GTA V after playing Red Dead Redemption

[Captain Arthur]

 

How the hell would we drive planes in the damn Wild West?

We can't drive planes nowadays.

 

Sorry, I had to lol.

 

Well, we can according GTA logic.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Gta_V_Fan_101

[Raavi]

 

How the hell would we drive planes in the damn Wild West?

We can't drive planes nowadays.

 

Sorry, I had to lol.

 

 

How do you suppose planes get airborne? They don't teleport to the skies, they taxi, which is effectively driving.

 

Anywho, lets not spinning in circles here.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Raavi

[Detective Phelps]

 

 

How the hell would we drive planes in the damn Wild West?

We can't drive planes nowadays.

 

Sorry, I had to lol.

 

 

How do you suppose planes get airborne? They don't teleport to the skies, they taxi, which is effectively driving.

 

Exactly!

 

 

Better than gliding like that poor fool in RDR.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Los Santos Police Department

[Geralt of Rivia]

 

 

How the hell would we drive planes in the damn Wild West?

We can't drive planes nowadays.

 

Sorry, I had to lol.

 

How do you suppose planes get airborne? They don't teleport to the skies, they taxi, which is effectively driving.

 

Anywho, lets not spinning in circles here.

 

Thanks Raavi. Love you too.

 

 

Yes, it's terrible. Sue me.

 

[Captain Arthur]

Thanks Raavi. Love you too.

 

 

Yes, it's terrible. Sue me.

 

Yeah, he's a freaking killjoy.

 

 

PLZ don't send me a reminder! I'm innocent!

 

Edited February 13, 2014 by Raavi

[Raavi]

 

 

 

How the hell would we drive planes in the damn Wild West?

We can't drive planes nowadays.

 

Sorry, I had to lol.

 

How do you suppose planes get airborne? They don't teleport to the skies, they taxi, which is effectively driving.

 

Anywho, lets not spinning in circles here.

 

Thanks Raavi. Love you too.

 

 

Yes, it's terrible. Sue me.

 

 

 

 

@LSPD Da Vinci would be proud.

[BLOOD]

Nobody seem to have answer my question from page 3.

[pokemon123]

For me and many people Red Dead Redemption is retro-actively knowns as "GTA Wild West" or "GTA Cowboy",yeah it a great game but without GTA most of all openworld games wouldnt exist,that includes,Saints Row,Red Dead,Sleeping Dogs,True -Crime,Mafia etc.no other Openworld Franchise can take the Legacy from GTA,as it the Ruler and the Heartbeat of the Openworld Genre.Infact Red Dead Redemption had a "Barrier" that made it linear.

 

i think mafia might have existed. Wasn't it released a year after gta 3.

 

[sufferblind86]

Red Dead Redemption is still my favorite game of all time.

 

I still love to play once in a while. Go to Tall Trees and hunt bears.

[BLOOD]

 

 

For me and many people Red Dead Redemption is retro-actively knowns as "GTA Wild West" or "GTA Cowboy",yeah it a great game but without GTA most of all openworld games wouldnt exist,that includes,Saints Row,Red Dead,Sleeping Dogs,True -Crime,Mafia etc.no other Openworld Franchise can take the Legacy from GTA,as it the Ruler and the Heartbeat of the Openworld Genre.Infact Red Dead Redemption had a "Barrier" that made it linear.

i think mafia might have existed. Wasn't it released a year after gta 3.

 

The same year as Vice City (circa.2002).

[woggleman]

Am I the only one who remembers how much the cow herding sucked in that game? I'd rather do yoga... Still loved RDR though.

I loved RDR but I did not enjoy that. Luckily it was only a few missions. I never could get all of them. It was like herding cats.

[pokemon123]

hmm i believe if gta 3 had not come out mafia 1 would have become the revolution.

[mastershake616]

And here's yet another thought regarding the comparison of these games: working for the feds in missions.

 

There's a lot of whining about having to do it in V. That's fine, but those who cry about it shouldn't bring up other R* titles as references, otherwise they'd sound sillier than they already do.

 

In RDR, everything you do is because of the feds. To be fair, the reasoning is more clear-cut: they have your family. The goal is to get them back. Not every set of missions is directly associated with the government (quite the opposite, actually, when you cross the border), but the objective is simple through and through.

 

In V, a lot of people don't understand why we have to follow every whim of Haines and Norton, probably because the delivery of that key plot point is done in a more humorous, witty manner. I've explained it in more detail in another thread, but here's the gist: Norton did a favor for Michael, who breaks a 'contract' with Dave by robbing the jewelry store. Frank and Trevor get tangled in this mess for their own reasons.

 

Furthermore, you spend significant time pulling favors for the government in the following titles (that I know of, of course):

 

-GTA IV

-GTA IV: TLAD

-GTA: San Andreas

-GTA III

 

All the more power to the Vice City fanboys.

[woggleman]

And here's yet another thought regarding the comparison of these games: working for the feds in missions.

 

There's a lot of whining about having to do it in V. That's fine, but those who cry about it shouldn't bring up other R* titles as references, otherwise they'd sound sillier than they already do.

 

In RDR, everything you do is because of the feds. To be fair, the reasoning is more clear-cut: they have your family. The goal is to get them back. Not every set of missions is directly associated with the government (quite the opposite, actually, when you cross the border), but the objective is simple through and through.

 

In V, a lot of people don't understand why we have to follow every whim of Haines and Norton, probably because the delivery of that key plot point is done in a more humorous, witty manner. I've explained it in more detail in another thread, but here's the gist: Norton did a favor for Michael, who breaks a 'contract' with Dave by robbing the jewelry store. Frank and Trevor get tangled in this mess for their own reasons.

 

Furthermore, you spend significant time pulling favors for the government in the following titles (that I know of, of course):

 

-GTA IV

-GTA IV: TLAD

-GTA: San Andreas

-GTA III

 

All the more power to the Vice City fanboys.

You are a V fanboy and not a true fan. Had to say it before others do.

[PkUnzipper]

I think they released a game a couple of years before that was based in a huge wilderness, so they probably wanted to avoid going over old ground.

 

Anyway, there is still quite a lot of wilderness in V. To get a greater impression of it's size, try walking across it, or riding a bmx instead of a car.

 

that's not the point. You don't get the same sense of immersion (or detail) riding a BMX in the mountains of Blaine county the way you would in RDR. Or even riding a BMX in the wilderness of Mt. Chilliad in SA. You really felt a sense of isolation in the RDR (and SA) wilderness. Not true for GTA V. If you keep going on your BMX up the mountain, you'll eventually reach the top. Only to find a freeway or desert in the immediate horizon at the bottom. And this loss of feeling immersive has nothing to do with the unrealistic wanted levels you can inadvertently trigger in the middle of nowhere on Mt. Chilliad btw. The simple act of firing your rifle and/or killing an NPC in the wilderness didn't immeditately trigger a 5 star manhunt. Same deal for SA.

 

In terms of how big the map feels when playing the game, I think I'd feel the same degree of isolation if I flew a chopper around the map in RDR (and in SA). Why do I feel as though it would take a longer time to travel by chopper from the Great Plains to Escalera across the Mexican border? Because it practically takes no time at all--we're literally talking some 10 game minutes or so--to DRIVE over the mountain/hill ranges by car from Sandy Shores airfield to Vinewood. It takes even less time to go from there to the southern tip of SA airport. Flying is even shorter.

 

It's too bad GTA doesn't have horses so we could more precisely compare travel distances on both maps. But then again, the land mass is only a fraction of the total map. There's a LOT of sq. miles that has been a complete waste of space (aka completely unexplored) in both SP and in GTAO

[mastershake616]

 

You are a V fanboy and not a true fan. Had to say it before others do.

 

 

Explain, child.

[redx165]

 

And here's yet another thought regarding the comparison of these games: working for the feds in missions.

 

There's a lot of whining about having to do it in V. That's fine, but those who cry about it shouldn't bring up other R* titles as references, otherwise they'd sound sillier than they already do.

 

In RDR, everything you do is because of the feds. To be fair, the reasoning is more clear-cut: they have your family. The goal is to get them back. Not every set of missions is directly associated with the government (quite the opposite, actually, when you cross the border), but the objective is simple through and through.

 

In V, a lot of people don't understand why we have to follow every whim of Haines and Norton, probably because the delivery of that key plot point is done in a more humorous, witty manner. I've explained it in more detail in another thread, but here's the gist: Norton did a favor for Michael, who breaks a 'contract' with Dave by robbing the jewelry store. Frank and Trevor get tangled in this mess for their own reasons.

 

Furthermore, you spend significant time pulling favors for the government in the following titles (that I know of, of course):

 

-GTA IV

-GTA IV: TLAD

-GTA: San Andreas

-GTA III

 

All the more power to the Vice City fanboys.

You are a V fanboy and not a true fan. Had to say it before others do.

 

What I see on this forum is 3 different types of fans.

Rockstar Fanboys - They think every Rockstar game is a masterpiece

GTA Fanboys - Think GTA is the best game ever and ever open world game is a copy of GTA cause they're too ignorant to know the truth that GTA wasn't the first open world game and stole many of its ideas from the so called GTA clones they keep talking about.

Rockstar True Fans - People who play all or most Rockstar games and knows that not all are perfect and that lots have problems.

Edited February 13, 2014 by redx165

[Geralt of Rivia]

"Rockstar Fanboys - They think every Rockstar game is a masterpiece"

 

No. That's an opinion/generalization. Someone could love every single game R* produces, but hate the company entirely. If that person hates the company, how can they be a fanboy of them?

 

Everyone hates EA, and yet everyone buys their products. Does that make everyone an EA fanboy?

 

And also, again, you don't get to decide what a true fan is.

 

On top of that, there's actually no such thing as a "true fan". You're either a fan of the company/games or you're not. Then there's the hardcore fanbase (Now referred to as "fanboys", sadly).

 

Mastershake: He was joking, because you would most likely be called a fanboy for that post. It's sad, but true.

Edited February 13, 2014 by TheMasterfocker

[mastershake616]

What I see on this forum is 3 different types of fans.

 

Rockstar Fanboys - They think every Rockstar game is a masterpiece

GTA Fanboys - Think GTA is the best game ever and ever open world game is a copy of GTA cause they're too ignorant to know the truth that GTA wasn't the first open world game and stole many of its ideas from the so called GTA clones they keep talking about.

Rockstar True Fans - People who play all or most Rockstar games and knows that not all are perfect and that lots have problems.

 

 

Huh, weird. I'm not sure I fit any of those descriptions.

.

This should be fun. All I did was make an observation and poke a little fun at the VC-for-lifer's...a class I'm not far removed from. But sh*t-For-Brains McDoogle made an accusation that I'm sure he'll be able to back up with ample evidence.

[redx165]

"Rockstar Fanboys - They think every Rockstar game is a masterpiece"

 

No. That's an opinion/generalization. Someone could love every single game R* produces, but hate the company entirely. If that person hates the company, how can they be a fanboy of them?

 

Everyone hates EA, and yet everyone buys their products. Does that make everyone an EA fanboy?

 

And also, again, you don't get to decide what a true fan is.

 

On top of that, there's actually no such thing as a "true fan". You're either a fan of the company/games or you're not. Then there's the hardcore fanbase (Now referred to as "fanboys", sadly).

 

Mastershake: He was joking, because you would most likely be called a fanboy for that post. It's sad, but true.

How can you like every game a company makes but hate the company?

 

People hate madden but we're force to buy it if we want to play with real NFL players.

 

BF4 or COD Ghost? What's worst? At least BF4 has a bigger fanbase on the PS4. Ghost usually has only 40K a night.

 

True Fans have been someone who's been supporting the company for a long time. More than 10 years. Lets say about two console generations.

 

If someone just found out about Rockstar due to GTA V they are not a true fan compared to someone who knew them since GTA 1.

 

​@Mastershake the post wasn't too you but to blood diamond.

Edited February 13, 2014 by redx165

[Geralt of Rivia]

I'll get back to you through PM tomorrow. We're derailing the thread, and I'm gonna go get some sleep.

 

Ciao.

[Algonquin Assassin]

 

Am I the only one who remembers how much the cow herding sucked in that game? I'd rather do yoga... Still loved RDR though.

I loved RDR but I did not enjoy that. Luckily it was only a few missions. I never could get all of them. It was like herding cats.

 

 

I thought breaking in horses was way worse. Although I agree the farming missions (I guess you could call them that) were kind of a grind, but they helped set the tone for the more violent side of RDR's story.

[woggleman]

 

 

You are a V fanboy and not a true fan. Had to say it before others do.

 

 

Explain, child.

 

Just being sarcastic.

 

 

Am I the only one who remembers how much the cow herding sucked in that game? I'd rather do yoga... Still loved RDR though.

I loved RDR but I did not enjoy that. Luckily it was only a few missions. I never could get all of them. It was like herding cats.

 

 

I thought breaking in horses was way worse. Although I agree the farming missions (I guess you could call them that) were kind of a grind, but they helped set the tone for the more violent side of RDR's story.

 

Wasn't too fond of that either but RDR is still a great game.

[Luuk']

Yeah, I personally think the gunplay and the story were better in RDR. Loved the Mexico chapter, has really fun missions.

[BLOOD]

hmm i believe if gta 3 had not come out mafia 1 would have become the revolution.

True talk but no it wouldnt be that original,why? because it just a new franchise.GTA 3 came out it 2001 and blew everyones mind away,and revolutionising,popularising the genre.Critics and review coined the term "GTA Clone" and that have been there till today.GTA 3 wasnt seen as Unoriginal and a copy cat, why? because it was a sequel and an Evolution to GTA (1997) and GTA 2 (1999) and those two were 2D Openworld Games.GTA 1 could have alone invented the Genre back in 1997,if it had 3D graphics.for their time, GTA (1997) and GTA 2 (1999) had multiplayer,Peds that roam the streets,car-jacking,Wanted Stars etc.GTA 3 took it Predecessors Foundations into a 3D World and Boom it was REVOLUTIONARY and POPULARISED the Genre till today.plus GTA is the only Openworld Franchise (outside Racing Games) that have Camera Modes (4 types) for Vehicles and also a Cinematic Mode.RDR copied that a bit even though it didnt copy GTA's on-foot Camera Modes. I hope Rockstar North doesnt help R* San Diego in making a RDR sequel,why? because tbh RDR took some of GTA's Intellectual Fundamentals like;

1.When riding as a passenger,it switches to GTA type cinematic modes.

 

2.The Wanted Level was reminiscent of GTA 4,even IGN and Gamespot said that.

 

3.You save by sleeping in Bed (GTA 4 circa.2008)

 

4.John Marston is influenced by Johnny Klebitz.

 

Yeah They are all a Rockstar Studios but that literally rip-off GTA.that why GTA 5 in return borrowed some elements from RDR i.e. Wildlife and Weapon Wheel.But anyways I love RDR and it actually was one of the best game of this gen.and was original with it WildWestern Theme in the Openworld Genre.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond

[Raavi]

We aren't discussing the history future of GTA or open world games in general. Keep it on topic.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Raavi

[BLOOD]

We aren't discussing the history future of GTA or open world games in general. Keep it on topic.

Alright Mod.but i thought this was about RDR and GTA (5) ?

Edited February 13, 2014 by Blood-Is-in-Diamond

[Detective Phelps]

 

We aren't discussing the history future of GTA or open world games in general. Keep it on topic.

Alright Mod.but i thought this was about RDR and GTA (5) ?

 

GTA 5, not the entire series.

 

 

Anyway, tall trees will always be better than the chilliad wilderness. If only there were bears in GTA V.

 

The water in both games are excellent. Aurora's basin and the surrounding areas had amazing rivers, and so does V.

 

As for the guns, it is a shame that there are no revolvers in V, as RDR did have the high powered pistol.

[BLOOD]

 

 

 

We aren't discussing the history future of GTA or open world games in general. Keep it on topic.

Alright Mod.but i thought this was about RDR and GTA (5) ?

 

GTA 5, not the entire series.

 

 

Anyway, tall trees will always be better than the chilliad wilderness. If only there were bears in GTA V.

 

The water in both games are excellent. Aurora's basin and the surrounding areas had amazing rivers, and so does V.

 

As for the guns, it is a shame that there are no revolvers in V, as RDR did have the high powered pistol.

Ah Pls bro dont get me started seeing that it a topic about RDR and GTA 5.but yeah GTA 5 and RDR are both Masterpieces.but hell yeah we are all getting a Tommy Gun (something that RDR didnt have).

[richard1997jones]

Red dead redemption hasn't got the detail V has because of it's age and budget but regardless the ocean is where a lot of the map went where as the dessert is where rdr went. The biggest contribution comes the top speed players can travel compared to GTA V.