GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[Uncle Cletus]

Nah, false alarm. I was way off. I couldn't have been more way off. I wasn't even playing the right San Andreas. Lucky that thread is gone or I'd have looked like a complete idiot claiming that in the Chiliad Mural thread.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@dfur4m. I cannot see it and i have never updated my game if that helps. Gonna keep trying today though.

 

@uncle cletus. Lmao.

[DFur4M]

Sorry for being a bit late but,

 

regarding the characters personalities and what they represent, here´s the obvious one that i didnt read and i think it was said by R* or it has been discussed before, not sure.

 

Franklin is the classic GTA character, a guy who is getting into the game and making his way up

Michael is the classic GTA character after the game, retired, already played his part, but got bored and went back to business

Trevor is the player who likes to free roam, always making troubles and with a very aggressive personality

[DFur4M]

great, we need more answers and we might at least know why some can and some cannot see it

 

and if that would be the case, then we know for sure that is not glitch and it is there for a reason.. besides, imo is way too detailed to be a glitch

 

@cletus... that was, really funny, thanks for the laugh

Edited February 4, 2014 by DFur4M

[Ungreth]

I think the green light is possibly not a glitch put positioned there simply for aesthetic effect and to draw your eye towards the shores of Humane Labs if you're passing by doing a shoreline sweep in a chopper or boat, as if to say there's something cool to investigate over here. There are plenty of other lights in the game without a definitive source which are only there to augment the visual ambiance of the game.

Edited February 4, 2014 by Ungreth

[cocogen2003]

"You are being controlled by lots of powerful forces you do not understand - like gravity. Just as an apple sometimes flies up from a tree and becomes a great Eagle, so what seems like greed can in its own way be the most selfless act of all."

 

Kraff does not see fit yet that I fully understand this passage from the Tract. Brother-brother X¿

 

Kifflom

[Scoobysrt]

You are doing well to see it on a flyby.

I suggest those wading in with an opinion of a glitch to go look at it first.

 

My game had the first patch but non since and no dlc.

 

 

Edit, the blue light is One of those colour spots you get when looking at the sun imho.

Im assuming the poster of that pic didnt take it and didnt bother to tell us it wasnt his. He saw a blue speck and posted it.

Im not saying it isnt there until ive tried all wrather and times but until now ive been unable to produce a blue spot on the water but have had the colour spots in the air on a sunny day.

Edited February 4, 2014 by Scoobysrt

[TirkaneX]

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Edited February 13, 2014 by TirkaneX

[Scoobysrt]

The sea is blue as well as the sky.

When does the sea turn green? When the quarry gets rid of its yellow.

When the sea turns green the sky will turn red with blood.

 

The dinosaur is real but the trees tell lies.

 

Just thought that was interesting.

[Ungreth]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I feel we should put all prior prejudices aside and invite Brian to return to the forums so he can specifically contribute to this discussion. This new thread has opened the door for some eccentric and left field ideas to be bounced around without annoying other forum users who are just looking for a jet pack, so I see no reason why Brian's unique interpretations of the game's metaphors should continue to be excluded here if he can commit to keeping things civil and productive, and somehow contain his notoriously volatile temper, which I'm sure he would do if given a second chance.

 

I know that Brian is currently banned but maybe Raavi would show lenience if enough people here were in favor of him returning, and I'm gonna hazard a guess that the thread creator XMarqs might have no problem with it either.

 

So...?

[TirkaneX]

On more time. Can we suppose just a minut that the sand glyph symbol could be a top view of the lighthouse? I would like some return on this possibility.

[Scoobysrt]

 

Tract Cheat Sheet.

 

See if this makes sens of The Tract for you, or at least opens it up for you to translate almost completely.

 

He who hungers while others are rich shall someday be rich himself" = Manifest Generosity to achieve Truth Form.

 

Apple = Us. Also Reptile/Lizard.(Some Lizards transcended Walking/crawling to become birds who fly)

 

Manifest Genirosity = Go in to debt and let THEM take everything, leaving THEM powerless.

 

The God Head = The idea of, the goal of "Manifest Genirosity". This is how you achieve Truth Form.

 

Truth Form = Evolution, Paradigm Shift, Transcending(like the Lizards)

 

Kraff = the explosion of upwards thought, the enlightened, the ones who the change is happening in

 

EDIT: If anyone has a particular sentence/paragraph of The Tract that they want me to translate for them, and then post, i would be happy to do so, as i believe i'm 95% accurate.

 

Just quote the Tract and i will translate and re-post as soon as i can get to it.

For some reason i cant read the full first post, i can see the song lyrics but i dont see anything else.

I thought this was all solved and was looking forward to reading up on it.

 

Thanks for the offer of translation, heres a few bits im not sure on and would like some translation,

 

Chapter 1, Verse 1 Omega

From omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have consistently got things backwards. I know that now. I am not alive. I am dead. I am not rich, I am poor. I am not from Earth at all.

Contrary to what you know, life is not life at all. It is all an illusion. You are being controlled by lots of powerful forces you do not understand like gravity. Just as an apple a sometimes flies up from a tree and becomes a great Eagle, so what seems like greed can in its own way be the most selfless act of all.

The act of loving only one, the god head, is the act of loving all, the people as god head. That is clear to those who seek, and seek we must and pay we must. Seeking without paying is not living, it is living on the cheap. Epsilonism is an extensive religion. Only for those with the wisdom to afford it. Wisdom is our most valuable commodity and that is why we pay highly for it.

 

Chapter 1, Verse 2

To be an Epsilonist is to be rich in powerful tools. Tools are held in the belt by some, and in the mind by others. The most powerful tool of all is the tool of manifest generosity towards ideas, towards upward. That is, sometimes a peach tree issues forth fire and a great dove becomes born. That dove is money and the money should be spend by all to achieve manifest generosity. as each paradigm has shown those who understand. And manifest generosity is the god head and being the god head is the movement towards truth form. Truth form is important but it is difficult for the wrong to understand, so ask yourself, am I the right?

And I prove that through my adherence to manifest generosity and by the Eagle and the dove and the peach tree and upward gravity and by understanding, above all, this manifest truth form? Yea, to some this will seem hard to understand but it will be revealed, and to some it will see hard to understand and it will not be revealed because they did not seek truly because they were the wrong form of bird or topiary. If you seek wisdom, you will pay for it and seeking and paying are the same thing as is understanding, if you want it to be.

 

Chapter 1, Verse 3

Upwards flows the truth form, and so upward flows manifest generosity, and this, is how we become rich. That is, to be generous to those who know the truth form, who truly understand it, and to be so upward in our manifest generosity, yes, or yea as Kraff sometimes says meaning much the same, those or those who are truly blessed, who are the right and are known as not just of Kraff, but by Kraff and true to that which kraff understood. So let yourself know those upwards of you, and be known by them. The is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised through manifest generosity.

 

Chapter 2, Verse 1 Psi

If you understand this, you know all things, and if you know all things you are of Kraff, just as Kraff took the form of an Eagle or a peach tree, as the literature has shown and as the tract now makes manifest, likens its generosity, which should be upwards and manifest and like it in truth form, which should be understood.

If you are confused you are wrong, as Kraff made clear, confusion was not merely confusion, but proof of all that is wrong, and if you believe, then nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the apple tree that becomes a dove or the other way around.

Chapter 2 Verse 2

 

Nothing shows truth form more than upwards generosity and nothing shows wrongness more than doubt. No one is weaker than the questioner. Not one person. Not even a really weak person, without any strength at all. Or a lettuce. Yes, I want to be clear, as clear as the lake which truth lives, which is another metaphor I will come back to, as Kraff came back for us across Paradigms in this 9^th Paradigm, year 157. Hear them speak, oh lovers of arboreal wisdom! Hold on to the peach tree and the apple tree and give all that you have in faith and watch fruits flow upward to a bountiful harvest. He who hungers while others are rich shall someday be rich himself

 

Chapter 2, Verse 3

The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again.

 

Chapter 2, Verse 4

Cast off the cane. Not only does questioning kill you, it also kills everyone you love. It means you do not love them and you wish them to die. That is clear now. To doubt is to wish death on everyone, that that is all the proof you need that the world, the apple tree, the peach tree, the dove, the Eagle are good things, and of Kraff, but there are also many bad things. And those bad things are doubt. And also upwards generosity , is the most bounteous thing of all. And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where truth lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one day become and Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake.

 

 

Chapter 3, Verse 1 Chi

Give and you shall receive. As someone else said, but whomever said that was themselves a brilliant man and a friend of Cris, as all brilliant men are, and a fantastic Epsilonist like all the greater thinkers and philosophers and celebrities. The literature has been clear on that, and now the tract makes clear. Indeed, there is a lake where truth lives and in this lake an egg lived and out of that egg came forth a whole new world. And that world was this world and this metaphor now ends, and a new one begins. The new metaphor is the tract and the tract is truth and truth form and a few ideas laid down and many left out.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 2

No seed is wasted, for seeds of man or tree are a lie. The apple tree and peach tree lie together in the same orchard, yet there are many trees, just as a man of Epslion must lie with nine new partners a week lest he wither at the vine.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 3

Land left unplowed goes fallow, for in all things there is an agrarian analogy, for the world was created before television. If a woman does not lie with five upward men of Epsilon a day on the seventh month, the harvest will surely be meager.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 4

To understand completely is to be complete. That is the central maxim of our knowledge. And knowledge requires no faith. We are not a religion. We are a science and a way of understanding everything. And to know everything is to know that money is your greatest transience and all money should not tie you in a place but free you to give upwards and to not doubt that doing so is the most complete thing you can do and that those who doubt you are death dealers and haters of the Eagle and the dove and the peach tree and the lake of truth and they wish you dead. Cast them from your lives, and cast a line into the lake, for it will feed you.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 5

Everything was will be and has a cycle, just as a fool who saves his fruit sees it rot, a wise man sends his fruit towards the upwards. You have it in you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the empty place in which objection and death unite as one.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 6

Doubters shall be spaded under and given a chance to serve as a garden for descendants of Kraff. I shall not weep. For tears of salt poison the garden and this is our time of joy.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 7

Negativity is a double and a single. It is always negative. The point of life is smiling. And nothing makes you smile more than knowing the truth form and the truth form is 157 years old and the great battle between Kraff and the Unsaveables that exsists in this paradigm, the 9^th paradigm and all proceeding paradigms back to the 4^th paradigm. This is a battle we must win, just like the end of a movie, including those made by and starring many top celebrities who are themselves Epsilonists, just like most top philosophers and thinkers are. This is a battle we can win

 

Chapter 4, Verse 1 Upsilon

Upward generosity and acknowledgement of the truth is to us as truth is to the lake and gravity is to the apple tree and fire is to water and doubt is to the Unsaveable. Previous ideas have been spoken by all of the great men of carbon who were often secret Epsilonists, although unrevealed until this moment. None are dead. They sit with Cris in physical or cerebral form and the space travel is complete, both across paradigms and with your Earth time, year 157. This is the tract. It was always written. It was never written.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 2

We are all from the same tree. Yet no one shall believe that a winged lizard could fly or a man with hair the color of a rose does not bring doom with lies. This is a true as the evil of doubt.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 3

Just as man and woman make water differently, they shall not do it in the marital bed or on one another unless they that are upwards with the hierarchy demands it, and even then not that often. Hierarchy is all and upwards generosity is all. Look upwards and see the stars. This is a kingdom, the kingdom of Kraff, ruled by Cris, and there are servants and disciples and the unsaveables who become fertilizer. That is a new metaphor that will carry into the next paradigm, wherever it shall lie, even onto bumper stickers. For that which has higher meaning must be told in all manner possible, by oracles, by brother to brother, and condensed into phrases that others need understand while trapped in traffic and seeking escape.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 4

Those who doubt do not get to lie with new partners, instead they will be cooked In the death they bring upon themselves. Indeed the worst the imagine through doubt is what they will get. Like being raped by a bull-form or a being the last station in a nasty prison train, or watching everyone they know have a joyful orgy and they are not invited. That is what doubters will get. Nothing but bad things, including getting raped by animals and not going to orgies. There should be no need to repeat that a third time. The peach tree talks and the apple tree talks, you hear them and you know. You do not hear them and you know you are a doubter and an unsaveable.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 5

Your earth partner is to be cherished and therefore shared with the utmost generosity upwards like all things. And what is upwards generosity? That we shall come to, once we have once more focused upon the work of the unsaveables, and that work is questioning and doubting. It is not the scientific way to doubt. Let that be made clear. It is the way of the thorn bush or the cactus. They do not speak. Not even a little.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 6

The cactus only grows from sand. Sand makes and earth partner, for from sand comes glass that forms the pitcher of truth from the lake that holds a cutting from the peach tree. And once the earth becomes like the cactus they must be cast out and a newer younger earth partner shall take their place.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 1 Tau

Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle I mentioned above.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 2

The mark of Kraff adorns many who are blessed. Some descendants of Kraff have a mark of birth that adorns the elbow, or buttocks, nut he who has the stain of wine on his head or face they drink with Kraff in the 4^th paradigm.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 3

Do not forget about the dove. The dove is the dove of love and of truth that is an old metaphor and one that unites all knowledge under Epsilonism, and like all who pursue truth and love he does not just by manifesting upward generosity but also by killing unsaveables in the great fight between Kraff and his enemies that has gone on for paradigms. In the 4^th paradigm it was energy. In the fifth paradigm it was fire. In the 6^th paradigm it was the love of ignorance and the Eagle. In the 7^th it was the great dispute in which unsaveables learnt to take the form of conflicted reason. In the 8^th, it was amnesia. In this 9^th it is within the being form that is red, and he with red and of red in the hair form is not of Kraff and he is the embodiment of that which is Unsaveable. All these paradigms will be revealed to you through upwards generosity. Their meaning shall be made clear as your role in the great battles will be made cleat. Nothing is truer to the dove of love than killing unsaveables.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 4

And what is this thing of which you speak? What is this upwards generosity? It is the most precious thing, the giving to those who do not need, so cannot be challenged for greed, who have so much they do not need anymore and therefore can receive your gift kindly and with the truth form and with understanding that is everything. It is the gift towards Cris, to Cris, or any other senior epsilonists who are his form in your life as all senior Epsilonists are the same spirit and mind form in this paradigm, as the Eagle is the peach tree and other metaphors also become blurred. It is by asking Cris to receive that we ourselves get the most, that is the clearest thing.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 5

And if not Cris then the program itself for the program knows truth and by paying for truth we guarantee its veracity. Just like the top celebrities and great thinkers who are open Epsilonists and many other whom you do not know are Epsilonists but happily triple tithe their upward generosity as they owe everything to the program and acknowledge this. Triple tithing makes a truth form more true.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 6

Nothing is more true than giving all that you have including that which you do not yet have, like loans or mortgages or indeed that which has been taken by Unsaveables and must be taken from them. The world of this paradigm belongs to us, and so return it to us. By giving it to Cris, he will save it for all of us. By knowing us, he knows all. By saving us, he saves all who can be saved. Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9^th paradigm. Kifflom.

[TirkaneX]

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Edited February 13, 2014 by TirkaneX

[Scoobysrt]

Invite brian back?

Lol you obviously didnt have to deal with him.

 

He is not welcome on the rest of the forum, ever, so to 'invite' him back for your little discussion? Lol never gonna happen.

 

He is an absolute nut job, hes probably sat in a corner with his tin foil hat on eating his own excrement.

After his death threats, homophobia, foul mouthed insults etc etc i seriously doubt hes welcome anywhere except his local mental residence.

[Scoobysrt]

On more time. Can we suppose just a minut that the sand glyph symbol could be a top view of the lighthouse? I would like some return on this possibility.

Ok, yes its possable.

Anything is possable.

Whats your point/theory.

[cocogen2003]

@scoobs. where did you find that¿ i re-wrote the thing just to have it to look at when im not home(in game).

[cocogen2003]

Edit, the blue light is One of those colour spots you get when looking at the sun imho.

Im assuming the poster of that pic didnt take it and didnt bother to tell us it wasnt his. He saw a blue speck and posted it.

Im not saying it isnt there until ive tried all wrather and times but until now ive been unable to produce a blue spot on the water but have had the colour spots in the air on a sunny day.

If your referring to my pic, it is mine. It is there at all times, and changes the angle you need to see it. I've written this off as a dumb lighting glitch and that's my opinion on it, because I've also seen an orange one with Trevor flying over the open ocean, therefore it's probably just nothing. *cough* green spot*cough*

 

edit: IF you're referring to my pic

Edited February 4, 2014 by cocogen2003

[Ungreth]

Invite brian back?

Lol you obviously didnt have to deal with him.

 

He is not welcome on the rest of the forum, ever, so to 'invite' him back for your little discussion? Lol never gonna happen.

 

He is an absolute nut job, hes probably sat in a corner with his tin foil hat on eating his own excrement.

After his death threats, homophobia, foul mouthed insults etc etc i seriously doubt hes welcome anywhere except his local mental residence.

 

Indeed yes, I have actually been on the receiving end of a torrent of abuse from him. Difference 'tween you and I is that I've just let it wash over me without getting butt hurt about it and I only ever listened to the thought provoking insights he offered in his calmer, more lucid moments.

 

I'm sure he won't mind me saying that "Brian" is simply an alter-ego deliberately created to provoke people into seeking out his blog, believing that they will be the one to debunk his "crazy" ideas once and for all, yet in the process gain some insight that will help them open their eyes to the metaphoric subtext of the game. Which is what we're all discussing here anyway

 

If nobody else is in agreement then fair enough...but it does no harm to open up an objective dialogue about it instead of whispering his name in hushed tones for fear of evoking the devil himself.

Edited February 4, 2014 by Ungreth

[Scoobysrt]

Ay ay ay before you get your panties in a bigger twist,

I think youll find im more than happy to investigate as you can very well see by what ive done for the green one but i cant see the blue one yet.

I can only say it how i see it.

Whenever im thete during sunlight i get the colour spots but nothing in tbe sea. I need to do more checking but thought an update before it was forgotten.

Im sorry but your early posts didnt endear me to you in fact the opposite so maybe i did come across not as intended.

 

Do you have a location for the orange one?

Edited February 4, 2014 by Scoobysrt

[TirkaneX]

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Edited February 13, 2014 by TirkaneX

[cocogen2003]

No panties have been twisted, it's go commando or it's no go. It's just there's been like 2 pages spent on this thing and nothing has become of it except more theories but thats the same with this whole thread. I just feel surely with all the minds at work at this forum something would have been found for a projector of the green light or it would have been tucked away for further investigation, not all over the V'oclock news. The orange one I saw was in a jet with Trevor over the western part of the ocean, from what I could tell it wasn't a reflection of sun or moon as it was dusk and no moon was visible yet and the sun was just setting. It stayed in the same position, in front of me, the length of the game map.

 

Edit: Also stayed to my right as I followed the bottom of the map west to east.

 

Kifflom

Edited February 4, 2014 by cocogen2003

[Ungreth]

Ungreth,

 

It's impossible to communicate with a convinced person. You can enter in his world but he's unable to enter in your, our world.

 

Possibly. My personal experience of him would suggest otherwise, but I guess we'll never know if we don't give him a chance.

[Scoobysrt]

Dont get me wrong, i was one of the main instigators in getting brian on his path. i suggested that the xs on the drawing were heists and that its how you play the game that counts suggesting we need to play with karma and be good to everyone.

 

He then went beserk on the subject, started posting publicly what he did then got banned multiple times.

 

At the beginning i thought it was all show but as time progressed it became obvious its not a joke, he really does have serious metal issues.

 

Ill tell you now, there is not a chance in hell he will be allowed back on here, at least i hope not.

[TirkaneX]

About this gyph :

 

 

the 3 I I I represent the 3rd night of the last quarter moon cycle , friday.

 

And if the glyphs wasn't only clues for discover the Mc ufo?

[Scoobysrt]

You have to understand that a problem gets solved by discussing it and exchausting all possabities regarding it.

 

For me myself and others, weve been tbere, done that and have the cotm t shirt.

Somthing new like a green spot is of course going to get some attention and be explored.

What would you like to see instead? Posts going on about bonking tbe space docker again?

 

If your blue or orange lights are found then they will have the same treatment.

 

There were many people tbat said they coildnt see the green one but they did eventually.

 

I cant understand the attitude of some people in this thread, you moan when people post old old old hat stuff and you moan when people post new stuff.

 

Ive stated twice now that ive found my hidden cave and yet not one dingle person has asked about it, im absolutly amazed by that but then i do get the impression that my posts are in the main ignored, some say they read them but obviously not well enough.

I do realise some fellow hunters do take the time to properly read my posts but most dont.

 

I broke my phone ladt week so typing is a nightmare on tjis loan one, i think its time i gave this place a rest.

 

Good luck guys.

Edited February 4, 2014 by Scoobysrt

[MrEZmoneymaker]

You have to understand that a problem gets solved by discussing it and exchausting all possabities regarding it.

 

For me myself and others, weve been tbere, done that and have the cotm t shirt.

Somthing new like a green spot is of course going to get some attention and be explored.

 

I agree scoob. I had dismissed this green light as a lighting glitch from the start when first reading about it, but you have to investigate it & get your own conclusions, as everybody sees things differently or spots things others didnt. take the seeing it without a chopper that i just couldnt for hours, yet deadman provided proof that you could. This made me search more & i to did eventually see it but very faintly amongst the waves. This is how we can debunk things properly.

I can also make this green light move about with the controller as others above have posted. This points to it not being a stationary object & more likely a light glitch to me. But as ive stated before, this is my opinion & if others provide further proof i will look into it more, even if its just to confirm what they have seen, it may not help the hunt further but atleast narrows down our possibilities.

By the way im really liking how the forum is working together on things these days. Makes a pleasant change & back to what it was like previously.

So where do you think we can take this light image to? others feel its under the water yet my own searches of that cove reveal nothing? hopefully Karoi can clear this up with the water mod for us. This just leaves something in the sky if its not in the water. Ive been flying all over that part of the map at max height & havent spotted a thing myself.

@Can0dope - no the ufo's can not be seen online. the ss & fz ones are there tho you just cant see them.

@X- i know it can be frustrating when you feel you have the answers or possible lead & nobody is listening, i have this many times on the previous thread. I prefer most of the thread all work on one thing & debunk or confirm it as is happening at present.

[Deadman2112]

@Scooby

I didnt ask about the cave because in your post you said you found nothing significant there

I thought to myself well Scooby is pretty decent hunter

if he didn't find anything significant then it might not be worth investigating

so that's why I never asked anything further about it

please share the location

I would be more than willing to look into it

 

@cocogen2003

I look for your spot for 3 days but couldn't find it

I'm not saying its not there but apparently these things obviously require a specific location and angle to be viewed from

can you give us an exact location that you are at when you can view this thing

if you roll back a few pages

many couldn't find the green spot then I posted the exact location of the map that it can be viewed from and now others are finding it

just a suggestion flip over to the map in the game and take a photograph of the exact location you are in when you can see it

 

@TirkaneX

the original view of this glyph was interpreted as nighttime 3 a.m.

I don't think anyone has thought of it as the final three stages of the moon

but that is a rather interesting way of looking at it so what is your conclusion as to what it's pointing to?

 

@EZ

like I said a few pages ago I don't think anyone is saying that the light isn't glitching through something

I think the biggest questions are

where and what is it coming from?

when you can see this thing at its brightest intensity that tells you that you are looking at it at its best angle that it can be viewed from and that best angle is a straight line back in side of the mountain

there are no light sources in that direction so what and where is it coming from

 

also I'm not sure how high you have your brightness set on maybe that is the reason you can't see it as well as others

Edited February 4, 2014 by Deadman2112

[cocogen2003]

The blue one I found moves with your physical location, like a real reflection would. So it's hard to say exactly where, besides that general area(already mentioned). It's just that when there isn't something that would cause it, like the moon or sun or bright light, it's there I observed, which is why I think it's just a small bug of contradicting lines of code in the game. For the sake that it could help I'll keep trying to get better info on it.

Edited February 4, 2014 by cocogen2003

[MrEZmoneymaker]

On more time. Can we suppose just a minut that the sand glyph symbol could be a top view of the lighthouse? I would like some return on this possibility.

The lighthouse has been thoroughly looked at previously for that exact same reasoning. Nothing was found then, & if you have a good valid reason to think it could? then an explanation other than it looks like a lighthouse may help others see your point. Personally with the file guys revealing it being named mountain_clue in the game files i am very reluctant to change my opinion on it not being a representation of a mountain myself. I feel it is chiliad & the MC ufo. This i have stated for months even before the file guys found the glyph file.

Edited February 4, 2014 by MrEZmoneymaker

[Diogo Pepper]

As I've said before, the green light is certainly a bug lighting because you can see it anytime, and if you look good and wear it when you are perfectly on top of the laboratory at a certain height, which has the same light green. I even got to design it on the mountain side, but is very difficult to take photo.

With respect to online UFO, yesterday I was playing and when I got in the game was midnight and it was raining, then I decided to go get the helicopter on Mount Chiliad, but I had to kill a nub that was me after 3 times, and only got the 4 hours in the lot, and did not see anything, but then went to the hippie camp and he did not appear, but if you stay in the supposed location of it, you vera interference on the screen.