GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[SHARKEM]

actually broyg looks interesting. processing....

[XMarqstheSpot]

I would have to agree on the Freidlander thing BUT, i found some interesting conversations with Freidlander, seemingly talking to Michael, in the English Language Files.

 

 

 

Also...

 

[TirkaneX]

I understood nothing...

[LiquidNitrogen]

Has anyone found anything in SP that they cannot ride or drive? I found an ATV and an RV, both in the same location, that I can't drive. The RV is locked and the ATV won't crank. This is the first time I've found something like this. Would give a location with glokons map but its acting up on my phone.

Edited March 1, 2014 by LiquidNitrogen

[SHARKEM]

Has anyone found anything in SP that they cannot ride or drive? I found an ATV and an RV, both in the same location, that I can't drive. The RV is locked and the ATV won't crank. This is the first time I've found something like this. Would give a location with glokons map but its acting up on my phone.

that's the start for trevor's hunting missions.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Then you understand everything, Zondar.

 

Or was that Zolag? (Lago Z)

Edited March 1, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[TirkaneX]

Zondar>zardon

 

Missile Command was ported to the Atari 2600. The game's instruction manual describes a war between two planets: Zardon (the defending player) and Krytol. The original arcade game contains no reference to these worlds. On level 13, if the player uses all of his or her missiles without scoring any points, at the end of the game the city on the right will turn into "RF" — the initials of the programmer Rob Fulop. This Easter egg is originally documented in Atari Age (Volume 1, Issue 2) in a letter to the editor by Joseph Nickischer, and is the second one publicly acknowledged by Atari

 

John Braden recorded two different stories for Kid Stuff Records detailing the peaceful world of Zardon and the invasion of the Krytolians. The 12" album tells the broader story, beginning with an emergency meeting in which the Zardonian public learns of the threat for the first time. It has two songs, a title track and "Zardon Commanders". The 7" tells a smaller, more specific story.

 

guide:

 

It is interesting to note that while the arcade game set no specific time or place, the original design cast the six cities in the game as six major cities on the west coast of the United States: Eureka, San Francisco, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, and San Diego. However, the manual for the Atari 2600 version of the game provides an entirely fictional back story for the game, presented here.

 

Aliens from the planet of Krytol have begun an attack on the planet Zardon. The Krytolians are warriors out to destroy and seize the planet of Zardon. Zardon is the last of the peaceful planets. The Zardonians are skillful and hardworking people. Their cities are built-up and rich in resources. It is truly a planet void of crime and violence.

 

Zardon has built a powerful defense system. Several antiballistic missile bases have been established within the cities of Zardon. The Zardonians are ready for this attack, and are prepared to fight to save their cities.

 

As base commander it is your responsibility to protect and defend six cities on the planet of Zardon. The Krytolians have begun firing interplanetary ballistic missiles. They are aiming at your cities and missile bases. Your only defense is to fire back with antiballistic missiles. But watch out, the Krytolians are sly, they also have cruise missiles. Cruise missiles look like satellites, but they are just as deadly as the interplanetary ballistic missiles.

 

Use your antiballistic missiles (ABMs) to stop the enemy before your happy and harmonious planet is destroyed.

Edited March 1, 2014 by TirkaneX

[XMarqstheSpot]

Random encounter on my playthrough, what should i do?

 

A BUM robs a REDHEAD woman at gunpoint.

 

Options are...

 

A. Chase Bum, kill him.

B. Let Bum get away.

C. Call cops and wrangle the Bum until they arrive.(never tried this, not sure if it works?)

 

opinions, other options?

[Crimie]

@Tirk, I also clipped some of my camera through the wall, what is behind there is the full grave you can see the whole thing, then there is some ground, just a little where the grave stands and then the rest of the "room" just drops off into blue hell, also the tree thats there the branches clip through the wall into the "room" behind it so it kinda fits all the criteria of a glitch. If you see this yourself perhaps you will agree, but think what you want, I wish I had your faith I wish it was a secret entrance!

Edited March 1, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[Garo]

@Garo you are talking sh*t. there was some confusion about tracts being missing as R* social said 15 to collect but this was rectified afaik.

I'd love to know how I'm talking sh*t

 

I pretty much said the crazy things people are coming up With like Greek poems and crazy other sources are useless, rockstar makes grand theft auto not national treasure movies

 

5 missing tracts made me find a connection between the mural and the tracts

 

I'm pretty sure it's so something to consider,

 

I limit myself when thinking to hard on this because it makes for some crazy idea if not

 

Only other thing I can think of is the spacedocker is needed because of it's green lights, they definitely could reveal something as if it's a backlight,

 

These have all been said before but we should focus on the basics, and the artwork on michaels walls in his house certainly mean something as well

Edited March 1, 2014 by Garo

[Crimie]

@Garo, we think you are wrong because the Xs represent the glyphs which are the conditions need to view the UFOs. You are right that there were 15 tracts but there are actually 10 in the game, Rockstar even rectified this on the social club stats if you check your own you will see you have collected all the tracts. Best advice is to read as much as you can of the thread to see all the stuff that comes up over and over again to avoid bringing up old ideas. Its no easy task but it will help you understand the mystery a bit more and see where we are at the moment.

 

If you still think you are right, then by all means try and find an eleventh tract and we will stand corrected, I for one would be happy to be wrong in this case, however out of millions of players with the game no one has ever reported this so the logical solution is that there are no more tracts.

Edited March 1, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[KuddleKombatGTA]

Hey first time posting

I just had an idea that the jacksheepe Thing about the jetpack being in the grave is talking about the open grave and that someone has already been there and left the pistol as a clue for the next part of the puzzle

 

What do you guys think?

[Garo]

@Garo, we think you are wrong because the Xs represent the glyphs which are the conditions need to view the UFOs. You are right that there were 15 tracts but there are actually 10 in the game, Rockstar even rectified this on the social club stats if you check your own you will see you have collected all the tracts. Best advice is to read as much as you can of the thread to see all the stuff that comes up over and over again to avoid bringing up old ideas. Its no easy task but it will help you understand the mystery a bit more and see where we are at the moment.

 

If you still think you are right, then by all means try and find an eleventh tract and we will stand corrected, I for one would be happy to be wrong in this case, however out of millions of players with the game no one has ever reported this so the logical solution is that there are no more tracts.

I read everyone's posts everyday man I have no problem with recylcing info because that could be what's needed to solve this thing, far too many things have been overlooked apparently

 

For those people who want gta for computer gotta realize you won't get it until the jetpack is found and the mural is solved, they're waiting for people to solve everything because they know you'll find it out in the computer files as soon as you get it, that's why it's not out for that yet,

 

Anyone ever come into physical contact with te children of the mountain because I've never heard of anyone doing an actual mission for them

Edited March 1, 2014 by Garo

[Crimie]

Ok you may read everyday but it might not been long enough to get the full picture! I say this because this mystery is very extensive and if you think the Xs represent the tracts then you are severely misled somewhere along the way, you would know that this cannot be. Im just trying to help you out but if this is what you believe im not going to stop you do whatever you want its your game you paid for and your hunt, have fun and enjoy brother brother.

Edited March 1, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[Garo]

Ok you may read everyday but it might not be enough! I say this because this mystery is very extensive and if you think the Xs represent the tracts then you are severely misled somewhere along the way, you would know that this cannot be. Im just trying to help you out but if this is what you believe im not going to stop you do whatever you want its your game you paid for and your hunt, have fun and enjoy brother brother.

Haha that's not what I'm saying I'm not a Brian I'm not god I'm not some crazy greater being I'm only human and I'm trying to solve this like everyone else, I realize the 15 tracts have been corrected, I just thought it was weird and also how the epsilon missions didn't really ever come to an actual end just like the storyline never did, part of me thinks it's all right there in front of us, the other part makes me believe that we gotta wait for a major dlc

[TirkaneX]

I never say that this grave is hiding something! I say it could REPRESENT the front view or top view of a building ELSWERE in LS. I speak of its shape, its outline, front view as your picture.

 

And where could be "the grave" of the jetpack? the locations of GTA:SA present in LS.

And if I'm not wrong there is a part of GTASA map, on one of the flags located along the road leading to Kortz. "history of San Andreas".

And imo, fz would be more his cradle, not his grave.

Edited March 1, 2014 by TirkaneX

[Crimie]

@Garo Hey i never said I thought you said you were a greater being or anything like that! I will fully agree with you there we may be looking at some DLC along the road, the tract leaves itself wide open for this possibilty

 

Ill take this opportunity to state I believe the mural was fully intended to be misinterpreted. One example of this could be the 5 missing tracts as you said(although this was a goof on Rockstars part!)

Another was we are supposed to think the egg is the chicken farm in the local town.

I also believe we were supposed to believe there was some entrance to Chiliad & lightning was relevant or necessary.

Another is the jetpack representing a jetpack.It represents a UFO however, one that shines a light on the entrance to where we would logically find a jetpack in SA, the underground facility of the military base. Ive been a fan of this game for 17 years, its things like this that someone like me cannot ignore as a message from Rockstar, like that is the only confirmation one needs to know its there, why they would do this to us? This I cannot answer unless someone actually finds one or they release it as dlc.

 

@Tirk ok bro sorry another misunderstanding between us! Thats a good idea, but if it is a clue or reference to a building that means more, it seems like a real head scratcher to figure out!

Edited March 1, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[XMarqstheSpot]

All right, this has gone on long enough with nothing coming in game from it.

 

So, i think i'm out.

 

I got other things i want to spend time on, this is just getting boring and other things are looking way more interesting.

 

 

I had a great time experiencing this with all of you, so thanks for the great time!

 

Best of luck to anyone who keeps the search alive, there are prospects that are promising but, just not enough to keep myself convinced that there really is something more.

 

I just can't force myself to believe it for any longer.

 

I think the Message of "The Hero" and "Self Realization/Actualization" is the True Reward of GTAV, and only for those who appreciate it fully.

 

Kifflom!

 

 

EDIT: Being at the end of my time with GTAV, as the Mystery was the only thing keeping me from trading it in, i have to say other than "The Message" i am a little more than slightly disappointed in GTAV's Endgame and Rewards for the people who take the extra time to find all the EE's. there really is no motivation to spend time looking for things anymore in GTA games as they are virtually subjectable to the viewer.

 

Meaning that something that i see as an EE will most likely be labeled "Nothing" by others because it's all in the eyes of the beholder, and will only cause frustrating arguments to the people who, once again take the time to appreciate the little things that R* took the time to include in the game.

 

Causing arguments is kind of the opposite of rewards that are supposed to bring good times, IMHO.

 

when i sit back and look at the big picture with all the information we have armed ourselves with, i just can't really understand the creative direction.

 

I leave feeling i have taken part in a lackluster experience that leaves me unfulfilled.

 

 

And before anyone says it, $60 for all the good times was definitely worth it but, that all came from our input, not really from the game itself.

 

I would have had just as much fun with you all if we were trying to solve a murder mystery, so it's you guys that made the experience joyful and long lasting, not particularly the game because the Mystery was poorly constructed and overwhelmingly vague, IMHO.

 

Without you guys the Mystery would have been complete crap, so thanks again!

Edited March 1, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[KuddleKombatGTA]

I never say that this grave is hiding something! I say it could REPRESENT the front view or top view of a building ELSWERE in LS. I speak of its shape, its outline, front view as your picture.

I just had an idea that the jacksheepe Thing about the jetpack being in the grave is talking about the open grave and that someone has already been there and left the pistol as a clue for the next part of the puzzle

[Garo]

Hey i never said I thought you said you were a greater being or anything like that! I will fully agree with you there we may be looking at some DLC along the road, the tract leaves itself wide open for this possibilty

Exactly they've left everything open, they never finished anything they started in this game, which should pretty much tell everyone that there's more to be seen, keep your spacedockers people keep your epsilon tractors keep everything you've earned, there's for sure another story coming I just don't know what they'll do if you decided to take out Trevor or Michael

[TirkaneX]

Another thing. The sun rise at different locations. I.e, If I am on the Lago Zucando, the sun rise approximativey where the lighthouse is(this direction I mean)

 

but if I'm on the beach at the east of tatavian mountain (epsilon island) the sun rise approximatively face of me. What the f*ck is wrong with the sun!

 

Ditto for the moon, one night i was at the lighthouse, playing with the beam, when I realized that the full moon was so low she passed behind the lighthouse.

 

Seriously, what's wrong???

[timesteal]

Sure the grave is something, tucked under a tree and hidden by a bush. It's definetly not random but, from what's gathered ( u can see through rock @ right angle) it's just one of those large graves that can be found in other locations. A concrete grave sticking out of rock? R☆ pays attention to detail just to make the grave 4 no reason.

I tried flying under the map to investigate but couldn't make it across the swamp:(

[timesteal]

@TirkaneX

Yes!!

I knew I wasn't crazy, I was trying to map the suns path from rise to set & I swore it had risen in a different area each time. Sometimes in front of me the other time way down by Deadmans cove. What's going on here?

 

EDit: I noticed this while all the East in the ocean.

Edited March 1, 2014 by timesteal

[TirkaneX]

And that, we can't say that a detail, or "maybe something".

[nextonex]

Amanda is Miss Marcy

 

c

Edited March 1, 2014 by nextonex

[Garo]

One things for sure, for this big Easter egg, timing and location of the sun/moon are important, I always get intrigued by the brightness and color of the sky when the sun is setting near the altruists camp, the whole sky is insanely orange and the sun is extremely bright, now I've seen real sunsets before but they defitnely took some time on making the skies look beautiful

 

Also the address 1807 with an arrow if anyone has seen this by the hills in vinewood, it's at an intersection and I haven't been able to find the house, I've seen addresses close to it but never found 1807,

 

There's also a black strawberry on the wall above it so it may be hinting that the house is in strawberry

Edited March 1, 2014 by Garo

[TirkaneX]

And the mirror park quarter has a true strawberry shape

Edited March 1, 2014 by TirkaneX

[nextonex]

All right, this has gone on long enough with nothing coming in game from it.

 

So, i think i'm out.

 

I got other things i want to spend time on, this is just getting boring and other things are looking way more interesting.

 

 

I had a great time experiencing this with all of you, so thanks for the great time!

 

Best of luck to anyone who keeps the search alive, there are prospects that are promising but, just not enough to keep myself convinced that there really is something more.

 

I just can't force myself to believe it for any longer.

 

I think the Message of "The Hero" and "Self Realization/Actualization" is the True Reward of GTAV, and only for those who appreciate it fully.

 

Kifflom!

 

 

EDIT: Being at the end of my time with GTAV, as the Mystery was the only thing keeping me from trading it in, i have to say other than "The Message" i am a little more than slightly disappointed in GTAV's Endgame and Rewards for the people who take the extra time to find all the EE's. there really is no motivation to spend time looking for things anymore in GTA games as they are virtually subjectable to the viewer.

 

Meaning that something that i see as an EE will most likely be labeled "Nothing" by others because it's all in the eyes of the beholder, and will only cause frustrating arguments to the people who, once again take the time to appreciate the little things that R* took the time to include in the game.

 

Causing arguments is kind of the opposite of rewards that are supposed to bring good times, IMHO.

 

when i sit back and look at the big picture with all the information we have armed ourselves with, i just can't really understand the creative direction.

 

I leave feeling i have taken part in a lackluster experience that leaves me unfulfilled.

 

 

And before anyone says it, $60 for all the good times was definitely worth it but, that all came from our input, not really from the game itself.

 

I would have had just as much fun with you all if we were trying to solve a murder mystery, so it's you guys that made the experience joyful and long lasting, not particularly the game because the Mystery was poorly constructed and overwhelmingly vague, IMHO.

 

Without you guys the Mystery would have been complete crap, so thanks again!

I have been feeling the same way lately.

 

I wish we had some time for me to show you some of the things that I found, not sure if it would have changed your mind though.

 

I'm going to finish my replay to kill Michael and see if there is any interesting repercussions and then I'm done also.

 

I agree with all your statements. If there is something hidden in there, it's well hidden, too well hidden.

 

I've learned more about the world any myself from this game than any other game I have ever played. It's a shame there hasn't been something, even if it was a small cutscene and To Be Continued... but it appears to be beyond my reach.

 

I'll continue to play GTAO and follow the threads, but spring is coming and buggy season is about to start, and that's my true religion.

 

If I learn anything new on the playthough, I'll post it.

 

Kifflom!

 

 

 

I'll never trade it in though, I still have every GTA game I've ever bought.

Edited March 1, 2014 by nextonex

[shoky]

Can someone please explain me how to download a dlc n where should I go

[Xavina]

Can someone please explain me how to download a dlc n where should I go

 

You have to wait until the DLC comes out and buy it with your PSN or Xbox Live account, by charging electronic money into your account (by way of using real money of course). And where should you go? Wherever you think the truth is, mate.