BLOOD Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 69 missions might as well be very enough. For one protagonist, maybe, but not three. Also, do keep in mind that around 5 of the missions take less than a minute to complete (heist preparation such as buying masks or clothing). 69=Intertwined Interesting and Varied Missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detective Phelps Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 69=Intertwined Interesting and Varied Missions 5 of which take less than 6 minutes to complete. Yeah, interesting... 98 in 1, E•MO•TION, Bonnano and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 in 1 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 69 missions might as well be very enough. For one protagonist, maybe, but not three. Also, do keep in mind that around 5 of the missions take less than a minute to complete (heist preparation such as buying masks or clothing). 69=Intertwined Interesting and Varied Missions Not all of them are intertwined or interesting. warlord GTAV, universetwisters, Lethal Vaccine and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord GTAV Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Sir Richie havens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geralt of Rivia Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I laugh when people say things like "this may be my last GTA I buy". Of course you'll buy another one, and another one, and another one after that. Guess what? You'll buy every one of them, at least all from the main series. You won't be able to stand the hype Rockstar Games manages to produce. They're simply geniuses at that, and you know that well. As the gameplay goes - it has a plenty of facilitations, but it was not necessarily made because it was slanted towards the casuals, but it might been designed like that to make sure the player won't ruin the "rhythm" of a mission. They simply don't want to interrupt the scenario by putting too much difficulity. It was, of course, because of dem damn causals, but not completely. That's my thinking at least. Video games aren't really an adult type of thing. It's more of a younger generation thing. The average gamer age is like mid-thirties if I remember right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAZEL Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm preparing for the GTAF retired mod who still wonders these forums in his ducky slippers and still makes his mark about GTA IV being the best in the GTA series. I bet €5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyn Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 ... story-wise and gameplay-wise. It's actually one of the best games I ever had a chance to play with. (I made this topic, because I thought it will make a nice difference to all those kids ranting here on things like "arcade handling" or "less lively open-world") Story-wise? That goes to Vice City Stories. Gameplay-wise? San Andreas. Sure, V has it's moments, but since 3 characters have only 69 main missions to tell their tale (where as the rest, excluding EFLC, have had 40-98 main missions alone), neither the protagonists, antagonists or supporting cast are as fleshed out as they could've been. There is no real tale to be told except for the basic premise of 3 guys doing the FIB's dirty work, getting screwed & eventually retaliating. We have no real insight on the motives of the Antagonists besides the basic generic greed Catalina had 13 years ago. Guys like Tenpenny/Big Smoke, The Mendez Brothers, & even Massimo Torini had actual motives on why they were the way they were. What's the deal with Mr. Cheng or Stretch? What deeds, ill-will or excessive avarice did they have to make them Antagonists? In the grand scheme of things, none. Maybe if R* had fleshed them out more.... As of today, the III era cannot be surpassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuk' Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 IV (including DLC's) is better. Better story, cooler details, more missions (maybe less varying, but there were some really good ones, fixed in the DLC's which has amazing missions), better gameplay for the most part, driving more realistic, less glitches, better characters. Bonnano and Lethal Vaccine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detective Phelps Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 IV (including DLC's) is better. Better story, cooler details, more missions (maybe less varying, but there were some really good ones, fixed in the DLC's which has amazing missions), better gameplay for the most part, driving more realistic, less glitches, better characters. Well, story goes to IV, hands down, but gameplay and graphics go to V. Special abilities, multiple protags (I'm talking about gameplay here, not story impact), planes, blimp, countryside, and a larger variety of weapons mean that V wins in terms of gameplay. Bonnano and Luuk' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luuk' Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Gunplay is better than V, because it works better, you actually have recoil (more realistic) and shooting different parts of the body results in different amount of damage done, in V you can kill somebody with a simple shot in the leg, but in IV, you wound him and he can't walk properly. Graphics are of course better, being made 5 years later with more advanced engines. Physics are also better, because atleast in IV you can get after tripping on a high place, in V you just can't get up and tumble down constantly. Map is of course better, no contest. If we're counting DLC, I think IV has cooler vehicles, Annihilator didn't suck and the Buzzard could take a few hits, Stretch E, Coquette and Feltzer had better desings, NOOSE Patriot etc. Lethal Vaccine and Detective Phelps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jizzle2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Even if they made a hugely disappointing terrible game like la noire (jk la noire is one of my favorite games) id still keep buying there games at least the gtas because rockstar are the kings of making us want something they waved little chunks of gta info over the course of like 2 years and hundreds of YouTube channels were born just talkig about a game that wasn't even out. I don't know what I'm even talking about but yeah rockstar is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detective Phelps Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Physics are also better, because atleast in IV you can get after tripping on a high place, in V you just can't get up and tumble down constantly. I must admit that I liked the swing glitch. It's good to see that R* improved most things, but story is what really counts. Luuk' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
universetwisters Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 ... story-wise V's plot was nothing more than Michael & Trevor's drama and picking out matching outfits for heists. The interesting bits were few and far in between. E•MO•TION, Bonnano and Gnocchi Flip Flops 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGLuke Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 gta IV, definitely more replayable than, gta V. E•MO•TION 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) gta IV, definitely more replayable than, gta V. That, however, I don't believe is true. V at least had some memorable missions (outside of that mask buying bullsh*t) I'd enjoy repeating, most of them were pretty unique from each other. I can't say the same about IV, sadly. Even Three Leaf Clover, which is basically a glorified cutscene, is not something I consider replaying. Edited March 6, 2014 by oCrapaCreeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 @oCrapaCreeper V is great same for IV,yes V is my favourite but "Three Leaf Clover" was one of the Greatest Mission of All Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zodape Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I love GTA V, but it still doesn't feel the same or as "hardcore" or something like that, than past GTA games like III, VC, SA, or IV. I just find it more watered down, like checkpoints in missions, skipping sections in missions, regenerating health, etc. Whaaaaat? Hell no. It's the hardest GTA by far. I play GTA III, VS and SA since I was a kid/teenager and V is the hardest GTA to date (haven't played IV, though, so I don't know there). In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds. Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are. Edited March 6, 2014 by Zodape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xav Curbelo Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I don't think it's bad. As a matter of fact, I think GTA V's advertisement made us think that this would be de greatest game ever created. It's all brainwashing. Voggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I laugh when people say things like "this may be my last GTA I buy". Of course you'll buy another one, and another one, and another one after that. Guess what? You'll buy every one of them, at least all from the main series. You won't be able to stand the hype Rockstar Games manages to produce. They're simply geniuses at that, and you know that well. As the gameplay goes - it has a plenty of facilitations, but it was not necessarily made because it was slanted towards the casuals, but it might been designed like that to make sure the player won't ruin the "rhythm" of a mission. They simply don't want to interrupt the scenario by putting too much difficulity. It was, of course, because of dem damn causals, but not completely. That's my thinking at least. Video games aren't really an adult type of thing. It's more of a younger generation thing. The average gamer age is like mid-thirties if I remember right... Yeah? Well I put games down when I entered college in 2008. Got through college with 0 gaming, and then bought GTA V after college this past September as I had time to game again, and it's slowly running thin. I play for like 2 hours maybe 3 times a week, and four days without it. It's not as fun as when I was in middle school and high school, that is why I said it's a younger generation thing. It doesn't give me a hard on like it used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voggs Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I don't think it's bad. As a matter of fact, I think GTA V's advertisement made us think that this would be de greatest game ever created. It's all brainwashing. It was incredible how everyone went crazy when the first trailer came out. Even R* with their countdown thingy to make everyone more impatient. And then silence for months. It worked, I fell right on the hype, but so much wait wasn't really worth it, R* announce their games way too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal Vaccine Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I love GTA V, but it still doesn't feel the same or as "hardcore" or something like that, than past GTA games like III, VC, SA, or IV. I just find it more watered down, like checkpoints in missions, skipping sections in missions, regenerating health, etc. Whaaaaat? Hell no. It's the hardest GTA by far. I play GTA III, VS and SA since I was a kid/teenager and V is the hardest GTA to date (haven't played IV, though, so I don't know there). In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds. Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are. Ok, this isn't a cop debate. The cops are harder in GTA V, but it's still not hard to 100%. The initial goal of this game, and every GTA game since GTA III for me is to 100% and use 0 cheat codes. I am not talking about the cops, I am talking about getting to 100%. 100% is SO f*cking easy in this game and I finished it the quickest out of III, VC, SA, IV. V is a cake walk due to what I said, skip parts of missions, regenerating health, checkpoints in missions, keep guns/ammo when you die, etc. It's easy to 100% this game. Missions are harder? LOL, what? I passed majority of them first try. Not to mention there is only 69 main missions as well. It's much shorter than past games, too. And when I don't pass them first try, of the very few that I didn't, I sure as hell didn't use no skip mission. That sh*t's for the pussies. And I also have 0 Deaths and 0 Times Busted, along with 0 Times Cheated. How do I have 0 Deaths? Cuz I saved after each mission, so if I died, I reloaded. I am a statistic nut, and I want my stats perfect. I don't f*ck around. Edited March 6, 2014 by Militia Strength 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xav Curbelo Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I don't think it's bad. As a matter of fact, I think GTA V's advertisement made us think that this would be de greatest game ever created. It's all brainwashing. It was incredible how everyone went crazy when the first trailer came out. Even R* with their countdown thingy to make everyone more impatient. And then silence for months. It worked, I fell right on the hype, but so much wait wasn't really worth it, R* announce their games way too early. The best thing were the facebook posts. Every page I like was obsessive with GTA V: memes, news, broken discs, etc. etc. etc. And don't get me started with the Trevor Philips fanboyism after his trailer... Anyway, it was master marketing by Rockstar Games, can't blame them, and after all, it's us the ones who fell in their game. Voggs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zodape Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) @Militia Ok, this isn't a cop debate. It never was. Cops are just an example. What I meant is that you have much less health and armor in V compared to any other GTA. You can't die from a single shotgun blast to the face in any other GTA. Also, the AI in general is extremely accurate, not just cops. Take the Ballas, the Lost, whatever. You stay out in the open swarmed by enemies, you're gonna have a bad time. In III, you can bunny hop around shotgunning enemies in the face and retreat to get more health with ease. In V you can't. The initial goal of this game, and every GTA game since GTA III for me is to 100% and use 0 cheat codes. I am not talking about the cops, I am talking about getting to 100%. Well, since you were talking about regenerative health and such, I thought you were talking about actual combat. Yea, 100% is pretty easy in V, I agree. Missions are harder? LOL, what? I passed majority of them first try. You passed them on first try. That doesn't mean they are easier. You probably can pass any mission from any previous GTA with no trouble aswell. Not to mention there is only 69 main missions as well. It's much shorter than past games, too. Less missions, but most of them are pretty long. Some guy beated III in an hour. III has more missions, but overall are much shorter. I would be surprised if someone is capable of speedrunning V in less time. And I also have 0 Deaths and 0 Times Busted, along with 0 Times Cheated. How do I have 0 Deaths? Cuz I saved after each mission, so if I died, I reloaded. I am a statistic nut, and I want my stats perfect. I don't f*ck around. Haha, I used to do that too. Because of that, and because I didn't want to loose my weapons. Edit: quote got f*cked in the ass. Fixing... Edited March 6, 2014 by Zodape Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnocchi Flip Flops Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Who cares? Does this need a thread? I don't give a damn if you feel V is the best in the series. Want a cookie? And surprise, I disagree. V isn't the best in the series to me. But I'm not going to make a thread about that am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Who cares? Does this need a thread? I don't give a damn if you feel V is the best in the series. Want a cookie? And surprise, I disagree. V isn't the best in the series to me. But I'm not going to make a thread about that am I? atleast it better than the over 500 complaints threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgamerWyald Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 69=Intertwined Interesting and Varied Missions 5 of which take less than 6 minutes to complete. Yeah, interesting... Actually GTA 5's 69 missions isn't really accurate. this is what I got Chapter 1 Prologue Lamar and Franklin Repossession Complications Pulling Favors (in order to unlock chop you need this mission) Chop Father/Son Marriage Counseling Daddy's Little Girl The Good Husband The Long Stretch Friend Request Casing The Jewel Store Job Bugzstar BZ gas The Jewel Store Job. 16 missions Chapter 2 Mr. Philips TP Industries Nervous Ron Crystal Maze Friends Reunited. 5 missions Chapter 3 Fame or Shame Dead Man Walking Did Somebody Say Yoga? Three's Company By the Book Scouting The Port Minisub The Merryweather Heist Hotel Assassination Multi Target Assassination Hood Safari Trash Truck Tow Truck Getaway Car Boiler Suits Masks ( seriously what the Hell is this?. but then again the heist is pulled in badass way) Blitz Play I Fought The Law Mr. Richards Vice Assassination Bus Assassination Caida Libre (freefall) man rockstar tries to use our language too much. 22 missions Chapter 4 Deep Inside Minor Turbulence Paleto Score Setup Predator Military Hardware (anybody see a sir yes sir reference) Paleto Score The Construction Assassination Derailed Monkey Business. 9 missions Chapter 5 Hang Ten Surveying the Score Burry the Hatchet Pack Man (007 here) Fresh Meat The Ballad of Rocco Cleaning Out the Bureau Architect Plans Reuniting the Family Doting Dad The Bureau Raid The Wrap Up Legal Trouble Lamar Down Meltdown Parenting 101 Getaway Car Driller Derailed The Big Score The Third Way. 21 missions In total there are 73 missions. In Iv there was 86 missions in total as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyn Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds. Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are. Run around like no tomorrow? Did you remember III? As soon as the FBI got involved your ass was going down...and the 6 star, M16 toting military was just overkill; you were not surviving that for more than 3 seconds unless you had cheats. Do you remember VC? Where the cops spawned their cars in perfect timing to ram into yours from an oncoming street, effectively slowing you down and giving them enough time to mp5 your ass? SA & IV had a much lenient law system, and I'm glad V tries to go back to some of that hardcore difficulty, but III & VC are much more difficult & intense in that area than V is. The missions in V are longer, not harder. Unless you are trying to Rambo through it all, it's a breeze. IV was harder. VCS was harder. It may seem V is harder, but it's actually a cheap hard since the AI in V is so dead-aimed. In Iv there was 86 missions in total as well. 88. Lethal Vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98 in 1 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 ^San Andreas's police were just as bad as III and VC when you reached 4 or more stars. If you were on foot you were assaulted with an insane amount of pistol toting cops that just so happened to be in the vicinity all at once. As well as the SWAT, FBI and Military roadblocks where they shot at you with Uzis, MP5s, and M4s respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niobium Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I laugh when people say things like "this may be my last GTA I buy". Of course you'll buy another one, and another one, and another one after that. Guess what? You'll buy every one of them, at least all from the main series. You won't be able to stand the hype Rockstar Games manages to produce. They're simply geniuses at that, and you know that well. Yes, because you can totally predict what I will do in the future -_______- as for the hype thing you were talking about, they will not hype me up this time. I will remember all of the disappointments V brought, and will think if the next gta is worth getting or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgamerWyald Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) In previous GTAs you could run around shooting cops like no tomorrow and end up with 100 health and 40 armor. In V you try to do the very same thing and you'll end up on the ground in less than 5 seconds. Missions are way harder too. The checkpoints give you the illussion that they are easier, but they are not. Try to pass all the missions without using checkpoints, in other words, you die, you start the mission all over. There you will see how unforgiving V's missions are. Run around like no tomorrow? Did you remember III? As soon as the FBI got involved your ass was going down...and the 6 star, M16 toting military was just overkill; you were not surviving that for more than 3 seconds unless you had cheats. Do you remember VC? Where the cops spawned their cars in perfect timing to ram into yours from an oncoming street, effectively slowing you down and giving them enough time to mp5 your ass? SA & IV had a much lenient law system, and I'm glad V tries to go back to some of that hardcore difficulty, but III & VC are much more difficult & intense in that area than V is. The missions in V are longer, not harder. Unless you are trying to Rambo through it all, it's a breeze. IV was harder. VCS was harder. It may seem V is harder, but it's actually a cheap hard since the AI in V is so dead-aimed. In Iv there was 86 missions in total as well. 88. 86. One last thing is just a cutscene and Ramson is still i'll take her. Edited March 6, 2014 by GTAgamerCR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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