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One thing that confuses me about the map


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I love the map, I think everything's is laid out perfectly and looks amazing but it's always confused me as to why there's a desert in the middle of the countryside. It just seems so random, and it's not even a massive one, just a small one. Is this even realistic?

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I guess the ideia is that the alamo sea is so salty that no significant ground life form can really live in the areas around it.

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No it's not realistic at all, yet what is in a GTA game? But I do think that the Alamo Sea should have been removed to make the desert area a bit bigger.

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Umm... let me guess, because it's supposed to be a game.

 

A game that has such perfect portrayal of real life city, where you can't enter restaurants, casino, malls, or play basketball but can enter banks, army base and also enjoy even f*cking yoga.

Damn, the desert part isn't that unusual or unreal AT ALL.

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Captain Arthur

Is this even realistic?

No, it's not, because it's a GTA game. This is the type of game where we see a middle-aged retired bank robber return back to the life of crime, steal nuclear weapons for corrupt FIB agents and wear this:

 

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^^^ This is a good post :^:

 

I think a little less ocean..combined with the enlarging of the desert area with the layout in the same position.

 

More trees in the countryside (wont happen due to limitations)

 

In fact GTA 5 is kind of perfect compared to other games that now just suck donkey balls.

 

No game I have matches up to GTA 5 in every aspect, a few minor annoyances here and there but that is life :)

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The map is a microcosm, a miniature world which features many representations of the real world. City, coast, desert, forest, mountain, lake, valley and plains are all represented for the purposes of gameplay.

 

It is neither realistic nor confusing, it's just a game.

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I agree, the desert should of been put on the edge of the map, maybe the desert should of been the most northern part of the map so mt chilliad is kind of in the middle.

 

 

BTW you must not think the map is layed out perfectly like you said otherwise this topic wouldn't exist :p

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backfromthestorm

Not really sure they needed the Alamo sea... How many missions used it? I can't think.... Just the triathlons? Big waste of space really.. could of had a big enterable shopping mall complex with cinemas, swimming pools etc.. all indoors. Just one idea off the top of my head. Better than water anyway.

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So i can predict the next complain thread would be,why did they make GTA 5 the fifth main game,why couldnt it be a spin-off? Lol since i join this forum,all these complain threads make me Laugh so Hard :)

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they wanted the envrionment to be more varied after the "concrete Jungle" that was IV. If there wasn't a desert theyre be a million threads on why theres no desert and how SA is the best gta (o wait we already have that lol).

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They're saving the large desert and dense forest for when they add Las Venturas and San Fierro to complete the state of San Andreas in GTA VI.

 

I hope.

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Detective Phelps

The map is fine if you ask me.

 

At least we got a desert in V. :p

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it's always confused me as to why there's a desert in the middle of the countryside. It just seems so random, and it's not even a massive one, just a small one. Is this even realistic?

 

Realistic? Had the desert been the size of the full map it would still not be realistic. The size of the mountains are not realistic, the city is not realistic. Its only a game, with a beautiful map. San Andreas was not realistic but very few whined about it.

 

 

I think the size of the desert is pretty nice, but sure, it could've been bigger. I'm personally a huge fan of the desert and Trevor's missions out the desert. I wish they would've had more of them.

 

Ideally, my perfect desert would've looked more like this:

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Is this even realistic?

No, it's not, because it's a GTA game. This is the type of game where we see a middle-aged retired bank robber return back to the life of crime, steal nuclear weapons for corrupt FIB agents and wear this:

 

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One man army yet it has three guys in it :facedesk: and I guess you never heard of the North Hollywood Shootout then. You couldn't of chosen a worse pic to make your point.

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Detective Phelps

 

Is this even realistic?

No, it's not, because it's a GTA game. This is the type of game where we see a middle-aged retired bank robber return back to the life of crime, steal nuclear weapons for corrupt FIB agents and wear this:

 

*Image*

 

You mean army of three. ;)

By the way, that vial in monkey business is not a nuke, but a nerve toxin.

 

I agree with the rest of the post though.

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Captain Arthur

I just chose that. I didn't care what was written. I didn't know that you guys would care, anyway.

 

The point I was trying to make was clear, and that's more than enough for me.

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Speaking of realistic, when was the last time you put gas in your GTA car?

 

At least the steak is realistic.

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So i can predict the next complain thread would be,why did they make GTA 5 the fifth main game,why couldnt it be a spin-off? Lol since i join this forum,all these complain threads make

me Laugh so Hard :)

No that thread wil.never exsist cause you're the only one that thinks that the gta games without a number is a spinoff, makes me laugh so hard :)
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ViceCityStalker

I came to this thread for the free beer and pussy.......oh about the desert you say......oh well................

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Not really sure they needed the Alamo sea... How many missions used it? I can't think.... Just the triathlons? Big waste of space really.. could of had a big enterable shopping mall complex with cinemas, swimming pools etc.. all indoors. Just one idea off the top of my head. Better than water anyway.

Really.. you think it's the same amount of work to make malls, cinemas and all those interiors with hundreds of objects inside as it is to make a body of water?

 

OP you need to take into account that all GTA maps are largely condensed. Real life Los Angeles is about 100 time (yes one hundred times) larger in surface than LS. They just wanted to have a diverse map with what they could make, and it's also based on real life location so it all looks very natural. The only thing that makes is unnatural is the scale, but it wouldn't be fun to have a 100 times bigger desert trust me.

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Why do people complain about the ocean?

Its a map barrier... either the game developers model a whole planet or have a force field that stops you from wandering too far... OR they create a plausible barrier that you can explore to some extent but doesn't really have too much system taxing details... perhaps a 1980s type map where land extended to its borders but characters scroll over to the other side when they go too far would be more realistic?

The ocean is a good balance.

 

Of all the stupid little quirks in the game the map is just fine as it is, I'd have liked there to be some dense forest, but there probably is some processing power issues for that no being so...we'll see if the PC version has better forests perhaps...

 

Is the desert realistic? No... but it is realistic as we are going to see using this game engine and on these consoles and within the timeframe allotted by the developers to produce a game of this nature based on when they started the project.

 

In one scene in the game Trevor tells Lamar that the trip they are going to take is a 4 hour drive, which in real life would not be an unrealistic timeframe to travel from LA to the Boonies... Anyone want to spend 4 real hours driving with Lamar listening to aimless pre-scripted smalltalk dialog, while Franklin snores in the backseat?

 

Stuff has to be condensed to some point, barriers placed and travel time made less boring... you have to have a balance between real and game... and for the most part they did a pretty good job (in regards to the OP and general comments here)... yeah, there are loads of other stuff that would have been awesome to have... like the ability to pick up objects and carry them, play basketball, working dock cranes, playable arcade games, more usable vending machines... whatever, maybe we will get them in GTA 6, but probably not...

Either way... its a fine line between driving an over-the-top supercar off a mountain and sitting in traffic for 5 hours, having to pee...

 

I'll take over-the-top... please.

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perhaps a 1980s type map where land extended to its borders but characters scroll over to the other side when they go too far would be more realistic?

 

Heh, that would be pretty weird but it might work. It really blew my mind in that old game 1nsane but it made perfect sense there because the game was all about driving off road and the maps were quite small. I think the sea is okay, GTA 3 was realistic with its blocked tunnels but that felt very frustrating.

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There's a desert around Salton Sea, near Los Angeles. I guess they were trying to be as realistic as they could with the game.

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The map in this game is horrible. RDR made this map look bad... how old is RDR? are there multi levels subways, skyscrapers, massive amounts of subway and tunnels intersecting with each other, etc. etc.. in rdr? Nope.... But there is a good amount of terrain detail.

which is one thing that I would expect from a would be next gen era game, especially on the level GTA V is on.

not only terrain detail, but more detail for roads and some type of elevation meter, maybe grid lines... this thing belongs on an old 2d Mario game. Pathetic effort on their part and sub par for this games standards.

MORE WINE!

my defense:
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if anyone has a pic of the in game map for gta please post it. so flat, so congested. yes, it can be followed and the city will always be congested and hard to follow, but it was half assed. little to no detail and whats with the clear background? that just makes it harder to see around what you have already explored until you explore every cm of it.

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I hoping it had San Fierro and Las Venturas on it but that might come as a DLC or in the next game.

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I love the map, I think everything's is laid out perfectly and looks amazing but it's always confused me as to why there's a desert in the middle of the countryside. It just seems so random, and it's not even a massive one, just a small one. Is this even realistic?

yeh gota admit its a piss poor desert? more like abit of sand really yeh its nice but i would rather of scrapped the lake and desert and replaced it with more forest and scenery that doesn't involve roads everywhere more of an outback where you can stand there and go wow so quiet also a ghost town would have been amazing kinda like a old mining town would love that more interesting than a lake

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