GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[auntjeff]

@SuperMaruoBrassiere

 

There is a swimming pool I found that has a wall you can fall through, sometimes into a train tunnel, in which you then are in the tunnel but it is glitched out...you can exit tunnel, turn around and the tunnel is normal again.

 

 

Edit...been found already as I saw the video, sorry.

Edited May 29, 2014 by auntjeff

[bradygamesinc]

Mabey the choices are like bury the hatchet you can start it with m or t .

[jp9865]

@SMB

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/myphotos/photo/f4zBjLOeeUyrtevv4vab_A

 

3 rooftops all have the same thing. I walked up to the door and then climbed up into the roof! There's doors on both sides and it works on both. Except for one side on one roof! Randomly!

 

Also you can climb out and stand there as well so the collision detection is a bit strange.

Edited May 29, 2014 by jp9865

[JAPZYKAPITANZROYALZ]

gta 5 aalien

[bradygamesinc]

gta 5 aalien

can I post something from another story and fit it into gtav too.

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

@jp9865

 

Very interesting! I'll try it and see what happens.

How did you find this? (It's OK if you don't want to tell me!)

Anyway, thanks!

[jp9865]

I was hunting for false walls. Just checking roofs etc. It's weird how many there are. I didn't get a pic but there's a house (I think it's in chumash, I'll check later) if you walk up to the front door you will fall under the map. There's a gap that you can jump where you will land under the path but not fall under the map.

[Kohr-Ah]

What kraffrom is trying to explain is a difficult thing to put into words, honestly. I think I understand what he's saying, but even I might have a varying viewpoint on this situation.

 

From what I understand, kraffrom is saying that we're ignoring a simple truth that's been behind this mystery the entire time: That we, the players (the "eye" that's always behind our virtual character) created this entire mystery. Think of it as a biography in which someone else wrote about us without our true consent. Those who were involved in the "mysteries" of GTA SA, Vice City, and so forth are being recognized via the old mysteries being made a reality, and the various eyes in the game represent the actual players, or observers, if you will.

 

But why is the other eye always missing, then? Perhaps because the other eye is Rockstar, secretly out of the picture yet making things happen at the same time. Perhaps the initial paranoia that Rockstar is looming over these types of forums wasn't insane afterall. And, perhaps, these theories will eventually find their way into another Rockstar creation in the future.

 

Theoretically, we could be writing a whole new future "mystery" that others will dwell on in the future. But that's the best part about all of this, in my opinion.

[Chief theef]

Anyone else notice how when you go to the prison and look at the map the buildings have interior maps for them? I went under the map but it was empty. Do they have some specific triggers to make the interiors spawn or is this another myth/troll from R* made to keep us playing?

I think some interiors are triggered. As T, I re entered the upstairs of the liquor store in sandy shores, where Chef is, after the mission where u defend that building, and I noticed the upstairs wasn't visIble through the windows until I went I went to the interior and came out.

[Sussus Amongus]

Another thing that is weird is the dresses trev has in wardrobe. What is the reason for this becuase me personally as a guy never wear dresses.trev is crazy and all but why a dress when that costume plays no role in any side or main mission. Is the dress to wear to disguise us as a woman, an ugly woman, but woman none the less. Wonder where we could get into. Any have any thoughts on this or do you think there was a cross dressing mission where trev infiltrates a transvestite club and acts like them to assasinate a leader in their gorup?

There was a beta mission where M and T had to dress up as a gay couple. I don't think T would hqve used a dress tho.

[bradygamesinc]

You know if someone could post a list of beta missions and cut content I bet the theories would slow down. A link or something like how did you find that out about the gay couple. Seems to me like game was fully made and rockstar couldnt seperate it into 3 parts correctly. I bet when all dlc for story is done the mural will make sence and we will be able to get kyle slater as a contact.

Edited May 29, 2014 by bradygamesinc

[Awolspitfire]

I was hunting for false walls. Just checking roofs etc. It's weird how many there are. I didn't get a pic but there's a house (I think it's in chumash, I'll check later) if you walk up to the front door you will fall under the map. There's a gap that you can jump where you will land under the path but not fall under the map.

Sorry to derail this guys... Heists.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Awolspitfire

[jp9865]

 

I was hunting for false walls. Just checking roofs etc. It's weird how many there are. I didn't get a pic but there's a house (I think it's in chumash, I'll check later) if you walk up to the front door you will fall under the map. There's a gap that you can jump where you will land under the path but not fall under the map.

Sorry to derail this guys... Heists.

Ok. If that's what you think we are talking about.

[Awolspitfire]

Listen, I appreciate that I was arrogant and rash. However, I still believe there is more than a little something to my cloud observations. Step by step:

 

Go to the altruist camp. When you reach it, fight your way to the jetpack rock. Then, either wait there if it's almost time, or if not follow the mountain path to the left of the rock and go to the peak, which is safer for long periods of time. Now, follow the sun with your scope as it rises. You'll be on full zoom. As the sun passes behind a cloud at the centre of the sky, you'll see the mural faintly outlined in the clouds, the sun in the top box.

 

Now for something new. Place the jetpack symbol on the altruist camp, and the UFO on the hippy camp. Where does the egg fall? I'm not sure. Wherever it is, stand there and watch the sun rise. Just a theory.

 

 

I was hunting for false walls. Just checking roofs etc. It's weird how many there are. I didn't get a pic but there's a house (I think it's in chumash, I'll check later) if you walk up to the front door you will fall under the map. There's a gap that you can jump where you will land under the path but not fall under the map.

Sorry to derail this guys... Heists.

Ok. If that's what you think we are talking about.You misunderstand me; these buildings will likely be filled when heists are added.

[Razgriz67]

I would but no 1 notices trev in a dress

 

I've noticed Trevor in a green dress. It's a random spawn. Seen him on top of a mountain once drunk in a dress and recently I've seen him once or twice be kicked out of a store saying something to the effect of "I have a right to test out a product before a purchase"

 

has anyone tried taking 500k to the dock in multiplayer? i think maybe that would trigger something as on the bpm it says 'CASH' and in single all of your money is through maze bank, also i think this cause maybe the 500k that rockstar put into peoples account was specifically meant for doing this, hinting toiwards the ee?

 

Tried it once no luck.

 

Also the 500k online was a sorry for the sucky servers when GTAO first launched. Enough for the most expensive apartment and either a half decent car or a gun or two and all the ammo you could hold (which at the time for most it wasn't a lot)

Edited May 29, 2014 by razgriz67

[JAPZYKAPITANZROYALZ]

 

gta 5 aalien

can I post something from another story and fit it into gtav too.

 

yea, i have a new theory that goverment is bullsh*t for spy drones, and for some sumerian history of annunaki's. i think the goverment made all of that because of alien like human creatures... i listened to rons radio it explains somehow about trevor and what he needs to beleive and on chakra attack more likely michael on yoga and trevor's sex with ursula (ELF).

[mshea11514]

Not many posts from me. I've read them all tho. Traveling a lot for summer & starting a knowledge dump (after google search).

 

This for example:

 

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/games/gtav/snapmatic/photo/8DEurBDiy0KP4mhHPtLalA?platformId=1

 

Painting in Yellow Jack Inn. Looks like a anti-immigration/anti-alien "thing" ...

 

The print: http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artObjectDetails?artobj=1675

 

The man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel

 

The ***holes: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Charles_Martel_Society

 

Note - In the United States, the Charles Martel Society is a right-wing anti-immigration academic group."

 

Here's what Rockstar made me learn: (wiki)

 

The US "head" of the Charles Martel Society is William Regnery II. William Regnery II, son of Henry Regnery, Sr. and heir to the Regnery Publishing fortune, is one of the founders of the American fascist movement. Regnery is a "leading advocate of white supremacy and was a principal player in his father's company which published Swift Boat Vets John E. O'Neill and Jerome R. Corsi's Unfit for Command in a campaign smear against Senator John Kerry.[1]

 

Anything else? more to come...

[krafffrom9]

you are in the good way to understand, the missing eye is the one of the player who didn't see that he's the subject of all this

mans have always think by 4 (cardinals, elements ect...) the simple fact of presenting to him a triangle, can disrupt him

now you have to connect everything to see that every easter eggs are connected

 

against your logic

Edited May 29, 2014 by krafffrom9

[SuperMaruoBrassiere]

A few hours ago I asked about false walls and false doors in the game. jp9865 showed me a picture from a building in Little Seoul. I found that building.

 

There are three tall, nearly identical buildings in Little Seoul. The center building has a huge sign on the roof with letters that say KAYTON.

 

Here's a link to the GTA wiki for Kayton: http://gta.wikia.com/Kayton

 

I flew to the top of all three buildings with a Buzzard. Each building has a small structure on the roof. These rooftop structures each have two doors, one on the west/southwest side, and one on the east/northeast side.

 

If you walk up to the doors, you can climb up and through the door frames. You glitch through the roof, and you can walk around with the roof surface appearing at about chest height. It sort of looks like you're wading in a shallow pool of roof-coloured water. This works with the doors on both sides of all three buildings...

 

...EXCEPT for the top (northernmost) building. On that one, you can climb through the west-side door frame, but you cannot climb through the opposite, east-side door frame. The three building models seem to be almost identical, except for that one spot.

 

Anyway, nothing special happened when I went through the door frames on the roof. I also tried to crawl through the doors at the bottom of the buildings (at street level), but that didn't work.

 

This might be old news, but this is exactly the kind of thing I was asking about. I've seen this kind of glitch in other places in the game map, but I never knew it happened here.

 

Thanks, jp9865!

[Awolspitfire]

I'm installing a 100% save now. I'll have some more reports on clouds by this evening.

[Thelankymidget]

Sounds stupid but have we tried San Andreas for clues? May the secret lies in the past I mean rockstar knew this game was going to be made (gta v) but as I said it's only a suggestion but it's worth a shot.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Thelankymidget

[CanOdope]

I just installed it on my PC yesterday... I'll see what I can find. But I'd imagine that if there's anything useful, it's already been found. I'll run through the SA forums too and see what I can find.

[JAPZYKAPITANZROYALZ]

Sounds stupid but have we tried San Andreas for clues? May the secret lies in the past I mean rockstar knew this game was going to be made (gta v) but as I said it's only a suggestion but it's worth a shot.

san andreas is not complete its more likely a easter egg game, what did not come is there on gta 5. hwever what we could there is 69 ufo pictures and 7 marked ufos on a beta map. gta 5 might be another sa because of the mystery, jetpack not ready, elevator's glitching, and more possibly. more likely find a beta map of gta 5.

[StangOne50]

@slatemc.. Nothing should be taken away from the members of this forum. I would like to see proof the ufos were discovered on youtube.

Supermaruo put together a very detailed timeline of just how everything was discovered. And I agree with it because I was there when it happened.

Though many of the pages of this particular thread have been rubbish. There have been many more thousands of pages of threads before it that had loads of great info that got lost in the shuffle.

 

link to timeline for anyone interested...

http://gtaforums.com/topic/637631-easter-egg-origins-history-of-the-gtav-treasure-hunt/?p=1063879666

[Macontheweb007]

Well guys, after another full playthrough to 100% and a notepad full of ideas already tried by hardend hunters, I have a thought for all involved.

 

Before I go through this please remember to treat this as an opinion, all be it a very well researched opinion, that is all it is.

 

Whilst playing infamous Second Son's "Paper trail" mystery, I was hit with a bullet to the head in regards to the GTA V "Mystery"......

 

The paper trail mystery is an interesting one as it pulls you out of the game to a website that provides information that the user can gain clues to advance in game. These clues are released weekly to give the mystery some longjevity.......which got me thinking how would R* control how long it would take to solve the mystery......

 

We can find as many clues as we want and still completely miss what they were pointing too, which has been prooved by the fact that the UFO's were found completely by accident and not from following the clues......(a well documented fact from the earliest "mystery thread" posts) which means that the mechanism used by R* HAS TO BE the online community!

 

Think about it and be honest with yourself (I understand that this is a big ask for some of the immature posting in this forum at the mo...but please try!) without all of the input that you have read online, would you have found the UFO's on your own?

 

I would think the answer would be a resounding "No", and even by going back through the clues and looking at how the clues were suppose to lead us there, we would still need help from the online community.

 

My point being that this "Mystery" was designed to stimulate groups like ours into hunting out every nook and cranny, every possible easter egg, sign, missing letter, 100 % requirements etc etc...... and share our findings and solve the mural mystery (if there is one) once and for all.

 

Now let's look at this logically.........

 

In Sp we probably solved the infinate 8 mystery in about 10 mins flat on your own, it was not exactly taxing......the same for Jock's missus' ghost, all without too much brain power.

 

Now look at the mural and the glyphs......we needed alot of help from lot's of people to put all the clues together and see the UFO on top of chiliad, and I have no idea apart from blind luck how you would have found the other 2 UFO's if it was not for the online community as there are no direct clues to lead you to these locations to look for a UFO, unless someone can point it out, 'cos I could not write up an explaination of how to logically follow any clues that would lead us to find the FZ and HC UFO's.

 

These thoughts got me to thinking about the make up of a mystery...and things got interesting.......

 

Second son's paper trail mystery is a good example of this.

 

1. They told us there was a mystery to solve

2. They gave some criptic clues on how to investigate information.

3. They gave very clear indication when a part of the puzzle was solved and clear indication on how to move on....

4. They gave a mechanism to monitor progress.

 

Now put that into context with GTA 5

 

1. They did not tell us there was a mystery.

2. They gave some criptic clues on how to investigate information.

3. They did not give clear indication when a part of the puzzle was solved (What does the UFO on Chiliad mean really?) and DID NOT give clear indication on how to move on..

4. They did not give a mechansim to monitor progress (in regards to a "mystery")

 

so as you can see there are some very big differences in the way this "mystery" has been presented to us.

 

Would it be feesable to look at these facts in a different way.....i.e why? why did R* not tell us there was a mystery? Why is there a referenence to a jetpack on a mural that seems to be the olny thing still "unsolved" and no other clues to guide us? Why is there no further clues in this regard?

 

This is the answer I have come to. R* have (or had depending on timescales) not finished the mystery deliberately.

 

As already discussed, the mysery was designed to stimulate open forum discussion, which we have all put forward our crazy theories and ideas in regards to the jetpack..............thus allowing R* to find far better ways of putting a mystery together than the largest team R* could hire!

 

It's really clever when you think about it. R* gave us every easter egg we ever asked for in GTA 5, we had a mystery serial killer, with clues to solve the mystery. We got bigfoot (how many years have we asked for that one!) We got all the usual collectable missions that we have come to expect......then we got the mural.......and after months and months of thousands of people trying to solve it, we are still no closer than day one........why?

 

BECAUSE R* want to read our input and create the DLC to build in a fantastic mystery perhaps? It would also explain why there has been no PC release date given.......adn the Epsilon ramblings about the 9th paradym not yet being written........

 

I am starting to think that the biggest trolls have been here all the time guys .....R*!

 

Sorry for the wall of text chaps, but it has got to be better than half the Sh!t that's been posted lately.

 

Best regards

 

Mac

Edited May 29, 2014 by Macontheweb007

[jawarren420]

 

I would but no 1 notices trev in a dress

 

I've noticed Trevor in a green dress. It's a random spawn. Seen him on top of a mountain once drunk in a dress and recently I've seen him once or twice be kicked out of a store saying something to the effect of "I have a right to test out a product before a purchase"

 

has anyone tried taking 500k to the dock in multiplayer? i think maybe that would trigger something as on the bpm it says 'CASH' and in single all of your money is through maze bank, also i think this cause maybe the 500k that rockstar put into peoples account was specifically meant for doing this, hinting toiwards the ee?

 

Tried it once no luck.

 

Also the 500k online was a sorry for the sucky servers when GTAO first launched. Enough for the most expensive apartment and either a half decent car or a gun or two and all the ammo you could hold (which at the time for most it wasn't a lot)

 

ah fair play, and yeah i know it was about the servers but i was thinking that could have just been an excuse, probably just being stupid though haha

[Macontheweb007]

http://gtaforums.com...t/?p=1063879666

 

I love this link, and going back to my wall of text above, what a great way to build a mystery and hide the answer........pick from one of the threads mentioned in the above link...

 

"Decoding the Mount Chiliad Mural" thread gets temporarily locked at 15,435 posts . . . still no new discoveries since the thread started.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Macontheweb007

[Awolspitfire]

I'm currently investigating the mysteriously non turning turbines at the windfarm. After all, it said Easter egg NEAR grand ear, not at it

[jawarren420]

i honestly just think that this whole mystery is just R* trolling all of us! Thats why there hasnt been any hints or confirmations, i bet there just sitting in there offices reading all these forums laughing there arses off at all of the theories out there!

still though its still giving me something to do in game so im not complaining

[Thelankymidget]

Don't know if this is. Breakthrough but while online I sticky bomb two widows on front of the mystery door and I blew them up and saw some glitch threw the floor before it disapeered maybe there is a room up there?! I don't know but going to try and get inside