which is why she goes into over-the-top violence and other stuff when she's dealing with the regulars of her life, such as chasin down her neo-nazi ex or doing errands for a crooked cop. It may be cheap to put her in a shoot out and have he say "I played Motor Vehicle Theft, I know what I'm doing!" But hell, if it works for some people in reality that have video game addiction, it can sure work here. Rainbow Party 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064925649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Badgirl Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Let's say, ballpark, 95% of the people who play this game are men. False. If you google 'GTA fan art' 'GTA fan fiction' or GTA tumblr' you'll see that this series has a lot of female fans. Anyway, since some people here are so opposed to a female protagonist, how about another female antagonist? Female villains are rather rare in general, and I think this series could use another. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blennerville Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Bro's b4 ho's Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Bro's b4 ho's Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Party Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) If women are so great, why did God create Adam first and then Eve, instead of both at the same time?:trollface: Meanwhile, in 2004... -How would you approach a black character for the GTA series? -No, GTA has always been about white guys. Look at action movies, it's always a white guy in the lead role. Edited March 8, 2014 by Rainbow Party na89340qv0n34b09q340 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blennerville Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 but women are just objects, no ? Drunken Cowboy 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 but women are just objects, no ? Either somebody let you out of your cage at the mental home or you're just an awful troll. Given your join date, I'm assuming the latter. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064927673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If women are so great, why did God create Adam first and then Eve, instead of both at the same time? :trollface: Meanwhile, in 2004... -How would you approach a black character for the GTA series? -No, GTA has always been about white guys. Look at action movies, it's always a white guy in the lead role. Lol.True talk bro Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064928171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Cowboy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Let's say, ballpark, 95% of the people who play this game are men. False. If you google 'GTA fan art' 'GTA fan fiction' or GTA tumblr' you'll see that this series has a lot of female fans. Percentage does not necessarily equate to a quantity, ya' dingus. Let's say, ballpark, 95% of the people who play this game are men. We're looking for sex, plain and simple. You can't have an interesting, in-depth female protagonist to both function as a character without getting the male gamer's attention with sex. I still don't see why people say Lara Croft is such a "female triumph" of a character... Yeah, she strangulates people and pegs them with arrows, but with hardly any clothing and a pair that's about to bust out of her sh*t. I don't think you could make a female protagonist work. Being believable, tough, and sexy never works, and that's what you'd need to sell it. Or maybe we could just throw some hot stripper protagonist in, have her eat human stew and run around in her underwear, that dumb archetype clearly works for GTA fans... *COUGH COUGH* They don't need to make her attractive. And really, they shouldn't. People will buy the game even if the protag isn't a supermodel. Were Niko, Johnny, Michael or Trevor attractive? And when it comes to characters, R* didn't bow down to what people want yet. V got a lot of sh*t for having unlikable assh*les as protags. Other developers try to make their protagonists retalable and audience-friendly, even when it comes to crime games. R* gave us Michael and Trevor. Well do male gamers need attractive male protagonists? But seriously, name me one unattractive female characters that has great success. And moreover, the successful ones, Samus, Lara Croft, Chun-Li, all are in revealing, skin-tight outfits (well, out of the suit for Samus anyway.) I don't think male gamers are looking for reputability and realism when it comes to when in games, a plane in which lonely nerds can ogle and manipulate women all they want without ramifications. I mean, I just started playing Skyrim, and all the top voted mods for that game are skimpy armor and breast-inflating mods, in a game with such a large community and such possibility for other mods. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/691011-how-would-you-approach-a-female-character-for-the-series/#findComment-1064931872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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