GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[Darthwill]

I upvote Dog_Bread to get the ban hammer, Anyone agree? Stop Derailing the thread or GTFO. I myself will be more agressive to trolls this time around. Darthwill brings Justice.

(It's spelled Raavi, go edit your post), Barefoot Tiger you agree?

[cyaninternetdog]

 

 

The godhead is definately not anything to do with Epsilon. Epsilon are black occultists. I am sure you dont need Epsilon to gain access to the godhead.

 

Well, you're going to have to show how you came to this conclusion or at least try to explain. I can show how it's part of the Tract/epsilon, so if you say it isn't then i assume i'ts merely more than a gut feeling?

 

You know I can prove it but it is such a long winded and out there explanantion. People cant even accept the game is heavily based on the occult and the game world is a matrix. So many real life connections to it all it is ridiculous. Most people arent aware that Epsilon is alive and well in our reality forcing the hunt down dark alleys. Anyone pro Epsilon here is the enemy to us all. Epsilon may be a parody of Scientology but look up what Scientology are about and L Ron Hubbards occult connections.

[poochiewanacake84]

1856 is a reference to baphomet the deity of the Knights templar/illuminati , sorry can't link I'm a computer retard his image is defined in the swell of the alamo sea if you YouTube gta v satanic goat you'll see the location, could be linked to altruists ie goat fire cave

[Dog_Bread]

"There's enough here for us all to enjoy."

 

"Depends on how you look at it."

 

Seems pretty clear that Trev and Mike were talking about the game, the hunt and all the different ways to approach it.

[~Tiger~]

 

I upvote Dog_Bread to get the ban hammer, Anyone agree? Stop Derailing the thread or GTFO. I myself will be more agressive to trolls this time around. Darthwill brings Justice.

(It's spelled Raavi, go edit your post), Barefoot Tiger you agree?

 

 

No.

 

You do not bring justice and you will not be aggressive to anyone and posts like this tend to make situations worse, not better.

 

If any action needs to be taken towards any member it will be done by staff. That is what we are here for.

 

You are here to discuss matters and enjoy the discussion. If another member is spoiling the atmosphere then please report them or, better still, send either myself, or Raavi a PM advising us of the problem, who is causing the problem, and explaining exactly what this person is doing that is causing the problem.

 

Thank you.

[XMarqstheSpot]

 

 

 

The godhead is definately not anything to do with Epsilon. Epsilon are black occultists. I am sure you dont need Epsilon to gain access to the godhead.

 

Well, you're going to have to show how you came to this conclusion or at least try to explain. I can show how it's part of the Tract/epsilon, so if you say it isn't then i assume i'ts merely more than a gut feeling?

 

You know I can prove it but it is such a long winded and out there explanantion. People cant even accept the game is heavily based on the occult and the game world is a matrix. So many real life connections to it all it is ridiculous. Most people arent aware that Epsilon is alive and well in our reality forcing the hunt down dark alleys. Anyone pro Epsilon here is the enemy to us all. Epsilon may be a parody of Scientology but look up what Scientology are about and L Ron Hubbards occult connections.

 

Opposite. Pro epsilon, no. Pro message, yes.

 

Just as i believe in the bible but, not the religions BS we are told about it, the true message in it. As Jesus's message was dangerous to the "Government" at the time it had to be written metaphorically and hidden behind Angel's/Devil's/God's, etc. etc.

 

there is truth in the metaphor's of the Tract because it is the same message as the Bible. The Scientology stuff has become a 'Meme" in the real world but, that is part of the intelligence test, because what they believe is also Metaphoric, not word for word belief.(I bet nobody ever told you guys this because South Park knows everything, right?)

 

Scientology gives people the same message as The Bible, the Tract, and GTAV. "Be the star of your own movie" and "You are a God".

Edited July 13, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[TirkaneX]

you forgot "give us money"

[XMarqstheSpot]

you forgot "give us money"

Yes but, the money is symbolic and not necessary for any type of enlightenment except personal provings to yourself. Show that you are ready, give it all up. This is how you reach the next Paradigm, become a bum.

 

The Tract even says He who is poor now shall one day be rich(bum's) and the whole "some look left, some look right..." remember the answer is right in front of us, at a BUM CAMP.

 

Just think about it this way, the literal translations are not literal because the words have been twisted into fairy tales. To think about it literally you would have to think about it non-literally to come back around full circle to the truth.

 

Truth was written.

Truth was hijacked and re-written.

"Fake Truth" is now seen as the Literal truth but, it's as far away as you can get.

"Real" Truth is now seen as crazy.

 

How does the old saying go... "Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies"? or something like that.

 

EDIT: See, i can give the Ultimate gift, the Egg that everyone is looking for but, it's not what anyone want's it to be. Why would a God need a Jetpack, unless he's a fraud?

 

Wait to receive or create what you dream of? I guess some people just want to see the world burn.

 

 

And how could anyone deny all the good that Epsilon did for Marny? It can't be all that bad. Don't be scared of the unknown, unknow what you know.

Edited July 13, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[krafffrom9]

hello,

http://religionscholar.blogspot.fr/p/in-search-of-philosophers-stone.html

[dantec14]

this image...
http://i.imgur.com/IfIwrKb.jpg
...a man, a woman and a fountain.

some alchemical engravings of the Middle Ages:

man, woman and fountain
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/codex_magica/images/ccodex_76.jpg
another
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Fig._1.jpg

King and Queen / Sun and Moon
http://fr.academic.ru/pictures/frwiki/82/Roi_et_Reine_Alchimie.jpg
another
http://www.cgjung.net/alchimie/1992/Image5.jpg
...
http://jigme.chez-alice.fr/L2/coitus.gif

see
http://www.cgjung.net/oeuvre/images/mysterium_conjunctionis_1.jpg

[XMarqstheSpot]

Of course Jung/freud are connected to the Mystery, it's crazy to think otherwise. the only clues we have followed are form in game, and those led us to here.

 

EDIT: Nobody mad eup any clues, so if we found Freud then that's where we are supposed to be...

Edited July 14, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[CanOdope]

Capolovaro ,or whatever it's called, specifically mentions Freud, so that's not really debatable. I think it may have also mentioned Jung.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Yes, Capo mentions him by name. "Freud has something to answer for", or something like that.

 

to be honest, the Epsilon stuff really doesn't have a link to Freud/Jung except the 157 years which is debateable. (157 may be the yare in other GTA's also BUT, what happened 157 years before those games were released?

 

157 before GTAV = Freud/Jung

157 before GTA IV = ???

157 before GTA S.A. = ???

Freud/Jung link to the mural though.

 

2 different things altogether, Epsilon and the Mural.(Except Jetpack/Fromage)

 

EDIT: Mural/colors/characters, etc, etc. = Freud/Jung/Occult(these are probably 2 different "mysteries" here(law of 3 = 3 different mysteries?)

Epsilon = Eckhart Tolle.

Edited July 15, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[Dog_Bread]

Furthermore, in Friedlander's reports, statement two contains references to ego, and statement three contains references to ego, id and Jung. Examples:

 

* Tries to repress ego, with limited effect.

 

* Id way out of control.

 

* Out of control id - Jung would have a field day with this one.

 

* Raging ego.

 

* Very large ego.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Dog_Bread

[krafffrom9]

search about this monument (IG, IRL,)

i give you the sentence: 서올정

Edited July 16, 2014 by krafffrom9

[platasnatch]

@above, "Seoul Jung" whatever that means.

 

http://redd.it/1u1yyt thanks to supermaruo

Edited July 16, 2014 by platasnatch

[ShiningLight]

@ kraffrom is it a peace bell monument or an angel gate? and someone please tell me that retard America dude did not find the jetpack by shining the SD lights on a big rock, surely it wasn't that simple a idea all this time.

 

 

@ kraffrom again, seoul jung, is it Korean special type of love?

Edited July 16, 2014 by Barefoot Tiger

[krafffrom9]

just because you speak about Jung,

if your best reward is a shrink balance sheet, can you always say that the psychological aspect of the game is a details?

[dantec14]

One day, a rainy day probably,

sitting in a red sports car, The Great Confucius said:

- Don't press the accelerator like this,

we're not going forward ...

 

서올정 - Called Da Wool Jung - pronounce dauljeong : means, ...and accurate information

Or - meaning a harmonious gathering place, by the builder.

 

No relationship with Jung, but the combination of the two idea seems promising...

and it is not impossible that he assuredly will have approved.

 

Yoga time ?

Edited July 22, 2014 by dantec14

[Eram]

(...)

search about this monument (IG, IRL,)

i give you the sentence: 서올정

Korean Gardens IG & IRL here: http://grandtheftdata.com/landmarks/#-898.427,-875.743,6,satellite,location=korean,Korean_Garden,_S_Rockford_Dr,_Little_Seoul

 

"5,000-square-foot Koreatown Pavilion Garden. A traditional pavilion and garden at Olympic Boulevard and Normandie Avenue. It is across the street from where Koreatown began in the late 1960s with a Korean grocery store. Made of pine and dyed in traditional shades of green, rust and red, the open-air pavilion is topped by an upswept tiled roof.

Called Da Wool Jung, meaning a harmonious gathering place, the monument was built by South Korean craftsmen who were brought here for the job. The $695,000 project took five years of planning, fundraising and work."

 

Plenty of info about this on google, some of it here:

http://koreatownladirectory.com/listing/korean-pavilion-dauljong/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_garden

 

Allez krafffrom, spit it out!

Edited July 16, 2014 by EramVerdes

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

"A week ago"... Wow, a week with no posts.

I guess I can understand people not wanting to post here after the thread was moved & renamed. I don't really want to post mystery or gameplay ideas in a thread about "GTAF's very own Cult" either. I never joined that cult, and I have no interest in that cult (just in cargo cults ). Anyway it is disappointing to see my old posts get re-branded under the "cult" label.

But still... where did everyone go? Is there another thread that I haven't seen yet? Or have all the "hunters" just given up on GTAF?

EDIT @CanOdope below:

A new topic on the main board...? I didn't know.
I'll check it out. Thanks for the info!

Edited July 25, 2014 by SuperMaruoBrassiere

[CanOdope]

@Super There's a new topic, it's on the main board now. It's a little more active than this one. At least a few posts per day. A lot of people seem to have given up on the hunt since the threads were merged/moved...

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/721105-gta-v-mystery-topic/

Edited July 25, 2014 by CanOdope

[XMarqstheSpot]

Still around and actively searching, just thought i would/should check in...

 

I just don't see the need anymore to post any ideas in a public forum, it only attracts the grammar nazi's and hall monitor types who have no interest in your post, just interested in being jerky to others.

 

I do all my theorizing through PM now.

 

 

and again i would just like to say that nobody ever created a "Cult" or said this is one, besides the idiot mod who created the topic to joke on people who simply had a differing opinion and were searching for answers to unanswered questions. If "Cults" try to improve and better themselves then i guess we are a "Cult".

 

 

some people take fan fiction way too far

"Only those who risk going too far find out how far one can truly go".

 

Rules are made to be broken, life is a game, live it as such.

 

Too far or not far enough? The end result has been the same form both ends of our search, so was it worth it to attack your fellow man who was only trying to reach the stars for not only himself, but all of us as a whole?

 

Where would we be now, what could we have achieved, what was possible that is not now that we didn't work together and separated the search into categories of Right and Wrong?

 

One side of the hunt was welcoming to everybody and one side was not...

Edited July 28, 2014 by Barefoot Tiger

[CanOdope]

You mean because one side fed the trolls/wannabe messiahs, and one refused to do so...

[XMarqstheSpot]

Welcoming everyone's opinions and views doesn't mean you buy into it. It's still better than being aggressive jerks to anyone and everyone who has a differing opinion.

 

I welcome people to tell me all about their faith in their religion, but i don't believe in it. No need to be jerks to people, simply put. Did it help your cause in any way at all to exile the people you claim to be "Troll's"? Nope.

 

Hope you felt really good about yourself though, acting like know it all's on the internet, sending people hateful PM's, etc, etc. all over a video game.

 

 

 

Here is the real truth, people like those are not wanted around by us, so exiling is our goal. It's us exiling you though, through the intelligence tests. you think you're in control, making the decisions, but you were being worked and played by the superior beings. Reverse psychology is a bitch, huh?

 

EDIT: Your Truth = "I can't"

My Truth = "I can"

 

We are both correct, i just don't let others negativity invade my space. See, some people are so sure that they are losers and nothing will ever happen to them, so sure that the world is going down the drain, so sure that everything is out of their control that they argue it to the death. It seems so real to these people that it's doesn't seem possible that the opposite is in fact reality.

 

Nobody is wrong here because we are literally living in different worlds on the same planet. So remember,"Another world is possible" as the Tract says.

Edited July 30, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[ShiningLight]

@ xmarqs good to see you are still around, if this was a book you would be one of my favourite characters by far, always got some interesting input that gets my wee brain doing circles ok so to anyone else reading this and the mystery topic I finally cleared the altruist camp the other day and got the 25k briefcase and a padlocked box but no idea what to do with it, I left and came back with the cargo bob but box had disappeared, sooo? next thing is the guys doing the moon party, I am still on 94.8% and have been at the hippy mural and heard the call about the moon party, I have also been at the hippy camp at the trailer park and heard them talking of the full moon party, so no 100% needed to hear these things. and just a little thing that happened to me the other night that made me smile, I drove down grove street and got attacked so I phone the cops obviously(cause im a grass) but the cops turn up in 2 cars, the ballas proceed to kill the cops and steal the cop cars and chase me all the way to the airport, it was another special moment in the greatest computer game ever created imo.

[CanOdope]

Welcoming everyone's opinions and views doesn't mean you buy into it. It's still better than being aggressive jerks to anyone and everyone who has a differing opinion.

You know as well as anyone else here that I welcome everyone's opinions and views, I just don't play into the blatant nonsense like some do.

 

 

I welcome people to tell me all about their faith in their religion, but i don't believe in it. No need to be jerks to people, simply put. Did it help your cause in any way at all to exile the people you claim to be "Troll's"? Nope.

As a matter of fact, it has helped our cause... Due to those of us who call out the trolls/wannabe messiahs, we can now actually make some sense out of the mystery thread. No more B, no more Kurrupt. So... wrong again.

 

Hope you felt really good about yourself though, acting like know it all's on the internet, sending people hateful PM's, etc, etc. all over a video game.

This is just too funny coming from you.

 

 

 

Here is the real truth, people like those are not wanted around by us, so exiling is our goal. It's us exiling you though, through the intelligence tests. you think you're in control, making the decisions, but you were being worked and played by the superior beings. Reverse psychology is a bitch, huh?

Nice try, but nope. Intelligence tests... LMFAO!

 

EDIT: Your Truth = "I can't"

My Truth = "I can"

 

We are both correct, i just don't let others negativity invade my space. See, some people are so sure that they are losers and nothing will ever happen to them, so sure that the world is going down the drain, so sure that everything is out of their control that they argue it to the death. It seems so real to these people that it's doesn't seem possible that the opposite is in fact reality.

 

Nobody is wrong here because we are literally living in different worlds on the same planet. So remember,"Another world is possible" as the Tract says.

Again, nice try, but nope. Edited July 30, 2014 by CanOdope

[Sir Thang]

As this will likely be my last time visiting this forum, I feel it is important to point out a couple things: 1) as a collective group of "scientific" hunters, we really have come no closer to solving the mural mystery as Brain or anyone else. Nothing has been unlocked, nothing has been proven. Although I personally do not subscribe to the strictly karma theory, I do believe it has a role on this, albeit minor. That said, you all act like such children when you disagree. Xmarqs, you are awesome man, but sometimes you think of yourself as a little TOO awesome. You have great ideas and research, but a true enlightened person would never consider themselves superior to anyone or anything. Canodope and all the other troll hunters, you are so afraid of having faith in something you cannot even say the name of one of the best hunters that worked on this. Brian is not perfect, but I bet he is more balanced emotionally and spiritually than any of you cowards who jumped on the hate Brian bandwagon. You all should have embraced his ideas, because time has shown that they were equally as valid as the "scientific" methods that have been tried and failed for 9 months. You are the village idiots who killed Frankensteins monster, only because you didnt understand him. Oh well...happy hunting.

[CanOdope]

Brian, balanced? Those are two words I can't honestly put in a sentence together. LOL.

 

And regarding your comment about faith, I put mine in reality. Something you guys can't seem to grasp.

 

Also, who are you referring to as the "Best hunters"? I have commended XMarqstheSpot numerous times for his research into lightning, and his general knowledge of the game. He's definitely one of the best hunters in my opinion, and I have no problem saying it.

 

You guys crack me up.

[Modified Soul]

you know whats funny, i dont even remember starting this Topic, looking over it now i mustve been all sorts of drunk

Edited July 31, 2014 by Modified Soul