GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

I keep up on most of the major forums for GTAV and there has been no theories put forth recently that are not from new people stating old ideas over and over again, BESIDES the Cargo Cult idea.

Really? I think it's an interesting idea too.

 

Anyway, I'm still trying to think of a way to use the cargo cult idea to actually do something in-game. It makes some sense as an explanation for the Altruists' lifestyle. Maybe (and this is pure speculation) it was one of the cultural or historical references that GTAV's writers had in mind when they designed that cult. It sure connects to the wild theories that we've had about the Altruists--crates, cargo, planes, etc. But what can we do with that idea?

 

I guess that's why I keep trying to perform weird stunts with these jets, both near the Altruist camp and, today, around LSIA.

 

I've discovered that the LSIA jets have some of the same weird characteristics as the Altruist jets. I just spent another hour trying to land my Vestra on top of jets circling the airport. Again, I didn't succeed, but I did find that the jets respond in a strange way when I bump into them.

 

I did this four different times, to four different passenger jets: I flew my Vestra right above the jet, matched speed, direction, and angle, dropped my landing gear, and then tried to carefully land on top. Each time I was only able to bump or scrape against part of the passenger jet. Sometimes my wheels hit, and sometimes my wing hit. But if I hit it just right, Michael would say something, and then the passenger jet would just... give up.

 

I can't think of another way to describe it. Even though there was no serious damage to my Vestra or the passenger jet, after I bumped into it, the jet would angle downwards and head toward the ground. Two of these four jets dove toward in the shallow water just west of the southwest tip of the airport. One headed for the beach west/northwest of the airport. And one went into the ocean south of the airport.

 

None of them exploded when they hit the surface. They all simply flew through the map. It was the same thing that I saw with the Altruist jets. (Except this time I didn't shoot them or cause any visible damage.) It seemed like the AI of the passenger jets simply 'turned off' once I bumped them off course. It was probably just some kind of glitch or programming error, but it looked very strange.

 

I am still trying to find actual flying cargo jets though...

[Razgriz67]

@SMB

Can you try and get en exact quote? Also try and get one for F and T?

 

Not sure if it's because I really like planes, or if I liked GTA SA too much or that mission a little much.

 

But you sparked the memory in GTA SA where you have to hijack a private jet

[WillyDope]

Just an FYI, the girl in blue is model/actress and former Miss America contestant Kate Upton from her famous Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition spread that occured before GTAV release, so im sure they just drew inspriation from that for the artwork of the girl in red.

 

Ive always just looked at it as something to show San Andreas (California) life (Beaches, beautiful women in bikini's)

 

Not to ish on your theory, but this wouldnt be the first GTA to include people on load screens who arent in the final game

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

@ razgriz67

 

Well I just bumped into another LSIA jet (which also fell into the ocean and went right through the water--that must be my 5th or 6th one so far) and I think Michael said "Oh, sh-t!" Lol.

 

They're basically the same sort of things that Michael says when he hits a car on the road. He hasn't said anything that I haven't heard before.

 

I haven't tried everything with F and T at LSIA yet. I only used M because he was convenient.

 

 

But you sparked the memory in GTA SA where you have to hijack a private jet

I think I just saw a small jet. I was somewhere around the middle of the map, flying north or northwest towards Zancudo, and I heard another plane. When I looked around I saw (what looked like) a private jet pass me. It was flying from West to East. I turned around and tried to chase it, but it was much faster than my Vestra, so I couldn't catch up to it or get a good look. I'm not sure, but I don't think it was one of the passenger jets. It looked small, it looked black, and it was faster than me.

 

In case you're wondering, it was definitely not the Zancudo UFO (lol). I was still south of Zancudo, it was moving, and it was way too low. I don't think it was the Altruist jet either because, again, wrong location, and it was too fast. I think it was just a private jet but I'm not sure.

 

FYI I think altitude is the key to get NPC jets to spawn in the air. Like I've said before, they always spawn at about one bar below the middle mark on the altimeter.

 

I'm still flying around. I just traced the path of one of the jets as it circled LSIA, and it was definitely flying in a figure-8 pattern. I'm going to go back and investigate the center point of that 8 later.

[Razgriz67]

Hmm that's odd last I checked both private jets (shamal and Luxor) are 3rd in line for faster flyable plane just behind the Vestra and Lazer

[Bimpy69]

Tbh guys the thing about rockstar saying someone has figured out the mystery could well be true but they may have been asked to keep it to themselves for some sort of reward

[XMarqstheSpot]

@SMB. Spawning the Jets: altitude yes but, more about spinning the camera so it doesn't spawn right in front of you. Just look away real quick and then look back for them to spawn if you know your in the right area. I have almost run into the Altruist Jet many times because of quickly spinning the camera too close to it's spawn area. many close calls and near collisions.

 

And regardless of if R* really said anything to anybody about anything, the Cargo Cult idea still seems to be one of the best leads as of yet. we just need to figure out the sequence of events, IMHO.

 

I still am having trouble obtaining a Cargobob so if anyone wants to try and drop some crates to the Altruists, be my guest.

Tbh guys the thing about rockstar saying someone has figured out the mystery could well be true but they may have been asked to keep it to themselves for some sort of reward

the guy in the video didn't say someone figured it out, he just said that an R* employee said that all the info needed had been found. Just has not been put together correctly and/or done in correct sequence as of yet. I don't think it was implied that it has been solved by anyone yet.

[paulmgrath]

i thought the girl in red bikini was Tracy, when i first got the game i tried recreating that image but the skyscrapers and wheel arnt at the same angles/location in game as the picture will try again later

[Darthwill]

New GTA V leaked Info about the Mt Chiliad Mystery.

R* will add new stuff in the coming months and Story DLC.

 

This seems very legit because the leaker gave me info about Yoga Partners in Story DLC. I believe this is very true because the Alien symbols have positions you can't currently do. The Hippy Camp and Two Silos will have Yoga areas in the future.

 

R* will include all this in both current and Next Gen versions due to ppl already expecting Story DLC for current Gen.

 

R* will not abandon Current Gen just yet, So even though Next Gen has stuff that current gen won't have. Both will have Story DLC.

 

This seems very reasonable info and I believe it to be true.

Sadly though it can be hard to tell because R* has alot to do and things could be delayed. I'm sure all of this will be out before 2015 because current gen has 2 to 5 years before completely gone as in no more stuff added or games. Even systems will no longer be manufactured.

[Razgriz67]

@Darthwill

 

would like too see your talks with your source or be able to talk to him/her, if not I'm not gonna bother believing whatever you post.

 

Mainly cuse those unable-to-do yoga symbols are the hints that s*x can also effect the weather thus resulting in seeing the Chiliad UFO. And until shown proof otherwise that's exactly what those symbols mean

[XMarqstheSpot]

New GTA V leaked Info about the Mt Chiliad Mystery.

R* will add new stuff in the coming months and Story DLC.

 

This seems very legit because the leaker gave me info about Yoga Partners in Story DLC. I believe this is very true because the Alien symbols have positions you can't currently do. The Hippy Camp and Two Silos will have Yoga areas in the future.

 

R* will include all this in both current and Next Gen versions due to ppl already expecting Story DLC for current Gen.

 

R* will not abandon Current Gen just yet, So even though Next Gen has stuff that current gen won't have. Both will have Story DLC.

 

This seems very reasonable info and I believe it to be true.

Sadly though it can be hard to tell because R* has alot to do and things could be delayed. I'm sure all of this will be out before 2015 because current gen has 2 to 5 years before completely gone as in no more stuff added or games. Even systems will no longer be manufactured.

Where is the part about the Mystery? all i see is speculative information about DLC? I don't even see the link between the Chiliad Mystery and Yoga. I mean, of course it's there but adding some Yoga doesn't mean it has anything to do with Chiliad. It's probably competitive yoga for MP anyways.

@Darthwill

 

would like too see your talks with your source or be able to talk to him/her, if not I'm not gonna bother believing whatever you post.

 

Mainly cuse those unable-to-do yoga symbols are the hints that s*x can also effect the weather thus resulting in seeing the Chiliad UFO. And until shown proof otherwise that's exactly what those symbols mean

I thought this was the general accepted answer for the yoga Partner Paintings. Is this actually not on many people's radar?

[god level2]

UC559 had my exact solution to the mystery that i posted here and you guys didn't listen to me

 

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[XMarqstheSpot]

UC559 had my exact solution to the mystery that i posted here and you guys didn't listen to me

 

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Ok, and that is the exact solution that everybody first goes with. This is not something new so... ? If you figured it out then your late to the party because we all figured that solution months ago.

 

"You guys didn't listen to me"... because it gets old after the millionth person bringing forth this "New" explanation of things.

Edited June 14, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[Darthwill]

Well no hard feelings about leaks as we had plenty of those in the past. I'm skeptical about this leaker myself. I can say he isn't from Youtube, Reddit, GTA Forums, GameFaqs or NeoSeeker.

 

The leaker is not B even. Oh, Shoot! Speaking of PC version he might be coming back. But the leaker isn't even a member or past member of these forums so no worries there.

 

I can't give info out about him. He can get into big trouble and so can I. I'm going off topic I know, But I was excited to tell you guys this and got info to spill the beans about that. I most likely won't say anymore until the facts start coming in. As in a Story DLC trailer. If it doesn't happen this month like the leaker said, I would go against him/her. But Next Gen Trailer was unexpected this early so Story DLC trailer being delayed into the summer is fine with me.

 

All I can say is you can take this with a grain of salt if you want but we'll see in time for sure.

[liquid1912]

New GTA V leaked Info about the Mt Chiliad Mystery.

R* will add new stuff in the coming months and Story DLC.

 

This seems very legit because the leaker gave me info about Yoga Partners in Story DLC. I believe this is very true because the Alien symbols have positions you can't currently do. The Hippy Camp and Two Silos will have Yoga areas in the future.

 

R* will include all this in both current and Next Gen versions due to ppl already expecting Story DLC for current Gen.

 

R* will not abandon Current Gen just yet, So even though Next Gen has stuff that current gen won't have. Both will have Story DLC.

 

This seems very reasonable info and I believe it to be true.

Sadly though it can be hard to tell because R* has alot to do and things could be delayed. I'm sure all of this will be out before 2015 because current gen has 2 to 5 years before completely gone as in no more stuff added or games. Even systems will no longer be manufactured.

Does that include PSN severs going inactive on the PS3?

[auntjeff]

UC559 had my exact solution to the mystery that i posted here and you guys didn't listen to me

 

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Why does he say....."we've figured out that we need to be here when it's raining and thundering at 3am...."

Edited June 14, 2014 by auntjeff

[TirkaneX]

About the ps4 release:

 

"Koller: ...GTA is a PlayStation franchise. It started with us. We really feel strongly that it belongs as a key platform driver for us."

Kotaku: You're saying that you can't say what it is, but that there will be something special for PlayStation owners?

Koller: GTA V is going to be, I think, a title we'll talk about more in the weeks and months to come, but GTA V and the GTA franchise is something that will be something very special on PlayStation."

 

 

Mural and glyphs:

1-Ps1=Cd

2-Ps2=Dvd

3-Ps3=Blueray

4-psp=Umd

5-All=Optical lazer

 

Available on ps3:

 

1-GTA:III=Ps2

2-GTA;VC=Ps2

3-GTA:SA=Ps2

4-GTA:LCS=Psp;ps2

5-GTA:VCS=Psp;ps2

6-GTA:IV=Ps3

*[GTA:EFLC=Ps3(stand-alone)>not sure if this one must be on the list]

8-GTA:V=Ps3

*[GTAO=Ps3>not sure if this one must be on the list]

 

*One of both must be on this list.

 

 

Missing:

 

GTA1=ps1(LC;VC;SA)

GTA2=ps1(Set in 2013)

 

5 "X"s, 2 "deadends", 3 symbols

19 lines at the bottom

7 complete lightning bolts(including a inverted one), 1 almost finished, 2 barely apparent.

1 "mount"

1 Symbol above it.

Edited June 14, 2014 by TirkaneX

[XMarqstheSpot]

Well no hard feelings about leaks as we had plenty of those in the past. I'm skeptical about this leaker myself. I can say he isn't from Youtube, Reddit, GTA Forums, GameFaqs or NeoSeeker.

 

The leaker is not B even. Oh, Shoot! Speaking of PC version he might be coming back. But the leaker isn't even a member or past member of these forums so no worries there.

 

I can't give info out about him. He can get into big trouble and so can I. I'm going off topic I know, But I was excited to tell you guys this and got info to spill the beans about that. I most likely won't say anymore until the facts start coming in. As in a Story DLC trailer. If it doesn't happen this month like the leaker said, I would go against him/her. But Next Gen Trailer was unexpected this early so Story DLC trailer being delayed into the summer is fine with me.

 

All I can say is you can take this with a grain of salt if you want but we'll see in time for sure.

How could you get into big trouble? The faking of "Danger", It's a common technique by people making stuff up with no ability to prove anything. Just make it sound sexier instead of offering proof.

 

I learned this by doing actual research on the clues that GTA V provides us, ironically.

 

 

Why even say anything if you can't/won't offer any proof? because it's an attention and fame thing. Was your favorite Character Michael by any chance?

[XMarqstheSpot]

About the ps4 release:

 

Ok but, what about the PC versions? It didn't exactly start on Playstation as the guy says. If it started on 4 platforms then that's where it started and if they are acting like the PC version wasn't the bigger, more advertised, more popular version at the time then they are fooling themselves. The PS1 version almost nobody knew about, it was all about PC back then because that's how the industry was.

 

I totally see what you got going here, Tirk, and it makes sense but, i also feel like it's not being completely transparent.(not to your fault)

Edited June 14, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[Wanderer800]

What about GTA London 1969?

Edited June 14, 2014 by Wanderer800

[TirkaneX]

Yes of course, but we talk about console history and history between Gta on console and R*. Koller hasn't insist on this point randomly.

 

1961 only on dos

1969:expansion for gta 1 on ps1

 

To be clear, I think this mural, as a mural, tells the story of the Relationship between Rockstar and Playstation, the ordering of games to understand the GTA universe, and maybe, the possibility, to play to GTA1 and/or GTA2 in GTAV.

Edited June 14, 2014 by TirkaneX

[XMarqstheSpot]

Few things i found while going over the language files again.

 

 

CUFF KEYS. (Nobody figured how to get these from the police station yet?)

Badger shares drop - time to cell? (spelling of sell/cell?)

(Jimmy) Load: "Moon base"

(Jimmy) Load: "cptestbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "vfx_test"

(Jimmy) Load: "Alpine"

(Jimmy) Load: "nettestbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "Waterbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "gta5"

(Jimmy) Load: "gta4"

(Jimmy) Load: "codetest"

(Jimmy) Load: "Underwater"

(Jimmy) Load: "Desert"

(Jimmy) Load: "anim_test"

(Jimmy) Load: "Space station"

 

You completed the Epsilon program and achieved inner peace. (I don't remember ever seeing this after doing the final mission and/or collecting all the tract's. am i just forgetting?)

 

 

And the biggest find.... Story complete!. How the F dow we do this?!

[liquid1912]

Few things i found while going over the language files again.

 

 

CUFF KEYS. (Nobody figured how to get these from the police station yet?)

Badger shares drop - time to cell? (spelling of sell/cell?)

(Jimmy) Load: "Moon base"

(Jimmy) Load: "cptestbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "vfx_test"

(Jimmy) Load: "Alpine"

(Jimmy) Load: "nettestbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "Waterbed"

(Jimmy) Load: "gta5"

(Jimmy) Load: "gta4"

(Jimmy) Load: "codetest"

(Jimmy) Load: "Underwater"

(Jimmy) Load: "Desert"

(Jimmy) Load: "anim_test"

(Jimmy) Load: "Space station"

 

You completed the Epsilon program and achieved inner peace. (I don't remember ever seeing this after doing the final mission and/or collecting all the tract's. am i just forgetting?)

 

 

And the biggest find.... Story complete!. How the F dow we do this?!

in English doc...

[TirkaneX]

@X

 

>http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1pw83o/jimmy_game_file_code/

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

I checked both private jets (shamal and Luxor) are 3rd in line for faster flyable plane just behind the Vestra and Lazer

Yeah. Like I said, I don't know what that thing was. But it didn't look as big as a passenger jet and I couldn't catch up to it in a Vestra.

 

 

Spawning the Jets: altitude yes but, more about spinning the camera so it doesn't spawn right in front of you. Just look away real quick and then look back for them to spawn if you know your in the right area.

I've never seen one spawn right in front of me. If I'm at the right altitude, they usually spawn right behind me, very close but out of view.

 

I do move the camera around slowly (or switch between looking forward and backward with the R stick button) while waiting for one to appear. "Spinning" the camera doesn't really work for me though. I think you need to hold the camera in one direction for a few seconds, and then the jet will spawn out-of-view. I always hear them before I see them.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Tirk, good find on the (Jimmy) stuff. too bad we don't know what it's all for though.

 

So, it's possible to complete the story since there is a "Story Complete!" line in the files. I figured somebody would have noticed this dialogue pop up after the final mission by now? So if we are not all just overlooking the prompt, then wtf?

 

inb4 removed, it's going to be DLC!

[XMarqstheSpot]

Chapter 5 verse 2<BR>The mark of Kraff adorns many who are blessed. Some descendants of Kraff have a mark of birth that adorns the elbow, or buttocks, but he who has the stain of wine on his head or face – they drink with Kraff in the 4th Paradigm.

 

Red hair and Freckles.

 

Considering the ped's involved in the random events, such as stealing a bike or purse are all randomly generated BUT, seems to be a higher chance of having red hair... could there not be a definitive way to do them? Random red hair ones have to be let free and since it's random we can't pinpoint certainties?

 

 

Or, Jimmy has something we need.

 

EDIT: In this 9th it is within the being form – that is the red, and he with red and of red in the hair form is not of Kraff and he is the embodiment of that which is Unsaveable.

 

WTF? is red hair good or bad?

Edited June 14, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[socrates75]

Yes of course, but we talk about console history and history between Gta on console and R*. Koller hasn't insist on this point randomly.

 

1961 only on dos

1969:expansion for gta 1 on ps1

 

To be clear, I think this mural, as a mural, tells the story of the Relationship between Rockstar and Playstation, the ordering of games to understand the GTA universe, and maybe, the possibility, to play to GTA1 and/or GTA2 in GTAV.

.........You sir have peeked my interest, In gta 1 and 2 it was a top down view....sort of like when we switch between players, top down view, would it be even better then playing gta 1 or 2 if instead we got to play gta 5 top down view?

[TirkaneX]

As I don't know to wich game the inverted lightningbolt is referring, and wich game the line at the bottom who finish by a hook is referring, I don't know what's the concrete application of all of this.

But these two elements belong to a group of multiple other similar elements. Maybe there's a R* games which is clearly a reference to a Lightning Bolt and another game a reference to a hook or cane or whatever else.

Clues to another games to find what to do in this one.

Another interesting point:

8 lightning bolts( we can see clearly 8, not 10)
1 red symbol
5 Xs
3 symbols
19 lines
=
36


Rockstar Games( only on Playstation, I've not kept the different PS games portage on other PS supports)

 

 

Rockstar Games logo
The Rockstar Games label was founded in 1998 to create the most innovative and progressive interactive entertainment. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. The company was established by founders Sam Houser, Terry Donovan, Dan Houser, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman.
Company Info
Website:
http://www.rockstargames.com/
List of Rockstar Games
Title
Platform
Release Date

1-Beaterator
PSP
September 29, 2009

2-Bully
PS2
October 17, 2006

3-Grand Theft Auto
PS

4-Grand Theft Auto II
PS
October 22, 1999

5-Grand Theft Auto III
PS2
October 22, 2001

6-Grand Theft Auto IV
PS3
April 29, 2008

7-Grand Theft Auto Online
PS3
October 1, 2013

8-Grand Theft Auto V
PS3
September 17, 2013

9-Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City
PS3
April 13, 2010

10-Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
PSP
October 24, 2005

11-Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
PS2
October 25, 2004

12-Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
PS2
October 29, 2002

13-Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
PSP
October 30, 2006

14-L.A. Noire
PS3
May 17, 2011

15-Manhunt
PS2
November 19, 2003

16-Manhunt 2
PS2
October 29, 2007

17-Max Payne
PS2

18-Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
PS2
December 3, 2003

19-Max Payne 3
PS3
May 15, 2012

20-Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition
PS2
April 12, 2005

21-Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition Remix
PS2
March 13, 2006

22-Midnight Club II
PS2
April 8, 2003

23-Midnight Club: L.A. Remix
PSP
October 20, 2008

24-Midnight Club: Los Angeles
PS3
October 20, 2008

25-Midnight Club: Los Angeles -- South Central
PS3
March 19, 2009

26-Midnight Club: Street Racing
PS2
October 16, 2000

27-Oni
PS2
January 29, 2001

28-Red Dead Redemption
PS3
June 22, 2010

29-Red Dead Revolver
PS2

30-Smuggler's Run
PS2
October 16, 2000

31-Smuggler's Run 2: Hostile Territory
PS2
October 29, 2001

32-State of Emergency
PS2
February 12, 2002

33-Surfing H3O
PS2
October 26, 2000

34-The Italian Job
PS
April 29, 2002

35-The Warriors
PS2
October 17, 2005

36-Thrasher: Skate and Destroy
PS
November 1999

 

=36

 

Edited June 14, 2014 by TirkaneX

[liquid1912]

Could it be possible there is a way we could get 101%? Maybe it would be required? Just a thought don't know if its come up.