Do YOU Support Cash Cards

[B3astGTS]

 

And that would be fine, except that it's likely going to be on top of the cash card model they already have in place. IMO should have been paid DLC from the start.

 

 

Cash card model is dissipating dude.

 

Hence why Rooftop Rumble can be played whenever the hell you want, with the same payout and RP.

 

Same with Coveted. It even gives more CASH now.

 

 

That doesn't help people that don't have much time to farm, and it certainly doesn't help people that actually want to spend time doing something other than running those missions repeatedly.

[Odesza]

 

 

And that would be fine, except that it's likely going to be on top of the cash card model they already have in place. IMO should have been paid DLC from the start.

 

 

Cash card model is dissipating dude.

 

Hence why Rooftop Rumble can be played whenever the hell you want, with the same payout and RP.

 

Same with Coveted. It even gives more CASH now.

 

 

That doesn't help people that don't have much time to farm, and it certainly doesn't help people that actually want to spend time doing something other than running those missions repeatedly.

 

Coveted/RR only take like 5 minutes come on dude lol.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Odesza

[Biohazard Abyss]

Well, since you can start all the missions from the start menu now you can choose to do whatever missions you want and I can tell you that there are quite a few with good payouts of over 16k+ that take like 5-10 minutes to complete. So it's not like you'd have to invest hours on end "grinding" and it's not like you are forced to do the same exact mission 20 times.

 

 

Exactly. All the missions being available from the pause menu eliminate you having to sift through missions with crappy payouts.

 

Only thing that could possibly make it easier to make money is being able to create a playlist of all the missions you want.

[Odesza]

 

Well, since you can start all the missions from the start menu now you can choose to do whatever missions you want and I can tell you that there are quite a few with good payouts of over 16k+ that take like 5-10 minutes to complete. So it's not like you'd have to invest hours on end "grinding" and it's not like you are forced to do the same exact mission 20 times.

 

 

Exactly. All the missions being available from the pause menu eliminate you having to sift through missions with crappy payouts.

 

Only thing that could possibly make it easier to make money is being able to create a playlist of all the missions you want.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they added in that option as well.

 

In all honesty if being able to make 36k in around 15 minutes (including menu/loading times) isn't easy enough I don't really see how much more people need to be babied on this game.

[Flexx]

I would be more than happy to pay a subscription fee, or season pass, rather than give players the option to buy currency. That way no matter how much time you have, the playing field is level.

Someone probably asked you this already on one of your previous 30+ pages of back-an-forth regarding this topic, but tell me - how does buying cash cards make the playing field uneven to you?

 

From what I understand all cash cards can get you without playing and leveling up is a nice interior and a few super cars. You can't buy high-powered weapons, the tank, buzzard, or get those high profile contact features, right? You even need to win races in order to upgrade your car, and level up to buy clothes. Buying cash cards also does not fill up your skills bar. So what advantage does cash cards really give a player that creates a playing field that's not level?

Edited March 6, 2014 by Flexx

[B3astGTS]

 

 

 

 

And that would be fine, except that it's likely going to be on top of the cash card model they already have in place. IMO should have been paid DLC from the start.

 

All depends what the DLC adds, considering how easy it is to make money in this game I don't think the cash cards are as bad when in comparison to a weapon pack (with OP weapons) paid DLC. That would be actually be unbalanced as opposed to the illusion of cash cards being unbalanced.

 

 

It isn't easy to make money unless you grind specific missions over and over again. That's much worse than money being easy to make across all modes without grinding and having the choice to buy new stuff in DLC

 

Well, since you can start all the missions from the start menu now you can choose to do whatever missions you want and I can tell you that there are quite a few with good payouts of over 16k+ that take like 5-10 minutes to complete. So it's not like you'd have to invest hours on end "grinding" and it's not like you are forced to do the same exact mission 20 times.

 

 

You can choose but realistically people are going to choose the most efficient missions in terms of time/money. There's a reason why in these threads or any threads with money complaints people reply with coveted/rooftop rumble. The larger point is that you are stuck repeating missions which is the definition of grinding. All modes should have that kind of time/money efficiency so that if someone asks how to make money, you should be able to reply " You can't go wrong with anything so do whatever you want".

[Xyn]

 

I would be more than happy to pay a subscription fee, or season pass, rather than give players the option to buy currency. That way no matter how much time you have, the playing field is level.

Someone probably asked you this already on one of your previous 30+ pages of back-an-forth regarding this topic, but tell me - how does buying cash cards make the playing field uneven to you?

 

From what I understand all cash cards can get you without playing and leveling up is a nice interior and a few super cars. You can't buy high-powered weapons, the tank, buzzard, or get those high profile contact features, right? You even need to win races in order to upgrade your car, and level up to buy clothes. Buying cash cards also does not fill up your skills bar. So what advantage does cash cards really give a player that's causing a playing field that's not level?

 

Dude, not worth the time...save yourself.

What you pursue, you ain't getting.

[iiGh0STt]

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they added in that option as well.

 

In all honesty if being able to make 36k in around 15 minutes (including menu/loading times) isn't easy enough I don't really see how much more people need to be babied on this game.

 

which is all the more reason to not support buying cash cards! lol... because it's so easy to just play the game in any form.

 

 

I would be more than happy to pay a subscription fee, or season pass, rather than give players the option to buy currency. That way no matter how much time you have, the playing field is level.

Someone probably asked you this already on one of your previous 30+ pages of back-an-forth regarding this topic, but tell me - how does buying cash cards make the playing field uneven to you?

 

From what I understand all cash cards can get you without playing and leveling up is a nice interior and a few super cars. You can't buy high-powered weapons, the tank, buzzard, or get those high profile contact features, right? You even need to win races in order to upgrade your car, and level up to buy clothes. Buying cash cards also does not fill up your skills bar. So what advantage does cash cards really give a player that's causing a playing field that's not level?

 

why could you not buy a tank or buzzard? that makes no sense.... you assume all players are low level who buy cash cards...

 

how about merryweather, or lester. just a couple non rp related things... there is plenty more. How about the ability to buy a new house just because you are close to it... unrealistic? not at all. some people have more money than other and could care less where it goes, which gives them a HUGE advantage over other players. it really is that simple.

[Odesza]

 

 

 

 

 

And that would be fine, except that it's likely going to be on top of the cash card model they already have in place. IMO should have been paid DLC from the start.

 

All depends what the DLC adds, considering how easy it is to make money in this game I don't think the cash cards are as bad when in comparison to a weapon pack (with OP weapons) paid DLC. That would be actually be unbalanced as opposed to the illusion of cash cards being unbalanced.

 

 

It isn't easy to make money unless you grind specific missions over and over again. That's much worse than money being easy to make across all modes without grinding and having the choice to buy new stuff in DLC

 

Well, since you can start all the missions from the start menu now you can choose to do whatever missions you want and I can tell you that there are quite a few with good payouts of over 16k+ that take like 5-10 minutes to complete. So it's not like you'd have to invest hours on end "grinding" and it's not like you are forced to do the same exact mission 20 times.

 

 

You can choose but realistically people are going to choose the most efficient missions in terms of time/money. There's a reason why in these threads or any threads with money complaints people reply with coveted/rooftop rumble. The larger point is that you are stuck repeating missions which is the definition of grinding. All modes should have that kind of time/money efficiency so that if someone asks how to make money, you should be able to reply " You can't go wrong with anything so do whatever you want".

 

People reply with Coveted/RR because those are the 2 bigger/well known missions that people will instantly know what you're talking about when you mention them, or at least that's why I mention them.

 

There's also:

Mixed up with coke

Docks to Stock

Stocks and Scares

American Exports

On Maneuvers

Chemical Extraction

Bust Out

Docks to Stock II

 

And a few others that you can do with someone else in around 10 minutes or less with really good payouts. Oh and in my experience DMs are always a good way to make money as well and are fun if you are into that kind of thing.

 

 

I would be more than happy to pay a subscription fee, or season pass, rather than give players the option to buy currency. That way no matter how much time you have, the playing field is level.

Someone probably asked you this already on one of your previous 30+ pages of back-an-forth regarding this topic, but tell me - how does buying cash cards make the playing field uneven to you?

 

From what I understand all cash cards can get you without playing and leveling up is a nice interior and a few super cars. You can't buy high-powered weapons, the tank, buzzard, or get those high profile contact features, right? You even need to win races in order to upgrade your car, and level up to buy clothes. Buying cash cards also does not fill up your skills bar. So what advantage does cash cards really give a player that's causing a playing field that's not level?

 

why could you not buy a tank or buzzard? that makes no sense.... you assume all players are low level who buy cash cards...

 

how about merryweather, or lester. just a couple non rp related things... there is plenty more. How about the ability to buy a new house just because you are close to it... unrealistic? not at all. some people have more money than other and could care less where it goes, which gives them a HUGE advantage over other players. it really is that simple.

 

Honestly by the time you are high enough level to buy a tank you will have made enough to just buy it from mission payouts alone and then some, he's saying cash cards give you no advantage because you're still required to actually level up to unlock the items.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Odesza

[iiGh0STt]

 

 

 

You can choose but realistically people are going to choose the most efficient missions in terms of time/money. There's a reason why in these threads or any threads with money complaints people reply with coveted/rooftop rumble. The larger point is that you are stuck repeating missions which is the definition of grinding. All modes should have that kind of time/money efficiency so that if someone asks how to make money, you should be able to reply " You can't go wrong with anything so do whatever you want".

 

funny how they agreed with you up until you said exactly the same thing I have been saying for months.

Honestly by the time you are high enough level to buy a tank you will have made enough to just buy it from mission payouts alone and then some, he's saying cash cards give you no advantage because you're still required to actually level up to unlock the items.

 

 

how do you know how much money ANYONE has AT ANY LEVEL... how can you assume that player saves every penny.

 

here we go with the assumptions getting off topic again.. this is pathetic.

 

and also, after 120, leveling up means nothing. your argument is only based on low level players. again, irrelevant.

Edited February 28, 2014 by iiGh0STt

[Biohazard Abyss]

why could you not buy a tank or buzzard? that makes no sense.... you assume all players are low level who buy cash cards...

how about merryweather, or lester. just a couple non rp related things... there is plenty more. How about the ability to buy a new house just because you are close to it... unrealistic? not at all. some people have more money than other and could care less where it goes, which gives them a HUGE advantage over other players. it really is that simple.

 

 

Mercenaries suck and Lester's services are like $500.

 

Are you kidding me?

 

Buying a new house, to what, escape another player?

 

Pretty sure someone who spends real money for in-game cash doesn't do that....

Edited February 28, 2014 by Biohazard Abyss

[Coin]

Also can't recommend enough that if Rockstar do more social club events, JUMP ON THAT. Some seriously crazy money was to be made during the V-day one just from doing boat races.

[Odesza]

 

Honestly by the time you are high enough level to buy a tank you will have made enough to just buy it from mission payouts alone and then some, he's saying cash cards give you no advantage because you're still required to actually level up to unlock the items.

 

 

how do you know how much money ANYONE has AT ANY LEVEL... how can you assume that player saves every penny.

here we go with the assumptions getting off topic again.. this is pathetic.

and also, after 120, leveling up means nothing. your argument is only based on low level players. again, irrelevant.

 

 

 

By the time I hit the level required to buy a tank I had enough for the 400k apartment, a tank, weapons, ammo, and a few cars. I'm not saying players save every penny I'm just saying that they WILL have enough by that point legitimately.

 

And If you're gonna jump straight into insults and try to instigate a fight I'm not gonna bother replying to your posts any further, so good luck with that.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Odesza

[iiGh0STt]

 

 

"How about the ability to buy a new house just because you are close to it... "

 

Pretty sure people don't buy cash cards for reasons like this............

 

how do you know bio? how about something relevant for once. you have no idea what kind of people buy cash cards or use them for.

 

AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR!

 

By the time I hit the level required to buy a tank I had enough for the 400k apartment, a tank, weapons, ammo, and a few cars. I'm not saying players save every penny I'm just saying that they WILL have enough by that point legitimately.

 

 

And If you're gonna jump straight into insults and try to instigate a fight I'm not gonna bother replying to your posts any further, so good luck with that.

 

I never insulted you, or instigated anything. stop being so melodramatic. all of you are. all my quotes to you so far have been more than relevant and reasonable. Keep it on topic please.

[Biohazard Abyss]

 

 

 

"How about the ability to buy a new house just because you are close to it... "

 

Pretty sure people don't buy cash cards for reasons like this............

 

how do you know bio? how about something relevant for once. you have no idea what kind of people buy cash cards or use them for.

 

AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS FOR!

 

 

How about I'm countering your argument, dumbass.

 

Nobody does that. You're just coming up with retarded examples. People with GLITCHED money did things like that.

[CJXJ220]

I voted no.

 

It's not that I'm against the idea of cash cards, but I am against the price of the cash cards. I would consider spending a couple dollars here and there for a $500k card and save myself a few days of grinding, but $10? No thanks.

[iiGh0STt]

 

countering my argument with what? things you know nothing of? lol... no wonder its only you three back and forth now.

 

you literally have no idea what kind of people buy cash cards, or what they use them for. end of off topic slander thank you.

[Biohazard Abyss]

countering my argument with what? things you know nothing of? lol... no wonder its only you three back and forth now.

you literally have no idea what kind of people buy cash cards, or what they use them for. end of off topic slander thank you.

 

 

You literally have no idea what the hell you're talking about, because you're brainless.

 

But we all know that already.

[iiGh0STt]

hell, up until yesterday I thought no one would take a screenshot the second I liked their post, then unlike it, and try to use it against me in some kind of facebook drama way. but I guess I was wrong.

I know I get under your skin, try not to let it cloud your judgement as much though.

[B3astGTS]

 

 

 

 

 

 

And that would be fine, except that it's likely going to be on top of the cash card model they already have in place. IMO should have been paid DLC from the start.

 

All depends what the DLC adds, considering how easy it is to make money in this game I don't think the cash cards are as bad when in comparison to a weapon pack (with OP weapons) paid DLC. That would be actually be unbalanced as opposed to the illusion of cash cards being unbalanced.

 

 

It isn't easy to make money unless you grind specific missions over and over again. That's much worse than money being easy to make across all modes without grinding and having the choice to buy new stuff in DLC

 

Well, since you can start all the missions from the start menu now you can choose to do whatever missions you want and I can tell you that there are quite a few with good payouts of over 16k+ that take like 5-10 minutes to complete. So it's not like you'd have to invest hours on end "grinding" and it's not like you are forced to do the same exact mission 20 times.

 

 

You can choose but realistically people are going to choose the most efficient missions in terms of time/money. There's a reason why in these threads or any threads with money complaints people reply with coveted/rooftop rumble. The larger point is that you are stuck repeating missions which is the definition of grinding. All modes should have that kind of time/money efficiency so that if someone asks how to make money, you should be able to reply " You can't go wrong with anything so do whatever you want".

 

People reply with Coveted/RR because those are the 2 bigger/well known missions that people will instantly know what you're talking about when you mention them, or at least that's why I mention them.

 

There's also:

Mixed up with coke

Docks to Stock

Stocks and Scares

American Exports

On Maneuvers

Chemical Extraction

Bust Out

Docks to Stock II

 

And a few others that you can do with someone else in around 10 minutes or less with really good payouts. Oh and in my experience DMs are always a good way to make money as well and are fun if you are into that kind of thing.

 

 

I would argue that they are the most well mentioned due to time/money efficient and not just a case of being well known. I have played the missions you list above and they aren't as time friendly. Beyond that though you are ignoring the larger point that the only way to make good money (outside of cash cards) at this point is to repeat missions ad nauseum and that makes it into a grind. Tying it back to my earlier opinion, I'd rather R* take the approach of making every mode pay well so that there isn't a grind and everything currently in the game is affordable, and release paid DLC to make money.

[Odesza]

I voted no.

 

It's not that I'm against the idea of cash cards, but I am against the price of the cash cards. I would consider spending a couple dollars here and there for a $500k card and save myself a few days of grinding, but $10? No thanks.

What level are you? 500K in a few days is a bit strange, especially since you can make over 120k in an hour.

 

I would argue that they are the most well mentioned due to time/money efficient and not just a case of being well known. I have played the missions you list above and they aren't as time friendly. Beyond that though you are ignoring the larger point that the only way to make good money (outside of cash cards) at this point is to repeat missions ad nauseum and that makes it into a grind. Tying it back to my earlier opinion, I'd rather R* take the approach of making every mode pay well so that there isn't a grind and everything currently in the game is affordable, and release paid DLC to make money.

 

While playing with 2-3 other people I managed to finish a few of the listed above in around the same time as coveted. It really depends how you're spending your money and what you exactly need, also on the level that you are that determines whether you have to "grind" for anything. I've said a couple of times now I wouldn't have a problem with paid DLCs (which they're going to do) but it really depends what's included in the DLCs.

 

Also again if you're into DMs those are a decent way to make money as well.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Odesza

[iiGh0STt]

 

Tying it back to my earlier opinion, I'd rather R* take the approach of making every mode pay well so that there isn't a grind and everything currently in the game is affordable, and release paid DLC to make money.

 

Yea they will do that to ya.... and I could not agree more if I said it myself...

 

lol... wait..

 

it seems since I started commenting and well on topic, the regulars have showed up and will vulture over any comment that is not to their liking. God forbid I quote them though... or they quote me... it's instant trolling.

 

Keep voting guys, I love how much it rattles their cage so far.

Edited February 28, 2014 by iiGh0STt

[Biohazard Abyss]

I would argue that they are the most well mentioned due to time/money efficient and not just a case of being well known. I have played the missions you list above and they aren't as time friendly. Beyond that though you are ignoring the larger point that the only way to make good money (outside of cash cards) at this point is to repeat missions ad nauseum and that makes it into a grind. Tying it back to my earlier opinion, I'd rather R* take the approach of making every mode pay well so that there isn't a grind and everything currently in the game is affordable, and release paid DLC to make money.

 

 

It's not a grind though.

 

Odesza provided you with 8 good missions that you can access at any time, when you feel like making money. GTA Online has other things to do. It's not 100% missions.

 

Odesza is merely saying when you want to make money, you have numerous options available. You can hop online, screw around with friends, race a little (earning money), then when you want to do missions, you have opportunities for easy cash, and a variety of them. Grinding is playing the same 1-3 missions over and over. Eight is a large variety, and you can play lower-paying missions here and there to spice it up even more.

 

Grinding is a choice.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Biohazard Abyss

[iiGh0STt]

 

 

 

Grinding is a choice.

 

 

so is casually playing and ignoring the fact you are still earning money legit.

 

now the term they are harping on is grinding.. it changes from thread to thread. ignoring the rest.

Edited February 28, 2014 by iiGh0STt

[Odesza]

Eight is a large variety, and you can play lower-paying missions here and there to spice it up even more.

 

Some of the lower level missions are actually pretty fun, don't think I'd ever play another second of Violent Duct though, just seeing that name gives me the chills.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Odesza

[CJXJ220]

 

I voted no.

 

It's not that I'm against the idea of cash cards, but I am against the price of the cash cards. I would consider spending a couple dollars here and there for a $500k card and save myself a few days of grinding, but $10? No thanks.

What level are you? 500K in a few days is a bit strange, especially since you can make over 120k in an hour.

 

181-182?

 

Exactly, but when I only have time to play for an hour or two each day, that's 2-3 days to make the 500k, and I'm getting a little burned out on doing the same missions over and over. $2 or $3 wouldn't be that big of a deal to me, but they will never be that cheap.

[iiGh0STt]

Some of the lower level missions are actually pretty fun, don't think I'd ever play another second of Violent Duct though, just seeing that name gives me the chills.

off topic. come on odesza...

[Odesza]

 

 

I voted no.

 

It's not that I'm against the idea of cash cards, but I am against the price of the cash cards. I would consider spending a couple dollars here and there for a $500k card and save myself a few days of grinding, but $10? No thanks.

What level are you? 500K in a few days is a bit strange, especially since you can make over 120k in an hour.

 

181-182?

 

Exactly, but when I only have time to play for an hour or two each day, that's 2-3 days to make the 500k, and I'm getting a little burned out on doing the same missions over and over. $2 or $3 wouldn't be that big of a deal to me, but they will never be that cheap.

 

Ah, well if you only have an hour a day to play I can understand why you have a hard time making that much. I don't actually know 100% all the cash card prices so sorry if I'm wrong but isn't there a $3 card for 100k and a $5 for 200k?

[Revoltion]

I don't really see how you can 'not agree with them' to be honest. Whether you buy them is a completely different matter, but I'm sure there would be a lot of people out there complaining if there was no way to buy in-game money.

 

Personally I wouldn't buy them, but I know others out there will and R* has to (attempt) to keep everyone happy.

[CJXJ220]

 

 

 

I voted no.

 

It's not that I'm against the idea of cash cards, but I am against the price of the cash cards. I would consider spending a couple dollars here and there for a $500k card and save myself a few days of grinding, but $10? No thanks.

What level are you? 500K in a few days is a bit strange, especially since you can make over 120k in an hour.

 

181-182?

 

Exactly, but when I only have time to play for an hour or two each day, that's 2-3 days to make the 500k, and I'm getting a little burned out on doing the same missions over and over. $2 or $3 wouldn't be that big of a deal to me, but they will never be that cheap.

 

Ah, well if you only have an hour a day to play I can understand why you have a hard time making that much. I don't actually know 100% all the cash card prices so sorry if I'm wrong but isn't there a $3 card for 100k and a $5 for 200k?

 

There are but $5 is a lot of money for only $200k IMO