GTA V is currently the best one in the series...

[Xyn]

 

86. One last thing is just a cutscene and Ramson is still i'll take her.

 

In that case V only has 60-64 missions. 5 of them are window shopping.

 

 

^San Andreas's police were just as bad as III and VC when you reached 4 or more stars. If you were on foot you were assaulted with an insane amount of pistol toting cops that just so happened to be in the vicinity all at once. As well as the SWAT, FBI and Military roadblocks where they shot at you with Uzis, MP5s, and M4s respectively.

True, but the increased spawn distance and better aiming system (paired with "hitman" ability) gave you a much better chance at surviving even 6 star persecutions/ Not by much, but the police weren't as relentless as before. Their strength was in their numbers, not their raw firepower.

A 6 star persecution in VC/III was your 3 second death sentence unless cheats were involved.

[GTAgamerWyald]

 

In that case V only has 60-64 missions. 5 of them are window shopping.

 

 

 

 

actually is 68 not 64. Plus even if those were prep tasks they were not simple cutscenes and take a picture or go make an internet account

Edited March 6, 2014 by GTAgamerCR7

[ViceCityStalker]

... story-wise and gameplay-wise. It's actually one of the best games I ever had a chance to play with. (I made this topic, because I thought it will make a nice difference to all those kids ranting here on things like "arcade handling" or "less lively open-world")

 

 

WORD NIGGA!

[Osho]

... story-wise ? no way dude.

 

Not even gameplay-wise, I would say it's the same as the past titles for the most, but not impressively that better

 

It's actually one of the best games

 

 

Indeed, exactly like every GTA has been much better for the improvements it brought in and new things it got going

 

I made this topic, because I thought it will make a nice difference to all those kids ranting here on things like "arcade handling" or "less lively open-world"

 

 

Arcade handling, may be. But, less lively open-world deserves to be considered in "seriously"

[Dick Justice]

The rushed story aside, GTA V is the best all-round game in the series.

 

- A strong cast of complex sociopaths.

- Diverse landscape to explore.

- Great gameplay - people complain, but I find it extremely fun.

- Missions may be fewer, but they're (for the most part) much better.

 

It's only real problem is that it's the jack-of-all trades, master of none. San Andreas had a similar problem, but was still an extremely good game.

 

I'd be willing to say no GTA game has a perfect story anyway. They all have flaws - San Andreas and IV were too long; the Las Venturas and Alderney segments were entirely unnecessary to their respective story. Vice City being an ode to Scarface is fine, but nothing to write home about. III was fine at the time, but in comparison to what videogames are doing these days, it doesn't have much going for it.

[Lethal Vaccine]

@Militia

 

Ok, this isn't a cop debate.

 

It never was. Cops are just an example. What I meant is that you have much less health and armor in V compared to any other GTA. You can't die from a single shotgun blast to the face in any other GTA. Also, the AI in general is extremely accurate, not just cops. Take the Ballas, the Lost, whatever. You stay out in the open swarmed by enemies, you're gonna have a bad time. In III, you can bunny hop around shotgunning enemies in the face and retreat to get more health with ease. In V you can't.

 

The initial goal of this game, and every GTA game since GTA III for me is to 100% and use 0 cheat codes. I am not talking about the cops, I am talking about getting to 100%.

 

Well, since you were talking about regenerative health and such, I thought you were talking about actual combat. Yea, 100% is pretty easy in V, I agree.

 

Missions are harder? LOL, what? I passed majority of them first try.

 

You passed them on first try. That doesn't mean they are easier. You probably can pass any mission from any previous GTA with no trouble aswell.

 

Not to mention there is only 69 main missions as well. It's much shorter than past games, too.

 

Less missions, but most of them are pretty long. Some guy beated III in an hour. III has more missions, but overall are much shorter. I would be surprised if someone is capable of speedrunning V in less time.

 

And I also have 0 Deaths and 0 Times Busted, along with 0 Times Cheated. How do I have 0 Deaths? Cuz I saved after each mission, so if I died, I reloaded. I am a statistic nut, and I want my stats perfect. I don't f*ck around.

 

Haha, I used to do that too. Because of that, and because I didn't want to loose my weapons.

 

Edit: quote got f*cked in the ass. Fixing...

 

I agree with you, now it seems we are on the same page. But the guy I am replying to below me is also right. the COPS were easier in III, But once you got to 4-6 stars, and standing in the open, count to 1, 2...You're dead. Because like he said, the guys in the FBI Kuruma, and inside the Rhino Tank blew you away in literally 2 seconds max. Maybe 1 or 1 1/2 seconds if you want to get technical here...No way is being wanted at a high level in III, nor VC, or SA easy. IV...I kinda think it's quite easy due to their poor accuracy. V, sure, the cops are tough, and have the accuracy, but still, III, VC, SA are just as hard at a high wanted level with 4 through 6 stars.

 

 

In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds.

 

Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are.

 

Run around like no tomorrow?

Did you remember III? As soon as the FBI got involved your ass was going down...and the 6 star, M16 toting military was just overkill; you were not surviving that for more than 3 seconds unless you had cheats.

Do you remember VC? Where the cops spawned their cars in perfect timing to ram into yours from an oncoming street, effectively slowing you down and giving them enough time to mp5 your ass?

 

SA & IV had a much lenient law system, and I'm glad V tries to go back to some of that hardcore difficulty, but III & VC are much more difficult & intense in that area than V is.

The missions in V are longer, not harder. Unless you are trying to Rambo through it all, it's a breeze. IV was harder. VCS was harder.

It may seem V is harder, but it's actually a cheap hard since the AI in V is so dead-aimed.

 

 

In Iv there was 86 missions in total as well.

 

88.

 

 

100% agreed, man. Everything you said was perfect about the cop systems in past games and V. Also the missions. Exactly. Longer doesn't mean harder. Spot on.

[GTAgamerWyald]

 

Not to mention there is only 69 main missions as well. It's much shorter than past games, too.

 

 

It's actually 73. GTA VC and GTA 3 along with VCS had less missions.

[AnDReJ98]

^As you see for VC & III it's enough to have 35-50 missions, for V it's not even near enough. Get over it.

[TableTennisChamp]

 

I laugh when people say things like "this may be my last GTA I buy". Of course you'll buy another one, and another one, and another one after that. Guess what? You'll buy every one of them, at least all from the main series. You won't be able to stand the hype Rockstar Games manages to produce. They're simply geniuses at that, and you know that well. As the gameplay goes - it has a plenty of facilitations, but it was not necessarily made because it was slanted towards the casuals, but it might been designed like that to make sure the player won't ruin the "rhythm" of a mission. They simply don't want to interrupt the scenario by putting too much difficulity. It was, of course, because of dem damn causals, but not completely. That's my thinking at least.

 

Keeping in mind I didn't watch any trailers. In fact, the only reason I knew V came out was because of word of mouth. I am not a big gamer and only own 3 PS3 games (Skate 2, GTA IV, and V) but my PS3 is backward compatible to play PS1 and 2 games, so of course I still own III, VC, SA, among a handful of other games. I guess it went over head as my main concern was the focus shifting to Online. If I never played San Andreas Online, IV Online, or V, why would I play that feature in a new GTA, as well. I know myself, and I won't. And like I said, the focus is now with Online. So yes...If they continue down the warpath they are and only worrying about Online, yes...I won't buy anymore games. Plus you gotta draw the line somewhere. Video games aren't really an adult type of thing. It's more of a younger generation thing. I am getting too old for this stuff and don't find it as fun as I used to back in the early 2000's with GTA III, VC, including SA.

 

You're a fool if you think video games aren't really an adult type of thing. Who do think is making videogames for a living right now? Younger generations? Oh please. I know more middle aged gamers than people my age and I've only been around for about 23 years.

[Lethal Vaccine]

You do realize, the people making video games are PROGRAMMERS and VIDEO GAME DESIGNERS, which takes a COLLEGE DEGREE for and isn't EASY for most people.

 

PLAYING video games is certainly a childhood thing, CREATING video games is something different

 

 

 

...This forum is filled with retards, I swear...

[Capitalist Communist]

GTA V is currently the best yoga simulator for sure.

[Luuk']

People of all ages play video games, mostly from 6 to 60 or something. Making them is entirely different, and done by people who are mostly 18+. Making video games is HARD, one error in the programming and you could have lots of bad glitches and stuff like that.

[El Zodape]

 

 

In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds.

 

Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are.

 

Run around like no tomorrow?

Did you remember III? As soon as the FBI got involved your ass was going down...and the 6 star, M16 toting military was just overkill; you were not surviving that for more than 3 seconds unless you had cheats.

Do you remember VC? Where the cops spawned their cars in perfect timing to ram into yours from an oncoming street, effectively slowing you down and giving them enough time to mp5 your ass?

 

SA & IV had a much lenient law system, and I'm glad V tries to go back to some of that hardcore difficulty, but III & VC are much more difficult & intense in that area than V is.

The missions in V are longer, not harder. Unless you are trying to Rambo through it all, it's a breeze. IV was harder. VCS was harder.

It may seem V is harder, but it's actually a cheap hard since the AI in V is so dead-aimed.

 

 

 

Ah, sh*t. You are right. I completeley forgot the military in III. Every soldier is wielding a minigun hidden inside an M16. Completey overkill. Waaay cheaper than V. The FBI is quite challenging, but I think 4 stars in V is worse.

SA's FBI is pretty tough too, I'd say on par with V while on foot. V is the only GTA that actually get's challenging in a car (yea, rhinos got nothing on those deadly FIB suvs).

 

But, as I said about III, anything below 5 stars is pretty easy. You jump around with a shotgun and once you run out of armor, you just run a couple of blocks and get more, becuase health and armor thingies are friggin everywhere. The exception would be the Leone. Those fa**ots with shotguns take sh*t from no one.

 

About the missions, they are harder. The fact they are longer it makes them harder (that's what she said) because you have to go through a lot of sh*t over and over again (if we don't count checkpoints). If you say it's cheap, yea, it is, just like the old GTAs that had shorter missions but forced you to load your game/respawn at the hospital, get a car, drive to the place, every time you failed.

 

I agree with you, now it seems we are on the same page. But the guy I am replying to below me is also right. the COPS were easier in III, But once you got to 4-6 stars, and standing in the open, count to 1, 2...You're dead. Because like he said, the guys in the FBI Kuruma, and inside the Rhino Tank blew you away in literally 2 seconds max. Maybe 1 or 1 1/2 seconds if you want to get technical here...No way is being wanted at a high level in III, nor VC, or SA easy. IV...I kinda think it's quite easy due to their poor accuracy. V, sure, the cops are tough, and have the accuracy, but still, III, VC, SA are just as hard at a high wanted level with 4 through 6 stars.

Yep, that's right. I was thinking about shooting triads with a shotgun while I typed that and kind of forgot about the cheap as heck 6 stars.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Zodape

[Lethal Vaccine]

People of all ages play video games, mostly from 6 to 60 or something. Making them is entirely different, and done by people who are mostly 18+. Making video games is HARD, one error in the programming and you could have lots of bad glitches and stuff like that.

 

Exactly. What I was getting at above was basically this. It doesn't take any skill to play a video game in any way, shape, or form. It takes the skill to DESIGN and PROGRAM the game.

 

There is WAY more kids in middle school and high school playing games than college people, or people who graduated college working 40+ hours a week with a career, having a social life, and having time to sleep. Where is all the time to play video games? Oh yeah, there is time if you have NONE of the above in your life. So surely, kids have a lot more time on their hands.

 

If you can't see the logic, then you probably need some help...

 

 

 

In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds.

 

Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are.

 

Run around like no tomorrow?

Did you remember III? As soon as the FBI got involved your ass was going down...and the 6 star, M16 toting military was just overkill; you were not surviving that for more than 3 seconds unless you had cheats.

Do you remember VC? Where the cops spawned their cars in perfect timing to ram into yours from an oncoming street, effectively slowing you down and giving them enough time to mp5 your ass?

 

SA & IV had a much lenient law system, and I'm glad V tries to go back to some of that hardcore difficulty, but III & VC are much more difficult & intense in that area than V is.

The missions in V are longer, not harder. Unless you are trying to Rambo through it all, it's a breeze. IV was harder. VCS was harder.

It may seem V is harder, but it's actually a cheap hard since the AI in V is so dead-aimed.

 

 

 

Ah, sh*t. You are right. I completeley forgot the military in III. Every soldier is wielding a minigun hidden inside an M16. Completey overkill. The FBI is quite challenging, but I think 4 stars in V is worse.

SA's FBI is pretty tough too, I'd say on par with V while on foot. V is the only GTA that actually get's challenging in a car (yea, rhinos got nothing on those deadly FIB suvs).

 

But, as I said about III, anything below 5 stars is pretty easy. You jump around with a shotgun and once you run out of armor, you just run a couple of blocks and get more, becuase health and armor thingies are friggin everywhere. The exception would be the Leone. Those fa**ots with shotguns take sh*t from no one.

 

 

Don't forget the Triads and Mafia. Once the Mafia starts hating you, and also the Cartel in Shoreside Vale carrying M16's or some high powered machine gun, they blow you away quite quickly. Mafia carrys pump shot guns. If you drive through their territory too slowly, they blow the entire car up with two shots. Sometimes only one, as well, if you're car was damaged from running into things, too.

 

Glad you realized your error, lol. GTA III, VC, SA cops are pretty much equal to V. People complaining (not you, so don't take it that way) over the cops are probably new to the series and don't know sh*t about the past games, hence why there is so much babies crying over police in GTA V. They aren't MUCH different than past games with IV being the exception. I believe IV is the easiest cop system to date, horrible accuracy, too. Idk how many times I stole the FIB Buffalo, NOOSE Patriot, Enforcer, etc. They never kill me while I run to the vehicle to steal it, etc...

[wiizardii]

I love the game. I do think personally it is the best right one, but Storyline wise not. That goes to either GTA San Andreas , GTA Vice City, or GTA IV. One of them. Gameplay wise, GTA V is the greatest GTA to date with Gameplay.

[Th3MaN1]

People, please stop using the term "fanboy", because from what I see, you people have no idea what it means. If the opinion of a person is that GTA V is the best game ever made, that doesn't make them a fanboy.

[El Zodape]

 

Don't forget the Triads and Mafia. Once the Mafia starts hating you, and also the Cartel in Shoreside Vale carrying M16's or some high powered machine gun, they blow you away quite quickly. Mafia carrys pump shot guns. If you drive through their territory too slowly, they blow the entire car up with two shots. Sometimes only one, as well, if you're car was damaged from running into things, too.

 

 

 

God bless Ray's Patriot.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Zodape

[œaœa]

I mean how groundbreaking was III's story? There are so many plot holes, did this matter? No it's still considered one of the greatest games of all time.

 

VC story, rip off of scarface. It was basically Scarface from a criminal-turned-business man's POV. Did this matter? No it's still considered one of the greatest games of all time.

 

SA, sigh. You were a gangbanger who is trying to save your brother from being killed in prison. Wow, such depth. Did this matter? No it's still considered one of the greatest games of all time.

 

IV is the only time Rockstar had an actual story to tell. And you all hated it at first, claiming (maybe rightfully so) that mission have no variety and the main character is depressed all the time.

 

Then they gave you variety, fixed the handling for those who hated it, and a giant city with a countryside. And you still bitch? You're all either 12 or over the age of 18 and still wanting it to be SA2.

 

Obviously there is a lot of criticism of IV and V so I wont get into all of it, but you get the point. Or do you?

Edited March 6, 2014 by sibs44

[LogScottWood]

GTA V is definitely the best installment in the series. From a storyline, gameplay, multiplayer and an environmental POV. I don't really get all the love for the GTA IV story. It is a good story with lots of mafioso paranoia and gang crossover, but I couldn't even really tell you how things escalate, as it's quite forgettable. There's diamonds, everyone wants the diamonds. Who's got the diamonds? Oh, no-one? How ironic. Plus all that stuff with Kate McReary was just embarrassing. At no point did I care about her, least of all when she was gunned down.

At the time, in 2008, a lot of pop culture was focused on the whole 'gritty reboot' thing and GTA IV slotted in nicely. But this made the game itself very grey, cold and uninspiring. Roman was f*cking well annoying and I didn't care much for the over-reaching Russian immigrant vibes (Russian radio stations, awful clothes etc)

 

Most of the missions were just hits on someone for a sum of money. I know GTA is a game full of murdering, but the heists in a new one have added a reconnaissance and planning aspect completely absent from the previous installment.

[Strength]

And I also have 0 Deaths and 0 Times Busted, along with 0 Times Cheated. How do I have 0 Deaths? Cuz I saved after each mission, so if I died, I reloaded. I am a statistic nut, and I want my stats perfect. I don't f*ck around.

 

 

Your style is just like mine. I've been playing like that since GTA III (well on my leatest save where I've been making episodes for Epic V* Survivals I have 35 deaths for all three characters). Also add here 0 civilian casualties.

 

Anyway, since I've been playing this series from the very first start in 1997 (well actually I started playing in the beginning of 1998), this is definitely the best GTA experience I ever had. I was not so hooked on any other game since 2004, SA days (I spent in 3D era of SA six months, every day for five to seven hours in 2004)! After the gameplay trailer, I knew exactly what I can expect from this game.

 

Now after spending almost six months in SA (for a few hours almost every day) I am still hooked as I was in the beginning. Even so I know the streets better then my pockets, every character physics and move I can make (I can predict outcome for most situtations I find myself into, no matter am I driving, flying, walking, freefalling, parachuting, hunting, massacring the cops or Military or doing anything else). Also when the heat is at the peak of the moment I can predict the exact moment of my characters death. Not to mention I can hande all the weapons on free aim and massacre half of the law departmens in SA like a pro and survive. Full use of a Cinematic camera while driving, flying, boating and knowing each of vehicle's engines and how it handles and everything else to make this game my top experience.

 

I still did not even touched the Online part yet (even so I was playing GTA IV's multiplayer for a good amount of time from 2010 till 2013) and higly doubt I will for a good period of time. So yes, for a long therm GTA fan as I am, GTA V is the ultimate experience and definitely the best game in the series.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Strength

[Osho]

How can people praise the game so much without considering that Casino, mall, restaurants, Heists and few other major (vehicles) / minor stuff, are still not unlocked or yet to be introduced.

It's not the best game untill we get to experience fully as desired.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Osho

[LogScottWood]

How can people praise the game so much without considering that Casino, mall, restaurants, Heists and few other major (vehicles) / minor stuff, are still unlocked or yet to be introduced.

It's not the best game untill we get to experience fully as desired.

 

Mall? Restaurants? How do they fit in with the GTA universe exactly? An eating and small-talk mini-game?

[Th3MaN1]

How can people praise the game so much without considering that Casino, mall, restaurants, Heists and few other major (vehicles) / minor stuff, are still not unlocked or yet to be introduced.

It's not the best game untill we get to experience fully as desired.

Most of that is for online. Just take GTA:O as a separate game. Sure, the casino's and the SP DLC are still yet to come, but the heists, and the other vehicles are designed for Online. And you already get the new cars in SP.

[El Zodape]

How can people praise the game so much without considering that Casino, mall, restaurants, Heists and few other major (vehicles) / minor stuff, are still not unlocked or yet to be introduced.

It's not the best game untill we get to experience fully as desired.

 

There's your answer.

[woggleman]

I don't about the best but certainly much much better than people give it credit for. People did the same thing to IV and now they finally appreciate it so I have no doubt they will come around on this.

[Shenmue18]

GTA V, the best story in the series?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbetvkPA6I

I can see where you're coming from in terms of gameplay, but I liked GTA San Andreas more in gameplay overall.

Edited March 6, 2014 by Shenmue18

[killahmatic]

SA had the best story, but V is the best game overall. IV wins for most boring story.

[Xav Curbelo]

SA had the best story, but V is the best game overall. IV wins for most boring story.

 

 

WHOOOOAAA, you just didn't.

[kj2022]

Missions are harder? LOL, what? I passed majority of them first try.

 

You passed them on first try. That doesn't mean they are easier. You probably can pass any mission from any previous GTA with no trouble aswell.

 

 

I'm sorry but if I can complete the first 10 missions while doing jello shots everytime I hear the word "nigga" it's a f*cking easy game. The entire game is easy, there is NOTHING to learn in it, and it takes away the fun. The story makes no sense 90% of the time... and it suffers. It's a good game, but it isn't what it should have, and could have, been.

[Lethal Vaccine]

Yeah, V is surely the easiest game in the series to 100%. The people who need to use cheats...Well...You should stop playing cuz you probably aren't very good at these games. V is not hard AT ALL.

 

It could of been because I was a lot younger at the time, but I thought III and SA were the hardest games out of III, VC, SA, IV, and V by a long shot...