GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[trevors toe nail]

@slate you misread my humour (I KNOW FFS) edit:thanks the holy one

Edited June 13, 2014 by trevors toe nail

[Eram]

@TTN - Nice that you're back .

Yeah you are correct, but this was due to the wtf building being close to the 0,0,0 x,y,z coordinates and they've never found other egg coordinates either than 0,0,0 - hence why it also lead them to think that it was moving, if ingame. Maybe Glokon (the map God), Reoze or Tadd will shoot me down on this one but I think I'm not mistaken, though this was mentioned long ago and I didn't bother to track it again

Edited June 13, 2014 by EramVerdes

[Slate Mc]

@slate you misread my humour (I KNOW FFS) edit:thanks the holy one

hey at this time of night i'm surprised I even read it never mind misread it ! No worries bro

[trevors toe nail]

@Eram I once had the idea that it my be in one of the trucks(flatbeds) that drive around FZ but never followed it up but thanks re-jogging my memory.

Edited June 13, 2014 by trevors toe nail

[auntjeff]

Look a red arrow below the Maze Arena alien head! lol!

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/YSPLbQ6.jpg

 

[XMarqstheSpot]

something i mentioned in another thread just now and might be relevant to some or maybe trigger an idea in someone that could help...

 

Michael chose "Option A", Kill Trevor and let Brad live.

 

As Franklin, are we supposed to...

"Get it right" by killing T?

"Learn from mistakes" and choose Friend's over Self?

"Cut our losses" by killing M, the guy who created the whole mess by initially choosing Option A?(IMHO, M would do it all again to T and F to save himself, so a snake must be killed, right?)

 

 

I don't know, just thought i'd mention it since i haven't heard anyone else make the comparison of M's choice and F's choice at the end of the game.

 

EDIT: We learn through playing the game how M's choice had consequences on pretty much everything. so at the end, after seeing how his choice effect's his life and everyone;s life around him, including T, what is the real option for Franklin to choose? what does Franklin truly want with HIS life and what losses would he have to cut to get there?

 

Also, during the "Lamar Down" mission Tanisha and Lamar make numerous references to Franklin being Illuminati now that he's moved on from the hood. The Illuminati are "The Illuminated", they are living in the light. Not a NWO as some would think but an NWO none the less. Is Franklin Illuminati material though? would Franklin cut his losses and break off relationships with friends(Lamar) that are holding him down? Or is he able to be manipulated and guilt tripped easily?

Edited June 13, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[trevors toe nail]

I think they done as to both of them deserved to die so its a bit of a moral dilemma but I see were your going with this ,what did F do wrong in his path to get where he is ?edit: F done a lot of dirt to get where he is he turned his back on his roots to climb the ladder so he's deffo illuminati material.edit2: he even contributed to tanya and jc's crack habit by earning them the money they needed

Edited June 13, 2014 by trevors toe nail

[oh shite its x]

first of all id like to say dont give up on this thread/hunt. you guys put in too much work to just say "f*ck it it will be in next gen/dlc".

 

 

as far as ideas, if something is hidden in gtao exclusively has anyone tried using the added horn mods (the ones that are single notes) and tried to trigger something with these notes? ala close encounters of the third kind? just an idea

 

 

also @xmarqs im sure it was said way back but if people were looking to justify killing M i always think of the mission where M is in the meat packing plant and if stay on him and dont switch to F michael says something like "i can give you phillips" more than willing to give up his friends for himself

Edited June 13, 2014 by oh shite its x

[god level2]

first of all id like to say dont give up on this thread/hunt. you guys put in too much work to just say "f*ck it it will be in next gen/dlc".

 

 

as far as ideas, if something is hidden in gtao exclusively has anyone tried using the added horn mods (the ones that are single notes) and tried to trigger something with these notes? ala close encounters of the third kind? just an idea

 

 

also @xmarqs im sure it was said way back but if people were looking to justify killing M i always think of the mission where M is in the meat packing plant and if stay on him and dont switch to F michael says something like "i can give you phillips" more than willing to give up his friends for himself

 

f*ck it it will be in next gen/dlc

[Darthwill]

The sad news I have is I'll probably lose my internet tomorrow for somethings that came up.

 

But from the new trailer in GTA V for PS4/Next Gen.

 

Trevor woke up in a Daisy/Flower bed. Is that part of the character transition cutscenes? Because I've never seen it before. If it isn't you would think It is an In Game Cutscene of somekind and the Sun is rising up screams R* might have put a Cutscene for Mt Chiliad.

 

The Altruist Camp even has a Picture of it. What if it is a step by step trigger to the cutscene we were looking for the whole time?

 

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

[jp9865]

In the ending where you kill Michael he even says about Trevor "me and you roll on him together" (or something along those lines) he sells Trevor out right until the very end. Even in the ending where you kill Trevor you see Michaels true feelings towards him. He doesn't give a f*ck. He isn't loyal to anyone. "The only thing that matters is surviving" (or something like that again)

 

However having played out all possible ending scenario's the only one that feels right is deathwish.

In "the time's come"

To be honest I actually felt for Michael. Some of the things he said to Franklin where so true. "I brought you into my family" "I gave you everything kid" (again I paraphrasing! )

And in "something sensible"

It just didn't feel right as Franklin killing Trevor. Trevor had done nothing wrong to him. He was honest and loyal to Franklin the whole time. He even gave his aunt 7 dollars!

 

So for me anyway, these 2 endings just didn't feel right.

[Darthwill]

If you don't get what I mean Trevor's place is at Gordo as well.

Hippy Camp leads to Mt Gordo.

Micheal has Yoga on Mt Gordo.

Franklin and Ursela also must have a connections to Mt Gordo.

You got a Lighthouse, and Islands there which makes great for Fog weather with a Ghost Even.

Now these files from the Altruist Camp show Sun and Flowers.

http://i.imgur.com/B5Yko86.png

Trevor wakes up on Gordo from a possible Cutscene with flowers and Sun Risen.

I believe that Mt Chiliad has unlock requirements.

In the mural it has lines everywhere like a puzzle.

I believe the first Box before the UFO is 100% to see the UFO's

After is 3 lines representing 3 Characters to unlock the Alien Egg which can be unlocked on Mt Gordo.

After the Egg is solved It will most likely lead us to the Jetpack.

So UFO's First, Then Egg and Jetpack. Thanks to that new trailer it sheds new light on the mystery.

[Wanderer800]

The writing on the platform on top of Chiliad states, "come back when your story is complete. "

Gta iv says, "loading, Story Complete," after completing all story missions. No mention of "come back when 100% complete. " 100% = wild goose chase?

Edited June 13, 2014 by Wanderer800

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

Following-up from my last few posts about the jets at the Altruist camp, here are my results from some tests with the jets at LSIA. Cakelover21 made an interesting suggestion the other day, and I'll explain what happened when I tried it. But first, a couple of brief quotations to put this in context:

 

 

 

Right, from what I've seen (many tests in game), the Altruist jet flies straight over the Alamo Sea, over the Humane Labs, and over the east ocean. [...] At a certain point your plane will suddenly fall apart in the air, and your character will fall out of the plane, and eventually land in the water (and die, lol). The Altruist jet, however, keeps flying in the same straight line. [...] Do the jets from LSIA hit the 'wall' and crash or sink into the ocean at some point? Could you tell us more about that?

Yup, after a while they will hit the invisible wall and sink. I have notice by zooming in with the sniper that they have peds in them. So mabye peds sink vehicles but gohst vehicles dont? What im trying to say is that the Altruist Jet might be a ghost plane and because of that it doesn't sink? Now im the one creation theories lol. This really has to be investigated more. Mabye try to shoot it down and see if it has a ped in it? I can't do it myself right now. I have other stuff to do, but let's try to keep it on topic and stop talking about my life.

I finally got around to testing things with jets at LSIA. I tried a few days ago, but no jets spawned at all. When I tried today, the jets did spawn. So I followed three different jets around LSIA. I used Michael in a Vestra.

 

I found the first jet at one bar below the middle mark on the altimeter. (All three jets flew at roughly the same altitude. That's the same altitude that the Altruist jets spawn at.) When I spotted this first one it was flying straight, almost due South (slightly Southwest). It was going really fast, but I was able to keep up with it at full speed in the Vestra. It kept flying straight, and I kept following it. It went so far that my blue location arrow/marker disappeared off the bottom edge of the map. It kept going, I kept following. Eventually, my plane hit the map 'wall' and started to fall apart, but the passenger jet kept flying straight and never crashed. I jumped out of my plane, my parachute disappeared, and I died the instant I hit the water.

 

The second LSIA jet was flying in a counter-clockwise oval above the airport. It never straightened out or changed course, and it was flying really slowly, so I had to keep turning the Vestra engines off and on, off and on, so that I didn't pass it. In fact it was flying so slow that, after a few circles around the airport, I decided to try to get into it. I bumped my Vestra into the jet (on top of the right wing). My Vestra didn't explode but the wing broke off, and I tried to jump out of the cockpit and get onto the passenger jet's wing, but I timed it poorly, so I slipped off and fell.

 

The third LSIA jet flew in a really weird pattern. It was doing a clockwise circle for a while, but then it turned really quickly, gained altitude, and started going counter-clockwise. After a while it turned and started going clockwise again. I thought it was flying in a figure-8 pattern. I tried to put POI markers down at each turn as I followed this 3rd jet, but the POI markers stopped working. (That is one bug that Rockstar really needs to fix...) This jet and the first jet were strange because they seemed to be circling the airport to land, but neither one ever tried to land.

 

Anyway, following the 3rd jet, after a few passes above the airport, just when we were flying past the southwest corner of LSIA (right below the hangar that has Michael's planes), the passenger jet flattened out, quickly gained a lot of speed, and started flying directly West. It kept flying straight West. I followed it as far as I could, but when my blue arrow hit the left edge of the map (also the left edge of my TV), my Vestra fell apart again, and I jumped out. I watched the LSIA jet as long as I could, and it kept flying West, and continued past the edge of the map without crashing or falling.

 

A couple of days ago Cakelover21 said ( http://gtaforums.com/topic/671832-grand-theft-auto-v-mystery-hunt/?p=1065570010 ) that the LSIA passenger jets "will hit the invisible wall and sink." Well, I just watched two LSIA jets fly past that wall, and neither one stopped, hit, or sank at all. They were just like the jet that spawns near the Altruist camp. They kept flying straight off the map. I think Cakelover21 was mistaken about these jets hitting the map wall.

 

I haven't tried shooting down any jets at LSIA yet. The ones that keep circling above the airport fly really slowly, so I can probably catch them with a Buzzard. That's what I'll try next.

 

EDIT:

I took a Buzzard up and shot down one of the LSIA jets circling the airport. It didn't do anything special. It started rolling, fell into the ocean and, just like the Altruist jets, fell through the surface of the water. There was no impact.

Then I tried again to jump out of a Vestra and somehow get inside one of those flying LSIA jets, but my Vestra bumped the jet and exploded.

(Also, as a test, I landed a Buzzard on top of a blimp and tried to get into the blimp, but I couldn't. It wouldn't let me in. I thought this was possible a few months ago... Was it patched?)

Finally I followed one more jet by the airport. It was also flying in a straight line, but this time it went West/Northwest. I followed it to the ocean but didn't bother going to the edge of the map.

That's all for now...

Edited June 13, 2014 by SuperMaruoBrassiere

[TirkaneX]

Thanks X,

 

MazeBank and 3 other companies are no longer in the red. I hope it wiil be in my interest

[Sussus Amongus]

@SuperMaruo

 

That's strange. They all fell in the ocean for me...well i was following them in a lazer so i might have accidentally shot it with the canon and eventually it crashed? Im going to test more with them without using an armed aircraft and see what happens. If i get the Altruist Jet to spawn im going to shoot it down to check out if it has a ped just incase.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Cakelover21

[XMarqstheSpot]

Thanks X,

 

MazeBank and 3 other companies are no longer in the red. I hope it wiil be in my interest

Hopefully. Tirk, you mentioned doing stock stuff for RedWood Cigarettes(Invest in the red) and i noticed yesterday that M follows RedWood on his LifeInvader page for some reason? forgot to check what the other two protags follow on their LifeInvader profile but, maybe these are what we have to invest in?

 

Just a thought.

 

EDIT: Forgot to say, IMHO and keeping withing the theme that R* is painting in the background of "Money is evil"... are they trying to train people/us on how to crash the stock market? The online interactions, the single player interactions, how you can cause a company to collapse by buying a bunch of stock, etc, etc.

 

The best way to teach is to make it fun and hide the actual learning behind games.

Edited June 13, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[Crimie]

I could be mistaken X, but doesnt Michael smoke a Redwood cigarette just before he catches Amanda cheating with the Tennis coach, he lights it up as he notices the tennis rackets looking like those blue and pink sex symbols. Could just be thats his cigarette of choice so they put it on his LI.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Yes, for sure it could be. Frankling follow's the "Feud" team which is a rival team of the Baller's favorite team the Badgers. go to the Feud LifeInvader page to see them beefing online.

 

Trevor follow's Ludendorf.

 

 

Off topic: Any way to save the Skylift in single player? i can only find online glitches for saving it, unfortunately.

[fragtime2k9]

just found this

 

http://de.socialclub.rockstargames.com/member/fragtime2k9/games/gtav/snapmatic/mostrecent/photo/l9u5HRib-ku-eBV3toF82g

[Sussus Amongus]

Yes, for sure it could be. Frankling follow's the "Feud" team which is a rival team of the Baller's favorite team the Badgers. go to the Feud LifeInvader page to see them beefing online.

 

Trevor follow's Ludendorf.

 

 

Off topic: Any way to save the Skylift in single player? i can only find online glitches for saving it, unfortunately.

You need to do the Heist Setup with the train cars for the Obvious approach for the UD heist. You will be able to fly it in the end. It's scripted to only work in the mission likein TBoGT and the JB700. You can just quicksave in the end.

[TirkaneX]

Do you remember how many times the Car Scrapyard property calls you for help? For me(if my memory is good) only one time. It's weird if we

 

considere how constantly the other properties call us.

[Synauron]

So this is my latest theory

Egg- mt Chilliad solve you to crack the egg and you'll see a ufo right?

where can you find that ufo? at the HC you go there and there is a view deck directly to mt chilliad and you can see two other mountains.

The ufo glyph represent the mt to the left the other the one to the right of mt chilliad. or inverted (not sure)

 

I'm away from the ps3 but what are the other two mountains and do they have anything in particular?

[socrates75]

Troll? http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/282zjj/mystery_solved_by_someone/

[god level2]

Troll? http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/282zjj/mystery_solved_by_someone/

 

most likley a hundred other people solved it then too

Edited June 13, 2014 by god level2

[Razgriz67]

Troll? http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/282zjj/mystery_solved_by_someone/

 

Seriously?

 

First of all, R* wouldn't even tell Liquid how to read the mural. So to say that R* confirmed anything is auto troll post IMO.

 

Secondly I can't Image anyone not wanting to try and take credit for solving this 8 month long mystery let alone to try and let the noobs on Next gen a chance at it

 

Hmm, I'm now a snitch wonder if that indicates anything

Edited June 13, 2014 by razgriz67

[socrates75]

Ya thats what i thought

[Slate Mc]

Found this image : http://gta5web.cz/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gta-5-kate-upon.jpg

 

Coincidence ? I think not. I am currently searching all of the beach areas for this girl. She is so prominent in the loading screens but no one since September has ever tried to seek her out. All of those chicks sunbathing on the beach and we just run or drive past them every time - we know we do. Am hunting for this girl in the red bikini if you want to help please post findings here. The fact she is holding a phone speaks volumes and can't be just coincidence. It could be the greatest break we have had for a while. The image of the girl in blue bikini is older than the GTA V image. So it was copied for a reason I think.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Slate Mc

[trevors toe nail]

Google image her and you will find lots of posters for her,in plain english she's just a model lol

[Synauron]

Google image her and you will find lots of posters for her,in plain english she's just a model lol

I think he's refering to the cartoon...

I don't know why that connection makes sense but... hm... the sky is blue I guess