thatGuyyy 215 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I loved everything about Johnny. Hot temper, tough guy persona, raspy voice, rugged exterior, philosophical quotes, his confidence. Everything about him was just so cool, definitely one of my favorites. Its a shame R* just pissed on his character, Trevor isn't half the man Johnny was 15 Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Arthur 1,056 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 He is? For me, Niko is. He has them badass Red Army skills. I'm sure SOL would agree with me. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,833 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Instead of just saying all the posetive Johnny things again I always say, I'll settle for saying "I agree". 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Black & White 236 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I'm not totally positive. I liked Johnny so much and I thought he was amazing. I can't really stay here all day and decide which GTA character is the most badass. I'm sure Johnny is in the top five. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ledsbourne 51 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have to agree as well, Johnny is easily the most "badass" protagonist and my favourite one, even better than Tommy from VC. I've never found Niko to be actually badass at all, he was a revenge fueled maniac, yet he seemed to feel guilty and bad about his killings and Rockstar tried to put all those philosophy to his behaviour which didn't seem right in my opinion. And Niko had that very calm and kinda friendly voice with funny accent and looks of a hobo which contradicted his empty shell, devoid of feelings characteristics. Link to post Share on other sites
Black & White 236 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have to agree as well, Johnny is easily the most "badass" protagonist and my favourite one, even better than Tommy from VC. I've never found Niko to be actually badass at all, he was a revenge fueled maniac, yet he seemed to feel guilty and bad about his killings and Rockstar tried to put all those philosophy to his behaviour which didn't seem right in my opinion. And Niko had that very calm and kinda friendly voice with funny accent and looks of a hobo which contradicted his empty shell, devoid of feelings characteristics. Yeah. Niko wasn't a badass. He did things to survive had an emotional state of mind. Although Johnny was quite emotional and cared about his crimes, Niko was far more sensitive. Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,833 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 They "cared" in different ways. Johnny killed to protect his brothers, ol' lady, and club. Niko killed to survive and get further to his revenge. Either way, Serbian army yokel or 230 pounds of Jewish biker, they were both pretty badass. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Black & White 236 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 They "cared" in different ways. Johnny killed to protect his brothers, ol' lady, and club. Niko killed to survive and get further to his revenge. Either way, Serbian army yokel or 230 pounds of Jewish biker, they were both pretty badass. I never really saw Niko as a badass. He didn't act like that. He was soft and had a heart. He killed for money. He had far more emotions and regret than any other GTA protagonist. He was also depressed and had nothing to live for. He simply didn't give a f*ck about killing people for money. He saw it as they had it coming to them. It was either him or someone else, really. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Limiter 22 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 They "cared" in different ways. Johnny killed to protect his brothers, ol' lady, and club. Niko killed to survive and get further to his revenge. Either way, Serbian army yokel or 230 pounds of Jewish biker, they were both pretty badass. I never really saw Niko as a badass. He didn't act like that. He was soft and had a heart. He killed for money. He had far more emotions and regret than any other GTA protagonist. He was also depressed and had nothing to live for. He simply didn't give a f*ck about killing people for money. He saw it as they had it coming to them. It was either him or someone else, really. That is what makes Niko such a unique guy in the category of badasses. He had a soft side to him. Also, it is not like he did not give a f*ck about killing people, there were times he actually did not want to kill. A lot of times, he was forced to kill even if he did not want to. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Oraange 159 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Badass? I think you're mistaken. Ken Rosenberg takes the gold here. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Niobium 11,632 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Badass? I think you're mistaken. Ken Rosenberg takes the gold here. no its wade Srsly though, johnny reminds me so much of john marston. This already has been mentioned before, but both had a rapsy voice, were betrayed by their gang, had a gang leader who went crazy... sh*t, they had so many similarities. The only difference I can think of between johnny and john is that johnny rode bikes and john rode horses. I bet johnny would totally get along with john... if they weren't seperated by different universes and time periods of course. Edited March 7, 2014 by nobum62 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,833 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Badass? I think you're mistaken. Ken Rosenberg takes the gold here. no its wade Srsly though, johnny reminds me so much of john marston. This already has been mentioned before, but both had a rapsy voice, were betrayed by their gang, had a gang leader who went crazy... sh*t, they had so many similarities. The only difference I can think of between johnny and john is that johnny rode bikes and john rode horses. I bet johnny would totally get along with john... if they weren't seperated by different universes and time periods of course. Yeah. And that's just what the little wiki triva's say. Their leaders' names were "William". They began their relationship with the gang's "whore", and died with by their sides. They rode with outlaw gangs, trying to reform and bring a sense of honor to the gang while their reckless leaders and kissass sidekicks drove the gang into oblivion. They did work for government agents. They're crack shots, and both have a "good eye". They both have facial scars... The list goes on. The most important thing; though, is their senses of values Stubbs put best when saying "were better set for medieval times." They saw goodness in people like Ashley and Abigail (both "A" names.This is f*cking Kennedy and Lincoln all over again I swear.) They tried not to hurt the innocent, and they stood up for their gang's code. The only thing ones... Marston got his "Redemption" in the end, while Johnny was "Damned" by sh*tty writing and protagonist. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Black & White 236 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Badass? I think you're mistaken. Ken Rosenberg takes the gold here. no its wade Srsly though, johnny reminds me so much of john marston. This already has been mentioned before, but both had a rapsy voice, were betrayed by their gang, had a gang leader who went crazy... sh*t, they had so many similarities. The only difference I can think of between johnny and john is that johnny rode bikes and john rode horses. I bet johnny would totally get along with john... if they weren't seperated by different universes and time periods of course. Yeah. And that's just what the little wiki triva's say. Their leaders' names were "William". They began their relationship with the gang's "whore", and died with by their sides. They rode with outlaw gangs, trying to reform and bring a sense of honor to the gang while their reckless leaders and kissass sidekicks drove the gang into oblivion. They did work for government agents. They're crack shots, and both have a "good eye". They both have facial scars... The list goes on. The most important thing; though, is their senses of values Stubbs put best when saying "were better set for medieval times." They saw goodness in people like Ashley and Abigail (both "A" names.This is f*cking Kennedy and Lincoln all over again I swear.) They tried not to hurt the innocent, and they stood up for their gang's code. The only thing ones... Marston got his "Redemption" in the end, while Johnny was "Damned" by sh*tty writing and protagonist. Probably just influenced by John Marston. Quite cool how Marston could be chose as the father of each GTA V online character. Link to post Share on other sites
LeatherLion 13 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) I agree with all of you. Johnny is by far the best and probably always will be. He was so hardcore. Trevor is not really a badass. First of all, he fears his mom so bad that he started crying like a 3 year old. Second, he always needs help from either Ron and Wade or Michael and Franklin and sometimes gets other people to do his own sh*t. Johnny got into a house of dealers and pimps and killed them all to save his old lady from them and he did it all by himself. Johnny my favourite character along with Claude, Tommy and Vic. On the other hand, people keep mentioning how different Niko is because he had a heart. Johnny had a heart too. Most of the time Johnny did a crime, he did it to get someone else out of trouble. In a phone call Angus, he mentioned that he has a soft spot for the weak when they're in trouble < that's the definiton of the badass with a heart of gold. In Another phone call after Jim's death, Johnny mentioned that he will keep sending money to Jim's family. That IS having a heart. It's their soft sides that make both Niko and Johnny more badass than they already are. If Johnny wasn't on meth, he would have ripped Trevor in peices. Edited February 21, 2015 by LeatherLion 3 Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,237 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Are you sure? I could've sworn the Vercetti gang member that says "FUHGET ABOUT IT MARIO" was the most badass character. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 5,833 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I'm pretty sure it's Hilary King. Link to post Share on other sites
OneMore 1 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Indeed, Johnny Klebitz is the Ultimate badass in GTA. I also finally found out why you cant change his clothes, its because he's too badass to let others decide what he wears. Just wish they didn't ruin him in GTA V just to make trevor seem intimidating. Anyway, Trevor is a coward. He attacked Johnny while he was on meth and weak, he has to have 2 people doing things with him, his own mom makes him get Down on the Ground and SCREAM, he picks on people he knows won't say anything back, also, when choosing to kill trevor, he ran away from Franklin because he was a Real OG. Niko is a badass too but not As much as Johnny. Tommy and Claude are a close second, and Vic is pretty badass himself. But Johnny, it takes alot of balls to be as badass As him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LazlowsucksiloveslutS 371 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Niko can whip both Johnny and Luis, Johnny rarely fought alone, only time perhaps was when he saved Ashley. Niko could kill a warehouse full of Russian gangsters without any help or backup. In fact, Johnny admitted himself that he wouldn't want to get on Niko's bad side. commenting on the bodies left in Libertonian museum. Niko is superior to Johnny. However, I have to say that Johnny is the funniest guy to freeroam with. Link to post Share on other sites
universetwisters 34,237 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Johnny rarely fought alone, only time perhaps was when he saved Ashley. Niko could kill a warehouse full of Russian gangsters without any help or backup. what All the missions where Jim bugged me to use Clay & Terry for backup, I declined it and ended up passing with flying colors. And even then, isn't that the premise of the game? Teamwork and brotherhood? So let Johnny have fun with his buddies and all, meanwhile look at Niko over there, sitting in the corner looking at vintage garden gnomes on the computer. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Niobium 11,632 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Niko can whip both Johnny and Luis, Johnny rarely fought alone, only time perhaps was when he saved Ashley. Niko could kill a warehouse full of Russian gangsters without any help or backup. In fact, Johnny admitted himself that he wouldn't want to get on Niko's bad side. commenting on the bodies left in Libertonian museum. Niko is superior to Johnny. However, I have to say that Johnny is the funniest guy to freeroam with. He punched a fed and rescued Elizabeta's cousin while killing dozens of pigs, alone. He killed dozens of secret service and a politician, alone. Is he still not hardcore like Niko? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
KarimNTerr 2,753 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) This screen expresses all the badassness Johnny Klebitz had: He was such an explosive protagonist, that's for sure! Edited July 8, 2014 by toxluv 7 Link to post Share on other sites
UAMCx Reap3rGod 3 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Johnny was indeed the most badass of them all. He went through way more than all of them, including losing the brotherhood of some of the Lost. He went on a killing spree worrying about others that he loved while handling his and the clubs buisiness as well, all while he was on a BIKE. Everyone of his enemies had countless times to kill him, but didn't. Instead they got backhanded and shot up by a 200 pound biker that gave no f*cks. When you see a convoy of large men in jackets reading LOST MC LIBERTY and Johnny in the front, you cannot deny, that alone without the killing of others is pretty badass. But what makes it more badass is when you add the recklessness of the MC. That sir, with Johnny being the new crowned prez after breaking in a heavily guarded prison with a team of 4 Lost members and he alone kills Billy, and keeps the club in order, that is a true badass. Nuff said. Niko was a badass too, but remember he was after 1 thing and barely protected 1 guy named roman. In the end Johnny rules all. f*ck trevor's half minded no good methhead snake ass. He never knew the true meaning of brotherhood all throughout the game. Johnny did. Johnny Klebitz FTW 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy 3,531 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 More badass-ness 1 Link to post Share on other sites
OneMore 1 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Johnny is stoic and determined, one of the things that makes him extremly badass. Trevor on the other hand, loses his cool over EVERY little thing possible. I mean pissing Johnny off is defenetly not a good idea but at least he was more confident. Link to post Share on other sites
DaBOSS54320 62 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I think I will give the title of most badass to Johnny too. Trevor isn't so much a badass as much as he is a psychopath. I understand why you are upset that Rockstar did that to Johnny but it seemed like an interesting way to introduce Trevor's personality as a psycho. Still it does suck for you bigger Johnny fans... Niko isn't the biggest badass, nor a psycho. I do love his attitude though, he can be sarcastic and funny in the most dangerous situations. Niko is probably my favorite GTA character. Link to post Share on other sites
Shadowfennekin 17,818 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I used to think so.... before R* made him get hooked on meth and get back with Ashley. Trevor took his place. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoleInTheSky 1,057 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Despite the avatar, I agree. How he went from TLAD to V was frustrating, but it's okay, I play TLAD more than V anyway. Edited September 5, 2014 by HoleInTheSky 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Nights744 246 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I've never found Niko to be actually badass at all, he was a revenge fueled maniac, yet he seemed to feel guilty and bad about his killings and Rockstar tried to put all those philosophy to his behaviour which didn't seem right in my opinion. And Niko had that very calm and kinda friendly voice with funny accent and looks of a hobo which contradicted his empty shell, devoid of feelings characteristics. Yeah. Niko wasn't a badass. On topic: > 3 Link to post Share on other sites
J Cobra 452 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) No it's Trevor, Tommy, or Niko. Johnny is nothing but a biker bitch. Edited February 16, 2015 by J Cobra 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Algonquin Assassin 50,122 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Johnny is nothing but a biker bitch. I can't be held accountable if Drunk or Bum see this post. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
