according to take two cash cards are key to better severs.

[ells144]

I think Rockstar should rent servers. These serves would give you such options as being able to police off, allowing in game cheat codes, weather options, etc. But if you enter a server with cheat codes enabled, your progress doesn't save. It's a simple solution that could net them more then an enough to get adequate servers and have enough to expand online with more of these free simple DLC packs and new features. Battlefield 3 has a successful model of this.

they don't currently own there own servers, this means they are unable to rent them out as they are not theirs.

[saintsrow]

ok so take two said in a share holders event that only if the revenue for GTA online was to see a growth in the upcoming months, they will invest in outsourcing more servers for GTA online. http://ir.take2games.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=86428&p=quarterlyEarnings

 

as of now the only way they will be able t gain revenue for GTA online s through people buying cash cards as all the other online DLC so far has been free and most of the future updates look to be free.

 

what do you think?

I think that by July, the TTWO bean counters will force Rockstar to shut down this money-losing turkey.

 

Why in the hell would new generations of GTAV players buy cash cards just so they can get shot up by assholes every night? That's all that GTA0 is.

Edited February 12, 2014 by saintsrow

[rob602pa]

 

They made a billion in like the first week. That's bs. .

 

This statement is the perfect means to inform the entirety of the forums that you have no clue how the real world works.

 

I probably wouldnt have been this direct but had a similar thought.

 

Even in basic terms. If you sell a product and make money, then offer a free add-on that is an after the fact cost (the game already succeeded and made profit) you would not then take you profit, large or small, and just apply it to the free add-on hoping someone will buy cash cards.

 

I don't think cash cards are the answer but you never know. Free roam is where people burn most money and many free roam players don't seem to want to earn through missions. In reality it will take dlc and cc sales to supplement.

 

I just heard someone on the mic asking for money and another guy chimed in and said those money glitches are gone, "just buy a cash card".

Edited February 12, 2014 by rob602pa

[SuperJude™]

Rockstar fansboys, you are as annoying as every other fanboy in the world which is to say HEINOUSLY ANNOYING.

 

The thread is about Take Two Interactive, not Rockstar games.

 

Rockstar made an amazing game. Take Two makes decisions based on the bottom line that are often at odds with what their clients: US.

[Lucius Aelius]

I said a long time ago that without cash cards this game would die, I can't say I'm surprised to hear R* echoing what I said (they were thinking it before me of course). If you like the game and want it to continue just buy a cash card and think of it as supporting the game, I certainly wouldn't have bought any of the cash cards I have without that incentive, the cash is just a nice/helpful bonus. A lot of people have a problem with cash cards on principle, but as long as they're not poorly implemented I don't think they're a bad thing at all, the people who can't pay don't have to and the people who can pay what they can.

 

All this complaining about R* making a billion dollars is nonsense, there were some very expensive bills to pay with that money for various entities involved in it's production and distribution. Yes they made a lot of money and yes GTA V was/is a big hit, but that's mostly for the single player, now that Online is going it's a separate game in their eyes and if it can't make a profit they won't invest in it. If no one's willing to pay them for the work they do they might as well just be dumping all those millions they just earned down the toilet.

 

This is a company and companies that don't make money go out of business, R*/Take Two doesn't want to go out of business so it follows sane business practices, it's really not that complicated. If you don't like it then you have a fundamental problem with capitalism (in which case I'm right with you on that at least), but it is what it is and if you want the game to continue you'll buy as many cash cards as you feel like you can afford/want to give. I recently bought a couple of extras for games and used the extra money on cash cards in GTA, all told since launch I've probably spent $50, which is about as much as I've spent on DLC for other individual games that have paid DLC, CoD season pass for example.

 

Also I don't think R* nerfed the payouts for missions and whatnot because of cash cards, I think they did because it was unbalanced, it really was too easy to level up and make money and they hadn't intended that so they brought the game back in line with their intentions. The main problem is heists not being out because they're supposed to be the big money maker, but that's another issue altogether (it's good that they aren't releasing them until they're ready but it's arguable they should have delayed Online's release altogether until everything was ready, but that's all a moot point now), and once they are out I think the game will mostly be balanced.

 

I do agree that some of those low paying missions are ridiculously low paying, I don't think any mission should ever make less than $3,000, and considering some of the work involved in these missions what they pay simply isn't proportional given how easy some of the higher paying missions are.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Lucius Aelius

[The Angel King]

Gonna say this again. We are all lucky to have a free online game time. Some of you self entitled aholes don't have a clue what it costs to run this stuff and constantly upkeep things. They also are busy dealing with people that constantly try to break the game and ruin it for others or in ways they didn't intend.

 

If someone wants to support R* by getting cards....who are you to judge? You are getting a free ride. Oh you paid for the game? Take your @ss back to single player mode. That is what you paid for.

 

Also: Those who are wondering why they need more servers with less people playing that there use to be..........all I can say to you is get a clue. More servers = Less server load on existing servers.

 

I respect most of your opinions. I honestly do. However if you are gonna come in here insulting people and asking dumb questions trying to act like you know something that you actually know nothing about......I am gonna tell you. Idiots everywhere.....

 

P.S. I think I am going to go buy a cash card and post it by pretending to actually have a legit topic, just to listen to you squeakers......

[GoodGreen]

Make a mansion pack I will pay real $$$ for it.... Make a car creator instead of these dumb mission and race creators, I'll pay for it... Cards are just a easy way to earn without giving us what we want... The FREE DLC is FREE because we didn't request it... Open up the line for request and then charge us, I will happily pay, but most this free stuff is a bonus but R* can do a better job and listen to what the players of their product want... sh*t I'll pay $14.99 if you let me paint my rims/wheels chrome!...!

[Jaytee83]

Amazing. Did most of you children listen to the share holders meeting before posting? They did not say that you would have to buy cash cards for them to improve servers. They talked about the need for out sourcing servers and customer services during peak periods. Otherwise they would have empty servers and unrequired staff when the popularity of a game dies out. THATS JUST SMART FECKING BUSINESS!

 

What they did say was that cash cards have been a very successful cash stream, they didn't link them to servers!

 

I can't be bothered to go on but the guys at CVG did a good piece of coverage on the subject. I would suggest looking it up on you tube.

[Dave Rizza]

 

Never gonna buy those overpriced cash cards no matter what......

agreed. it was also said, they predict march to be a high taking. which leaves people to believe that there is going to be a paid DLC update for something but take two would not spill the beans. " they side tracked the comment and went on to saying it would come from GTA, WWE 2k14 and their other games. but for them to have a big taking there other games are not as big what they where trying to get across. this leaves people to believe, it will be some form of story mode DLC for GTAV.

 

They already confirmed a big story mode DLC. Im assuming thats gonna be a paid DLC whereas the GTAO stuff is paid for via cash cards and thus keeping them free. Not hard to figure out.

 

P.s. Enjoying your ban? AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[tjor24]

In reality, video games are cheap. Other things in life cost much more money. But I still don't support micro transactions. I will however, pay for a real DLC. New maps, weapons, vehicles. That is legit IMO. I'm not paying to get ahead in a game though. That's called cheating lol

[Zwenkwiel]

I think they're stupid to rely on microtransactions to fund their servers

why rely on some BS commercial tactic aimed mainly at casuals when you have a pretty hardcore fanbase

I think the people who will still be playing this game a year from now and the people who buy cash cards are not the same people

 

IMO they should just create some substantial content worth paying for instead of this tiny free DLC crap that doesn't really add anything

but ofcourse there's more profit to be made by selling a bunch of randomly generated 1's and 0's than actually investing in DLC like tLaD and tBoGT

[hvcciookay]

I doubt they would release DLC not free as it would could cause mismatches as i'm sure they learned their lesson from the SE cars fiasco unless they put you directly in a lobby with players who didn't download dlc as well.

[Malibu454]

If those dipsh*ts would just put some more weapons up on the wall to buy as DLC (like the .50 cal handgun) I'm sure more people would be onboard for that. Not an expendable cash card that you would have to buy over and over after pissing all the gta bucks away.

My characters are very spendy..

[SIM-1]

Virtually every other game that has come out in the last 10 years has had online and supported it without the need for micro transactions. Yet you think R* needs you to buy cash cards for online to continue? Give me a break.

[hvcciookay]

You don't play alot of games then. ^

[Hanshot 420th]

after reading how much take two's stock was worth, I wish I had bought some...damn, off to work I guess

[Zwenkwiel]

hvcciookay, on 12 Feb 2014 - 1:49 PM, said:

I doubt they would release DLC not free as it would could cause mismatches as i'm sure they learned their lesson from the SE cars fiasco unless they put you directly in a lobby with players who didn't download dlc as well.

 

the only thing you need to do is make the DLC substantial enough

if you're going to release 12 DLC'S each containing a car a gun and a few missions than yes it's going to cause mismatches

but if it's just 1 or 2 big ones like they did with gta 4 it's not that big of a problem

it's basically more like a stand alone add-on or something

sure not every1 who owns the main game will get the DLC but they probably won't be playing the main game anymore either

[Pb76]

 

 

They made a billion in like the first week. That's bs. .

This statement is the perfect means to inform the entirety of the forums that you have no clue how the real world works.

What is this 'real world' of which you speak?

[Coin]

 

They made a billion in like the first week. That's bs. If they can't handle the uptick in players they should be firing their accountant. With that kind of money they made there shouldn't be any issues.

You have no idea how a company works, do you?

A billion bucks sounds like a lot...

Until you add in the cost of the game servers, taxes, maintenance, dev salaries, website traffic/bandwidth (specially the SC) and the lot.

 

I'd like to see you invest in developing/publishing a game like V, then getting yelled at by 13 year old tweens who think that earnings are complete income just because the only earnings they get (Dad's allowance) is purely for their entertainment.

 

 

People don't seem to realise that Take 2 publish their annual (and quarterly) income statement, and are available for public viewing.

 

Yeah, GTA V sold big and made a lot of money. But conversely Take 2 had operating expenses of around 1.2 billion off the top of my head.

 

Sometimes these people need a little perspective. I doubt it'll help them much though.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Insert-Coin-To-Continue

[SLUGFly]

f*ck these plastic asswads! Now that they've officially announced they're taking the McDonald's path of business, I can leave my fanship behind and wait for another company to do driving better.

[theGypsy]

Info...

 

"Take-Two Interactive shipped Grand Theft Auto V in its fiscal third quarter, ending December 31, 2013. That meant a big spike in revenues: $1.86 billion, compared to $415.8 million for the same quarter a year prior.

To-date, the company has shipped 32.5 million copies of the game -- which helped make it the top publisher of the year in the U.S., according to the NPD Group, Take-Two said in a statement."

 

"Profits were $578.4 million for the quarter, up from $70.9 million for the same quarter a year ago. The company is sitting on nearly $1 billion in cash and cash equivalents, with a war chest of $972.2 million.

On the back of these rosy results, the company has raised its revenue and earnings outlook for fiscal 2014, ending in March, with CEO Strauss Zelnick stating that the year is "poised to be a record year for Take-Two." The company is so confident that he has told investors that Take-Two expects to post earnings for "every year for the foreseeable future.""

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/209931/Grand_Theft_Auto_V_ships_325M_copies_todate_driving_TakeTwo_revenues.php

[SLUGFly]

Not earnings from me! At least, not after Bethesda figures out vehicles or Volition figures out vehicles and maps.

[Hoosierdaddy76]

They made a billion in like the first week. That's bs. If they can't handle the uptick in players they should be firing their accountant. With that kind of money they made there shouldn't be any issues.

 

This all day. No excuse for them launching online using trial servers after having made billions from selling the game. Not sure who is worse about investing the least in servers, Rockstar or EA.

[chop chop]

a real man pays for cash cards. I bought three more great white shark cards. I believe in better servers and I believe i can fly

[Alec Skorpio]

I'd rather pay for expansions and big time content than cash cards, tbqh

I mean, don't get me wrong, the Valentines Day Massacre pack looks cool and all...but the only thing I really like are the suits and those should have (and probably were) been in from day one.

[SLUGFly]

Yes... A phenomena that appeared only in the last decade in gaming is essential to gaming.

 

f*ck that! f*ck these shills! f*ck what they do to the art of games!

[Thr33X]

 

They made a billion in like the first week. That's bs. If they can't handle the uptick in players they should be firing their accountant. With that kind of money they made there shouldn't be any issues.

 

This all day. No excuse for them launching online using trial servers after having made billions from selling the game. Not sure who is worse about investing the least in servers, Rockstar or EA.

 

Yeah...because they really anticipated that they were gonna actually sell a billion dollars worth of games in 3 days, so they should have had all that ready right from the jump. f*ck outta here, man.

[SLUGFly]

They totally anticipated it! The whole game reeks of Rockstar's bedazzlement by coin.

[Alarming]

They took a company ending risk making GTAV, if it flopped, there would be no more Rockstar. So as for profits and wanting to make more money, I see no issues. As for cash reserves, how much will GTA6 cost to make? $300 million? $400 million?

How much have they had in loans to pay for GTAv production costs?

 

As anyone in business knows, a good business will have cash reserves when investing in new products/R&D.

 

How much have the flops cost Rockstar? Yea they make a lot of good games but what about the not so good games? They costs for that comes from somewhere.

[Ziggy_Ivanhoe]

 

I think Rockstar should rent servers. These serves would give you such options as being able to police off, allowing in game cheat codes, weather options, etc. But if you enter a server with cheat codes enabled, your progress doesn't save. It's a simple solution that could net them more then an enough to get adequate servers and have enough to expand online with more of these free simple DLC packs and new features. Battlefield 3 has a successful model of this.

they don't currently own there own servers, this means they are unable to rent them out as they are not theirs.

 

 

It might be an option with the PC version of the game.