GTA V Metaphors, Philosophy and Hidden Meanings.

[Crimie]

@Scooby No one is hacking anyones twitter accounts, thats not what this is about none of us condone that and no one asked him to do that, thats illegal im sure and if that guy above tries to do that then im sure he'll be dealt with accordingly,

 

We are just sending a few alien egg pics to Cris Formage and a few devs etc, and its not spamming, its retweeting, thats how it works, its like "Likes" in this forum thats how tweets get noticed, no ill intent meant here,

 

If you read the epsilon twitter you will see they enjoy communicating with fans in character as Cris Formage so why not worth a shot?Nothing to lose its not the new direction of the thread, it will all be kept to the twitter not here

 

Just trying to bring some attention to the mystery on social media, which is all the rage now apparently in 2014 not an attempt to hold you back from figuring out the green light and your hidden cave

 

SolveTheMyths, on 01 Feb 2014 - 9:28 PM, said:

I Think contacting R* Support, Asking the developers, or something that is not in the game is the ''Easy way'' and im pretty sure that they will not reply us.

 

We are asking for a clue or a nod from them to say there is more, or just to be acknowledged for what we know,

If I posted a solution here in this thread how to get a jetpack and you tried it and it worked that would be the easy way out aswell would it not?

Edited February 2, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[cerevantis74]

I posted this a bit ago. I have added a few opinionated things for others who might take an interest in connecting dots, looking at these writings as instructions on what to do in what order, or a checklist of some sort.

 

Since the Altruists mention a spectrometer, here are their writings in order of the color scale.

 

RED (Could be Trevor, following 3 items could be for him to perform)

See the eye (Location, Event: Top of Chiliad, See the UFO)

Give thanks (Only real known way atm is Trevor's delivery to camp)

Embrace the light (Location, Event: FZ bunker, Lights from 1-3, gives time to do prior to 3am UFO)

 

ORANGE (Trevor)

We are his children (??, could just be statement after top 3 performed)

 

YELLOW

Praise him (Only known way could be Yoga, praise the sun position)

 

GREEN (Franklin)

Sun of God (Possible reference to ministry, COTM membership)

Our path is lit (Possible statement?, event?)

 

BLUE (Michael)

He is Risen (??, Result of correct actions triggers event)

His light shines on us all (??, EE cracked, answer revealed to all)

 

Some of the writings seem to be things to do, some seem to be statements. Oddly enough, if you take just the 3 primary colors, R, Y, B, you get 4 instructive writings with what may be statements of the end result.

 

No one else has factored this. The 3 chars start color coded based on traits, but how did you or I play them? Could how we play each one actually change their colors? Could your Trevor be red/orange at the end, and mine be green?

Edited February 2, 2014 by cerevantis74

[shoky]

Still you don't understand.

 

To clarify, the options are:

 

Keeping the V2 thread.

Locking the V2 thread opening a V3 thread.

Locking the V2 thread opening a general Mystery Hunt thread.

 

So those of you sitting on the fence please understand that by doing nothing you are ultimately excluding yourselves from the decision.

 

If you have any problems or queries PM Raavi.

I say lock this thread open v3 of the same thing nothing we don't need this thread anymore since it has no information what so ever the only guy who finds stuff n post you other dn that everyone else finds useless things n allowed to upload they pics of it n just making this thread seem bad

[litlirishone]

I posted this a bit ago. I have added a few opinionated things for others who might take an interest in connecting dots, looking at these writings as instructions on what to do in what order, or a checklist of some sort.

 

Since the Altruists mention a spectrometer, here are their writings in order of the color scale.

 

RED (Could be Trevor, following 3 items could be for him to perform)

See the eye (Location, Event: Top of Chiliad, See the UFO)

Give thanks (Only real known way atm is Trevor's delivery to camp)

Embrace the light (Location, Event: FZ bunker, Lights from 1-3, gives time to do prior to 3am UFO)

 

ORANGE (Trevor)

We are his children (??, could just be statement after top 3 performed)

 

YELLOW

Praise him (Only known way could be Yoga, praise the sun position)

 

GREEN (Franklin)

Sun of God (Possible reference to ministry, COTM membership)

Our path is lit (Possible statement?, event?)

 

BLUE (Michael)

He is Risen (??, Result of correct actions triggers event)

His light shines on us all (??, EE cracked, answer revealed to all)

 

Some of the writings seem to be things to do, some seem to be statements. Oddly enough, if you take just the 3 primary colors, R, Y, B, you get 4 instructive writings with what may be statements of the end result.

 

No one else has factored this. The 3 chars start color coded based on traits, but how did you or I play them? Could how we play each one actually change their colors? Could your Trevor be red/orange at the end, and mine be green?

...not to mention the fact "he is risen" describes Michael's resurrection from the dead after North Yankton :-)

[cocogen2003]

what if during the epsilon missions we take the spectrometer to a key location(not replayable)¿ i've heard an altruist mention something like "do your worst, you'll never find our spectrometer!"...something i was thinking about and gonna try with one of my saves

 

edit: mission fail when leaving search area. back to drawing board

Edited February 2, 2014 by cocogen2003

[cocogen2003]

hmmm.. from the CrisFormage twitter page

 

Following the blue light to the truth fact! #kifflom

 

We do not exist in 1 time or place, the dinosaur understood this fact! #kifflom

[Deadman2112]

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Edited February 2, 2014 by Deadman2112

[Crimie]

Ok so one of the developers wrote back to tadd on twitter,its not much but its a start of communication.....who knows we might get a clue,those who are interested should check it out and retweet it to show how much community interest is at play...

 

Just seen a post on reddit, that makes alot of sense,

http://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1wqfu2/eye_in_the_sky_and_character_switch/

However, i had a very similiar idea in a thread here a long time before the game came out (July the day of the gameplay footage)

http://gtaforums.com/topic/564001-fib-satellite-character-switching/

^^^ I wasnt far off now was I?

The man is watching you, the mural is a guide to watch him back, also, the idea that we are the aliens would compliment the Scientology/Epsilon belief that "Aliens" from other dimensions are in control of peoples souls, (we are in a 3rd person view, that view switching from what may be the UFOs ( us in control of M/T/F) making them do bad things...even XMarqs 4th character theory fits in nicely with that. Hope thats not too metaphorical

Edited February 2, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[Druminator]

Just curious, does anyone know what happens when you send a check or money order to Cris Formage in real life using the address on the Epsilon website? What about when you fax 1-866-FUN-CULT? I think the address is fake but if you look up Cayman Islands it is Epsilon blue everywhere.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Druminator

[Crimie]

@Druminator The cayman Islands is just a joke, but lol alot of epsilon blue when you google image it!

the fax is real, apparently it sends you this

https://sites.google.com/site/programmeepsilonproject/the-epsilon-fax

The fax is still listed on the official site, could be worth a shot to fax it in present HD Los Santos

Edited February 2, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[Druminator]

That's cool I have been wondering what was up with that.

 

Another thing I just noticed is this seal. Wondering if it might hold a clue. Not sure why there's an Epsilon logo on the cities seal?

 

Edited February 2, 2014 by Druminator

[Crimie]

@Druminator

In San Andreas radio news stations, there was a report about " New Epsilon cult suspected of running the government & Vinewood"

This symbol in the HD version of the crest just about proves it, so it would appear they are like a somewhat parody of the illuminati & scientologists also.

 

Sorry if this has been brought up before but can anyone see the epsilon symbol in this newspaper clipping? They do talk about dinosaurs now and again lol it came out clearer in this camera filter ,its the white E in the middle of the picture im talking about

Heres the regular camera filter

Edited February 2, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[CanOdope]

@Druminator The cayman Islands is just a joke, but lol alot of epsilon blue when you google image it!

the fax is real, apparently it sends you this

https://sites.google.com/site/programmeepsilonproject/the-epsilon-fax

The fax is still listed on the official site, could be worth a shot to fax it in present HD Los Santos

What do you mean "the fax is real"? As the site you linked to says, they didn't even spell Epsilon right, as well as other obvious mistakes. And when you call the number, you get nothing... I'll try to fax it, just for sh*ts&giggles....

 

Edit: fax failed, not a valid fax number...

Edited February 2, 2014 by CanOdope

[Crimie]

 

 

When I say the fax is real, I mean that at one point when you would fax this number you would actually get an automated response which is linked in the epsilon fansite above.

Please excuse their English as they are French and have went to the effort of translating all of their work for English speaking people to research,

-Edit- Ok I myself have misunderstood from their english what they were saying about the fax, it turns out to be related to the jblend mystery, but thats another story...

https://sites.google.com/site/programmeepsilonproject/jblend-mystery

Edited February 2, 2014 by One Poor Fool

[tresshold]

I have a theory about the 'give thanks' written in red.

 

if trevor delivers a victim to the altruist camp, maybe he has to give thanks by giving his own live in that cave.

 

or could be: instead of deliver someone take them where they need to go and give thanks after by killing yourself at the cave.

 

maybe this is some sort of karma theory.

maybe we don't need to clear the altruist either because they are hiding something.

I'm doing this now because I haven't taken anyone to the altruist, I have killed myself 3 times now (at the cave) to see if something happens .

then I'll try doing this after delivering victims and kill myself after in the cave.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

Ignore and report the obvious troll please guys.

[MrEZmoneymaker]

 

Sorry if this has been brought up before but can anyone see the epsilon symbol in this newspaper clipping? They do talk about dinosaurs now and again lol it came out clearer in this camera filter ,its the white E in the middle of the picture im talking about

 

 

Thats because its the top of the epsilon building.

[shoky]

 

 

 

Sorry if this has been brought up before but can anyone see the epsilon symbol in this newspaper clipping? They do talk about dinosaurs now and again lol it came out clearer in this camera filter ,its the white E in the middle of the picture im talking about

 

 

Thats because its the top of the epsilon building.

LmfaO im bust hahahahahaha

[Crimie]

Ok cheers EZ I couldnt make out the background of the pic just the "E" symbol,my sight must be going!

[shoky]

Ok cheers EZ I couldnt make out the background of the pic just the "E" symbol,my sight must be going!

rockstar is doing this to us why is it soooo difficult to find this jetpack

[cocogen2003]

hmm...dunno what to make of the Egg clocks in Paleto that have the hour hand stuck at 12....trying to tie in that other clocks that aren't texture's(don't appear to be, looking at other functioning clocks) are stuck on times in the 3 and 9 o'clock hours...havent been searching much, been reading into the 9th tract as i believe the Epsilon program plays a big role in the "Mystery". I say that in quotations because i'm trying to make sense of the whole 9th paradigm tract, which coheres with the belief that we already found what we are looking for, but refuse to believe, and accept it. lol, probably getting too deep into it but there has to be SOMETHING there, with mention of dinosaurs(the diner with the footprints visible with SD) and bumper stickers(yet to be discovered) and peach and apple trees. I'd like to read anyone elses thoughts that have seriously looked into this same thing....sorry for the paragraph of text if it does not concern your thoughts and general ideas on the topic.

[tadd]

Yeh @the non tweeters...

 

I have no intention of hacking anyone... if you read my tweets you would see i say please and thank you, i add a little humor where possible and i politely ask for any hints or if things where used in the final game...

 

I have had a reply (he didnt seem to recognise the alien egg) im just hoping for any little hints or as one poor fools said, a nod as to whether we have found it all or not... its not harming you so why the bad feeling? I find this twitter talk more useful than half the things posted here and having a very good possibility of getting results if we get a big enough following...

 

Who is plzplzplz? Im not sure he was even talking about hacking was he? And if he was i have no interest in hacking them (not even sure they would have PMs about the mystery) but anyway this is not the aim...

 

 

and yeh im taking the "easy way" ... im not asking for a solution you know i ask them for a hint... they either made this WAY too easy or they made it ridiculously hard... i am fine with it being near impossible to crack, thats great for me i will put my all into cracking it... but if there is nothing more in the game and this is it, i would like my life back lol i would like to form my final opinion of the game and have some closure... im not harming you or the topic and not asking everyone to post here about it, i just keep people updated if something happens or we need some new tweeters.

 

Thank you to all the people who have joined or logged on to retweet... we need as many as possible @taddenmoore

Edited February 2, 2014 by tadd

[litlirishone]

Speaking of clocks and time, I can't help but to think that at the Maze Bank patio, where I took this pic ( http://rsg.ms/1fAicaY ),is depicting some kind of polar clock. Google polar clock and you'll see the uncanny resemblance... The Maze Bank area has been theorized previously to be the "cracked egg" part of the mural. Could this "polar clock" be eluding to a certain time when the "egg is going to hatch"? Just brainstorming here guys lol

[Eram]

(...)

Who is plzplzplz?

(...)

I think it's kurrupt's new alias.

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

Yes and like i said - ignore and report the obvious troll. He has more than 1 profile in here. Thinks no one knows but some of us are paying attention.

 

@tadd. As long as you keep things legit and friendly regarding the twitter thing then you can do as you please. However it would be preferred that you keep it to PM and out of the thread please. I remember reading a post you made in the file hunt thread recently "slamming your iron fist on the table" regarding people clogging your thread. Please show us the same courtesy by not clogging this thread. We are trying to get things back to a natural flow with on topic posts.

Edited February 2, 2014 by TrevorsStinkyFingers

[CanOdope]

Speaking of clocks and time, I can't help but to think that at the Maze Bank patio, where I took this pic ( http://rsg.ms/1fAicaY ),is depicting some kind of polar clock. Google polar clock and you'll see the uncanny resemblance... The Maze Bank area has been theorized previously to be the "cracked egg" part of the mural. Could this "polar clock" be eluding to a certain time when the "egg is going to hatch"? Just brainstorming here guys lol

Interesting... That definitely does resemble a polar clock. I used to use one on my phone, but couldn't keep track of time with it. LOL

[DFur4M]

I dont understand why it is wrong to look at ridiculous theories. As tadd just said, it was way easy or it is really hard. The game´s been out for months, and nothing has been found for a long time, so IF there is something to be found, you will have to look too much into things.

 

Those way out there theories, that appear to have nothing to do with the mural, it might have something to do with the mural.. i mean, at this point, what do you expect to find? a graffiti of a jetpack under a bridge? If we would stick to things that are obviously related to the mural, we would have not much going on on this thread.

[TirkaneX]

If I admit I 'm an alien, I take control only when i switch caracters(bam bam bam). After the 3 bam I'm on me.

what handling should be done to keep control?

 

Edit :

 

Franklin:

 

-Location

-Day

-Hour slot

-Moon

-weather

 

Same for mickael and Trevor. One Character for one Gift.

 

GIFT1:

GIFT2:

GIFT3:

 

Just a guess.

Edited February 2, 2014 by TirkaneX

[TrevorsStinkyFingers]

Sorry for the bad MS Paint job. It's unfinnished as of yet but will be updating more.

 

How i feel the Hippy camp fits into the map

 

Let me know what you guys think. I have more but still workng on it all.

[Scoobysrt]

@tadd, there appears to have been a few twitter based, hacking based, spamming based posts removed after i went to bed but before you came back to thread.

I was fully justified in making my post based on those posts alone if nothing else.

Plzplzplz first post addressed you directly fyi

 

 

For others, if you know people are posting under multiple accounts then out them, it doesnt help the thread in fact it derails the thread if someone is making a conversation up between two fake accounts.