GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[Druminator]

Despite all the great work the file hunters do I really hope they don't solve this before those of us using the game do. If there is a mystery to be solved, it can be done without using outside sources. Best of luck to all of us though, its been a long journey so far.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Druminator

[Ungreth]

 

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hey i'm thinking of something you know how there are the grey aliens and they say they ar among us and whatnot. what if those are them?

In the satelite tower aparently the guy in the gray suit is the one who "betrays" the others who start to shoot you if you get near.

Maybe they want peace ... or something ... I'm not really sure if this makes sense x.x'

 

 

There does seem to be a lot of tension between FIB and IIA in this game. I suspect FIB may be using alien tech to protect us, while the IIA are using it to control us, which kind of fits in with the real life FBI and CIA. FBI are essentially "super" cops who's main responsibility is public protection and busting major crime, while the CIA are the shady bastards who spy on us, conduct mind control experiments, manipulate the field of war and assassinate "troublesome" public figures. This is also reflected in the difference between the appearances of the man-made UFOs. The FIB craft have a much more benign, protective look, kinda like the UFO from ET or Close Encounters, while the Zancudo UFO which is a military / IIA asset looks rather dark, sinister and hostile.

 

I think they probably maintain a tenuous truce agreement, but it's easily broken, and that's why they turn on each other as soon as you provoke gunfire at their little gatherings. The main story line's later events would also suggest this to be the case.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Ungreth

[Kohr-Ah]

 

 

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hey i'm thinking of something you know how there are the grey aliens and they say they ar among us and whatnot. what if those are them?

In the satelite tower aparently the guy in the gray suit is the one who "betrays" the others who start to shoot you if you get near.

Maybe they want peace ... or something ... I'm not really sure if this makes sense x.x'

 

 

There does seem to be a lot of tension between FIB and IIA in this game. I suspect FIB may be using alien tech to protect us, while the IIA are using it to control us, which kind of fits in with the real life FBI and CIA. FBI are essentially "super" cops who's main responsibility is public protection and busting major crime, while the CIA are the shady bastards who spy on us, conduct mind control experiments, manipulate the field of war and assassinate "troublesome" public figures. This is also reflected in the difference between the appearances of the man-made UFOs. The FIB craft have a much more benign, protective look, kinda like the UFO from ET or Close Encounters, while the Zancudo UFO which is a military / IIA asset looks rather dark, sinister and hostile.

 

I think they probably maintain a tenuous truce agreement, but it's easily broken, and that's why they turn on each other as soon as you provoke gunfire at their little gatherings. The main story line's later events would also suggest this to be the case.

 

Your ideas on the subject make me wishful that there will be some sort of FIB vs IAA DLC of sorts, even if there aren't aliens involved.

[CanOdope]

So... The last tweet by EpsilonismToday (I'm sure you're familiar with it) was on October 18, 2013. I did a little research... Two things that I noticed about that date were (A) it was when 1.04 was released, and (B) there was a penumbral lunar eclipse. Could the tract be written? Could it have anything to do with either of these things?

[coldlm]

Speaking of, my download just restarted.

 

In other news, last night I came up with a brilliant idea. A while back someone mentioned a rumor that R* worked with puzzle experts on making GTA V. If this was the case, wouldn't they be credited for their work(in the credits). Assuming this rumor was true, we could use the credits and google to find out who they are, what their area of expertise is, and what part of the game they had a role in. This could help us to know exactly what we should be searching for.

As far as i know there was more than 1000 person working on GTA5! so it's going to be hard to locate them (if they exist in the first place ) but a really good idea go for it

[Zolag]

Damn Trolls come here and speak of DLC JETPACKS and R* coming in to our game and helping us.

Cool story

 

So just before i die... Can someone from R* come into my life and give me a JETPACK???

 

P L E A S E

 

Dude, you didn't even read the theory...

[Kuro116]

Got bored and decided to check the spots on Lester's map that hangs over his bed, I can't up load pics so sorry guys but interesting none the less doesn't really help towards the search:

 

1st spot was a company named Maison Richard, their logo was an ol' timey colonialist the ones that wear powder wigs I'm assuming it's an illuminati reference. Across the street is the FIB building go figure.

2nd dot

Was the PenRis building illuminati again I guess

3rd dot

Was the Echorock plaza, I guess that would be out reference to Mt chiliad and all the damn mystry surrounding it lol

4th dot

Rockford hills plaza, couple things here inside the parking area is a round retunda that has four columns looks a lot like the bottom of a UFO, I checked the rooftop just incase, it overlooks the ally where Michael is abducted. Other then that not a whole lot.

I wish I could look at Lester's files in his boxes they are all labeled with such interesting titles.

[TirkaneX]

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/in/usa/los-angeles

[DFur4M]

Those are great news from the file guys, nice work! And also thanks, hope everything goes ok in real life.

 

Im downloading now

 

well, too complicated for me, hope you guys have more luck, im not good in this stuff

Edited February 23, 2014 by DFur4M

[shoky]

Back home so I took I drive up blain county the blain county bank got a writing saying (blain county your next egg)

[tadd]

@shoky... neSt egg*

[Crimie]

Ok some stuff about the altruists I found interesting, this might have been found before but their symbol on the map is quite similiar to the Anarchy symbol.

The Anarchy symbol was quite synomous with this genious/whack job

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber

Run "unabomber" through google images...in his mugshot he looks like one of the Altruists i could swear!

 

Now I know its well known the altruist message is a different version of this guys manifesto but with the recent revelation that the morse message emits from the local radio station for some unexplainable reason and me wondering "Why?" could it be something like this?

In 1995, Kaczynski mailed several letters, including some to his victims and others to major media outlets, outlining his goals and demanding that his 50-plus page, 35,000-word essay Industrial Society and Its Future, abbreviated to "Unabomber Manifesto" by the FBI,^[39] be printed verbatim by a major newspaper or journal. He stated that if this demand were met, he would then end his bombing campaign.^[40]

 

 

Another thing.. didnt someone say one of the graffitis in the altruist cave looks like the GoPostal logo? If you read his wiki you will find he was quite fond of posting bombs to politicians. Might be a stretch but i remembered the red/blue graffiti in the cave being talked about a long time ago looking like the GoPostal logo.

There may not be a sign of bombmaking in the Altruist camp but with the weaponry and crates they keep around id say that they could be potential terrorists if they wanted to be

 

He also lived in the sticks in a cabin and survived on anything around him but technology for a large portion of his life. But here we have the Altruists of the same belief of hating technology emitting morse code from a public radio station and have a webmaster for their website lol

 

I know its not an exact match to the altruists but since this guys message is the same as the altruists I cant help but think we are being pointed here for whatever reason?

Its certainly a very strange easter egg that Altruist message to look further into

Edited February 23, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[TirkaneX]

If GTAV was the modern remake of the movie "the good, the bad and the ugly", who would be? : (my opinion)

-The Good (Franklin)
-The Bad (Trevor)
-The ugly (Michael)

[TirkaneX]

To raise water from the dam (but which one?). We have rocks we can move, bulldozers and others yellow vehicles to transport them.

 

I've tried and rocks don't disappear when we put them in water

[TirkaneX]

Orientation of all satellites :

 

 

[Deadman2112]

Please do not quote this, if at all possible.

you can simply say...

@deadman or what deadman said in this part or that part and so-fourth and so-on

If you must quote it, edit and remove all unnecessary information.

Thanks in advance

 

Found some cool things hunting tonight

Sorry for the huge wall

 

 

 

Lets start with the sand glyph

 

 

The above the image was pulled from the game files.

 

On the left-hand side you noticed that there is an arrow with an N located at the bottom of it, essentially indicating a north arrow.

 

If you fallow the main clues at this location, you will find this one location points to two places. The Altruist camp/cannibal compound and The Sandyshores painted desert/Hippie camp site. The glyph also gives one clue at each of these locations essentially letting you know that you're in one of the two correct locations it is pointing you too, as you will see below.

 

When you see the gliph in the game it doesn't exactly show everything depicted in the game file image.

The 6 is partially covered by the bush, and the N from the bottom of the arrow is covered up completely.

 

 

 

When you look at it in-game with the missing N, the arrow points directly at...

 

 

 

obviously this is another clue that ties the three locations together, and conveniently enough they made sure they put the wow signal on the right hand side....

exactly how your viewing it, because the hippie camp is to your right when in this orentation.

 

Ok so check this out

A lot of people say the that the zigzag line and triangle represents a mountain with a path, a radio tower, lighting or even all three.

Yes I am aware that all 3 of these are fund at the at the

Often lightning strikes, A mountain with a path and a radio tower

 

 

 

I think this is just here, like a little clue, telling you that you come to one of the correct locations that the sand glyph site was directing you too in the first place.

...and as you will see later on that this is not the zigzag line they are telling you about, but we'll get to that later.

 

Once you are at the compound in the mountains and look at all the clues. The first and easiest things that is most notable about this location are all the references to the sun. It's quite literally depicted everywhere you look at this location.

 

(I'm only going to use the game file image to save space because uploading a picture of every building with every image on it it would take forever)

 

 

 

the most obvious are all the images of the sun as I mentioned before then you have things like.

 

He is risen: I can't speak for everyone, but the first thing that comes to mind is...

the sun

 

His light shines on us all: the same answer and reason as before...

the sun

 

See the eye: in GTA the sun looks like an eye, especially at sunrise and sunset. Top that off with the fact that when the phrase see the eye is mentioned it is accompanied by an image of the sun that looks like and eye. So, once again the sun and one other thing that I'll get to later.

 

The more misleading ones are...

Son of god and We are his children.

I know it was recently brought up by member on reddit that felt that was a reference to Jesus.

 

It's understandable how you could make the connection between the clues and Jesus, but I just don't see it being that. Therefore I don't think this is the sun they are referring to

 

#1 the sun is the oldest worshiped and most adored image in human history. It was worship as a god long before religion or jesus ever came along.

#2 science has proven that we are all carbon based life forms. carbon is only created in the heart of of a sun. Effectively proving "we are his (the sun) children" but I think this clue has more then one meaning and I'll get the 2nd part of it's meaning in a moment.

 

What's left...

Praise him

Give thanks

Embrace the light

¤ur path is lit!

 

Before I get to the last few a bit of info about the compound...

 

I have tried lots of the ideas presented by other players of this game at this location like...

The space doctor, bringing chop, standing in front of doors all day and Even sacrifice with the bat on the stone

 

I figured out that is long as you had the bat in your hand and no other weapon...

the members would line up to fight you rather then shoot you. this lead me to think that maybe I could coax them on to the stone alter to kill them, and it worked. However I stacked bodies on that alter in all weathers and all times of day

...but nothing happened.

 

most recently I even tried a new idea that was presented buy a member of readit and he was http://gtaforums.com/topic/680675-looking-deeper-metaphors-and-philosophy-gtafs-very-own-cult/?p=1064796622

 

the point I'm trying to get at is as unfortunate as it sounds...

it doesn't seem that the compound is the location the clues are telling you about. So we have to look outside the camp for our next clue. don't worry I haven't forgotton about last few phrases or the zigzag line, we'll get back to them in a minute.

 

So when you go below the camp you find this alcove...

shape of the silhouette highlighted in red...

(sorry for the ugly lines, I'm using a cheap program on my phone to do this.)

 

 

 

When you get up close to the alcove and inspect the inside you see that there is a triangle shaped cut out in the rock.

 

 

 

This cutout shows why I put the green triangle.

I circled the sun in yellow because of it's placement on the back wall, as if to say wherever this location is...

you should be able to see the sun.

I circled the rams skull in orange because of all the leads to the ram symbol and Egg and because of what tadd said about the morse code. Also will get back to the shapes mentioned above in a few minutes.

 

I'm going to skip over the part about the sandy shores air strip, flipping the map, the wow signal and all that additional info that led to the cove.

So for those of you don't know what I'm referring to your going to have too read back through the earlier post. sorry

 

okay so skipping ahead to the cove

 

The cove is located just east of the Humane labs

 

 

 

This area has an underwater entrance (used in the mission monkey Business), and a hole in the rock.

 

 

 

Remember the shape I was referring to earlier...

when you look at the whole wall facing directly east you see this...

 

 

 

We all know what the general symbol for the eye is.

 

 

 

The first time I arrived at this location I immediately noticed this because of how it look a lot like and eye.

 

 

(This happens when the sun light shines through the hole. This does make a lit path as you can see so that covers "¤ur path is lit!")

This is what you see when the sun has risen, so that yet another to add to he is risen

 

I know what your thinking at this point

...that really doesn't look like the eye found on any of the glyphs or the mural.

but as I've stressed over now over it's all in the perspective or angle you view it from...

 

 

 

I don't know

This next one might be a stretch...

 

 

 

When the sun shines through the hole it makes the more familiar shape of the eye, and comes in two overall color spectrums

 

 

The same two colors the sun is depicted in the compound.

Also this...

 

Ive still been checking out this area and it too is a lightning hotspot...

Now getting back to the zigzag line that I spoke about. No need to wait for a lightning strike, them to put up radio tower, or even follow a path up a mountain to do yoga. Yep you guessed it...

this place comes complete with it's own

 

 

This shadow only appears during certain times of the day. this is the reason the zigzag line is normally overlooked

 

One of the acronyms for the word embrace is cradle or hold

See how it is, "cradling/holding" or if you will "embracing" the light?

 

 

 

When you view it upside down it makes this Image...

 

 

 

Found all over the hillside at this location are daisies...

 

 

 

...and oddly enough this is also where I stand to get the cool photos of the eye when at this location.

I did find then in a place I didn't expect to see daisies...

The beach and most are found in clusters of three

 

 

 

And even more strangely enough when I stand and watch the sun come up while standing the middle of that particular cluster of daisies and view it through a sniper rifle I get this...

 

 

Notice the hole, center of the arch or cradle, and the sun line up to create this silhouette, and it almost looks like an egg.

 

I'm not sure this is really anything but might be worth mentioning.

 

 

 

The last two I'm having a bit of trouble with but I'm sure there is an answer that somehow ties to the cove it just needs to be found.

So the next two are total guesses at this point...

 

Praise him: I've come up with several...

To stand in admiration off

To sing out (a horn maybe?)

To salute. normally when you think of the word salute, you think military version comes to mind but there is another salute whenever all quite familiar with...

..!., the one finger salute lol

 

Last but not least...

 

Give thanks

I don't even know what to do with this one, but the arch/cradle kind of looks like a hand, right?

...and putting something in an empty hand is a way of showing thanks so maybe that what it's redefining to?

 

I know I need to finish decoding what all the sun symbols mean but this is what I have so far

 

**edit**

Oh I almost forgot the mysterious green dot (you hear the Xfiles theme song playing in the background lol)

 

Ok. As I have said before but I'm just going to re-state it one last time for the record...

I understand it is a lighting glitch. I'm still going to treat it as an extra little clue added to the already accounted for path is light phrase.

...and because of it's bright green like the words in the phrase not to mention the way it glows...

it fits the whole alien theme

 

So to Stipeyy, tadd, and the rest of you that said that's what it was coming from...

You were absolutely correct.

I hope you can understand it was an honest mistake.

 

Anyway good call, and my bad.

**end edit**

 

I'm not saying this in anyway shape or form to be mean to anyone in there ideas and approaches to this but even a blind man could see that there is something more to this

So to say that's it there's nothing more in the game...

...lol I don't know, I just don't buy it.

 

from where I'm sitting that's just too many clues that point in just one location it can't all just be random chance.

 

...but hey, you're free to make up your mind.

 

I don't really want to say too much because it would still be speculation at this point, but this all very well could be a clue to shoot for the stars or The Sun if you will

 

****edit****

remember when I said the sand glyphs ties both the cannibal camp and the desert site together I'm willing to bet that if we solve the desert site will finally have an answer to this whole problem

 

 

Edited February 23, 2014 by Deadman2112

[Stipeyy]

 

(...)

This particular paragraph though really caught my interest , ''RIS (reservoir induced seismicity) is

suspected to have contributed to one of the world’s most deadly dam disasters, the overtopping of Vaiont Dam

in the Italian Alps in 1963.

(...)

 

One of the worst Italian tragediesSorry for the OT but that was really bad...btw i live near that dam and my grandpa used to tell me the story of this dam almost every day...

[tadd]

Ummm... from the files topic...

 

Ok so Tom has just blown things out of the water for us and wanted to go out with a bang, so...

 

BANG!!

 

 

Here are all of the scripts in disassembled (text) format.

 

http://tom.gascoigne.me/stuff/gtav_scripts.rar

Mind-->Blown

 

a BIG thanks from us!!

today, is a great day for the hunt!! Edited February 23, 2014 by tadd

[TirkaneX]

@Deadman2112

 

[cwspellowe]

My bad, wrong thread

Edited February 23, 2014 by cwspellowe

[Scoobysrt]

Why is it ok to blast people posting mystery stuff in the file thread but ok to post file stuff in the mystery thread? Personally i dont think it is.

Having said that i am a little pissed after having my iphone bricked trying to download the script file.

 

My idea was to leave the file thread once i got proof somthing exists then just stay here but i fear ill have to leave altogether.

Finding file names etc in the files i could swallow but not stripped out game maps etc etc.

 

I respect what the files guys have done but for me its going to spoil a lot of work ive put into it. Im still on the fence in a way as i still want that proof but if its to the detrement of every secret being revealed without actually working it out in game im not so sure i want to follow down the rabbit hole.

Guys if you want yo post and or discuss files please take it to the file thread. This is the mystery thread.

[cwspellowe]

Sorry, my bad, posted in the wrong thread. Edited.

[Deadman2112]

...

Edited February 24, 2014 by Deadman2112

[Scoobysrt]

Cwspellowe, Yea, it wasnt aimed at you, you posted while i was typing but thanks for your understanding.

Edited February 23, 2014 by Scoobysrt

[TirkaneX]

@ Deadman2112

 

I know I know. Again I say, work with OnePoorFool. Not because you two have a part of the mystery or something ese but because

 

your two brains, Your way of thinking and assemble, analyze, will lead you to the solution.

 

If you go to Ursula 3.am, you will come out at 9.00 am and the rain will cease at 10.00 am(hours of clocks). "After rain comes fair weather".

You know where you stand and when (10.00am after rain).

We operate again and again in the same month. you have to find which day (ie what moon).

So, you will have all the cards in hand.

 

 

(ifmaybeperhapsconditionalidkjustatought)

Edited February 23, 2014 by TirkaneX

[shoky]

@ dead man give thanks could mean drowning the space docker at the cave when the tide is in

[TirkaneX]

I think all the red sentences/symbols concern the West coast and the sunset. Another location, conditions, weather and day/moon.

Edited February 23, 2014 by TirkaneX

[Deadman2112]

@nextonex

No I don't have that info sorry

Just round about times

Sorry

 

but oddly enough it happened again today so I'm assuming this is a normal cloud structure of the game takes I'll try to grab a photograph it ever happens again of the entire cloud I'm only taking a picture of the very bottom half

[tadd]

Scooby... this is the gta5 mystery topic... for general mystery stuff... this is big stuff in the hunt... dont wanna get into the files? Skip the post... worried about viruses? dont click the link...

 

Continue telling people (especially me) what i can and cant post, gtfo

 

Sorry bro i have respect for you and dont really wanna get into it with you but i will post big news like this and if i find something i will also post it here and spoil it for everyone... wanna hunt your own hunt or be blind to certain sources of information then again, gtfo

 

I do not come here discussing files, i simply post important updates as i always have!!

 

I do not see you complaining when requesting things from the files

 

/rant

 

good day.

Edited February 23, 2014 by tadd

[Scoobysrt]

Scooby... this is the gta5 mystery topic... for general mystery stuff... this is big stuff in the hunt... dont wanna get into the files? Skip the post... worried about viruses? dont click the link...

 

Continue telling people (especially me) what i can and cant post, gtfo

 

Sorry bro i have respect for you and dont really wanna get into it with you but i will post big news like this and if i find something i will also post it here and spoil it for everyone... wanna hunt your own hunt or be blind to certain sources of information then again, gtfo

 

I do not come here discussing files, i simply post important updates as i always have!!

 

I do not see you complaining when requesting things from the files

 

/rant

 

good day.

So let me get this straight,

Anyone posts about the mystery in the file thread and you act like a twat and tell them to come here.

You post file stuff here and when its suggested we dont fill the MYSTERY HUNT (not file hunt) thread up with file stuff you still act like a twat?

 

Youll post whatever you want and spoil it for us?

What a c*nt.

 

I bid you all fair well. Happy hunting.

 

As requested by tadd ill gtfo.