GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[Scoobysrt]

X, why wont you start a new thread on the subject?

Your refusal to is starting to look like your trying to A) scrap this thread and B) get yourself banned.

 

Someone posts about something physical in game then someone spends a page making sure its buried in other things.

Its more than irritating.

[XMarqstheSpot]

X, why wont you start a new thread on the subject?

Your refusal to is starting to look like your trying to A) scrap this thread and B) get yourself banned.

 

Someone posts about something physical in game then someone spends a page making sure its buried in other things.

Its more than irritating.

I didn't bury anything

 

I was responding to something someone posted, is that a crime?

 

It wasn't even metaphorical in any way, it was just talking like regular people talk, wtf?

 

I can keep the metaphor stuff out of the topic but, deleting EVERYTHING i post is absurd, and ridiculous.

 

 

Anyways, The iceberg still = The Mural, its not even metaphorical, it's just fact. not really any argument about it from the naysayers, they just ignored it completely.

 

You're not going to find any more clues in the game, you're going to have to do some web searching to find out some connections.

 

Again, non of this is metaphorical, just how it is.

X, why wont you start a new thread on the subject?

Your refusal to is starting to look like your trying to A) scrap this thread and B) get yourself banned.

 

Someone posts about something physical in game then someone spends a page making sure its buried in other things.

Its more than irritating.

Physical, like the Sand glyph for the 300th time?

 

again, is this type of infinitely circling searching getting you guys any closer than you were 2 months ago?

 

If i was you guys i would be excited if someone came in with new ideas and thoughts to add instead of the Sand glyph over and over. but you just burn people out for not coloring withing the lines.

 

whats that all about? psychological problems, maybe?

Edited February 2, 2014 by XMarqstheSpot

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@Xmarqs. None of it is factual either but you seem to preach that it is. Why haven't you made your thread yet?

 

Just stick to what is in front of us and stop with the endless posts of this nature. You are only going to get yourself banned.

[XMarqstheSpot]

See, everything deleted, Censorship turned up to 11.

 

Well, now that i wont "Clog" up the forum, you guys will probably have the mystery solved in about an hour, right?

[XMarqstheSpot]

@Xmarqs. None of it is factual either but you seem to preach that it is. Why haven't you made your thread yet?

 

Just stick to what is in front of us and stop with the endless posts of this nature. You are only going to get yourself banned.

EXACTLY, nothing is factual, so i'm not burning you down for your ideas.

 

why you have to worry about what i'm doing, do your own thing ad let me do mine.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

@xmarqs then go do your thing then and create your new thread like you said you would.

 

It's becoming almost impossible to follow any leads or devise ways forward when you are constantly filling up the thread with your pretentious mumbo jumbo.

Edited February 2, 2014 by TrevorsStinkyFingers

[krafffrom9]

for sure you can continue to write again and again of the sames things (write of the physical part without search thier meaning)

nobody will prevent you...

 

an others small help for the sign RON at paleto: (night)

reverse this sign...and now have you an idea?...

 

Kifflom!

[Raavi]

Please ignore the PBM, just report him if he pops his head in again.

 

Again xMarqs, feel free to make a thread about the metaphorical and philosophical thread, just don't post it in here.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Raavi

[cocogen2003]

Anybody have any luck finding what leads us to the sand glyph¿ as it leads us to the hippy camp, which leads to either the Altruist camp or something i haven't read on the matter. I've searched the map up and down to no success, via air and satellite images. trying to work backwards so that the finish line may become clearer. Kifflom.

[XMarqstheSpot]

@xmarqs then go do your thing then and create your new thread like you said you would.

 

It's becoming almost impossible to follow any leads or devise ways forward when you are constantly filling up the thread with your pretentious mumbo jumbo.

Don't fool yourself or lie to the new comers, nobody has found any new leads in over 2 months, yes?

 

Pretentious? that's what somebody who knows absolutely everything about a game they had no help in creating would say. That's pretentious.

 

What new leads are there?

 

what new clues?

 

what new anything?

 

you guys ignore the people posting helpful info and only circle around the same old "Physical" stuff, time and time again, like a figure 8, yes?

 

I bring new ideas to the forum, you bring new...?

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

I'm just going to block your posts.

[XMarqstheSpot]

The EYE is watching you Masturbate...

I'm just going to block your posts.

Ok, your choice. should have done that a while ago if you didn't care about my posts.

 

why make a big scene about things "Clogging" up the forum if you can just ignore? LOL

 

Control freaks.

 

"Color within the lines!"

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

That's better.

 

@cocogen. i am in game now so will have a look.

[Raavi]

If mohammed won't come to the mountain..

 

Here you go Xmarqs a thread for philosophical and metaphorical discussion, keep it in there: http://gtaforums.com/topic/680675-looking-deeper-metaphors-and-philosophy/

 

Thanks.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Raavi

[DFur4M]

A shame that the topics have to be apart

Good luck finding whatever you guys can find, i´ll be following both topics

[DFur4M]

have you guys investigate the same ideas in gta v and in gta online? we all know that stuff dont spawn if the requirements are not present

[shoky]

 

 

@xmarqs then go do your thing then and create your new thread like you said you would.

 

It's becoming almost impossible to follow any leads or devise ways forward when you are constantly filling up the thread with your pretentious mumbo jumbo.

Don't fool yourself or lie to the new comers, nobody has found any new leads in over 2 months, yes?

 

Pretentious? that's what somebody who knows absolutely everything about a game they had no help in creating would say. That's pretentious.

 

What new leads are there?

 

what new clues?

 

what new anything?

 

you guys ignore the people posting helpful info and only circle around the same old "Physical" stuff, time and time again, like a figure 8, yes?

 

I bring new ideas to the forum, you bring new...?

wait lets see you the same person who said you work for rockstar you also didn't provide any new lead you just posted stuff don't get me wrong or anything bwt you have no rights to say hs not giving any leads actually he now has more info then you can gather up in a life time none of your posts we're helpful xoxoxoxoxo

[cerevantis74]

He does not want his own thread, he wants to clog and derail this one. It is he that does not follow up on logical leads, but continues to try and force feed his idea that nothing is to be found and he knows the answer.

Sound like a familiar whack job we knew in the past? Either the similarities are similar, or two is one.

Ignore list updated.

[cocogen2003]

I will be away from my console most of the day today as the superbowl will have me busy this afternoon. Though my mind never leaves the hunt, I will keep my posts to the bare minimum, only things i see helpful to others. Wish I could already be 47,000 places at once already! Kifflom everybody!

 

@TSF thanks, I've seen this as a good lead as far as answers to anything we don't know are concerned. Very interested in anything you find interesting.

[Raavi]

Don't worry, from this point forward all metaphorical/philosophical will get moved into XmarqsThespot's thread.

[tadd]

Can i just say... all the talk of hacking and stuff happened when i was in bed lol by the time i got back here i read a very weird PM i couldnt even understand...

 

I will say it one last time...

 

I am in a friendly manner asking R* devs on twitter for a hint... just a nod or anything to say we have found it all or there is a big thing we are missing... i have no desire to hack them or be an ass to them... i was an ass to phil but that is because he blocked me from following him and reported me for spam... i asked if he could please give us a hint... so yeh i feel justified calling him a wang lol

 

I will not clog this topic or any other... i will occasionally ask for retweets (no big deal if its at the end of an on topic post no?) And i will only bring it up again if i get a reply from them.

 

So now that is out of the way...

 

I see the metaphor hunt is going...

 

We now have this just for mural stuff...(which needs to be defined as to what is mural related)

 

And i feel now we need a general mystery topic...

 

I dont wanna come here any more and post updates from the files and info on certain things i have found because well, i couldnt tell you what they relate to most of the time.

 

Is the docker mural related?

Are hidden missions?

Is talk of the jetpack on reddit related?

 

Sorry to be an ass here but i just dont like the way this topic is headed so @raavi... please can we have a general easter egg/mystery hunt topic sooner rather than later... or can we resume normal service here?

 

For now i feel the need to clear up the jetpack talk... as i said before, reddit are a little behind us... yes there have been a few mentions of the jetpack in the files but it turns out they are false positives... the way the natives for scripts are being worked out means some fake or unconfirmed natives appear to be in the files... once one of the file guys gets to confirm or deny them though not one mention of the word jetpack has been found in the files.

 

@scooby... no idea if you have an issue with me or with others posting here but i for one have no intention of hacking or anything, just asking for a hint... most have ignored me so i move on... no big deal bro and as i said above i will not make it the topic of discussion only a foot note.

 

And @anyone else who is trying to tell me what i can or cannot do in this topic can lick my hairy lol ive put us back on track enough times that if i feel something is worth a quick mention i will mention it!!

 

Sorry for the rant but i am gone for the next day or so and i do not wanna come back to some place i dont feel welcome or like sharing my finds...

 

We are on the verge of splitting into a lot of small groups capable of nothing... our unity is our strength in this hunt, dont forget that.

 

Also i want to thank raavi quickly for putting his powers to good use and reminding to not feed the trolls and cleaning the place up... its good the metaphor hunt has moved but can we please try not to chase every subject out of the topic... that would mean my morse code work or files work or sound work is not welcome here and in all honesty, the file research is our only way of solidly confirming or denying things

 

See you all in 2 days. Behave yourselves!

Edited February 2, 2014 by tadd

[cocogen2003]

place marker

 

 

 

A little view into what me and X have taken great interest in and feel is either key, or has nothing to do with(but also important) the Chilliad Mural. In fact, it probably has so little to do with the mural that it may hold the key to it, like a camoflauge if you will. Anyways, here is X's thesis(beginning) of what we are trying to grasp. Kifflom!

 

 

::ROUGH DRAFT, many errors spelling errors withing, no doubt::

THE TRACT: Metaphorically speaking, of course... Written by XMarqsTheSpot.

"Cast off the cane. Not only does questioning kill you, it also kills everyone you love. It means you do not love them and you wish them to die." - THE TRACT: PSI - Chapter 2, Verse 4.

Let's start at the very beginning, a very good place to start. And the beginning is not 157 years ago, as The Tract tells you in metaphor.

This is not a literal meaning of The Earth being 157 years old, it means Our world, the world of the 9th Paradigm. The 9th Paradigm started

157(now 158) years ago, in 1856, when sigmund Freud was born. If you want to understand more about the game and the deeper meanings of the

The Tract, then i suggest to anyone that you look in to Sigmund Freud's work.

Back to the beginning, i'm going to quote some things from The Spiritual Guru Eckhart Tolle, and his book "A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose".

Withing these quotes we shall find the keys to unlocking the metaphor's of The Tract. Of course, if you don't keep an open mind, or come in to reading this breakdown of The Tract

with the strict purpose of debunking and/or trying to burn down the work i have out in to it, then you are an unsaveable, and you will be used to grow and fertilize the future

generations of cropping Truth Form's, yet, we shall not pick of the rotten crop, and only recycle it without second thought unto an even newer generation of Truth form's,

as The Tract makes clear in Chi: Chapter 3, Verse 6. "Doubters shall be spaded under and given a chance to serve as a garden for descendants of Kraff. I shall not weep. For tears

of salt poison the garden and this is our time of joy"

Back to Eckhart Tolle, and his Book, and the quotes i shall use...

- A New Earth: Chapter 1, The Flowering of Human Consciousness. -

"Earth, 114 million years ago, one morning just after sunrise: The first flower

ever to appear on the planet opens up to receive the rays of the sun. Prior to

this momentous event that heralds an evolutionary transformation in the life

of plants, the planet had already been covered in vegetation for millions of

years. The first flower probably did not survive for long, and flowers must

have remained rare and isolated phenomena, since conditions were most likely not

yet favorable for a widespread flowering to occur.

One day, however, a critical threshold was reached, and suddenly there would have

been an explosion of color and scent all over the planet"

In terms of The Tract and the metaphors within, the Flower represents Ideas, Thought, and Evolution. The usage of the Flower in terms of it dieing and the explosion of color and

scent would be thoughts and ideas, movements of Evolutionary thought, and spiritual Guru's, such as Jesus Christ. The World was not ready for these ideas, movements, and people yet

but, their message was seeded in many and grew unto even bigger groups, who then kept the message held tight, and shared the knowledge of Truth Form with others, who then

repeated the cycle of The God Head.

Like a baloon that swells with each breath you take, in and out, big, smaller, bigger, smaller, BIG, smaller, BIGGER, smaller, BOOM! The movement towards Truth Form will reach a

critical mass, The Shift will happen, and then the Eagles will sit with Cris And Kraff in the next Paradigm.

Edited July 13, 2014 by Barefoot Tiger

[Ungreth]

So will this thread focus on interpreting the metaphors presented by R* in GTA 5?

 

Or will it focus on interpreting Brian's....um, I mean...Xmarq's own metaphors?

[krafffrom9]

for the altruistes search "berber mythology" (sun and moon)

understand the blocked time in the game, the spiral and their comportment...

 

again don't forget to ask you why R* do that...

 

Kifflom!

Edited February 2, 2014 by krafffrom9

[cocogen2003]

I cannot quote brother-uncle X, but I intend anything I post here and think anything posted here should relate directly to all and any metaphors in GTA V. With the Tract of the 9th Paradigm being the biggest one, or having the most of them rather, it should be the foundation of which this thread is set. "To be an Epsilonist is to be rich in powerful tools. Tools are held in the belt by some and in the mind of others."

Kifflom!

[DFur4M]

i would also like to know what mural related is all about.. i feel like a couple of persons run this thread and if they don´t like what they are seeing then it should be banned or whatever

 

Im just a bit confused.. i´ve seen a lot of comments about stuff that shouldn´t be here, but i haven´t seen anything that would be like... post this or post that, but not this and not that.. how do i know what you´re gonna like and what not?

 

Not trying to be an asshole here, just want to know what is going on with that.. since for me everything that is "mystery" should be on this post since anything weird can be related to that, and it shouldn´t be a couple of persons the ones that decide what is wrong or what is right

[cocogen2003]

I feel you DFur, not that I'm bitching or erked by it. However, the topic of and general IDEA of metaphors in the game i believe deserved it's own thread anyway, due to reason those who think the same have brought up. It would just be TOO much for anyone (say visitors and non-members) to look through to find anything of value that pertains to them. Sure there's the search function but it took me a few days to grasp that concept, and I consider myself a serious hunter.

 

edit: sorry that was from way out of left field. It's killin' me not bein able to be home and searching like the rest of you!

Kifflom!

Edited February 2, 2014 by cocogen2003

[tresshold]

wow.....all I read is ranting.

[StangOne50]

Listen guys . Everyone here knows why we are here. It doesnt matter if the thread was called decoding the mural or decoding my balls.

 

We are all looking for something whether it be something huge like the jetpack or simple easter eggs .

 

Were at a point where new finds are gonna be slim pickins. So we shouldnt need 16 threads.

 

There are many clues outside the mural that point to the mural so I mean yeah we may get off topic here and there its gonna happen.

 

Its up to each of us to decide what to bring forth to the thread.

 

Were always gonna have trolls . Were always gonna have new guys (did you try honkin the sd up trevors moms ass).

 

It is what is it . Who cares what the thread is called. It started as a jetpack thread as I recall and now what 6 ? threads later here we all are .

 

The point is ... I dont have a point lol take what you want from it .

[TirkaneX]

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Edited February 13, 2014 by TirkaneX