GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[krashr]

[TirkaneX]

ninja thought. Ps eye, stuffs tried?

[Darthwill]

Well I found out the leaker was fake since I was skeptical about him in the first place.

Also the next time I see a theory on here without proof including Pics and Video's I'm debunking them.

That goes for the Big shots as well saying they done it all. Well prove it next time you reply to someone on here before you debunk them.

I'm poor with little to no income, I get by family and friends. I help them out as well. If the world was like that with so much help this would be solved by now. Not only that but we would work as a team. Those that stay on these forums don't play GTA much anymore and debunk ppl. I have a life actually. I was at a party last night pretty drunk so yea it was crazy.

But still we should treat new members on here with respect. Even if they don't know as much. We help them with what they have to say.

But if there wasn't a mystery at all there would be no mural, no fake UFO's or anything. Try the new notes from cars on Mt Chiliad. It's a Close Encounters reference. That's a fact.

[socrates75]

 

Well I found out the leaker was fake since I was skeptical about him in the first place.

Also the next time I see a theory on here without proof including Pics and Video's I'm debunking them.

That goes for the Big shots as well saying they done it all. Well prove it next time you reply to someone on here before you debunk them.

I'm poor with little to no income, I get by family and friends. I help them out as well. If the world was like that with so much help this would be solved by now. Not only that but we would work as a team. Those that stay on these forums don't play GTA much anymore and debunk ppl. I have a life actually. I was at a party last night pretty drunk so yea it was crazy.

But still we should treat new members on here with respect. Even if they don't know as much. We help them with what they have to say.

But if there wasn't a mystery at all there would be no mural, no fake UFO's or anything. Try the new notes from cars on Mt Chiliad. It's a Close Encounters reference. That's a fact.

 

Would ypu happen to know which cars make different horn sounds from others? like which ones do you think would be good to bring up there

[the buckit]

 

Well I found out the leaker was fake since I was skeptical about him in the first place.

I f*cking believed you now i'm hurt and will never trust anyone again thanks for pain

[Darthwill]

@socrates75 Yes, Gimmie a few min as Youtube doesn't have the right scene.

 

@the buckit I believed it was true as well. Now don't get upset as If the trailer does comeout soon with partner Yoga then the leaker was right. But he emailed me that he has a close friend working at shipping factories with R* games. I believed it to be fake so I deleted him.

[WillyDope]

Im surprised this day in age people still fall for the "My father's uncle's best friend's girlfriend works at rockstar" stuff.

 

Thanks for letting us know that the guy was a fraud Darth, moving forward that type of stuff should be considered fake unless proof is provided as well

[auntjeff]

@ Darthwill.....why, since your insider guy didn't pan out, are you saying you will be auto-debunking theories that don't have pics and video? It doesn't seem to groove with what you say later on about respect and helping.

 

Should I find somewhere else to post what I've been thinking/working on?

Edited June 16, 2014 by auntjeff

[CanOdope]

Always consider rumors to be false, until proven otherwise.

[Darthwill]

Sadly Plug In on my PS3 is being weird and can't watch videos at the moment because I was going to post the time the scene starts.

 

But here is the link and you need to watch the last 30 min of it. This may seem illegal in some countries but you can watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind for free on Crackle.com or the Crackle App on PS3. Not sure if PS4 has it yet.

 

But here:

http://putlocker.is/watch-close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-online-free-putlocker.html

 

Now if this gives ideas about the Mt chiliad Mystery because I see alot of connections here. I think this may lead to steps of Fort Zancudo even.

 

Air Base, Ufo's, A mountain, Notes we got by update. This could be a trigger on Mt Zancudo instead of Chiliad?

 

Well Enjoy. Btw Sony owns this movie and it's free on Crackle.com by Sony so it's 100% Legal. Enjoy

 

Note this is research for the Mystery so no harm mods.

[Synauron]

Sadly Plug In on my PS3 is being weird and can't watch videos at the moment because I was going to post the time the scene starts.

 

But here is the link and you need to watch the last 30 min of it. This may seem illegal in some countries but you can watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind for free on Crackle.com or the Crackle App on PS3. Not sure if PS4 has it yet.

 

But here:

http://putlocker.is/watch-close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-online-free-putlocker.html

 

Now if this gives ideas about the Mt chiliad Mystery because I see alot of connections here. I think this may lead to steps of Fort Zancudo even.

 

Air Base, Ufo's, A mountain, Notes we got by update. This could be a trigger on Mt Zancudo instead of Chiliad?

 

Well Enjoy. Btw Sony owns this movie and it's free on Crackle.com by Sony so it's 100% Legal. Enjoy

 

Note this is research for the Mystery so no harm mods.

ok just watched it so how will we recreate the 5 to 6 notes used?

GTAO?

I'm not seeing how it's doable in gta v unless we get 6 bikes(might be the fastest way to switch around notes)

and there are two bikes on mt chilliad so in my brain it does make a weird connection.

 

but still I don't think it's possible althought I'm willing to try it if you have any ideas.

[Darthwill]

Well There are 3 Ufo's in that Scene. 3 UFO's that stand out in GTA V. I believe 1 note would work for each and R* could have a similar melody but not the same as the movie. R* can't use it because it's copy righted and they do parody stuff anyways.

 

My guess is use a note at each of the locations. But Mt chiliad first since it could be the trigger needed. Another clue in the movie was satellites becaused one turned. Get it WoW symbol clue and these notes from the movie. If not play a note on Mt Zancudo because the movie seems more connected to that. Maybe at 3 AM the Bunker lights trigter the time to play the note. Sadly which note I have no idea?

[Synauron]

the bunker lights could be the hours we have to horn... maybe?

since there are 3 stages to that light... and the light keeps..."evolving" much like a music sheet.

one note is just noise, 2 notes can make a melody. a crappy one, and 3 notes well... a better melody.

 

This will be time consuming... but sure I'll see what I can find. I will say I'm skeptical thought.

Edited June 16, 2014 by Synauron

[Darthwill]

Srry for the double post unless someone beats me to it.

 

But in the file thread Tadd and others speculated the Alien Egg is for a cutscene. If Mods put it in they can materialize it in the game.

 

But what if this hologram Ufo on Mt Chiliad gives the Alien Egg to you like in the mural? Play the right melody out pops the Alien Egg or beams it down.

 

I got to try this. Sadly no equipment to make video's. Sorry about the debunking thing. I guess I'm with the crowd.

 

But this seems interesting. I'ma go try it. Who's with me?

[Darthwill]

Now I'm double posting I think? But @Synauron I think u maybe right as well.

 

But each of the 3 characters can have 1 horn on them. So it's easier but how we get all 3 to the locations would be difficult unless a cargobob connected to a towtruck and a car would work. lol, But the Cargobob needs one then.

 

The Easiest that can be tried is the Hippy Cam which they can all meet up there.

[CanOdope]

 

And the biggest find.... Story complete!. How the F dow we do this?!

I think we should focus on this a little more... Where did you find this? I'd like to do a little digging of my own...

[Darthwill]

Maybe we need to complete the mystery before story complete idk? But I mean all 3 characters main vehicles can have horns on them.

 

If there was someone that solved this last week. These horns must be the key somehow? Idk makes perfect sense to the movie and real life stuff like the WoW Signal. Could be a Key to trigger

 

If not we can use a horn or melody on Mt Zancudo, Altruist Camp, Mt Chiliad, Hippy Camp and Mt Gordo. 5 x's 5 locations to use it on, 5 Glyphs to trigger something. Idk something seems plausible here.

 

Srry I talk alot sadly PS3 can't allow me to write page long msgs or several I mean.

[XMarqstheSpot]

I'm sure I've seen it mentioned before that the only spawn for a rusty tractor outside of Epsilon missions is the one outside Ursula's house, but I found another spawn point in Grapeseed today...

 

 

First time i have seen this. I was keeping in the back of my mind the idea that the single spawn point, making it a unique-ish vehicle was something to be observed and not forgot about. My logic was that in case you stole the Epsilon Money you would still be able to complete whatever it is you do because another TRACTor is available, just hard to find.

 

This find doesn't completely debunk that idea i guess but, it sure makes it less sexy.

 

GOOD FIND, all credit to you as far as i know.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Awesome, good enough for me. "BBQ Spaceflight" then.

 

It is obviously an A but, i'm just the type of guy that if it's not 100% locked in then it could be 99% wrong. Every option should be explored until we exhaust all possibilities, leaving us with only what actually works in the end.

[Darthwill]

Well this is what we should be doing. Focus on one theory at a time.

So Ungreth and Xmarks working on this. I say we need to work on this first before mine. No new theories until we debunk it.

 

That is how it suppose to be done by teamwork. You can say things about me or backfire it but it's true and you know it. No offence but I'm right. I know I am. These thread needs reorganization again.

[Ungreth]

Well this is what we should be doing. Focus on one theory at a time.

So Ungreth and Xmarks working on this. I say we need to work on this first before mine. No new theories until we debunk it.

 

That is how it suppose to be done by teamwork. You can say things about me or backfire it but it's true and you know it. No offence but I'm right. I know I am. These thread needs reorganization again.

 

I'm not really "working" on anything to be honest. I leave the theorizing to the deep thinkers. I'm more of a "searcher", an observational reporter...I use my eyes more than my brain and generally leave the analysis of anything I find to other forum members, and I only tend to post here when I can provide a pic of something which may help expand or narrow down the hunt.

[Darthwill]

I understand now. I Love thinking alot and just ponder off. I don't get headaches either. But I'm just a a person who loves theories and deep ones. I don't over do it as much as some on here do. But to be honest without all these ideas and some ppl wish were true keeps this thread from getting boring. But we need to focus on one thing instead of multiple things at once. It'll throw us off. If I solved the mystery I wouldn't be happy. I don't want fame or fortune from this. I hope another person or group will solve this. They need a university for this even just an Online community to solve this.

 

Similar to Smougon university for pokemon. They are a group to figure the best ways of competitive play in tournaments.

 

Imagine an Online group that solved the mystery. Idk if there is any but let me know if there is or I can google it.

 

But unlike ppl throwing multiple theories at once. A university of ppl can do more. They solve thier own problems. If nothing exist make one or something.

[Ungreth]

A recent thread at Reddit got me thinking about how random events might effect karma (assuming karma theories are to be accepted), and it dawned on me that perhaps the reason we don't need to complete all random events for 100% is to allow us room for karma based playthroughs. If you had to complete all random events then a "good" karma playthrough would be impossible since robbing a security truck for example is quite clearly a "bad" thing to do.

 

Never put much faith in the karma theory before, but thinking this way i can see that there may be some merit to it. My only issue is that morality can be a very grey area and a seemingly good or bad action might actually be the opposite of how it appears. Would a karma playthrough be absolute, in that one bad action will ruin an entire good karma save, or would one bad action be redeemed by many good actions?

 

I dunno....it fries my head thinking about it.

[krafffrom9]

so an "A", eye or a spaceship?

the three are correct, but look for symbolisms.

use your right brain, take your spaceflight...

see and interpret the others "eye"

[XMarqstheSpot]

Devil's Advocate but, "robbing" something back that was your's to begin with which was stolen from you is what karma is all about.

 

What comes around goes around. On the surface, face value, it seems like a bad thing but, is it really?

 

 

as for the Karma/symbolic/metaphoric stuff... It's there and was put in the game on purpose. whether it has anything to do with any game mechanics to be figured out is up in the air still, though. It's meant to be seen and understood but, that might be as far as it goes, unfortunately. I wish i could find something more to do with it as of right now but, it's hard with less than a handful of people working together on that part of the game as opposed to thousands looking at the Chiliad Mural/Mystery.

 

I think what we have come up with so far is beyond any type of reasonable expectation for such a small think tank. this type of symbolic/karma related stuff usually draws the... don't take this the wrong way guys but, usually attracts the more intuitive personalities that want to find answers instead of just having them explained to them outright.

[XMarqstheSpot]

One is none
None is two
Holy God and holy truth
Nine is God
Nine to come
Nine to breathe inside your lungs

Edited June 16, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[XMarqstheSpot]

I have to post this as a protection of an idea/theory.

 

I had my Doc Brown moment today.

 

Disregard this post pretty much, i just want to be able to go back and say "That was the day it happened to us all. The day i slipped and hit my head on the toilet."

 

 

Of course, it could be absolutely nothing at all but, still this is an idea i feel that needs protecting from YouTube video makers. Basically, this is my "First!" post for claims purposes.

[Slate Mc]

Sadly Plug In on my PS3 is being weird and can't watch videos at the moment because I was going to post the time the scene starts.

 

But here is the link and you need to watch the last 30 min of it. This may seem illegal in some countries but you can watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind for free on Crackle.com or the Crackle App on PS3. Not sure if PS4 has it yet.

 

But here:

http://putlocker.is/watch-close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-online-free-putlocker.html

 

Now if this gives ideas about the Mt chiliad Mystery because I see alot of connections here. I think this may lead to steps of Fort Zancudo even.

 

Air Base, Ufo's, A mountain, Notes we got by update. This could be a trigger on Mt Zancudo instead of Chiliad?

 

Well Enjoy. Btw Sony owns this movie and it's free on Crackle.com by Sony so it's 100% Legal. Enjoy

 

Note this is research for the Mystery so no harm mods.

 

Hi, this theory was discussed many weeks ago. It is impossible to re-produce the 5 tones needed in single player. Even in multi-player with 5 players attempting it is not possible to reproduce the tones exactly as in the movie.

Edited June 16, 2014 by Slate Mc

[Ungreth]

Devil's Advocate but, "robbing" something back that was your's to begin with which was stolen from you is what karma is all about.

 

What comes around goes around. On the surface, face value, it seems like a bad thing but, is it really?

 

 

as for the Karma/symbolic/metaphoric stuff... It's there and was put in the game on purpose. whether it has anything to do with any game mechanics to be figured out is up in the air still, though. It's meant to be seen and understood but, that might be as far as it goes, unfortunately. I wish i could find something more to do with it as of right now but, it's hard with less than a handful of people working together on that part of the game as opposed to thousands looking at the Chiliad Mural/Mystery.

 

I think what we have come up with so far is beyond any type of reasonable expectation for such a small think tank. this type of symbolic/karma related stuff usually draws the... don't take this the wrong way guys but, usually attracts the more intuitive personalities that want to find answers instead of just having them explained to them outright.

 

 

See, that's my issue...if accepting the hypothesis that a certain type of karma playthrough will "unlock" some reward then what constitutes good and bad karma in such a mechanic seems so vague and subject to individual perspective it makes the likelihood of hitting that sweet spot a truly daunting task. How do you know if your playthrough is really going the right way when any desicion you made may have been the "wrong" one? What indicators do we have in-game that we are on the right track? None as far as I can tell, unless you count ped responses, but these change based on your recent actions and not the sum of your overall actions. It could take a hundred playthroughs before you get it right, and if others are to be believed then they have already completed what they considered "good" or "bad" karma playthroughs yet they report that little to nothing has changed post game.

 

Unless karma can somehow be redeemed via post story actions than I don't want to believe that R* have made the mystery to be solved by following a karma path, because that's way too much trial and error to sit comfortably with me. I would much prefer to believe that anyone with a 100% save can solve this by following the clues we are presented with, no matter what they have done through their time in the game.

If the game gave some form of clear indication that an action was good or bad, like in Red Dead, I would be much more inclined to experiment with a karma playthrough, but it seems like we're wildly stabbing in the dark without some form of karma "meter" to guide us.

[Ungreth]

so an "A", eye or a spaceship?

the three are correct, but look for symbolisms.

use your right brain, take your spaceflight...

see and interpret the others "eye"

 

Eureka! We need to light up a barbeque under the Up N Atom rocket!

 

Or maybe not...

Edited June 16, 2014 by Ungreth