Dope_0110 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 This is by far the stupidest theory ever. I SHADOWFOX I, Black & White, GroundZero and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKSTAR MANIC Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 "If Brad was here, he would of f*cking loved this. Instead, he has to be molesting white collar criminals in the federal penitentiary"- Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentrion Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Not possible. Brad's corpse was still there. His death wasn't faked. Luddite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Lester set up the mission, Brad went on the mission. They're two different people. Think. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldWideFM Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It's quite a cute theory but as others have said, it just doesn't add up. On a related note, for a really long portion of the story I was genuinely convinced that Dave Norton was Brad I forgot what Brad looked like along the course of the story, and then there was a mission where Michael said to Dave "Trevor recognised you right away" or something along those lines. Of course, it turned out he meant that Trevor recognised him as the man plastered all over the newspapers as the man who killed The Michael Townley, but for a bit I thought he was maybe Brad. It would'be been quite an interesting twist in a way, but I'm extremely glad that this wasn't what they went with in the end. It would've been silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord GTAV Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Spew can't be serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tator1 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 It's not possible because Lester existed during the North Yankton heist, its stated in the dialog, not going to dig where they've said it, but its there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TableTennisChamp Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Sorry, not possible. And they don't look or sound alike. Too bad bro. Think deeper, it makes sense No, it doesn't make sense especially since they are two different people. Lester Crest even told them not to do the North Yankton job. Yes but Micheal may have said it was Lester when in reality it was Brad who said not to do the job, Trevor would have got suspicious, if Micheal had said 'Brad told them they shouldn't do it. and the body from the coffin? well a lot of people got shot in that heist, lets die some hair get some make up or something. You're wrong and everyone else is proving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastershake616 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Fun little theory, but it's invalidated by the fact that Trevor already knew Lester from the Yankton days. Edited March 1, 2014 by mastershake616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholesterol Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) When I first got V I wasn't really paying attention to the story and thought Lester was Brad at first. I was just so overwhelmed with hype playing a new GTA to actually pay attention. Of course, it soon came apparent this wasn't the case. Actually the question should be is Lester Darkel's spiritual successor? Based on his assassination missions to take down San Andreas' economy similar to those of Darkel's original missions for III. Edited March 1, 2014 by Loxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntoGloryRide Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This game uses very similar character models sometimes...Hell, look at Steve Haines, Josh Bernstein and the tennis coach. You can barely tell those 3 apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E•MO•TION Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This is the type of thread I would have expected from greenrock. Cutter De Blanc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticfang Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 So my question is why didn't Lester want the NY heist to go ahead? Did he have inside information (possible) from the FIB that it was a trap or did he not know what Michael was going to do? Also remember toward the end it's revealed it's junior FIB staffers writing the emails to Trevor and not Brad himself, but that does make me wonder just how much Lester's involved in it all. I think he's helping out the FIB as well as M/T/F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 No. Brad was killed, even Agent Horton admitted that he died and wasn't part of the deal. Brad and Trevor were originally meant to be killed. Brad was more of a redneck. Plus - Michael knew Lester before his time as an informant. I'm sure Brad and Lester were two different human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S l a d e Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah and Franklin is CJ! And Michael is Tommy, and Trevor is Claude!!!!! It has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeLennon Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah and Franklin is CJ! And Michael is Tommy, and Trevor is Claude!!!!! And You are drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nz_fool Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks for all the replys. I do agree with most of you Lester can't possibly be Brad. It made sense in my mind. but I still stand with the physical features between them and agree that R* reuse character models. and TBH i like to pretend Michael is really an older Tommy. but we all know that's impossible. and on a serious note I honestly think Franklin is somehow related to CJ maybe a nephew or grandson. whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cholesterol Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) So my question is why didn't Lester want the NY heist to go ahead? Did he have inside information (possible) from the FIB that it was a trap or did he not know what Michael was going to do? Also remember toward the end it's revealed it's junior FIB staffers writing the emails to Trevor and not Brad himself, but that does make me wonder just how much Lester's involved in it all. I think he's helping out the FIB as well as M/T/F It was probably they're most audacious heist at that point. Lester didn't want to take that risk because he thought T, M, and B weren't ready to do something that big yet. He wanted to progress to that point, but Mikey had other plans now didn't he? He got under T's skin to do it, and ignored Lester to set them up. Question is, why didn't Mike send the feds to get Lester? Why protect him? Did he try to get Lester in on the plan, and did he get cold feet before things went down? ALL THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND MORE* IN THE UPCOMING SP DLC!! * by more we mean alot more bugs and some crappy license plate skins. COMING SOON* * by soon we mean September... maybe... Edited March 2, 2014 by Loxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nz_fool Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 So my question is why didn't Lester want the NY heist to go ahead? Did he have inside information (possible) from the FIB that it was a trap or did he not know what Michael was going to do? Also remember toward the end it's revealed it's junior FIB staffers writing the emails to Trevor and not Brad himself, but that does make me wonder just how much Lester's involved in it all. I think he's helping out the FIB as well as M/T/F It was probably they're most audacious heist at that point. Lester didn't want to take that risk because he thought T, M, and B weren't ready to do something that big yet. He wanted to progress to that point, but Mikey had other plans now didn't he? He got under T's skin to do it, and ignored Lester to set them up. Question is, why didn't Mike send the feds to get Lester? Why protect him? Did he try to get Lester in on the plan, and did he get cold feet before things went down? ALL THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND MORE* IN THE UPCOMING SP DLC!! * by more we mean alot more bugs and some crappy license plate skins. COMING SOON* * by soon we mean September... maybe... you should start a new thread. it would be interesting to see what others think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celticfang Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 So my question is why didn't Lester want the NY heist to go ahead? Did he have inside information (possible) from the FIB that it was a trap or did he not know what Michael was going to do? Also remember toward the end it's revealed it's junior FIB staffers writing the emails to Trevor and not Brad himself, but that does make me wonder just how much Lester's involved in it all. I think he's helping out the FIB as well as M/T/F It was probably they're most audacious heist at that point. Lester didn't want to take that risk because he thought T, M, and B weren't ready to do something that big yet. He wanted to progress to that point, but Mikey had other plans now didn't he? He got under T's skin to do it, and ignored Lester to set them up. Question is, why didn't Mike send the feds to get Lester? Why protect him? Did he try to get Lester in on the plan, and did he get cold feet before things went down? Well it's easy to get underT's skin though. IMO M/T/B wanted to do the NY heist due to M's deal with the FIB. Remember that in the casing for the first heist Lester goes into M and Dave's relationship and after the heist Dave comes around to warn M about T. So M had already done the deal in secret but he had to go along with the heist but the NY cops showed up and then the FIB shot Brad and left him to die. Why didn't he send the Feds? Because they had him by the balls and told him do this and you get a new life (look at Karen in IV and what she was showed to be) and they thought Lester wasn't able to be found. Or Lester had info on the Feds that he was using to blackmail them, given his technical prowess it wouldn't amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiizardii Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 This game uses very similar character models sometimes...Hell, look at Steve Haines, Josh Bernstein and the tennis coach. You can barely tell those 3 apart. Dude, the first time in my GTA V gameplay, I actually thought that Steve was the Tennis coach LOL. I thought he was like an undercover cop to do the thing or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luddite Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Lester, Brad and a third brother are identical triplets. Brad is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly Zaroon Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Hey guys, I just had a crazy thought. What if Brad never died in the prologue, what if he was in on Micheal's new life deal, what if he also faked his death, changed his name and moved to Los Santos as Lester Crest? Think about it look closely at Brad in the prologue, see that little limp in his right leg? Now compare it to Lester's limp. If you have any evidence supporting this theory comment below, it would be awesome to see your thoughts on this. when i play for first time i got confused to see that why Trev still complaining about busting out brad outta prison while talking with him Edited March 2, 2014 by Aiden Pierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Winthorpe Herrington Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ahaha are you serious? Lester is not Brad. My evidence? Lester is Lester and Brad is Brad, so there is no changing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black & White Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hey guys, I just had a crazy thought. What if Brad never died in the prologue, what if he was in on Micheal's new life deal, what if he also faked his death, changed his name and moved to Los Santos as Lester Crest? Think about it look closely at Brad in the prologue, see that little limp in his right leg? Now compare it to Lester's limp. If you have any evidence supporting this theory comment below, it would be awesome to see your thoughts on this. when i play for first time i got confused to see that why Trev still complaining about busting out brad outta prison while talking with him Brad and Trevor were close and were great friends. Obviously he doesn't want his best friend to rot in prison for the rest of his life. Knowing Trevor, he would atleast attempt to bust Brad out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly Zaroon Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Hey guys, I just had a crazy thought. What if Brad never died in the prologue, what if he was in on Micheal's new life deal, what if he also faked his death, changed his name and moved to Los Santos as Lester Crest? Think about it look closely at Brad in the prologue, see that little limp in his right leg? Now compare it to Lester's limp. If you have any evidence supporting this theory comment below, it would be awesome to see your thoughts on this. when i play for first time i got confused to see that why Trev still complaining about busting out brad outta prison while talking with him Brad and Trevor were close and were great friends. Obviously he doesn't want his best friend to rot in prison for the rest of his life. Knowing Trevor, he would atleast attempt to bust Brad out. Ah man,gotta teach you a little about sarcasm Edited March 3, 2014 by Aiden Pierce Watch Dogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Cowboy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Because Brad isn't really in Michael Townley's grave at all... It's actually... A JETPACK! DUH DUH DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHNNNN!!!! Corinthians1996, TJGM and Lowi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord GTAV Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 locked this thread is worst then some of mine sorry worse,,, my npc on a cow one was better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nz_fool Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 locked this thread is worst then some of mine sorry worse,,, my npc on a cow one was better Hey it's just a theory, I had an idea and was looking for evidence, not dicks to put me down, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcusem3 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Lester set up the mission, Brad went on the mission. They're two different people. Think. Lester did more than set up the mission, if you listen carefully all the conversations with Michael talking to Trevor and Dave talking to Michael, Michael says to Trevor:"...And Lester told us to not do that job remember?"(reffering to the Prologue heist), and if you also listen carefully the conversation that Dave has with Michael during a mission, Dave said that Trevor would found out one of those options, or you got shot and turned yourself in to start a new life or you made a deal with the cops and lead your crew to an ambush to kill them all. So my theory is that Lester was on to michael, he probally knew that he was working with the cops and was going to ambush them, he tried to warn them to not do that job. EDIT: just got a idea for gta 6, maybe it could be a gta 5 but before the prologue, and the final mission would be the prologue, for me it could me equal to gta v, instead of having Trevor Franklin and Michael it would be Trevor Michael and Brad, would love to know everything that happened before the prologue heist Edited December 17, 2014 by Xcusem3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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