Anders Breivik wants to play "better video games" in prison...

[Frank Brown]

 

Vlynor- financial cost isn't of interest to me in discussions on justice. Rehabilitation is more expensive that forced labour but the latter doesn't work as a tool for reintegrating people back into society so as a tool of justice it's a bit sh*t. The death penalty is exactly the same- it could be free for all I care, that doesn't make it any less prone to abuse, final, subject to devastating results in miscarriages of justice or socially damaging.

 

I'm only talking about this case though. Breivik admitted that he killed those people. If they both cost nothing but still had the same success rates, you would pick rehab. over execution?

[sivispacem]

No, because I object to the death penalty on moral grounds as well at technical.

[Mr. House]

Not that that matters anyway. 'If' is a pretty useless word. It's about as meaningful as 'If I hadn't f*cked that stripper in Vegas I wouldn't have to pay this God damn alimony.'

[Frank Brown]

Not that that matters anyway. 'If' is a pretty useless word. It's about as meaningful as 'If I hadn't f*cked that stripper in Vegas I wouldn't have to pay this God damn alimony.'

 

'If' we're going to determine which things we can discuss because of how much it matters, you can shut down most of the threads on this forum.

[Mr. House]

 

 

The problem with the "too lenient" argument is that, in empirical terms, it isn't actually true. You can say what you like about this but there's little disagreeing with the facts. The Scandinavian justice system produces amongst the highest rehabilitation rates and lowest re-offending rates in the world. Any resistance to it as a general policy is purely emotional and subjective and I'm sorry but anyone who puts their personal emotional hang-ups on a subject above what's actually better for wider society is a bit silly in my view.

 

I don't have a problem with rehabilitation as a general idea, but do you personally think that Breivik can be rehabilitated? And would you feel comfortable living next to the man who methodically killed 77 innocent people? Rehabilitation could be fine for the wife that kills her cheating husband in the heat of the moment, but not for a fanatic terrorist who buys all of the bullsh*t he spews.

 

He can't be rehabilitated when he is not even sick. This is what he lives for, and you guys would know that if you knew his story. He don't regret slaughtering those 77 people, he think it was a good start. He is not sick, but just a smart person who happens to be a stone cold killer, and who should never ever be out in the society, because you'll never know what he is capable of. He is so smart that I bet he can manipulate the psychiatrists into believing he is rehabilitated.

 

You're severely overestimating intelligence. Frankly it doesn't require genius level intelligence to do what this man did. Anyway clearly this man is 'sick' and has shown a complete lack of cohesion with reality. You can make knee jerk 'I care about the dead people therefore he must die' responses all you like, but it won't change anything, nor will killing him, except for some biblical sense of retribution.

 

If you want real justice for the dead, surely forcing this man to literally work for society for no personal gain does much more than murking him.

 

 

Not that that matters anyway. 'If' is a pretty useless word. It's about as meaningful as 'If I hadn't f*cked that stripper in Vegas I wouldn't have to pay this God damn alimony.'

 

'If' we're going to determine which things we can discuss because of how much it matters, you can shut down most of the threads on this forum.

 

There's a difference between theorising possible outcomes and making stipulations to prove points for cases that don't exist anyway.

[Secura]

Despite all the sh*t Breivik is getting, he's clearly a very high-functioning sociopath who needs help. Yes what he did was deplorable, I'm not trying to excuse that and he should be held accountable for his actions, but he's getting exactly what he wants when news like this goes global, it means people are still listening to him and talking about him, they should've just given him his PS3 and PC and been done with it.

 

What matters here is his psychological state, we need to figure out how to help him so that we may help others in his mental state before that act in a similar way to him. Understanding an issue is the first step towards solving it, and although the man's quite clearly deranged, that doesn't change the fact that unless we actually do start trying to help him and understand what he's going through, this sh*t isn't going to stop happening.

 

This little tidbit about him wanting a new videogame console does nothing for anyone, it just feeds his ego and turns him into an even larger prick.

Edited February 20, 2014 by Secura

[lol232]

I think they should lock the worst prisoners in rooms like this with no light.

I would sing this song there and probably last there for 6 hours.

 

OT: Lol the guy that killed 77 people has more rights than a guy who killed 1 person, I mean he can f*cking play PlayStation 2 there, I wouldn't even f*cking complain.

[Black & White]

 

 

I'm not necessarily bothered if you ignore me because I color the text in black. A little pathetic, is it not? If you cannot read the text in black, then you should change the brightness of your laptop. As for me, I can see any color perfectly on these forums.

 

 

I disagree. I believe in punishment. People that have absolutely not committed a sin or done anything wrong, and their lives are cut short because of Anders. Well, you must be forgetting those people. From my recollection - Video games are rewards and treats. As I've said before, the government will eventually buy into him and allow him to play violent video games. He is basically blackmailing the government. I don't see this helping him and his state of mind.

 

 

But what is the point of punishment? It's revenge, you're basically saying that Anders need to be punished for revenge, an eye for an eye right, maybe they should just start killing Anders family right?.

Punishment is to remove people from society and so they learn, and also as a deterrent, that by itself doesn't seem to work however, and what's the difference between 21 years vs 60 years, 60 years is going to deter someone anymore than 21 years, and it probably won't help them learn at all, rehabilitation is key, and if giving someone something they enjoy in prison in the right amounts is part of that, then i'm all for it.

 

Also are you saying violent video-games make you violent?

 

Exactly. It is revenge. Anders will either be released or receive punishment. That's the two options. And no, they shouldn't kill Anders family. That is irrelevant to the crime. I don't believe in hurting people that don't deserve it. Anders does, his family doesn't. His father even said to the media that Anders should of committed suicide rather than killing all of those people. I strongly agree with him. His father also mentioned that Anders showed a capable state of mind, not this crazy-like behavior once the cameras are turned on and the media are involved.

 

Well, I'll admit violent video games have slightly made my thoughts more disturbing. That's natural. Once you play GTA IV for several years, it will happen. On saying that - I don't have intentions to go out into the public and kill people. I actually know the difference between reality and a video game. If Anders hasn't played violent video games during his youth, then think of the outcome once he has. How will it help him in any circumstance? Sure, I'm up for rehabilitation but atleast someone has to pay the price. I believe people like Anders don't change. The fact that you think he should enjoy himself after killing people is pretty disrespectful to the people that were innocently slaughtered.

 

You would think someone that shot and bombed people would be dealt with. But, no. Instead he receives treats for his actions.

[BuyMeTheMoon]

You're severely overestimating intelligence. Frankly it doesn't require genius level intelligence to do what this man did. Anyway clearly this man is 'sick' and has shown a complete lack of cohesion with reality. You can make knee jerk 'I care about the dead people therefore he must die' responses all you like, but it won't change anything, nor will killing him, except for some biblical sense of retribution.

 

If you want real justice for the dead, surely forcing this man to literally work for society for no personal gain does much more than murking him.

No, he is a smart person with a high IQ, and yeah very smart compared to most other killers. And no he isn't sick, he has been declared not psychotic at all by psychiatrists two times. He is just an ice cold man, with a different perspective on what is right and what is wrong. He did what he did because he meant that it would open our eyes, he said himself that he didn't enjoy killing all those people but did it because it was necessary(for those who don't know the whole story: he hates muslims and want to keep them out of Norway. Because of that- he killed politicians who worked for muslims benefits because he thought that would be more effective than going right after the muslims). He don't regret it, and he was prepared to be caught by the police, he basically sat down and waited for them at the island after the shooting.

I didn't say I wanted him dead(I wouldn't care if he died though), but I think that he deserves to live a long, sh*tty and boring life in prison, without a ps3, and with no chance in getting out in the society ever again(which I believe he won't).

 

Why are people so hung up on him being sick and not responsible for his acts? It is proven that he is not sick, there is nothing to discuss. Just because he does something we think is sick, doesn't mean that he is.

Edited February 21, 2014 by BuyMeTheMoon

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

 

 

I'm not necessarily bothered if you ignore me because I color the text in black. A little pathetic, is it not? If you cannot read the text in black, then you should change the brightness of your laptop. As for me, I can see any color perfectly on these forums.

 

 

I disagree. I believe in punishment. People that have absolutely not committed a sin or done anything wrong, and their lives are cut short because of Anders. Well, you must be forgetting those people. From my recollection - Video games are rewards and treats. As I've said before, the government will eventually buy into him and allow him to play violent video games. He is basically blackmailing the government. I don't see this helping him and his state of mind.

 

 

But what is the point of punishment? It's revenge, you're basically saying that Anders need to be punished for revenge, an eye for an eye right, maybe they should just start killing Anders family right?.

Punishment is to remove people from society and so they learn, and also as a deterrent, that by itself doesn't seem to work however, and what's the difference between 21 years vs 60 years, 60 years is going to deter someone anymore than 21 years, and it probably won't help them learn at all, rehabilitation is key, and if giving someone something they enjoy in prison in the right amounts is part of that, then i'm all for it.

 

Also are you saying violent video-games make you violent?

 

Exactly. It is revenge. Anders will either be released or receive punishment. That's the two options. And no, they shouldn't kill Anders family. That is irrelevant to the crime. I don't believe in hurting people that don't deserve it. Anders does, his family doesn't. His father even said to the media that Anders should of committed suicide rather than killing all of those people. I strongly agree with him. His father also mentioned that Anders showed a capable state of mind, not this crazy-like behavior once the cameras are turned on and the media are involved.

 

Well, I'll admit violent video games have slightly made my thoughts more disturbing. That's natural. Once you play GTA IV for several years, it will happen. On saying that - I don't have intentions to go out into the public and kill people. I actually know the difference between reality and a video game. If Anders hasn't played violent video games during his youth, then think of the outcome once he has. How will it help him in any circumstance? Sure, I'm up for rehabilitation but atleast someone has to pay the price. I believe people like Anders don't change. The fact that you think he should enjoy himself after killing people is pretty disrespectful to the people that were innocently slaughtered.

 

You would think someone that shot and bombed people would be dealt with. But, no. Instead he receives treats for his actions.

 

 

Revenge is personal and not beneficial to anyone, you lost your credibility there.

 

Also there is a very large lack of evidence that can say for certain that videogames make you violent, that's bullsh*t, find some proof.

 

 

 

You're severely overestimating intelligence. Frankly it doesn't require genius level intelligence to do what this man did. Anyway clearly this man is 'sick' and has shown a complete lack of cohesion with reality. You can make knee jerk 'I care about the dead people therefore he must die' responses all you like, but it won't change anything, nor will killing him, except for some biblical sense of retribution.

 

If you want real justice for the dead, surely forcing this man to literally work for society for no personal gain does much more than murking him.

No, he is a smart person with a high IQ, and yeah very smart compared to most other killers. And no he isn't sick, he has been declared not psychotic at all by psychiatrists two times. He is just an ice cold man, with a different perspective on what is right and what is wrong. He did what he did because he meant that it would open our eyes, he said himself that he didn't enjoy killing all those people but did it because it was necessary(for those who don't know the whole story: he hates muslims and want to keep them out of Norway. Because of that- he killed politicians who worked for muslims benefits because he thought that would be more effective than going right after the muslims). He don't regret it, and he was prepared to be caught by the police, he basically sat down and waited for them at the island after the shooting.

I didn't say I wanted him dead(I wouldn't care if he died though), but I think that he deserves to live a long, sh*tty and boring life in prison, without a ps3, and with no chance in getting out in the society ever again(which I believe he won't).

 

Why are people so hung up on him being sick and not responsible for his acts? It is proven that he is not sick, there is nothing to discuss. Just because he does something we think is sick, doesn't mean that he is.

 

Would a reasonable sane person massacre 77 people? No.

Therefore he must have something wrong with him in my opinion.

 

Also who cares if he laps it up, he won't be harming anyone else, it makes no difference to anyone if he plays PS2, or stares at a wall.

[BuyMeTheMoon]

 

No, he is a smart person with a high IQ, and yeah very smart compared to most other killers. And no he isn't sick, he has been declared not psychotic at all by psychiatrists two times. He is just an ice cold man, with a different perspective on what is right and what is wrong. He did what he did because he meant that it would open our eyes, he said himself that he didn't enjoy killing all those people but did it because it was necessary(for those who don't know the whole story: he hates muslims and want to keep them out of Norway. Because of that- he killed politicians who worked for muslims benefits because he thought that would be more effective than going right after the muslims). He don't regret it, and he was prepared to be caught by the police, he basically sat down and waited for them at the island after the shooting.

I didn't say I wanted him dead(I wouldn't care if he died though), but I think that he deserves to live a long, sh*tty and boring life in prison, without a ps3, and with no chance in getting out in the society ever again(which I believe he won't).

 

Why are people so hung up on him being sick and not responsible for his acts? It is proven that he is not sick, there is nothing to discuss. Just because he does something we think is sick, doesn't mean that he is.

 

Would a reasonable sane person massacre 77 people? No.

Therefore he must have something wrong with him in my opinion.

 

Also who cares if he laps it up, he won't be harming anyone else, it makes no difference to anyone if he plays PS2, or stares at a wall.

 

Nope, you are wrong.. Several reports out there that confirms that he is not sick. Why is it so difficult to believe that a person can be evil?

 

In most cases a sane person wouldn't do such a thing, but this man is an exception

Edited February 21, 2014 by BuyMeTheMoon

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

 

No, he is a smart person with a high IQ, and yeah very smart compared to most other killers. And no he isn't sick, he has been declared not psychotic at all by psychiatrists two times. He is just an ice cold man, with a different perspective on what is right and what is wrong. He did what he did because he meant that it would open our eyes, he said himself that he didn't enjoy killing all those people but did it because it was necessary(for those who don't know the whole story: he hates muslims and want to keep them out of Norway. Because of that- he killed politicians who worked for muslims benefits because he thought that would be more effective than going right after the muslims). He don't regret it, and he was prepared to be caught by the police, he basically sat down and waited for them at the island after the shooting.

I didn't say I wanted him dead(I wouldn't care if he died though), but I think that he deserves to live a long, sh*tty and boring life in prison, without a ps3, and with no chance in getting out in the society ever again(which I believe he won't).

 

Why are people so hung up on him being sick and not responsible for his acts? It is proven that he is not sick, there is nothing to discuss. Just because he does something we think is sick, doesn't mean that he is.

 

Would a reasonable sane person massacre 77 people? No.

Therefore he must have something wrong with him in my opinion.

 

Also who cares if he laps it up, he won't be harming anyone else, it makes no difference to anyone if he plays PS2, or stares at a wall.

 

Nope, you are wrong.. Several reports out there that confirms that he is not sick. Why is it so difficult to believe that a person can be evil?

 

In most cases a sane person wouldn't do such a thing, but this man is an exception

 

In our society it is wrong to be evil, therefore he needs to have his morals adjusted. Sure Psychologists may declare he is sane, but there is still something wrong with him in my opinion. There has to be.

[BuyMeTheMoon]

In our society it is wrong to be evil, therefore he needs to have his morals adjusted. Sure Psychologists may declare he is sane, but there is still something wrong with him in my opinion. There has to be.

Yes, you're right. There is something wrong with this guy, just like there is something wrong with a lot of people, but without them being sick.

[sivispacem]

It's not a question of whether he is/was sane, but sane enough to be held criminally accountable for his actions. That'd how the insanity defence works. It's fairly clear that Breivik is a high functioning sociopath and he is, technically speaking, mentally ill- he was diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder. His belief that life was expendable on an industrial scale if it enabled him to present his political message to a wider audience is basically the dictionary definition of an antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy). Compare this with many God-complex and morally driven serial killers.

 

Was he responsible for his own actions? Probably. But to claim he wasn't mentally ill purely because his mental illness wasn't deemed to be a direct and immediate deciding factor in his actions but merely a contributing one is a bit disingenuous.

[Fireman]

More notable is that he could play Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon on his Playstation 2 system, which is, as we all know, the best console-game ever released (after Tony Hawk's pro Skater 2, WHICH HE CAN ALSO PLAY). Apart from that, the best GTA, San Andreas, is also for the Playstation 2 (though he's probably not allowed to play that).

 

He clearly needs to be taught what good games are, instead of complaining that he can't play Call of Duty. He's such a f*cking graphics fan-boy.

[Doc Rikowski]

I would lend him for a season to some Brazilian prison. You know the ones where from time to time the inmates take over and start severing the heads of other inmates they dislike.

[Black & White]

 

 

 

 

I'm not necessarily bothered if you ignore me because I color the text in black. A little pathetic, is it not? If you cannot read the text in black, then you should change the brightness of your laptop. As for me, I can see any color perfectly on these forums.

 

 

I disagree. I believe in punishment. People that have absolutely not committed a sin or done anything wrong, and their lives are cut short because of Anders. Well, you must be forgetting those people. From my recollection - Video games are rewards and treats. As I've said before, the government will eventually buy into him and allow him to play violent video games. He is basically blackmailing the government. I don't see this helping him and his state of mind.

 

 

But what is the point of punishment? It's revenge, you're basically saying that Anders need to be punished for revenge, an eye for an eye right, maybe they should just start killing Anders family right?.

Punishment is to remove people from society and so they learn, and also as a deterrent, that by itself doesn't seem to work however, and what's the difference between 21 years vs 60 years, 60 years is going to deter someone anymore than 21 years, and it probably won't help them learn at all, rehabilitation is key, and if giving someone something they enjoy in prison in the right amounts is part of that, then i'm all for it.

 

Also are you saying violent video-games make you violent?

 

Exactly. It is revenge. Anders will either be released or receive punishment. That's the two options. And no, they shouldn't kill Anders family. That is irrelevant to the crime. I don't believe in hurting people that don't deserve it. Anders does, his family doesn't. His father even said to the media that Anders should of committed suicide rather than killing all of those people. I strongly agree with him. His father also mentioned that Anders showed a capable state of mind, not this crazy-like behavior once the cameras are turned on and the media are involved.

 

Well, I'll admit violent video games have slightly made my thoughts more disturbing. That's natural. Once you play GTA IV for several years, it will happen. On saying that - I don't have intentions to go out into the public and kill people. I actually know the difference between reality and a video game. If Anders hasn't played violent video games during his youth, then think of the outcome once he has. How will it help him in any circumstance? Sure, I'm up for rehabilitation but atleast someone has to pay the price. I believe people like Anders don't change. The fact that you think he should enjoy himself after killing people is pretty disrespectful to the people that were innocently slaughtered.

 

You would think someone that shot and bombed people would be dealt with. But, no. Instead he receives treats for his actions.

 

 

Revenge is personal and not beneficial to anyone, you lost your credibility there.

 

Also there is a very large lack of evidence that can say for certain that videogames make you violent, that's bullsh*t, find some proof.

 

Revenge for the public, the area that was destroyed, the families that have to deal with depression as a result of their loved ones that were killed. I don't think any normal human being thinks that he doesn't deserve punishment.

 

You want proof? In June 2008, six teenagers were arrested for a crime spree which included them mugging people, smashing vehicles with baseball bats, and attempting to hijack a BMW. When they were arrested, they said that they were inspired by Niko Bellic. In August 2008, an 18-year old hijacked a taxi and murdered the taxi driver. He said to the police that he was wondering what it was like to actually steal a taxi cab after doing it in the game. And in August 2013, an 8-year old shot and killed his 90-year old grandmother after playing GTA IV for a long period of time. Compare not playing violent video games for your entire life and then playing them. Once you play them, you will have disturbing thoughts. It happens. After a while, shooting people seems funny, cool and acceptable. Anders has killed people and allowing him to play a game completely FULL of murder isn't going to help him. You call that rehabilitation? Seems like a treat to me.

Edited February 21, 2014 by Black & White

[sivispacem]

If you make another wall of Fisher-Price sized black text in General Chat I swear to god I'm going to make every post of yours I see bright pink Comic Sans.

[Black & White]

If you make another wall of Fisher-Price sized black text in General Chat I swear to god I'm going to make every post of yours I see bright pink Comic Sans.

 

Be my guest.

 

I've only made the text larger so you can see it better.

Edited February 21, 2014 by sivispacem
PINK!

[Doc Rikowski]

Black on blue background ain't readable.

[Raavi]

@B & W Allow me to burst your bubble. I have played violent video games for round and about 15 years, not one time did I have the urge to beat up an old lady or throw a prostitute of a bridge in real life. You have to be suffering severe mental issues to be affected by games the likes of GTA.

Edited February 21, 2014 by Raavi

[Tyler]

Compare not playing violent video games for your entire life and then playing them. Once you play them, you will have disturbing thoughts. It happens. After a while, shooting people seems funny, cool and acceptable.

 

As compared to seeing violent movies or reading violent books listening to violent music or simply existing in this world, where violence is everywhere, how does violent video games disturb the mind of a youth any more than anything else? At what point does the world a person inhabits stop being liable for the actions that person does? Should all teenagers be pressed to avoid all violent art and imagery in the world? I'm asking you these questions sincerely, I look forward to a response that isn't in black text.

[Finn 7 five 11]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not necessarily bothered if you ignore me because I color the text in black. A little pathetic, is it not? If you cannot read the text in black, then you should change the brightness of your laptop. As for me, I can see any color perfectly on these forums.

 

 

I disagree. I believe in punishment. People that have absolutely not committed a sin or done anything wrong, and their lives are cut short because of Anders. Well, you must be forgetting those people. From my recollection - Video games are rewards and treats. As I've said before, the government will eventually buy into him and allow him to play violent video games. He is basically blackmailing the government. I don't see this helping him and his state of mind.

 

 

But what is the point of punishment? It's revenge, you're basically saying that Anders need to be punished for revenge, an eye for an eye right, maybe they should just start killing Anders family right?.

Punishment is to remove people from society and so they learn, and also as a deterrent, that by itself doesn't seem to work however, and what's the difference between 21 years vs 60 years, 60 years is going to deter someone anymore than 21 years, and it probably won't help them learn at all, rehabilitation is key, and if giving someone something they enjoy in prison in the right amounts is part of that, then i'm all for it.

 

Also are you saying violent video-games make you violent?

 

Exactly. It is revenge. Anders will either be released or receive punishment. That's the two options. And no, they shouldn't kill Anders family. That is irrelevant to the crime. I don't believe in hurting people that don't deserve it. Anders does, his family doesn't. His father even said to the media that Anders should of committed suicide rather than killing all of those people. I strongly agree with him. His father also mentioned that Anders showed a capable state of mind, not this crazy-like behavior once the cameras are turned on and the media are involved.

 

Well, I'll admit violent video games have slightly made my thoughts more disturbing. That's natural. Once you play GTA IV for several years, it will happen. On saying that - I don't have intentions to go out into the public and kill people. I actually know the difference between reality and a video game. If Anders hasn't played violent video games during his youth, then think of the outcome once he has. How will it help him in any circumstance? Sure, I'm up for rehabilitation but atleast someone has to pay the price. I believe people like Anders don't change. The fact that you think he should enjoy himself after killing people is pretty disrespectful to the people that were innocently slaughtered.

 

You would think someone that shot and bombed people would be dealt with. But, no. Instead he receives treats for his actions.

 

 

Revenge is personal and not beneficial to anyone, you lost your credibility there.

 

Also there is a very large lack of evidence that can say for certain that videogames make you violent, that's bullsh*t, find some proof.

 

Revenge for the public, the area that was destroyed, the families that have to deal with depression as a result of their loved ones that were killed. I don't think any normal human being thinks that he doesn't deserve punishment.

 

You want proof? In June 2008, six teenagers were arrested for a crime spree which included them mugging people, smashing vehicles with baseball bats, and attempting to hijack a BMW. When they were arrested, they said that they were inspired by Niko Bellic. In August 2008, an 18-year old hijacked a taxi and murdered the taxi driver. He said to the police that he was wondering what it was like to actually steal a taxi cab after doing it in the game. And in August 2013, an 8-year old shot and killed his 90-year old grandmother after playing GTA IV for a long period of time. Compare not playing violent video games for your entire life and then playing them. Once you play them, you will have disturbing thoughts. It happens. After a while, shooting people seems funny, cool and acceptable. Anders has killed people and allowing him to play a game completely FULL of murder isn't going to help him. You call that rehabilitation? Seems like a treat to me.

 

Done it for you Sivis.

 

People have done the same thing from books, it doesn't mean books are the reason for it.

 

 

[sivispacem]

Where's my Comic Sans?

[universetwisters]

@B & W Allow me to burst your bubble. I have played violent video games for round and about 15 years, not one time did I have the urge to beat up an old lady or throw a prostitute of a bridge in real life. You have to be suffering severe mental issues to be affected by games the likes of GTA.

For the most part, it should depend on the ability for the player to tell between reality and fiction, right?

 

If I couldn't tell the difference, I would either be in jail or still mumbling around, committing petty crimes. Why don't we identify these people at a young age and give them some productive games, such as how to be a tax accountant, or warehouse management? It would make sense, seeing as they can't tell fiction from reality. Hell, may as well make the fiction they see a productive fiction.

[Display_0]

Rayman revolution is pretty good.

 

Just kill him or something.

[Frank Brown]

@B & W Allow me to burst your bubble. I have played violent video games for round and about 15 years, not one time did I have the urge to beat up an old lady or throw a prostitute of a bridge in real life. You have to be suffering severe mental issues to be affected by games the likes of GTA.

 

Uh. What?

 

No. You're suffering mental issues. Everyone knows if you play violent video games you commit violent crimes. Throwing prostitutes off of bridges becomes second nature.

Edited February 22, 2014 by Vlynor

[CatDog96]

It would be pretty cool if they got bad guys and put them on an Island and they had to kill each other for a tv show, just like those movies (battle royale, the condemned, hunger games and many more) or had some gladiator arena and the had to battle 1v1.

[ShadowDog94]

When did this topic turn into a discussion about whether or not playing violent video games makes you violent?

[Black & White]

When did this topic turn into a discussion about whether or not playing violent video games makes you violent?

 

Right after Finn asked if I became more violent after playing violent video games.

 

@ Ravi - Finn wanted proof about people that had committed crimes after playing video games. I never stated that YOU personally have committed a disturbing crime. All people are different. I'm saying that your thoughts are slightly more extreme than someone that hasn't been involved in a fight, or hasn't swore before. Compare yourself to an 8-year old choir boy that is constantly nourished by his mother. You see my point..

 

@ Tyler - Yes, but we aren't discussing violent movies or violent music. We're discussing violent video games. As some people in the past have been affected by violent video games, then there's all the proof. My point is - Seeing as Anders has murdered people, I disbelieve that he should be experiencing more violence, even in video games. As he has been considered insane, well, insane people get ideas from all sorts of things. If Finn is in favor of him being rehabilitated, reminding Anders of crime isn't going to help him and change him. Especially games like GTA. I admit that I love GTA. It is a great game. But for someone like Anders, he shouldn't play it. With Niko Bellic - he is a hitman and his objective is to simply hunt down people. I can imagine Anders laughing whilst killing or blowing pedestrians up. Who knows? He might be affected by the game and start to plan something bigger than his previous crime. And for you, just for you, I'll change the text pink so you are capable of reading it. And how you can't read black text, especially large black text, I'm confused about that. I can see it perfectly.