Investors want M$ to kill Xbox brand

[a20characterusername]

I love consoles because you can just plug in a game and start playing.

With PC this is not possible: Firstly, there is the annoying internet activation and installation procedure, that can take ages. Secondly, there are the constant updates that you MUST download and install before your PC lets you play the game.

This is what keeps me from playing a lot of newer games on PC. I don't like how everything requires Steam and/or GFWL now.

 

As for the second part, that can be worked around pretty easily, in most cases anyway.

[Misbegotten cad]

Yeah, steam...

I recently got saints row 3 for my new laptop.

-when tried to install, the game said it needed download steam for activation.

-hour later it was still downloading it.

Then it took about an hour to install the darned game.

And then it took six hours!!!!!!! to download some patch for the game before I could actually start playing it.

 

What the heck!!!!

 

Okay, I'm using public internet access, which is a tad slow for gaming, but having to spend eight hours before getting to play a game is way too much. No more PC games for me...

 

Luskily I did not buy a high end gaming PC, but settled for a cheap laptop! Close shave, there!

[Shane_Dbns]

Sony could go bankrupt and MS investors want an end to Xb1 so is this the end of console gaming? Okay I'm being too dramatic but it is a possibility.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Lil Jacob 27

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

How is sony going bankrupt? Are you even doing your research? Ffs, only the PC division of Sony is being removed because it's not doing well, the gaming division has never been better and will continue to do so.

[Pat]

Ps3 started sh*tty with their price and hardware problems,

In what world did the PS3 have more significant hardware problems than the Xbox 360? I'm pretty sure it still holds the record for highest system failure rate because of the RRoD.

 

 

I love consoles because you can just plug in a game and start playing.

With PC this is not possible: Firstly, there is the annoying internet activation and installation procedure, that can take ages. Secondly, there are the constant updates that you MUST download and install before your PC lets you play the game.

I've owned an Xbox 360, PS3 and PS4 and the only one out of those three that didn't have to install games before playing them was the Xbox 360. All three required installing any update that came out for a game before I could play it (while staying online, at least). For older consoles, this was a fair point, but most of the newer consoles are past that now - not just the Xbox One.

[GTA3Rockstar]

 

Ps3 started sh*tty with their price and hardware problems,

In what world did the PS3 have more significant hardware problems than the Xbox 360? I'm pretty sure it still holds the record for highest system failure rate because of the RRoD.

 

In terms of developing the games.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

[GTA3Rockstar]

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

 

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Well, considering the fact that games are not coming out straight away for the XB1/PS4, it will do well for another few years. The PS3 is still the best entertainment system and is also an awesome gaming system like the Xbox 360 so people will stick to them for a while. Once it literally is finished with no games left, and PS4/XB1 have a lot of library of games, they will have to stop supporting them. I heard that Microsoft are stopping Xbox 360 support in 2016 at the earliest, but not sure what to make of it.

Edited February 14, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Mr Rabbit]

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

 

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

 

4k is a bit ahead of its time, it is rarely actually utilised, because to get a 4k monitor is a few grand but yeah 5-6 years later 4k will become more in demand. But the only reason for that will be the price will drop to a normal level. This will be because we will have 16k resolution. Then we will have 4k console gaming but not 16k ready so same boat different waters. Maybe the timeframe will be different but this will happen

Edited February 14, 2014 by Flynny

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Sony is implementing 4k only for Movies. So it proves that it will start to increase in demand in 4-5 years easily.

[Pat]

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

And yet the Xbox 360 and PS3 both lasted almost a decade despite only being capable of 720p for the vast majority of games. Honestly, 4K gaming isn't even viable right now because 4K through HDMI is only capable of a 30hz refresh rate. I know some people would be fine with all of their games being capped at a maximum of 30FPS, but I personally am not one of those people.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Pat

[Mista J]

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

You know how much it would cost to make a console that plays games at 4K with stable frame rates? The video card alone would cost as much more than the current gen consoles. Edited February 14, 2014 by DarthShinobi

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

 

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

You know how much it would cost to make a console that plays games at 4K?

 

The main problem is the actual 4K TV's. The one's that exist right now, for example, Samsung, LG and Sony, they cost thousands of dollars.

[Moth]

 

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

You know how much it would cost to make a console that plays games at 4K with stable frame rates? The video card alone would cost as much more than the current gen consoles.

 

I don't even think the titan or the duel gpu cards can support 4k gaming at a good frame rate. And those are $999 cards.

[Killerdude]

If MS gets rid of the Xbox, Consoles as we know it will enter a Dark era of sucking complete and utter cock, Nothing would stop Sony to push out Complete Trash, they'd have to competition, no rhyme or reason to put effort into their product.

 

Competition makes a better product.

[UtricularEwe001]

^ PS4 reveal disagrees with you!

 

[a20characterusername]

If MS gets rid of the Xbox, Consoles as we know it will enter a Dark era of sucking complete and utter cock, Nothing would stop Sony to push out Complete Trash, they'd have to competition, no rhyme or reason to put effort into their product.

 

Competition makes a better product.

I really don't understand this "if Xbox is gone, we're all doomed" mindset, as if no other company would try to fill the void should they exit the console market. There are dozens of consoles of the market even now, but only the 'big three' get any attention. Some, such as the Steambox or Ouya, could become more independent by having exclusives on their consoles, made by some of the many indie developers that have come about.in the past decade.

 

Adding to that, a lot of gaming has moved onto mobile devices, especially in the east.

Edited February 15, 2014 by gtarelatedusername2

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

If MS gets rid of the Xbox, Consoles as we know it will enter a Dark era of sucking complete and utter cock, Nothing would stop Sony to push out Complete Trash, they'd have to competition, no rhyme or reason to put effort into their product.

 

Competition makes a better product.

Urghh...no. Only an Xbox fanboy would say that. Sony always push out the best exclusives and even without competition, they are smart enough to push out good products because they know they have a lot of fans and money will be going towards them. Your comment is pathetic.

[SPKxLonewolf117]

 

If MS gets rid of the Xbox, Consoles as we know it will enter a Dark era of sucking complete and utter cock, Nothing would stop Sony to push out Complete Trash, they'd have to competition, no rhyme or reason to put effort into their product.

 

Competition makes a better product.

Urghh...no. Only an Xbox fanboy would say that. Sony always push out the best exclusives and even without competition, they are smart enough to push out good products because they know they have a lot of fans and money will be going towards them. Your comment is pathetic.

 

God damn you are a stupid fanboy.....

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it. At the moment, there really isn't any competition for them. Not even the XB1. It's more powerful, there are more games coming out for the PS4, especially 100 games this year. And on top of that, we also have a good multimedia system for netflix, BBC iPlayer and whatnot, it's an all in one package. We don't need no TV wannabe sh*t.

Edited February 15, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[a20characterusername]

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it.

Asking someone to 'prove' a future event is impossible, for reasons that should be obvious.

 

As far as Sony not having competitiion, that may be somewhat true if you only look at home consoles, but a lot of gaming has moved to mobile devices. Nintendo absolutely crushes Sony in that market, which makes up the majority of all gaming devices in Japan.

 

In any event, anyone who acts as if the gaming industry would suddenly die out or become a monopoly isn't thinking long-term, IMO. There are many other companies out there that'd be more than willing to take the place of Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft should one of them exit the console and/or mobile market. How successful they'd be is anyone's guess, though.

 

e: You could count MS' Windows phone to be a gaming device of sorts as well, which sells poorly compared to Android and Apple.

Edited February 15, 2014 by gtarelatedusername2

[iiConTr0v3rSYx]

If MS gets rid of the Xbox, Consoles as we know it will enter a Dark era of sucking complete and utter cock, Nothing would stop Sony to push out Complete Trash, they'd have to competition, no rhyme or reason to put effort into their product.

 

Competition makes a better product.

Not sure if it's the samething, but look at WWE after WCW folded.

 

Vince has become arrogant and lazy.

Pushing out any kind of mediocre trash that he wouldn't have if it was the late 90's.

[SPKxLonewolf117]

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it. At the moment, there really isn't any competition for them. Not even the XB1. It's more powerful, there are more games coming out for the PS4, especially 100 games this year. And on top of that, we also have a good multimedia system for netflix, BBC iPlayer and whatnot, it's an all in one package. We don't need no TV wannabe sh*t.

 

My god it the same argument with all of you fanboys.

 

Those "100" games are nothing but Indie games. You can say that for Xbox as well because there is alot of arcade in development for it. More "powerful". If you cared about power you would get a PC. If it so powerful why does the new infamous run at 30 fps? Bringing up netflix? what the f*ck you on about?

 

Unlike you I actually own a PS4 and Xbox one. Scary concept no? I got the PS4 to try out the exclusives and so far I don't like it. Killzone was bland and that's all that is out for it. Meanwhile I can skype with my buddies then pop in some Forza 5 then switch to my recorded Top gear or any show that I like watching with my voice or a few clicks. Now go jerk off to the Sony CEO or something fanboy...I think alot of peop are tired of seeing you bitching about micosoft.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

 

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it. At the moment, there really isn't any competition for them. Not even the XB1. It's more powerful, there are more games coming out for the PS4, especially 100 games this year. And on top of that, we also have a good multimedia system for netflix, BBC iPlayer and whatnot, it's an all in one package. We don't need no TV wannabe sh*t.

 

My god it the same argument with all of you fanboys.

 

Those "100" games are nothing but Indie games. You can say that for Xbox as well because there is alot of arcade in development for it. More "powerful". If you cared about power you would get a PC. If it so powerful why does the new infamous run at 30 fps? Bringing up netflix? what the f*ck you on about?

 

Unlike you I actually own a PS4 and Xbox one. Scary concept no? I got the PS4 to try out the exclusives and so far I don't like it. Killzone was bland and that's all that is out for it. Meanwhile I can skype with my buddies then pop in some Forza 5 then switch to my recorded Top gear or any show that I like watching with my voice or a few clicks. Now go jerk off to the Sony CEO or something fanboy...I think alot of peop are tired of seeing you bitching about micosoft.

 

Lol, "indie games". Only dumb, Xbot tools use arguments like that because you can't take the fact that Xbone is getting nothing this whole year, apart from 2 or 3 games. Who said it's all indie games? It's exclusives, multiplatforms AND indie games put together. Also you're underestimating indie games, they are better than the xbox exclusives. And yes it's powerful, 30 fps for inFamous is norm because it's an OPEN WORLD GAME. Stop swallowing M$'s cum. Even Hideo Kojima said MGS V is going to be 1080p 60 fps on the PS4 with "room to spare". Unfortunately, Xbone won't even be able to handle the game.

Edited February 15, 2014 by FranklinDeRoosevelt

[Tchuck]

To those saying that indies will carry a game console; it won't. Noone will buy a home console to play indie games on it. Case in point: Ouya.

 

Sure, it's a cheap console, but promised cheap/good quality indie games, at an affordable price, with the same advantages of a regular console, costing a fraction of the price. Sure, you can't play any next generation/current generation games on it, but it's loaded with "quality" indies. So, why didn't it sell? People who care about most indie games will already have them/play them on their main starting platform: the PC. They are cheaper there, better community, more accessible. When I buy a console, I care about the good games the big company makes. I don't care if Joe GameMaker, who is a highly reputed game maker in the indie scene promised to release 10 games for it. Until the indie explodes and proves to be a great game, no-one outside the indie scene will care for it.

 

Anyway, on topic, investors will think logically. Microsoft hasn't been making as much money as before, the game industry was shocked by the rise of mobile gaming, making home consoles look unappealing for some, so the logical thing to do is to drop the divisions that do not conform to the period the company was making the most money. I mean, Microsoft really shot themselves in the foot trying to go after Apple with the Zune first and then the Windows tablet/phone/surface/whathave you. Butchering their OS to look more like a mobile interface was a really bad move. Dropping the Xbox might make logical sense, but we'll only know the results of the move after/if it happens.

[FranklinDeRoosevelt]

Of course indie games are system sellers, everyone knows that. But there are definitely good one's out there, and brand new one's as well as indie games from the PC are coming to the PS4, not all of those 100 games are indies, that's a ridiculous statement. Sony said there's going to be around 30-40 exclusives.

[GTA3Rockstar]

 

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

 

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

 

4k is a bit ahead of its time, it is rarely actually utilised, because to get a 4k monitor is a few grand but yeah 5-6 years later 4k will become more in demand. But the only reason for that will be the price will drop to a normal level. This will be because we will have 16k resolution. Then we will have 4k console gaming but not 16k ready so same boat different waters. Maybe the timeframe will be different but this will happen

 

 

Because its a new technology, obviously why it isn't utilized right now. Look at when HD came out.

 

Sony is implementing 4k only for Movies. So it proves that it will start to increase in demand in 4-5 years easily.

 

Exactly.

 

 

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

And yet the Xbox 360 and PS3 both lasted almost a decade despite only being capable of 720p for the vast majority of games. Honestly, 4K gaming isn't even viable right now because 4K through HDMI is only capable of a 30hz refresh rate. I know some people would be fine with all of their games being capped at a maximum of 30FPS, but I personally am not one of those people.

 

 

Because there was no reason to. Thats why there is no way these systems will last that long, they even said they could last a decade. If so, then they're really really slow compared to other technology. Which is why I said, 5-6 years, obviously it's not viable right now.

 

Even still, with the hardware in the systems now. Its kind of disappointing how games look.

 

 

 

Yeah that's right. But that isn't hardware problem, that's an annoying architecture to work with. And look at the results, TLOU, GTA V, and so many other exclusives that look insane.

GTA V looked quite the same and that's what you get when you work with the hardware after 6-7years.

Even still, I don't think either system will make it past 5-6years. No 4k ready

You know how much it would cost to make a console that plays games at 4K with stable frame rates? The video card alone would cost as much more than the current gen consoles.

 

 

Not in 5-6 years.

[SPKxLonewolf117]

 

 

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it. At the moment, there really isn't any competition for them. Not even the XB1. It's more powerful, there are more games coming out for the PS4, especially 100 games this year. And on top of that, we also have a good multimedia system for netflix, BBC iPlayer and whatnot, it's an all in one package. We don't need no TV wannabe sh*t.

 

My god it the same argument with all of you fanboys.

 

Those "100" games are nothing but Indie games. You can say that for Xbox as well because there is alot of arcade in development for it. More "powerful". If you cared about power you would get a PC. If it so powerful why does the new infamous run at 30 fps? Bringing up netflix? what the f*ck you on about?

 

Unlike you I actually own a PS4 and Xbox one. Scary concept no? I got the PS4 to try out the exclusives and so far I don't like it. Killzone was bland and that's all that is out for it. Meanwhile I can skype with my buddies then pop in some Forza 5 then switch to my recorded Top gear or any show that I like watching with my voice or a few clicks. Now go jerk off to the Sony CEO or something fanboy...I think alot of peop are tired of seeing you bitching about micosoft.

 

Lol, "indie games". Only dumb, Xbot tools use arguments like that because you can't take the fact that Xbone is getting nothing this whole year, apart from 2 or 3 games. Who said it's all indie games? It's exclusives, multiplatforms AND indie games put together. Also you're underestimating indie games, they are better than the xbox exclusives. And yes it's powerful, 30 fps for inFamous is norm because it's an OPEN WORLD GAME. Stop swallowing M$'s cum. Even Hideo Kojima said MGS V is going to be 1080p 60 fps on the PS4 with "room to spare". Unfortunately, Xbone won't even be able to handle the game.

 

MGS V is open world.... and they showed it off on the xbox one first...... so....

[GTA3Rockstar]

 

 

 

Okay, prove that they will push out sh*t products if there was no competition, please prove it. At the moment, there really isn't any competition for them. Not even the XB1. It's more powerful, there are more games coming out for the PS4, especially 100 games this year. And on top of that, we also have a good multimedia system for netflix, BBC iPlayer and whatnot, it's an all in one package. We don't need no TV wannabe sh*t.

 

My god it the same argument with all of you fanboys.

 

Those "100" games are nothing but Indie games. You can say that for Xbox as well because there is alot of arcade in development for it. More "powerful". If you cared about power you would get a PC. If it so powerful why does the new infamous run at 30 fps? Bringing up netflix? what the f*ck you on about?

 

Unlike you I actually own a PS4 and Xbox one. Scary concept no? I got the PS4 to try out the exclusives and so far I don't like it. Killzone was bland and that's all that is out for it. Meanwhile I can skype with my buddies then pop in some Forza 5 then switch to my recorded Top gear or any show that I like watching with my voice or a few clicks. Now go jerk off to the Sony CEO or something fanboy...I think alot of peop are tired of seeing you bitching about micosoft.

 

Lol, "indie games". Only dumb, Xbot tools use arguments like that because you can't take the fact that Xbone is getting nothing this whole year, apart from 2 or 3 games. Who said it's all indie games? It's exclusives, multiplatforms AND indie games put together. Also you're underestimating indie games, they are better than the xbox exclusives. And yes it's powerful, 30 fps for inFamous is norm because it's an OPEN WORLD GAME. Stop swallowing M$'s cum. Even Hideo Kojima said MGS V is going to be 1080p 60 fps on the PS4 with "room to spare". Unfortunately, Xbone won't even be able to handle the game.

 

MGS V is open world.... and they showed it off on the xbox one first...... so....

 

 

It's okay, he doesn't know what he's talking about a lot of the time; like 99.99% of the time.