GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@Tirk. Very sorry dude but your post makes no sense what so ever.

[TirkaneX]

Ungreth, check my last post @ mystery hunt...

[Dog_Bread]

I wonder how many song lyrics are references to the hunt in a metaphorical sense.

 

"I'm a f*cking genius, look at my f*cking penis." (yeah, that applies to pretty much everyone)

 

"everybody knows me, it's like I'm a movie star."

 

"The mouth don't stop"

 

"Lonely is the night, when you find yourself alone."

 

"I can't wait - am I wasting my time?"

 

"lets get this sh*t over with."

 

"you can't hide, gonna find you"

 

"I've crossed the deserts for miles, swam water for time, searching places to find"

 

"This ain't gonna be easy, you got it?"

 

"Time flies, you better not let it run away from you. You'll never get it back now."

 

"I can't describe, so many details."

 

"It's f*cked up when your mind is playing tricks on ya."

[TirkaneX]

just try bro. I can't say anything else.

 

I only just made the tests, so obviously I did not find anything ingame, but it is not that things disappear but rather that things appear more.

 

If green, blue and red for example is removed, or if you keep only these three colors. there's also magenta, yellow and cyan. I'm not a specialist of colorimetry. I cant say what are the exactly settings to do. The composition of the map is essentially, green, blue and yellow.

 

It's too early to tell what happens.

 

I edited my post to add the doubt.

Edited February 7, 2014 by TirkaneX

[LiquidNitrogen]

@above so alter the TV display settings to change the color of the display so we can find out if there's anything hidden by that can only be found by certain color filters?

[TirkaneX]

@above

 

Yep. But I don't know what color we must keep or remove. Again, I'm not an expert of that type of settings. I've read earlier here, there is a sort of spectrometer @ mazebank(not sure location). Maybe to indicate the good setting.

Edited February 7, 2014 by TirkaneX

[DFur4M]

This is great!! we have awesome news.

 

Let´s be honest guys, we are all looking for something that we dont know if it is there, and we all believe it is, but we also have that tiny voice in the back of our heads saying "perhaps there is nothing else".

 

Well, that can stop. This is great.

 

Now where the f*** is that egg?

[williamcampbell]

 

So the file guys are up to something with the alien egg, Kraffrom turns out to be a robot and Brian & XMarqs are going to have a clash of the titans over on the metaphor thread, its gonna be a good day huntin

 

 

Yeah, I just noticed reoze has confirmed that the alien egg does exist as a static object placed within the game world.

 

So there is definitely a thing that has not yet been found but which is still waiting for us to find it.

 

Let's go find it!

 

Now THIS is something! I'm on it. Count on me to search for it.

[williamcampbell]

 

Someone's Ego is out of whack.

 

And you only realize it now? X, I expect better from you!

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

The eggs have it. My absolute attention goes to that for the time being. Should we each or in groups take one grid square to search?

 

Oh and remember guys the egg could be underwater or on land.

Edited February 7, 2014 by TrevorsStinkyFingers

[cocogen2003]

I like TSF's idea. Right now I'm doin as thorough an investigation of the Naval yard as possible. Willing to help start a grid area search or POI area search with others.

[DFur4M]

Regarding the search.

 

I want to point out a logical point of view. When you search for something, you have a place to search, that will be the game itself.

The egg could be anywhere. There´s 100% to search. I am sure that the map has been searched about 98% already. We could have been starting anywhere, so the 2% that we didnt search could be in the 98% that we did, and some of that 98% could be the 2% (this is not the case, but it could if we would have been searching differently).

My point is, chances are that if you search 98% of the place and you don´t find it, it is highly unlikely that you will find it in the 2% leff, so instead of searching for a cave for example that we havent find, we should search for the trigger, because it is most likely that the egg is in the 98% that we searched than in the 2% left.

 

I hope i made myself clear, i know it can be a bit confusing because i was a bit confused while writing it.

[socrates75]

Regarding the search.

 

I want to point out a logical point of view. When you search for something, you have a place to search, that will be the game itself.

The egg could be anywhere. There´s 100% to search. I am sure that the map has been searched about 98% already. We could have been starting anywhere, so the 2% that we didnt search could be in the 98% that we did, and some of that 98% could be the 2% (this is not the case, but it could if we would have been searching differently).

My point is, chances are that if you search 98% of the place and you don´t find it, it is highly unlikely that you will find it in the 2% leff, so instead of searching for a cave for example that we havent find, we should search for the trigger, because it is most likely that the egg is in the 98% that we searched than in the 2% left.

 

I hope i made myself clear, i know it can be a bit confusing because i was a bit confused while writing it.

You make perfect sence, its more likley a trigger we have missed then an egg sitting behind a barn, is what you are trying to say right?

[DFur4M]

@socrates, yepp, thats it, just wanted to sound more technical and smart hehe

[tresshold]

I think the whole map is been done, we need to go below sea level !!

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

Also we have to realise that the line's of investigation the we are currently on could reveal the egg. Like for example if we ever figure out how to be beamed up to a ufo or get into the elevator at zancudo, we may then see the egg finally revealed. Confirmation of the egg being in the game doesn't change what we are investigating, we just now know it is there and that we should be keeping our eyes peeled. Maybe even replay missions incase it was missed.

[aCMoFoCord]

I want alien eggs and bacon for breakfast!

 

Last time I was at the FZ ufo around 1-2am in game time, I parachuted down to the bunker and there was no light. I have seen the light before but it wasn't there this time. Any one else experienced this? Maybe the light was somewhere else?

[cocogen2003]

Disreguard...I got my 5 stars. What to do with them though¿

Edited February 7, 2014 by cocogen2003

[DFur4M]

Also we have to realise that the line's of investigation the we are currently on could reveal the egg. Like for example if we ever figure out how to be beamed up to a ufo or get into the elevator at zancudo, we may then see the egg finally revealed. Confirmation of the egg being in the game doesn't change what we are investigating, we just now know it is there and that we should be keeping our eyes peeled. Maybe even replay missions incase it was missed.

 

Exactly. I am already on my 3rd time playing the game from zero (i guess you call that re-run).

I´ve seen stuff that i missed. For example. I was on the first mission of trevor, following the bikers, and they were having a conversation trevor, ron, and wade. I died, crash or something. And when i tried again, they were having a completely different conversation that i didnt hear in the first 2 runs.

I already pointed out that in an interview with the actors who played TMF, "trevor" said that they did not improvise, and something in there told me that it was intended, that the producers made them go exactly with the lines that were written. I mean... every actor improvise, but they made it clear that they didnt improvise much (or not at all).

 

Here´s the link if anybody is interested

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@ cocogen. I have done the 5 star thing at zanc! For hours and it went on and on. There is a certain way i get to the elevator. I drive a tank right upto and slightly on the elevator entrance. No guards can get in and eventually the stars will go.

[tresshold]

the alien egg most of have a link to the sunken ufo, witch is in my opinion the only alien aircraft.

it could be also in the ufo above the hippie camp.

but other then that it has to be underwater, because to whole map is turned inside out.

[XMarqstheSpot]

Y'know, I think Brian deserves our recognition of the fact that he was screaming the metaphoric significance of GTA at us while we were all still going la-la-la with our fingers in our ears and jacking off at the thought of a shiny new jetpack. I don't know exactly who he's annoyed with but it's probably XMarqs since many of Brian's ideas have been rehashed and repackaged by XMarqs for the consumption of GTA forums, yet no credit given to the source. In fact, XMarqs even emulated Brian's enigmatic blogging style when posting here, again giving no credit to the source of inspiration. Maybe that could be why Brian's not happy about sh*t right now?

I NEVER "copied" anyone as far as i know.

 

I never read B's Blog until i already had received the Truth.

 

Reading his blog only reinforced that i had found The Truth.

 

He seems to think that nobody else is intelligent enough to understand The Truth, and only he can lead people to the promised land.

 

If anyone else finds Truth, it must have been because of his Blog, which again, i never read until after the fact, so...?

 

B was not the guy to open everyone;s eyes to the Metaphoric, people were always going in these directions, they just tried to go from A to B to C to D like scientifically minded people, which is no fault of their own by the way.

 

The guy has obviously put a LOT of work in to his Blog and i agree it should be recognized for the accomplishment that it is but, it still doesn't change the fact that he is not Moses, chosen to lead us out of the desert.

 

B won't give you the missing information that he's holding on to that opens the encryption of The Tract but, i will to those who simply ask for it.

 

The Truth is not for me to deny anyone, only you can deny yourself of The Truth.

 

 

None but ourselves can free our minds.

 

 

EDIT: And just so he doesn't think i don't like him, which is absolutely opposite of how i feel, i will say HE is spot on about evolution and 1:1.

 

When i talk about "Evolution" and use that word, i simply use it to evoke the image of change that everyone can relate to. He was pointing out that Evolution is a lie, which is correct, so ALL CREDIT to him for that.

 

He just doesn't explain what he means and simply declares The Truth, which is not wrong, because it is The Truth but, it's only the Truth when all parts are accounted for. you can't hold pieces from people and still claim to be showing them absolutely and being completely helpful.

 

It's an Ego thing but, we all do it, i did it also, it's out of our control, so...

Edited February 7, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[the_grizzly_man]

Just done some research based on this pic I took recently as it seemed odd

 

 

The 'I.M. Voland' bit stood out - as in possibly meaning "I am Voland".

 

Turns out Voland was a demonic character in Goethe's Faust - where the protagonist sells his soul to the devil in return for earthly riches and secret knowledge - sounds a bit like GTAV's main characters, no?

 

Voland (as Satan) appears in Mikhail Bulgakov novel The Master and Margarita where he "satirizing the vanity, greed and gullibility of the new rich" (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita#Plot_summary)

 

Got me thinking that R* are referencing Faust/Bulgakov in satirizing the whole donating money to Epsilon/Children of the Mountain in return for 'knowledge' and enlightenment and also the characters doing some pretty horrible things in the pursuit of money.

 

Finally, on the whole GTAV karma, a quote from Bulgakov's book that seemed relevant...

 

“What would your good do if evil didn't exist, and what would the earth look like if all the shadows disappeared?”

 

PS; Rev. I.M. Voland also sounds like R* acknowledging their Scottish roots - there was a famous Scottish comedy character - a miserable priest called Rev. I.M. Jolly

Edited February 7, 2014 by the_grizzly_man

[SHARKEM]

anyone good at geometry? i read a reference to a lake being a mirror from the tracts afaik? this coupled with the whole green light reflection saga makes me think chiliad ufo is a reflection of the hippy ufo. so if we take their xyz co-ordinates and triangulate a reflection position, no doubt on the alamo sea, we may find a light or something at this point when the rain/ 3am conditions are met, or something below the water. we would also need a z co-ordinate for the surface of the alamo sea.

Edited February 7, 2014 by SHARKEM

[cocogen2003]

Well, I am going to begin my grid by grid search of the map starting with B4, paleto bay. I would start in the water but I think that should be a whole different expedition. Will start with all the land in the area, will do thorough walk through and I mean walk, seeing how hard the sand glyph is to spot, we may have passed something mindblowing thousands of times. After I'm done with land will search air at different altitudes until maxed out. Then work from left to right all the way down. I hope others will join in because I'm sure what I'm planning will take at least a couple hours each grid area. Together with someone or two people searching land, one in air, one in water, or any combination, we WILL find something.

 

Edit: I'm using the TPE blueprint map for my grid coordinates. Heard the maps had one or more letter/number depending on version of the game.

Edited February 7, 2014 by cocogen2003

[TirkaneX]

My return about colors settings on tv

 

I've removed Blue, Green, Yellow and red colors and keep magenta and cyan.

 

By Day a lot of things are grey and a few things is normaly colored. And I was @ observatory to pbserve the city. with the sniper we can see all non-textured things and all terxtured thing.

 

By night, I have not observed a long time but I found that all the colors back to normal!

 

there is also a lot more textures that appear and disappear, day and night.

 

At the center of the sun there's a little brighter circle

Edited February 7, 2014 by TirkaneX

[LiquidNitrogen]

@Tirkanex keep trying the color stuff but I personally don't think it would lead anywhere. Its wierd to think that R* would hide stuff to the point where we would have to change the color settings on the TV to find hidden stuff being that not all TVs allow you to change those settings. Correct me if I'm wrong about the TVs.

[cocogen2003]

lolol. If someone wants to start on the grid search with me that'd be awesome. I'm only half way done with the Paleto bay town, and everything in the B4 area. Dawning on me that its gonna be a very long process alone. Walking in stealth mode to help take in everything helps too.

[TirkaneX]

They have talk about Hd universe, hyper-reality. It's just an idea, and I report that i see with these settings.

 

I precise I don't talk about filters but colors themselves..

 

The interessant thing is that you have on one side my settings who "hide" the colors and on the otherside the color of the game how change between night and day(obv). With these two parameters you have a completly different view. And maybe, a view of what we search.

 

If "X" have a certain color which mingles with the color of the video game (sun, moon, artificial light), it will be very difficult to find. With these settings, we can see; 1; that is textured or not; 2; see what is normally difficult maybe impossible to see.

 

Another idea would be to find the color during the day and night and remove it. As I say I'm not an expert but I have already reported some interesting obsevrations.

 

Another thing, when i check my "pushstart" map I can see the proprties of M(blue) and F(green) but T properties are in grey. like english said, wtf.

Edited February 7, 2014 by TirkaneX

[LiquidNitrogen]

@Cocogen where's the grid