GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[agonistes06]

I havent actually heard anyone say they could not complete the game because they used cheats. It will stop you from getting achievements .

it's odd, because usually a gta game carries penalties for using cheats.

[timesteal]

The mural could be a grille cipher. We would just need to figure out what scale to make it. Cut out the boxes ,Maybe? Check below to example of what I mean. Edit: just view the images. The 2nd one is a grille cipher key.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tangiers1.png

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tangiers2.png

 

Edit: here's what it is

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grille_(cryptography)

 

Maybe used on shrinks report,altruists morse code,etc. Just some examples.

Edited January 23, 2014 by timesteal

[bakarak]

with all the mention of mirrors and the inland sea searches recently i cant help but think that the surface of the sea is a mirror and looking at the reflection of chilliad at the right (opposite) position/angle could lead to something, would mean flipping the mural upside down...?

[williamcampbell]

 

it's odd, because usually a gta game carries penalties for using cheats.

 

 

Usually, GTA games are longer, harder and less about aliens and other childish Saints Row-like stuff too, but that didn't stop R* from making GTA V as it is, did it?

 

As one who couldn't care less about cheating or not, I can confirm that cheats will only disable achievements/trophies. Nothing else will change (yes, I've tested).

Edited January 23, 2014 by williamcampbell

[XMarqstheSpot]

Going through the Epsilon Tract again, was doing some wordplay and thought some of you might get a kick out of it.

 

This uses 90% of the sentences using the word "tract" from the English language files.(using the others didn't yield the best results, so...)

 

"The Quest for Tract(or) of Epsilonism".

The Epsilon Tract(or) of the 9th Paradigm. Year 157

The literature has been clear on that, and now the tract(or) makes clear. (like clearing a field of wheat?)

You are now truly one of us and are ready to write(ride) the tract(or), which has already been written(ridden).

The tract(or), of this, the Ninth Paradigm, which has yet to be written, is often the topic of his hundreds of speaking engagements worldwide.

The Tract(or) is not yet written(ridden) but it will be soon.

The tract(or) has not yet been written(ridden), yet it has been.

Remember, the tract(or) has not yet been written(ridden).

You can try to escape your destiny, but it's already written(ridden)in the Tract(or).

Kraff be praised, the Tract(or) is complete!

can write(ride) the tract(or).

I am writing(riding) the tract(or) here...

The tract(or) is being written(ridden).

to write(ride) the tract(or)?

We're writing(riding) the tract(or) together.

Does that mean we can write(ride) the tract(or)?

It is today and the tract(or) can be written(ridden)..

The tract(or) is now being written(ridden).

To have a chance of redeeming yourself, you must write(ride) the tract(or), which has already been written(ridden).

Edited January 23, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[SHARKEM]

 

i reckon the best options remaining, given we have exhausted all the obvious post 100% actions, are the all gold and karmic playthroughs.

not really something i would like to try and i'm sure most others wouldn't due to the time involved and the fact we wouldn't even know how to go about it properly.

the best thing we can do now on this is just playthrough again and make note of the big decisions we make and who dies etc.

if the 5 x's are related to events in the storyline then why does the middle line have no red x's in it's path? could this perhaps be franklins line since he does much less decision making like heist planning and such?

on the vangelico job if you choose the sh*t driver then someone dies. is that a x?

does anyone know if other people die on heists?

I played to all golds .I tried the karma thing . I may have killed a couple peds on the way but as far as the story goes I let everyone live when I was given a choice . The innocents went up as I went through missions . There wasnt much I could do about it . I think in certain missions where your killing a bunch of cops and a couple security guards get in on the mix , they were counted as innocents . Im Michaels alien mission they are all counted as innocents .

 

The only thing left as far as trying the karma theory IMO is this ... Playing the game and doing ONLY those missions that are needed for 100% and nothing else . Killing as little as possible along the way .

On Social Club it says the less innocents you kill the better ,doesnt say why . Morally its never a good thing to kill anyone so as far as karma it should not be a decision as to who lives and who dies but one to let everyone live and let god/kraff sort them out lol

 

did you gold each mission before moving onto the next or just clean up post story?

[XMarqstheSpot]

On the good playthrough idea...

 

did you triple tithe?

 

did you sleep with nine new partners per week?

 

did you manifest your generousity upwards?

 

were you the thesis or anti-thesis?

Edited January 23, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[StangOne50]

Most of them I golded in replays . So maybe you have to do it with each mission IDK .

[LiquidNitrogen]

@Xmarqs that's weird about the tracts lol but idk about clearing a field of wheat unless we make crop circles to signal the aliens. (I dont really think that would happen)

[tresshold]

from all the gta's I played the solution could be as simple as shoving the spacedocker up Michaels butt.

all I ever noticed with this franchise where childish sex jokes, most of them where pretty pathetic to.

 

the story line should of ended with a flyable ufo as a reward, nothing less. !!

[SHARKEM]

Most of them I golded in replays . So maybe you have to do it with each mission IDK .

maybe so. it's the first mission you go to for simeon that's got me on this thought train. it's the only thing you can do after the first intro mission which has goals. as soon as lamar started getting upset about not being employee of the month it made me want to quit and redo the first mission to get gold. but i carried on regardless.

 

i was just listening to the news around the time of the vangelico job and there was a report about people searching in the big lake in SS for something but couldn't quite make it out. sounded like lost souls maybe. then after the first trevor mission ron says what can you find in ls that you can't find in the alamo sea.?

[Crimie]

@XMarqs The world is 157 years old, this never changes as Cris says himself in an interview, so is he implying each paradigm is 157 years long and we simply pass to the next with the help of Cris & his religion? To repeat it all again? And if not you are unsaveable.... Multiple universes? I think you know please answer!

Edited January 23, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[Scoobysrt]

 

Can you mirror at the ufo line.

Both East & West are mirrored from the exact center of the map, which as it turns out, is the peak of Mt. Chiliad. Is that not the ufo you are talking about?

 

Yes, sorry i was wrong. The satellite maps threw me or for a minute there.

My bad.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

Someone on the last page mentioned some doors on a balcony of a building near the movie studio. I can confirm that you can glitch under the map. My first time under the map too.

Edited January 23, 2014 by TrevorsStinkyFingers

[Darthwill]

@Tadd I'm really starting to believe you guys as well. I think it seems impossible to finish this mystery for now and DLC is most looking likely more and more. I was hoping it wasn't though, We all were hoping it to be in the game. Some ppl aren't giving up but I'm not stopping them.

 

The PC version is probably a few months away. The PC version is far superior because of Higher performance and Mods. I'm sure ppl will make Jetpack and UFO Mods. Even better mysteries. Btw if everyone was worrying about having to pay for DLC don't be because since the PC has mods it has always been better over the years. It's like the PC version takes a dump on console versions. R* gets more money either way. DLC or not, More versions and such. They're just Rich Snobs looking to become Trillionairs or something. They don't care. In someways they do though like Online support. I think they have all this crap out of story to focus Online. I don't even like Online it makes me mad Online is better then GTA V anyways. >_<

[tadd]

My first time under the map too.

Eerie isnt it lol

 

I'll add this place to the list of possible false walls though... seems to just be unfinished building though, over looked by the devs.

 

Edit: @above... dont want it to be true though... i have a connection and play online but just for the sake of the game being everything i hoped and not a complete flop, i think the jetpack needs to be in it... a secret room would be cool but the jetpack image will still annoy everyone, so if there is no jetpack the game shouldnt of had the image of one.

Edited January 23, 2014 by tadd

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

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Edited January 23, 2014 by TrevorsStinkyFingers

[Dog_Bread]

I for one welcome this latest exodus of gunters, for I would rather the community shrink than R* make any announcements regarding the jetpack/egg.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@above. That is probably the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard.

[Dog_Bread]

Well I'm sorry to hear that, but for me the mystery is so much more special when we don't know for sure whether there is something to find or not. That way it is like a real life conspiracy theory.

 

This is one of the reasons I despise people hacking the files, or pestering R* with attempted social engineering (I have ranted about this quite a lot in the past). Luckily for me, R*'s stated policy and prior record is that they don't talk about easter eggs, at least during the shelf life of a game.

 

different strokes!

 

 

 

[EDIT: removed a redundant use of the word "why"]

Edited January 23, 2014 by Dog_Bread

[TH3 ONE]

Might have been mentioned if so then ignore but has anyone noticed the chilliad ufo emits a tractor beam underneath?

[timesteal]

@whoever

At the end of the Epsilon mission what path did you take? Make the pay or let them fly away?

I was wondering if the later of the 2 had a different outcome?

[TirkaneX]

More simple,

why do Epsilon missions?

Why do missions lester?

Why not choose the gentle method when it's mickael who lead operations and brutal method when it's Trevor?

Why not make the choice according to the profile of each character?

Idem for frielander, buying properties and full of stuff I've probably not mentioned.(Troubleshooting car and cab to franklin example. No violence and the best thing he can do, drive. Just an example)

Edited January 23, 2014 by TirkaneX

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@Dogbread. Didn't mean to offend. Was a bit tired out what with all the fighting around here lately.

[cerevantis74]

I'm obviously a little late with this, but somebody had requested mirroring of the map earlier. I created a mirrored map for all 4 directions. Here ya go:

 

http://imgur.com/a/hT4T0

 

Good stuff, thanks. Chiliad looks pretty wicked in both of the images using it as the center point.

In between the vinewood signs appears strange on the satellite version too, almost like an arched black hole. On the regular version, this is where it creates the image of someone being beamed up.

 

I really need to see a collision model of Sisyphus theater and the surrounding area. Maybe the lightning bolts are representations of sound, sound that would emit, or be amplified at a theater.

 

With this in mind, perhaps the ampitheater can amplify the SD horns ( I know, I know)

Edited January 23, 2014 by cerevantis74

[Karoi]

@Dogbread. Didn't mean to offend. Was a bit tired out what with all the fighting around here lately.

 

Amen! Finally someone who agrees with me. We need to help each other not fight each other!

[timesteal]

 

 

@Dogbread. Didn't mean to offend. Was a bit tired out what with all the fighting around here lately.

Amen! Finally someone who agrees with me. We need to help each other not fight each other!

. You will find several in agreements with this

[Crimie]

Ok, so I actually found something new I think.... its pretty small but it is something to be noted if its never been seen!

 

This colorful sign caught my eye as I was wandering around on foot, you might not catch it at first, and these pics actualy dont prove it says it but you have to swing your camera around with the right stick to see it from a specific angle underneath which i cant take a picture of if you understand me.... , but on the bottom right hand corner there is a page posted with smudged text concealing a word written in chalk on the wood..it says "Actuality" one of the passwords for the children of the mountain registration. Theres not much attention paid to this cult at all ive noticed

I suppose ill take the treks on foot and see if I can find anymore signposts possibly with the other passwords,might not lead to anything probably just an indication that this cult is out there writing things while they are doing their treks and makes the world seem lived in,(like enviromental storytelling) but it was very well hidden I cant help but investigate more

Edited January 23, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[StangOne50]

Someone on the last page mentioned some doors on a balcony of a building near the movie studio. I can confirm that you can glitch under the map. My first time under the map too.

I have come across a couple locations where you can glitch under the map also . I wonder how many of these locations are actually in the game . I wonder why they are there in the first place .I know there has always been spots like this in the games but why dont they just close them up .

Im not sure these are the same as false walls though I wouldnt think so .

 

 

I have seen that sign that says actuality . I havent found one with the other password(futility) . Has anyone ?

Edited January 23, 2014 by stangone50

[krafffrom9]

and i think you saw, on this this signpost, that the word "actuality" represent the altruiste camp?

because it's your actuality...

4 colours...the yellow is the most important...4 characters...now switch on the 4th and saw the colour...

 

Kifflom